QueenZone discussion #1374509
princes of the universe
| cdrom 11.02.2014 06:29 |
I would say that this is one of Freddie's greatest compositions. It reminds me of "Fairy fellers master stroke". I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight about the creation( musically) of this song? I know it was written for the Highlander film: but I'm curious about the amount of work that Freddie spent on this song. Did he compose it on piano? Was he playing guitar? Was Brian part of the writing process? Please discuss. |
| mooghead 11.02.2014 06:36 |
"It reminds me of "Fairy fellers master stroke"" Are you drunk? |
| cdrom 11.02.2014 06:43 |
You're an idiot. |
| TomP63 11.02.2014 07:05 |
When I'm drunk, everythink reminds me of The Fairy fellers master stroke........everywere I look I see fairies topped with a Fairy King....I think that I'm an a idiot too. So Moog looks like were both idiots........ I'm off, I'm gonna put another cd in my cdrom.... |
| brENsKi 11.02.2014 08:41 |
cdrom wrote: I would say that this is one of Freddie's greatest compositions. It reminds me of "Fairy fellers master stroke". .reminds you of TFFMS ??? how? apart from the fairy/prince link in "The Sleeping Beauty" "Cinderella" and "Snow White" - i think you're bonkers |
| Supersonic_Man89 11.02.2014 09:31 |
I think he means the theme of the song was more in tradition of Freddie's earlier compositions. Calm down, people. |
| Vocal harmony 11.02.2014 09:31 |
brENsKi wrote:It has the same four musicians playing on it!cdrom wrote: I would say that this is one of Freddie's greatest compositions. It reminds me of "Fairy fellers master stroke". .reminds you of TFFMS ??? how? |
| Stick 11.02.2014 10:42 |
Wow. A newbie claims a certain Queen song reminds him of another Queen song and instead of asking how the one reminds him of the other he immediately gets hatred spewed his way. I quite understand the hatred on this forum for the retards and trolls that run amok around here but don't unleash it upon a newbie. Trash the bastards that deserve it but please try to act normal to new posters who aren't familiar with the hatred that is Queenzone nowadays. |
| mooghead 11.02.2014 11:08 |
Its not hatred, its disbelief. It's like saying Body Language reminds you of Bohemian Rhapsody |
| flash00. 11.02.2014 11:56 |
All songs remind everyone of something different to others that was his personal opinion, i agree with Stick on this one there is far too much bitchy snide comments from a small few what is so shocking there grown men. Whatever makes you happy i suppose. |
| Stick 11.02.2014 12:36 |
mooghead wrote: Its not hatred, its disbelief. It's like saying Body Language reminds you of Bohemian RhapsodySo? Maybe there is a link between the 2 that you and I haven't thought of. And even if it is only disbelief, why then the negative response? Why not simply ask the new forum user why he thinks he sees a link between 2 songs? However if the newbie turns out to be another troll then please regard my comments as non-existent. Personally I like to give people the benefit of the doubt (at least a while). |
| mooghead 11.02.2014 15:24 |
Ok, looks like the ball is is in cdrom's court... why does that song remind you of that other song? 'Just because' isn't an answer..... |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 11.02.2014 17:35 |
mooghead wrote: ... 'Just because' isn't an answer.....Damn! :) |
| cdrom 11.02.2014 18:36 |
I have been coming to this site for 15 years and I've been listening to Queen for over 20 years. It might say I'm a "newbie", but that doesn't mean I know nothing about this band. I choose not to post or respond to anything on here because all you people are pathetic morons. I will never post on here again. thank you, and get a life people! |
| gooddrills 11.02.2014 21:26 |
Princes of the Universe - Kick ass song, one of my favourite Freddie compositions from the 80's. Just saying........ |
| FreddieCat 11.02.2014 21:46 |
It has the same four musicians playing on it! Indeed Queen were four muscians. Today's "+" member is not. |
| Wijnand 12.02.2014 02:51 |
mooghead wrote: "It reminds me of "Fairy fellers master stroke"" Are you drunk?I think this reply was quite funny... Don't think it was meant to be mean... Just disbelief... And that's no problem, is it? I love both songs by the way! |
| master marathon runner 12.02.2014 03:54 |
mooghead wrote: Its not hatred, its disbelief. It's like saying Body Language reminds you of Bohemian Rhapsody. . .Body language does remind me of Bohemian Rhapsody !! |
| Supersonic_Man89 12.02.2014 05:09 |
Cdrom, we're not all pricks. |
| mooghead 12.02.2014 07:06 |
cdrom wrote: I have been coming to this site for 15 years and I've been listening to Queen for over 20 years. It might say I'm a "newbie", but that doesn't mean I know nothing about this band. I choose not to post or respond to anything on here because all you people are pathetic morons. I will never post on here again. thank you, and get a life people!Awww don't be like that, tell us where the similarities are, thats all we ask :-) |
| Pingfah 12.02.2014 07:39 |
It's funny because The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke reminds me of Love Me Do by the Beatles. I think it is because they both have drums. CDRom, it's just a bit of ribbing, don't take it to heart! |
| malicedoom 12.02.2014 09:24 |
I love Princes of the Universe. I still can't believe it wasn't a big hit, especially with that incredible video. Go figure... |
| Thistle 12.02.2014 10:06 |
I actually thought that Moog's initial response was quite funny, and didn't see it as hatred. It was up to the OP to point out the similarities, and if he/she has been here for 15 years prior to posting, then they might've known that such a bold statement would open them up to a bit of humourous banter. I didn't see any malice in it at all. On the flipside, I was going to open this post up by saying "lay off guys, let the dude talk" - until I noted he/she then went on to call us ALL pathetic morons instead of taking the opportunity to explain what they meant. If that's how they feel, then with the utmost respect, they're most welcome to walk. |
| malicedoom 12.02.2014 11:30 |
I've learned to never (out loud) compare any of Queen's 80's material to Queen II for similar reasons. :) |
| mooghead 12.02.2014 13:52 |
"I've learned to never (out loud) compare any of Queen's 80's material to Queen II" please try ;-) |
| malicedoom 12.02.2014 15:00 |
Queen II is pretty much on its own island, to me anyway. It's never been my favorite but I appreciate the structure of it and how it's really an 'experience' to listen to it. Definitely an album I'd very rarely ever play just a single track from at one time (with the possible exception of SSOR, but that's by design - being the 'single' and all...) |
| Ozz 12.02.2014 15:04 |
Walter White wrote: On the flipside, I was going to open this post up by saying "lay off guys, let the dude talk" - until I noted he/she then went on to call us ALL pathetic morons instead of taking the opportunity to explain what they meant.When I see how easy people can be rude in this forum, I began to understand why trolls play the same game with us. - I've tried to play Princes of the Universe live, and all the rhythm changes indeed reminds me complex compositions like the ones present in Queen II. I guess it was composed in guitar by freddie. It gives me the same vibe than Ogre battle in some ways. But some of the chords are not the ones you would choose in guitar.. so I guess it's kinda mixed. |
| Thistle 12.02.2014 18:10 |
Ozz wrote: When I see how easy people can be rude in this forum, I began to understand why trolls play the same game with us.You reckon the OP was trolling us? I thought the POTU being similar to FFMS comment was an attempt at a reaction, but always try to give the benefit of the doubt, given that all sorts of crazy shit goes on here lol. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 12.02.2014 18:58 |
Some guitars were composed by Mack's engineer. |
| cdrom 13.02.2014 02:25 |
I have to apologize to each and everyone of you. I flew off the handle out of frustration because I didn't receive any serious or enthusiastic answers. I realize that this was my fault because I didn't really explain why I compared these two songs. I made this comparison because Princes of the universe reminded me earlier Queen/ Freddie songs. The various parts, complex vocals, and different time signatures. These were the songwriting techniques he was using back in the early 70's. So i was wondering if anyone else felt this way about Princes. Basically, I chose the wrong song to compare it to. Please forgive me. |
| john bodega 13.02.2014 05:19 |
You have nothing to be sorry for, ignore these dicks. I think they're too caught up in the superficial concern that there's no harpsichord in Princes of the Universe and therefore can't grasp the point you were making. The songs aren't all that similar, but you can easily tell they were written by the same bloke. Compositionally, Princes has enough different bits in it to be able to say it wasn't written by a complete clod. |
| Vocal harmony 13.02.2014 07:35 |
Ozz wrote: I guess it was composed in guitar by freddie. It gives me the same vibe than Ogre battle in some ways. But some of the chords are not the ones you would choose in guitar.. so I guess it's kinda mixed.Freddie wrote the lyrics. And the chord structure on piano / keyboard. Hence the chords not being natural to a guitar player. I wish he'd written more like this in the 80's. I guess this song proves that had he wanted to he still could. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 13.02.2014 07:54 |
cdrom, Joe Elliot has a simmilar opinion . He loves that song in particular, from the Queen's 80's stuff, because remains him the Queen 70's structure, chorus and harmonies. |
| k-m 13.02.2014 13:55 |
cdrom wrote: I have to apologize to each and everyone of you. I flew off the handle out of frustration because I didn't receive any serious or enthusiastic answers. I realize that this was my fault because I didn't really explain why I compared these two songs. I made this comparison because Princes of the universe reminded me earlier Queen/ Freddie songs. The various parts, complex vocals, and different time signatures. These were the songwriting techniques he was using back in the early 70's. So i was wondering if anyone else felt this way about Princes. Basically, I chose the wrong song to compare it to. Please forgive me.You have nothing to apologise for, man. I saw your point immediately and like someone said above, you really shouldn't worry about some of the dicks that post here. It was clearly one of Freddie's most complex compositions of the 80s, which really stood out on the poppy AKOM. And what a progress compared to 1985's Mr Bad Guy. |
| cdrom 13.02.2014 15:39 |
that's really cool what joe elliot said. |
| Thistle 14.02.2014 09:06 |
^ Glad you decided not to leave, cdrom - it would have been easy to have been put off (although I really do think the banter was harmless and not intended to offend you), and not coming back would have fuelled the thought you posted that statement for a reaction. Now you've explained it, I can see where you're coming from in terms of composition. Sound-wise, obviously not, but POTU has always been a favourite of mine. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 14.02.2014 11:51 |
I always missed they didn't play in the Magic Tour...but Queen's concert in the 80's were very different to the 70's. There is also a something to think... |
| brENsKi 14.02.2014 16:34 |
malicedoom wrote: I love Princes of the Universe. I still can't believe it wasn't a big hit, especially with that incredible video. Go figure...ok. i'll humour you....i find it easy to "figure" this one out. the "lead singles" off the album scraped the top 50 & top 40 in the U.S. - POTU didn't make the U.S. top50 at all - not surprising as it was the third single - and it's the norm for subsequent single releases from an album to perform less-well sales wise. POTU also release in Australia where it performed not quite as well as AKOM - it's album predecessor. POTU wasn't released in any other major territories. As for the video....well MTV was huge in the uS at that time - and everyone was releasing videos - so it was just one video among many |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 14.02.2014 16:44 |
Also, Brensky, remember Queen were not the favorite band for MTV in the 80's... I think they should published as the first single in US... |