| FlorianS 01.04.2014 01:31 |
I am currently reading the Freddie Mercury Book by Peter Freestone. In the section about the Hot Space tour he quotes that 'many' concerts from this tour have been filmed. One example he mentioned apart from the known Milton Keynes and Tokio is Hallenstadion Zurich (I know that excerpts from this concert are a Bonus on one of the DVDs). Does anybody know more about this? |
| The Real Wizard 01.04.2014 02:12 |
It's actually Vienna footage on disc 2. Bits of the Zurich soundcheck were shown on TV. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess.. |
| matt z 01.04.2014 07:34 |
Eck... I could do without hearing that busy mess of a song Staying Power again. But. .. hey that's good news. It's a shame things probably will never be released |
| musicland munich 01.04.2014 11:18 |
The one thing is that they filmed a lot of shows. The other thing is - What is still there ? Back in the days it wasn't unusual to use the film tapes several times. So after a show they had a look on what's filmed - maybe didn't liked it for somewhat reason - and used that Tape the next night. |
| The Real Wizard 01.04.2014 11:23 |
Actually, in the 70s in the early 80s it was not commonplace to film for the sake of filming. It was expensive, and Queen almost always lost money on tour to begin with ! So unless it was the odd bit of TV footage being filmed, I think we can be sure that Milton Keynes was the only show that was properly recorded. |
| musicland munich 01.04.2014 11:39 |
^true - Somewhere there is a Queen related statement about the costs of the film tapes/Crew etc. I forgot about the source ( maybe the Doro Guys - even they like to talk much simply because a day got 24 h ?). |
| Raffy 01.04.2014 12:20 |
Houston '80 & Houston '82 were probably recorded professionally by the venue video crew (like the 1977 concert) but no one has confirmed this assumption unfortunately :( They fall into the ranks of those shows we didn't know if they were fully recorded on video/film or not like Brussels '84, Cologne-Mannheim-Knebworth '86... Partially pro-recorded concerts: London 3-31-74 Tokyo 5-1-75 London 12-24-75 Berlin 4-28-78 Munich 5-3-78 Brussels 1-26-79 Rotterdam 1-29-79 Zagreb 2-6-79 Munich 2-10-79 Munich 2-11-79 Madrid 2-23-79 Poitiers 2-25-79 Paris 2-27-79 Tokyo 4-24-79 Paris 11-25-80 (silent one camera footage) Frankfurt 4-28-82 Vienna 5-12-82 New Haven 8-10-82 Tokorozawa 11-3-82 Brussels 8-24-84 Milan 9-14-84 Sydney 4-25-85 Tokyo 5-8-85 Tokyo 5-11-85 Leiden 6-12-86 Paris 6-14-86 Mannheim 6-21-86 Slane 7-5-86 Newcastle 7-9-86 Budapest 7-27-86 Barcelona 8-1-86 Stevenage 8-9-86 Fully recorded: London 11-19-74 London 11-20-74 London 9-18-76 London 6-6-77 London 6-7-77 Houston 12-11-77 Paris 2-28-79 Paris 3-1-79 Tokyo 4-25-79 London 12-26-79 Buenos Aires 3-1-81 Rosario 3-6-81 (?) Buenos Aires 3-8-81 São Paulo 3-20-81 Caracas 9-27-81 Montreal 11-24-81 Montreal 11-25-81 Milton Keynes 6-5-82 Rio de Janeiro 1-12-85 Rio de Janeiro 1-19-85 London 7-13-85 London 7-11-86 London 7-12-86 Backstage, rehearsals: New York 2-5-76 Fort Worth 12-10-77 Bristol 12-9-79 Zürich 4-16-82 Inglewood 9-15-82 Infos taken here: http://queenlive.ca/ (thanks for this wonderful website) |
| malicedoom 01.04.2014 12:51 |
matt z wrote: Eck... I could do without hearing that busy mess of a song Staying Power again.How DARE you... :) |
| The Real Wizard 01.04.2014 15:49 |
Raffy wrote: Backstage, rehearsals: New York 2-5-76 Fort Worth 12-10-77 Bristol 12-9-79 Zürich 4-16-82 Inglewood 9-15-82Add Sydney 4-25-85 to that list :) The 1977 soundcheck footage we've seen is most likely from Houston. Has anyone compared the video to images of the interior of the Summit? |
| The Real Wizard 01.04.2014 15:53 |
Raffy wrote: Partially pro-recorded concerts: Tokorozawa 11-3-82 Tokyo 5-11-85 Budapest 7-27-86These were definitely filmed in full. Fully recorded: Rosario 3-6-81 (?) Buenos Aires 3-8-81All I've heard about Rosario is that there might be an 8mm film. Who knows if it's true.. As for 3-8-81, it's just a minute of footage for TV. Definitely not the full show. |
| beemack74 01.04.2014 17:04 |
Would be great if these were released! Wishful thinking I suspect though :( I'm particularly interested in buying concert DVD's of the"Live Killers" era, also South America 1981.What is available and what do you all think are the best quality/ most complete (set-wise)?? |
| Raffy 01.04.2014 17:06 |
Thanks for the useful corrections and suggestions "The Real Wizard" ;) |
| The Real Wizard 02.04.2014 01:36 |
beemack74 wrote: Would be great if these were released! Wishful thinking I suspect though :( I'm particularly interested in buying concert DVD's of the"Live Killers" era, also South America 1981.What is available and what do you all think are the best quality/ most complete (set-wise)??Don't buy them, as they're not official releases. It's all available for free download here. Munich 2-11-79 London 12-26-79 Buenos Aires 3-1-81 All fantastic stuff in pretty good quality. Munich is the best quality of the bunch (but also the shortest - just six songs). |
| beemack74 02.04.2014 08:30 |
Thanks Real Wizard, that's brill. Looking forward to seeing em. Cheers buddy! |
| Mike G 02.04.2014 12:39 |
what Hot Space Lacked as an album, it made up for on tour...One of the best tours they did...By the way, Staying power rules on live at the Bowl..That's the way it should have been recorded on the album...with improved lryics, it could have been the next big hit/anthem.... |
| malicedoom 02.04.2014 15:37 |
Freddie really did sound amazing on that tour. I had heard that from a friend of mine who saw him live during that time (he said he always sounded great but, for some reason, REALLY great during the Hot Space tour) and the release of the DVD only proved that. |
| Heavenite 02.04.2014 15:51 |
I can see why that might be true. Freddie was in his late 30's by the Hot Space tour, so was at the peak of his powers. Voices also get deeper as people get older and lose a bit of range, and I don't notice any of that with Freddie until about 1985. Not sure when Freddie started smoking either. But that tends to change the timbre of the voice after a while too. For some it adds quality and character. But I don't think that would have been the case with such a brilliant instrument as Freddie's. |
| Lord Gaga 02.04.2014 17:32 |
Freddie started smoking in 1979/1980, mainly because he needed something to do with his hands when he talked, but also (I believe) because he wanted to add that huskiness to his voice. |
| matt z 02.04.2014 22:08 |
...I must be the only one who hates Staying Power live. It's really a mess of a song. It's bearable on the album mix. The only thing that comes through is the "power! Power! Power! Etc" break. Had they done a different arrangement I could see it being better. Say for instance; getting the tower of power brass section to do the part that is replicated on synth bass. If you do THAT ... THEN you've got ta "a spicy pizza!" I CAN however feel a turning rhythm to the song that might have given influence to Michael and his posturing but the song itself is a mess. Like Spinal Taps free form jazz odyssey (and puppet show) I DO like the bootlegs though. Hopefully the Inglewood or New York shows get a release |
| luthorn 03.04.2014 08:50 |
It is great to hear, but unfortunately I am tired of waiting for anything other than the same old stuff repackaged. I will cherish what I have in the bootleg collection, in the meantime I am off to Muse. Least Queen could do is release whatever video they have in the quality it is. Fans will watch it. |
| Mike G 03.04.2014 09:00 |
I keep hearing about this band Muse, I have one album from them , and it's pretty good, but not the great band people claim..I Have "Revelations" I was watching The Wembly show a few nights ago for the first time in a few years, and never realized how husky Freddie's voice was in that show..He never could have sang Somedody to love and Play the game that night...He still had plenty of great moments though in a more operatic style... |
| Vocal harmony 03.04.2014 09:23 |
Mike G wrote: I keep hearing about this band Muse, I have one album from them , and it's pretty good, but not the great band people claim..I Have "Revelations" I was watching The Wembly show a few nights ago for the first time in a few years, and never realized how husky Freddie's voice was in that show..He never could have sang Somedody to love and Play the game that night...He still had plenty of great moments though in a more operatic style...If you had only heard Hot Space or The Game and nothing else you're view of Queen would be very limited and somewhat different to someone who has heard more of there music. Muse are not a band you can decide upon on hearing one album or without seeing them live. They are a stunning band, who in many ways have taken the type of things Queen were doing on Queen 2 and taken it to a different level. As for Freddie not being able to sing SBTL or PTG had they been part of the 86 set list. You really need to listen again to what he was doing with that voice in those shows, husky or not. |
| Mike G 03.04.2014 09:51 |
Vocal harmony wrote:I'll check out more of their music, Like I said, I do like them, and I heard other songs from different albums as well....They just seem like a good band, nothing more IMO...not on the level of Queen and other classic rockers...As far as The Magic tour, I heard shows throughout the tour, and maybe you're right, he could have done those songs, though maybe a bit rougher than the The Game/ Hot space Tours....I never said I didn't like his wembly voice...The Magic tour was a good one for Freddie, Not his best, but still good. My favorite live Freddie is 80 to 82, then 74 (rainbow era) then 86 magic tour....Mike G wrote: I keep hearing about this band Muse, I have one album from them , and it's pretty good, but not the great band people claim..I Have "Revelations" I was watching The Wembly show a few nights ago for the first time in a few years, and never realized how husky Freddie's voice was in that show..He never could have sang Somedody to love and Play the game that night...He still had plenty of great moments though in a more operatic style...If you had only heard Hot Space or The Game and nothing else you're view of Queen would be very limited and somewhat different to someone who has heard more of there music. Muse are not a band you can decide upon on hearing one album or without seeing them live. They are a stunning band, who in many ways have taken the type of things Queen were doing on Queen 2 and taken it to a different level. As for Freddie not being able to sing SBTL or PTG had they been part of the 86 set list. You really need to listen again to what he was doing with that voice in those shows, husky or not. |
| luthorn 03.04.2014 13:01 |
Mike G wrote: I keep hearing about this band Muse, I have one album from them , and it's pretty good, but not the great band people claim..I Have "Revelations" I was watching The Wembly show a few nights ago for the first time in a few years, and never realized how husky Freddie's voice was in that show..He never could have sang Somedody to love and Play the game that night...He still had plenty of great moments though in a more operatic style...Muse is kind of like Queen, better live than studio music. In my opinion, the best stadium band since Queen/Guns&Roses days. |
| Mike G 03.04.2014 15:23 |
What I alway's loved about Queen is the fact that their studio sound is so different from the live sound....Not many Bands could pull that off...So, The studio stuff is what got me into the band in the first place, but the live stuff I come to apprerciate over time and I like equally, or at times even more than the studio... |
| The Real Wizard 03.04.2014 22:27 |
Vocal harmony wrote:Agreed 100%. Muse are, by far, the most interesting rock band in the world right now. The way they have been incorporating various styles of music into what they do is no different from what Queen were doing when they were at their creative peak in the mid 70s.Mike G wrote: I keep hearing about this band Muse, I have one album from them , and it's pretty good, but not the great band people claim..I Have "Revelations" I was watching The Wembly show a few nights ago for the first time in a few years, and never realized how husky Freddie's voice was in that show..He never could have sang Somedody to love and Play the game that night...He still had plenty of great moments though in a more operatic style...If you had only heard Hot Space or The Game and nothing else you're view of Queen would be very limited and somewhat different to someone who has heard more of there music. Muse are not a band you can decide upon on hearing one album or without seeing them live. They are a stunning band, who in many ways have taken the type of things Queen were doing on Queen 2 and taken it to a different level. As for Freddie not being able to sing SBTL or PTG had they been part of the 86 set list. You really need to listen again to what he was doing with that voice in those shows, husky or not. Black Holes And Revelations is my favourite record of the last 15 years. |