| br5946 09.01.2014 14:39 |
Now I'm sure that this will split hairs, but I've been thinking - is a Freddie biopic actually necessary to real fans? What got me thinking this was the P.L. Travers biopic 'Saving Mr. Banks'. Her infamous struggle with Walt Disney is known in reality, but before the film, it wasn't known by many. I suppose you could say the same thing applies to 'Mercury' and causal Queen fans. But do the REAL hardcore fans - i.e. the majority of QZ'ers - get any merit? We have The Untold Story, Magic, Days Of Our Lives, and The Great Pretender already. Yes, Queen-style bombastic script twists on infamous events probably will be fun, but a few fabricated movie myths will I'm sure be met with scorn. What if they work the cocaine dwarf story into the film? Roger only just set us right on that, did he not? I don't mean to come off as a Pamela Travers-style party pooper, I just thought some dedicated souls out there might be thinking the same thing. |
| master marathon runner 11.01.2014 04:21 |
Yeah, you're probably right, I guess we can't all help being totally curious as to how it will all turn out I suppose , and hope it looks well, but we ain't going to be surprised or newly informed as to the storyline content. . And judging by what's been said on QZ about the project, we're the audience that this film doesn't need. |
| Thistle 11.01.2014 04:54 |
Shit, I really need to check for dyslexia - I thought the thread title was biopsy opinions. I got a little worried :/ I'll be giving the film a miss. It's already a farce because of the way it's been handled, and it probably won't offer anything new. I'm really going off all things Queen at the moment. |
| scollins 11.01.2014 06:38 |
I love queen but since end of nov 1991 queen have been a joke and this film wont be any different, brian and roger have dragged queens name through the shitter, no wonder john has feck all to do with them, what will be next queen and reformed s club 7? pathetic |
| noorie 11.01.2014 11:09 |
There are more than enough documentaries about Freddie. I really do not need to see some actor pretending to be him, and giving me some Hollywood (or whatever) version. No, this movie is definitely not for me. |
| andyb1968 11.01.2014 11:46 |
Have to agree with everybody, I can't think of any actor who could do him justice anyway, and will any non Queen Fan be interested ? They should have made a big screen version of WWRY, that might have more general appeal ala MAMA MIA |
| matt z 11.01.2014 14:41 |
Walter White wrote: Shit, I really need to check for dyslexia - I thought the thread title was biopsy opinions. I got a little worried :/ I'll be giving the film a miss. It's already a farce because of the way it's been handled, and it probably won't offer anything new. I'm really going off all things Queen at the moment.Lol. Me too. But I thought it said BIONIC opinion. I thought the spammers were back at it. Maybe "someonewholikescrappola" I think that without the unfortunate passing of fm a biopic is lacking. But it could make for compelling drama What I'm curious about is recreating the concerts. The rigging, etc. .. exactly HOW BIG IS THIS PRODUCTION GOING TO BE? Being that it DOES focus on the eighties (which I liked as a child but didn't get to experience fully) there are many creative and unusual endeavors they undertook. flash... the stylistic change with THE GAME ... crossover success. Eddie Murphy and cross dressing success. When eddie hangs with Freddie and gets introduced to his infatuation with shemales IWTBF, the creative license they'll take with utilizing WWTLF... Roger drunk at the filming. Highlander.. Wembley. The bar fights that injured Freddies leg ... maybe a tie in to "Achilles" since it dogged him in later years. As an exploratory film they have a TON of exciting scenes that would be captivating regardless of any bad casting I hope it turns out Well. |
| Wiley 11.01.2014 16:36 |
There is a great story to be told in there. It could be great, if done well. Ben Wishaw is not just some nobody cast out of the blue. He is a great actor and has the acting chops to pull it off if the script is great. If the script is bad, the good acting and great music will not save the film. Fans will be outraged one way or the other but if the movie is good enough to stand on its feet then it won't matter. Will it take creative licenses? Of course. All of you guys saying a biopic is irrelevant because we have the real deal, Freddie footage, documentaries, interviews, etc., think about this for a second: Most of what we know about Queen has been "filtered" through Queen Productions or Mercury Songs or whatever. The Magic Years, Champions of the World, The Untold Story, Days of our Lives, The Great Pretender... they are hardly scientific studies. They have a script, the director and producers are feeding us a side of the story. The biggest difference with the Biopic is that it will have someone else playing Freddie and the rest of the protagonists. |
| noorie 11.01.2014 19:39 |
^^^^ Still controlled by QPL though. So all we will get to see are fake Queen members playing out the same old story. |
| tero! 48531 12.01.2014 03:02 |
Exactly. Apparently SBC wanted to include something outside the stylised history, and look what happened to him... |
| Heavenite 12.01.2014 04:03 |
It's not for the true fans I wouldn't think, as it's old ground. I reckon much will made of MJ in the studio at the time of Mr Bad Guy, in order to get his fans along to see it. I wonder if his pet llama will get a guernsey?...lol! But from what I've heard, it will probably finish too soon for Montserrat to get a guernsey. Which is leaving out some pretty important stuff relevant to Freddie's life really. , but I guess all that stuff is a whole lot less mainsteam because it's timeframe is a whole lot more mixed up with Freddie's illness. |
| matt z 12.01.2014 05:34 |
noorie wrote: ^^^^ Still controlled by QPL though. So all we will get to see are fake Queen members playing out the same old story.My naive Mind hadn't considered THAT outcome. ..a completely LICENSED AND censored version of events. That would be sad and more of the same self stroking cat. I didn't think sbc would be good becausE he'd go for sensationalism and being the first male actor to have a gay sex scene in a major motion picture (gay as in MEN, not this other lipstick lesbian tripe .. that while visually entertaining has been a breeding ground for un breeding. Fashionably gay. Believe me. ... it happened with media backing after 2001 Anyway. I thought he would cheapen it. Hopefully they don't sanitize it into an episode of the partridge family. Excepting Charlie Parker in BIRD and Jerry Lee. And Ray Charles. .... has there ever truly been an examination of a recording artist in a mainstream venue like this? They have a great opportunity to do something wonderful here. Could be bad though. .. u never know. But one thing is certain. . It will NEVER be as bad as that MAN IN THE MIRROR movie made by vh1 productions. Talk about AWFUL |
| M-train 14.01.2014 12:28 |
I think it all depends on how well the movie turns out. I think they should add some footage of Freddie at the end of the movie which would be nice. I also think SBC shot himself in the foot by getting himself booted from the film as this could have been his break out role. I've seen parts [which was all I could stand] of his other movies, and IMO they are all $hit. |
| SamariaQueen 16.01.2014 15:49 |
Ok. Ok so um you people need to get a life and leave the movie alone. I can not wait to see it so I can prove all you bastards wrong about how "horrible" it will be. And Queen is not the joke and drag queens you all are. |
| matt z 16.01.2014 23:05 |
SamariaQueen wrote: Ok. Ok so um you people need to get a life and leave the movie alone. I can not wait to see it so I can prove all you bastards wrong about how "horrible" it will be. And Queen is not the joke and drag queens you all are.Way to go "first post" You didn't catch the cautiously optimistic vibe of most posters? People that disliked sbc eventually found out that the backers and band didn't like the idea of him either. Okay um so like uh, yeah. UMMMM |
| Pingfah 17.01.2014 10:04 |
matt z wrote: sensationalism and being the first male actor to have a gay sex scene in a major motion picture (gay as in MEN, not this other lipstick lesbian tripe .. that while visually entertaining has been a breeding ground for un breeding.I'm confused. Gay as in MEN? You don't think women can be gay? |
| matt z 18.01.2014 15:46 |
Just indicated that there is little MALE homo stuff in major motion pictures. I think part of sbc's initial desire to be in the film would be to introduce this very real (but imho) disgusting practice. Not homophobic. Just my predisposition is to love women. Because I find it disgusting should be no surprise. Just like butch women find cockerspaniels disgusting Please don't harass me with gay bullying. Was happier when this stuff wasnt shoved in everybodys face |
| M-train 18.01.2014 16:28 |
matt z wrote: Just indicated that there is little MALE homo stuff in major motion pictures. I think part of sbc's initial desire to be in the film would be to introduce this very real (but imho) disgusting practice. Not homophobic. Just my predisposition is to love women. Because I find it disgusting should be no surprise. Just like butch women find cockerspaniels disgusting Please don't harass me with gay bullying. Was happier when this stuff wasnt shoved in everybodys faceI agree with you 100%. I mean we all know Freddie's sexual preference, but to make the movie focus on it would be a turn off for most hetero men, and turn the movie into a political statement. Also, something like that would take away from the main point, and that is Freddie's amazing talent for singing, song writing, and showmanship. I think that SBC did look the part more so than the actor they went with, however had SBC been given the green light to do as he wanted the movie would have been no more than a gay porno. Even though it was Freddie who changed how I think about gay people [I used to hate them, and now I don't], I don't want to see a soft core gay scene, nor would I like to see an explicit sexual scene between a man, and woman in a biopic. Like I mentioned earlier SBC really fucked himself by being an ass, and getting himself booted off the cast, as this movie could have made him. |
| matt z 21.01.2014 01:14 |
I really hope it was just his inability to be an engaging feature film actor, rather than the gay assault on the senses that might have happened, that would be the real reason behind his being sacked. Seemed partially that way to me. The other bit would've been about breaking new ground. Maybe reducing the character of fm. How else do you figure it would have been promoted if it wasn't screened beforehand? Also. Films that aren't screened beforehand are often left to be embarrassments not worth the backing. It seems to hedge on all the suspicion AND on Brian's statement that for sbc's personality to sever itself from this project would be improper (result in scrutiny and jokes). Not the fitting tribute deserved of a companion/brother in arms |
| tcc 21.01.2014 23:05 |
I think the people in QPL may have been put off by sbc's off-screen antics, for example his behaviour on the Oscars when the film the dictator was in the nomination list. They cannot control his off-screen promotion antics and cannot trust him to have a decent sense of decorum. |
| Togg 22.01.2014 04:30 |
Whilst I don't expect the film to become as successful as say Forest Gump, there is without doubt a market for a film about Freddie, there are millions of fans around the world and only a small sector of the Queen community turn up here, we tend to be the most hardcore group but really the film is not aimed at us, if it were than you would not bother, there are only a couple of thousand real Queen mad fans that bother to go to forums, however based on record sales there is still a huge general fan base out there. It will be difficult for any hardcore fan to accept a film about Freddie with actors playing the parts, but the general public will not care a jot, so I expect it will do pretty well as long as it's well written, well acted and the 'feel' of the film seems accurate. |
| Pingfah 22.01.2014 09:19 |
matt z wrote: Just indicated that there is little MALE homo stuff in major motion pictures. I think part of sbc's initial desire to be in the film would be to introduce this very real (but imho) disgusting practice. Not homophobic. Just my predisposition is to love women. Because I find it disgusting should be no surprise. Just like butch women find cockerspaniels disgusting Please don't harass me with gay bullying. Was happier when this stuff wasnt shoved in everybodys faceHah, you sound like the very definition of a homophobe. You don't just find the idea of gay sex disgusting, you seem actually terrified of them. Every word you posted there is dripping with fear. You're paranoid to the point that the very mention of homosexuality is perceived as shoving it in your face. Paranoid to the point that you believe a straight actor wanted to be in the film so he could turn it into a gay fest. It would be funny if it weren't so utterly and completely cowardly and pathetic. |