QueenZone discussion #1379937
liar!
| cdrom 05.04.2014 19:25 |
brian may is a liar! he has no intention what so ever to finish any queen projects! He's too busy touring with kerry ellis and adam lambert. If he really cared about freddie, queen, and the fans; he would get to work on the anthology project or the new queen album. Same goes for Roger taylor. Bunch of greedy liars. |
| matt z 05.04.2014 19:31 |
They enjoy performing. In the music world sense. They may be trying to STACK the DECK in order to assure sales on the next product |
| cdrom 05.04.2014 19:39 |
I understand they enjoy playing, but we've been waiting ten years for this queen anthology package to come out. what a joke. I hate queen now! |
| Hangman_96 05.04.2014 20:15 |
If you hate Queen, why come on this board and complain about it on here? |
| cdrom 05.04.2014 20:21 |
because queenzone is the only place i can go to vent. |
| Hangman_96 05.04.2014 20:32 |
Well, somehow I understand you. It really drives me mad at times because they don't release anything worthwhile anymore. Only leaves without figs and nothing more. But let's hope we see the release of Rainbow later this year. |
| Iron Butterfly 05.04.2014 21:34 |
After Q+AL tour is over, I can only hope Brian and Roger will focus on the Queen music. |
| cdrom 05.04.2014 21:38 |
yes, a rainbow release would be great! i only have a poor quality vhs version. |
| jondickens1 05.04.2014 23:12 |
I'm in total agreeance. Being a queen fan is incredibly frustrating. Brian in particular teases us with releases 'in the pipeline' and the news of a new album. We all get excited and then nothing ever materializes. Rainbow,Hammersmith,the lost opportunity with the extra tracks on the remastered albums in 2011. All we get is badgers and Kerry Ellis. Hardcore fans (not glambert fans) have had enough!! |
| FreddieCat 06.04.2014 00:03 |
They have mentioned putting together an album with whats-his-face after the tour. |
| rocknrolllover 06.04.2014 01:32 |
cdrom wrote: brian may is a liar! he has no intention what so ever to finish any queen projects! He's too busy touring with kerry ellis and adam lambert. If he really cared about freddie, queen, and the fans; he would get to work on the anthology project or the new queen album. Same goes for Roger taylor. Bunch of greedy liars.Brian isn't a liar! How dare you say that? And I'm not too thrilled with his concert activity with Lambert and Ellis, but this case i don't call him a liar. |
| rocknrolllover 06.04.2014 01:32 |
FreddieCat wrote: They have mentioned putting together an album with whats-his-face after the tour.None album with Lambert. |
| Makka 06.04.2014 02:33 |
FFS, the guys can do what they want can't they? Why not continue playing with Ellis or whoever whilst they can? |
| cmsdrums 06.04.2014 03:50 |
cdrom wrote: I understand they enjoy playing, but we've been waiting ten years for this queen anthology package to come out. what a joke. I hate queen now!I think you'll find it's nearer 20 years!! To those that say Brian isn't a liar; Many years ago: "My Albert Hall solo gig is coming out on video/DVD" - lie Several years ago: "Hammersmith DVD is coming out this year" - lie A couple of years ago: "Rainbow DVD is coming out this year year" - lie Last year: "New Queen album with FM & MJ tracks will be out before Xmas" - lie Yes, he may have been fully intending for these to be the case and so he wasn't intentionally misleading us, but with his/their track record he should really stop trying to be so specific and get people's hopes up. I would imagine that the new record company are quite happy to have a regular stream of new Queen releases (especially new material) to get back some of their outlay, and out of most bands I would say that Queen are one of the few that if they want to release something they can - it's really down to them and no one else. I to agree that they don't 'owe' us anything and they don't have to release anything, but in that case then don't tell us you're going to!! |
| rocknrolllover 06.04.2014 04:07 |
cmsdrums wrote:I think that they decided to release Hammersmith'75 in 2015, when it will be 40 years since the release of the album "a night at the Opera" and 40 years since they played a concert at the Hammersmith Odeon 24.12.1975.cdrom wrote: I understand they enjoy playing, but we've been waiting ten years for this queen anthology package to come out. what a joke. I hate queen now!I think you'll find it's nearer 20 years!! To those that say Brian isn't a liar; Many years ago: "My Albert Hall solo gig is coming out on video/DVD" - lie Several years ago: "Hammersmith DVD is coming out this year" - lie A couple of years ago: "Rainbow DVD is coming out this year year" - lie Last year: "New Queen album with FM & MJ tracks will be out before Xmas" - lie Yes, he may have been fully intending for these to be the case and so he wasn't intentionally misleading us, but with his/their track record he should really stop trying to be so specific and get people's hopes up. I would imagine that the new record company are quite happy to have a regular stream of new Queen releases (especially new material) to get back some of their outlay, and out of most bands I would say that Queen are one of the few that if they want to release something they can - it's really down to them and no one else. I to agree that they don't 'owe' us anything and they don't have to release anything, but in that case then don't tell us you're going to!! Honestly I haven't heard that Brian was planned to release a solo concert at the Albert Hall on video. What about Rainbow: I've heard that this gig will be released this year. |
| philip storey 06.04.2014 05:42 |
I will be 51 this November will i see those releases in my lifetime ? I hope so but in the meantime i enjoy fantastic box sets from Deep Purple, enjoy great concerts by Muse.I no longer let it frustrate me ,there are many other things in the Music world to enjoy.Of course if and when they come along i will part with my cash and enjoy them . |
| scottmax 06.04.2014 06:14 |
Before Tom Chaplin performed Its A Hard Life 'This song has never been performed live......' Lie! Maybe a thread should be started entitled Brian's Bullshit? And another..... 'John sends us his blessing' Of course he does ! |
| Elektra 06.04.2014 07:23 |
philip storey wrote: I will be 51 this November will i see those releases in my lifetime ? I hope so but in the meantime i enjoy fantastic box sets from Deep Purple, enjoy great concerts by Muse.I no longer let it frustrate me ,there are many other things in the Music world to enjoy.Of course if and when they come along i will part with my cash and enjoy them .well said !! Brian has so many things happening in his life at the same time its chaos he does mean well but he is a workaholic! |
| FreddieCat 06.04.2014 10:13 |
Brian"s works with Kerry, including concerts and albums, is very separate of Queen. Although the duet covers Queen songs, they market their work as their own duet. As with other artists, principally Paul Rodgers and Adam Lambert, Brian and Roger refer to themselves as Queen when collaborating with them. This IMHO is the slippery shadowy element of the current Queen work. If an album is made with Adam Lambert, will Freddie's 3 MJJ tracks go on the album, plus any other Freddie work stashed in a drawer somewhere? Very possibly so. This has been discussed well on QOL, so my humble apologies for bringing it up here, but this seems to be the moment. My only take on it is Brian and Kerry, though a distraction from Queen work, do not affect Queen marketing and products in any way, and profits from the Candlelight Acoustics concerts and albums go largely to charitible orgs, mainly lions and badgers, but also probably cancer organizations. So the issue at hand, IMO. is where will Q+ put its energy and materials. Current ideas seemingly are not pretty, but I would humbly ask to separate Kerry's partnering with Brian on Candlelight concerts from these zany Q+ projects. Meanwhile, I will continue to place Candlelight concerts in the Personal QZ subforum to emphasize the separate nature of their work from Queen. |
| EDWOOD 06.04.2014 10:23 |
Remember the press release recently where Queen renewed their contract with Universal Records? From the press release: 'Switzerland, December 2, 2013 -- Queen and Universal Music Group have renewed their partnership with a new, long term deal that will herald a range of exciting projects from the band including a raft of rare and unreleased material and a film. ' 'Max Hole, Chairman and Chief Executive of Universal Music Group International said: “We have loved working with Queen over last three years. Queen remains one of the biggest, boldest and most influential bands in the world. The band and Universal Music have lots of ambitious plans for the future”. ' So you would think that not only have the fans been promised things from QP over the years but now Queen have signed another contract with Universal that has signified their future intent. I can imagine Universal would have an idea what fans have been asking for through market research and understand how much the demand will be for certain Queen related products. They must know that unreleased material WILL sell well as the contract does cover a lot of territories where Queen is still popular. The MJ tracks in particular must have been a good bargaining chip for QP to get the best deal. Universal WILL expect this material to be released eventually otherwise their relationship could be fractured. When this will be is anyones guess as QP's rush towards releasing their product (for 1970-1997) is glacial at best. |
| rocknrolllover 06.04.2014 10:29 |
FreddieCat wrote: Brian"s works with Kerry, including concerts and albums, is very separate of Queen. Although the duet covers Queen songs, they market their work as their own duet. As with other artists, principally Paul Rodgers and Adam Lambert, Brian and Roger refer to themselves as Queen when collaborating with them. This IMHO is the slippery shadowy element of the current Queen work. If an album is made with Adam Lambert, will Freddie's 3 MJJ tracks go on the album, plus any other Freddie work stashed in a drawer somewhere? Very possibly so. This has been discussed well on QOL, so my humble apologies for bringing it up here, but this seems to be the moment. My only take on it is Brian and Kerry, though a distraction from Queen work, do not affect Queen marketing and products in any way, and profits from the Candlelight Acoustics concerts and albums go largely to charitible orgs, mainly lions and badgers, but also probably cancer organizations. So the issue at hand, IMO. is where will Q+ put its energy and materials. Current ideas seemingly are not pretty, but I would humbly ask to separate Kerry's partnering with Brian on Candlelight concerts from these zany Q+ projects. Meanwhile, I will continue to place Candlelight concerts in the Personal QZ subforum to emphasize the separate nature of their work from Queen.Album without Lambert. |
| rocknrolllover 06.04.2014 10:31 |
EDWOOD wrote: Remember the press release recently where Queen renewed their contract with Universal Records? From the press release: 'Switzerland, December 2, 2013 -- Queen and Universal Music Group have renewed their partnership with a new, long term deal that will herald a range of exciting projects from the band including a raft of rare and unreleased material and a film. ' 'Max Hole, Chairman and Chief Executive of Universal Music Group International said: “We have loved working with Queen over last three years. Queen remains one of the biggest, boldest and most influential bands in the world. The band and Universal Music have lots of ambitious plans for the future”. ' So you would think that not only have the fans been promised things from QP over the years but now Queen have signed another contract with Universal that has signified their future intent. I can imagine Universal would have an idea what fans have been asking for through market research and understand how much the demand will be for certain Queen related products. They must know that unreleased material WILL sell well as the contract does cover a lot of territories where Queen is still popular. The MJ tracks in particular must have been a good bargaining chip for QP to get the best deal. Universal WILL expect this material to be released eventually otherwise their relationship could be fractured. When this will be is anyones guess as QP's rush towards releasing their product (for 1970-1997) is glacial at best.I'm agree with you |
| mooghead 06.04.2014 11:55 |
Not a liar, just a carrot dangler. Arguably worse.... |
| FreddieCat 06.04.2014 12:48 |
Hopefully work will not be hastily thrown together. After returning from the tour in late summer, the temptation to toss everything sloppily in a soup in order to satisfy promises is a bit worrisome. It would be disappointed at best to see Brian and Kerry's CA tracks included in an album combining full classical Queen, QAL, and FM/MJJ material. A sickening thought for sure. B&K's Candlelight Acoustics for me is Dr. May's compassion signature, and some of his most elegant and beautiful work. It deserves its own place away from other projects. AL fans may feel the same about QAL work. Separate project albums are needed with careful fastidious thought for organizational quality and artistic value, IMO. ~Time waits for nobody... |
| rocknrolllover 06.04.2014 13:17 |
FreddieCat wrote: Hopefully work will not be hastily thrown together. After returning from the tour in late summer, the temptation to toss everything sloppily in a soup in order to satisfy promises is a bit worrisome. It would be disappointed at best to see Brian and Kerry's CA tracks included in an album combining full classical Queen, QAL, and FM/MJJ material. A sickening thought for sure. B&K's Candlelight Acoustics for me is Dr. May's compassion signature, and some of his mosqt elegant and beautiful work. It deserves its own place away from other projects. AL fans may feel the same about QAL work. Separate project albums are needed with careful fastidious thought for organizational quality and artistic value, IMO. ~Time waits for nobody...No Kerry, no lambert. Only Queen. |
| scottmax 06.04.2014 15:46 |
rocknrolllover wrote:I think people actually need to get real? Brian never rushes anything. As the 'new album' has proved. It took five years to do the Kerry Ellis album? His astronomy and photography probably takes preference over his music. Chances are it'll be released in time for Xmas to cash in on that market, if not then Xmas next year!FreddieCat wrote: Hopefully work will not be hastily thrown together. After returning from the tour in late summer, the temptation to toss everything sloppily in a soup in order to satisfy promises is a bit worrisome. It would be disappointed at best to see Brian and Kerry's CA tracks included in an album combining full classical Queen, QAL, and FM/MJJ material. A sickening thought for sure. B&K's Candlelight Acoustics for me is Dr. May's compassion signature, and some of his mosqt elegant and beautiful work. It deserves its own place away from other projects. AL fans may feel the same about QAL work. Separate project albums are needed with careful fastidious thought for organizational quality and artistic value, IMO. ~Time waits for nobody...No Kerry, no lambert. Only Queen. |
| YAFF 06.04.2014 15:54 |
Being a fan of Queen = More disappointments than triumphs. It's gotten to the point I only consider myself a fan of Freddie and John. If Brian & Roger don't come through with this alleged MIH 2 like deal (with Freddie) then they are wankers and I know I'll move on away from their nadir |
| the dude 1366 06.04.2014 18:48 |
No way to original post! That stuff can be released when they are too old to tour. Playing live for us is way better than sitting at home and making sure they release obscure bsides. Cmon |
| luthorn 06.04.2014 21:19 |
yeah, that's why I gave up on Queen. I only came here sporadically to check what is new, but I only see the same old things since I joined in 2004: hopes and dreams. |
| matt z 07.04.2014 03:33 |
cdrom wrote: I understand they enjoy playing, but we've been waiting ten years for this queen anthology package to come out. what a joke. I hate queen now!I feel your frustration. I too remember millennial announcements about a package in 2004 . Fortunately for me life has been far too interesting/problematic/unusual these past couple of years to give much of a crap about it. I don't understand why (what's left of) the band don't take it on themselves either. There has yet to be an accurate video account of this EXEMPLARY band from the 1970's. That's embarrassing. It's HOW they accomplished so much. From the talented niche they were |
| Wijnand 07.04.2014 03:34 |
I wouldn't call Brian a liar... If he states that something will be released before a centain date, I believe that (at that point) it was the intention to do so... Lot''s of other things come and came along... To quote John Lennon: "Life is what happens to you, while you're busy making other plans..." And yeah... from our (fans) point of view, it is maybe disappointing that some (lots) things are postponed, delayed, or won't happen at all... But i.m.o. there we're some nice releases the last year: Roger - The Lot Roger - Fun on Earth Brian - Montreux dvd +cd Queen - The studio experience Queen - mini LP reclica's re-release Queen - Live in Rio (finally officially released) And: Brian - tour with Kerry Ellis Roger - Re-union concert The Cross Queen Extravaganza Tour Q+AL tour So why ALWAYS complaining? Please enjoy what we get and got, instead of moaning about what not... |
| Dunno223 07.04.2014 04:46 |
I see some hate for the May / Ellis collaboration here and I'm not quite sure why. Their projects together are nothing to do with Queen, bar occasional covers during concerts. So, what exactly are you people saying - that because Freddie Mercury died Brian must never work with anyone else or do anything musically again? That's what is sounds like you're saying. I'm not mad for the Queen + AL collaboration, but the same thing kind of applies to this too. Freddie Mercury passed away twenty-two years ago, and this was tragic and a huge loss to world. But because of this many people believe that Brian and Roger should quit what they've been doing for the previous twenty years and stop playing songs which they wrote for a band which they started. Is that fair? Not really. I would much rather see B & R perform with an established musician rather than a product of the reality TV world. But, in this day, that's the nearest to Queen you're going to get. Brian and Roger won't be around forever, so embrace the fact that part of Queen is still alive in your lifetime, because there will be new fans in thirty years time who won't be old enough to see any member of Queen live. And these future fans will be only too pleased if someone offered them a chance to go back and see just two members of the group play. |
| matt z 07.04.2014 04:48 |
Yeah I hear ya. Only gruff is that this alleged boxed set has been delayed probably longer than CHINESE DEMOCRACY. (Yes, that p.o.s.) it seems like there won't be studio backing behind such a release and that it's unlikely to occur at this point. I am however VERY grateful that they will Tour this year. I'm looking forward to it like a blessing at this point. |
| pittrek 07.04.2014 05:26 |
Brian May is doing what Brian May wants to do. Live with it or find something else to listen to. |
| FreddieCat 07.04.2014 10:24 |
matt z wrote: Yeah I hear ya. Only gruff is that this alleged boxed set has been delayed probably longer than CHINESE DEMOCRACY. (Yes, that p.o.s.) it seems like there won't be studio backing behind such a release and that it's unlikely to occur at this point. I am however VERY grateful that they will Tour this year. I'm looking forward to it like a blessing at this point.The tour will be very exciting. I wish good health and well being to each of them during and after the tour. They are three wonderfully remarkable men with very special gifts. |
| master marathon runner 07.04.2014 13:47 |
Brian May owes you precisely nothing. Nuff said. |
| brENsKi 07.04.2014 14:02 |
cdrom wrote: brian may is a liar! he has no intention what so ever to finish any queen projects! He's too busy touring with kerry ellis and adam lambert. If he really cared about freddie, queen, and the fans; he would get to work on the anthology project or the new queen album. Same goes for Roger taylor. Bunch of greedy liars.Seriously? Would you criticise your local supermarket for not selling new products? Would you honestly prefer it if Sainsbury's sold 30 year old product, or if you were sold sub-standard goods - like Tesco and horsemeat? no wait, bad analogy, forget i said anything :-) |
| The Real Wizard 08.04.2014 23:15 |
cdrom wrote: brian may is a liar! he has no intention what so ever to finish any queen projects! He's too busy touring with kerry ellis and adam lambert. If he really cared about freddie, queen, and the fans; he would get to work on the anthology project or the new queen album. Same goes for Roger taylor. Bunch of greedy liars.You'll be eating your words by Christmas. |
| rocknrolllover 09.04.2014 00:37 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Why on a Christmas? What will be on Christmas?cdrom wrote: brian may is a liar! he has no intention what so ever to finish any queen projects! He's too busy touring with kerry ellis and adam lambert. If he really cared about freddie, queen, and the fans; he would get to work on the anthology project or the new queen album. Same goes for Roger taylor. Bunch of greedy liars.You'll be eating your words by Christmas. |
| The Real Wizard 09.04.2014 12:12 |
pittrek wrote: Brian May is doing what Brian May wants to do. Live with it or find something else to listen to.^ this. master marathon runner wrote: Brian May owes you precisely nothing. Nuff said.^ and this. Good to see rationality lingering in this thread. |
| The Real Wizard 09.04.2014 12:13 |
rocknrolllover wrote:By Christmas =/= on Christmas.The Real Wizard wrote:Why on a Christmas? What will be on Christmas?cdrom wrote: brian may is a liar! he has no intention what so ever to finish any queen projects! He's too busy touring with kerry ellis and adam lambert. If he really cared about freddie, queen, and the fans; he would get to work on the anthology project or the new queen album. Same goes for Roger taylor. Bunch of greedy liars.You'll be eating your words by Christmas. |
| rocknrolllover 09.04.2014 12:31 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Lolrocknrolllover wrote:By Christmas =/= on Christmas.The Real Wizard wrote:Why on a Christmas? What will be on Christmas?cdrom wrote: brian may is a liar! he has no intention what so ever to finish any queen projects! He's too busy touring with kerry ellis and adam lambert. If he really cared about freddie, queen, and the fans; he would get to work on the anthology project or the new queen album. Same goes for Roger taylor. Bunch of greedy liars.You'll be eating your words by Christmas. do you mean release new Queen album on Christmas, right |
| Hangman_96 09.04.2014 16:54 |
Rainbow. What else can it be, buddy boy? |
| tero! 48531 09.04.2014 22:27 |
Lostman wrote: Rainbow. What else can it be, buddy boy?It could also be the "Queen Karaoke Album - as sung by Adam Lambert"... The odds for a release this year are even for those two releases. ;) |
| rocknrolllover 09.04.2014 22:42 |
Lostman wrote: Rainbow. What else can it be, buddy boy?In light of the fact that Universal Music Group acquires Eagle Rock entertainment, I feel a vague doubt on account of this release. Although I hope that this acquisition will not affect future releases from the Queen. |
| rocknrolllover 10.04.2014 03:34 |
Brian never talked bad about Freddie. I honestly thought that the author of the topic will be write that Brian is not only a liar but also a hypocrite. Hypocrite concerning that he was talking about Freddie. |
| cdrom 10.04.2014 23:19 |
cool beans, a new release for christmas! i'll buy 3 copies! nope, make that 4 copies. might as well get five i guess. hey everybody, whats your favorite queen song?! |
| Hangman_96 11.04.2014 03:53 |
cdrom wrote: cool beans, a new release for christmas! i'll buy 3 copies! nope, make that 4 copies. might as well get five i guess. hey everybody, whats your favorite queen song?!If it's never released, you will get no single copy, neither will anyone of us. You tease. |