QueenZone discussion #1364160

mickyparise wrote: Brian May discusses upcoming release Queen star Brian May has discussed plans to release 'new' Queen material, which will feature previously unheard vocals from Freddie Mercury, hinting that it could rival some of the band's best ever work. The legendary band are currently working on a new record, after the discovery of Freddie Mercury demos. May has revealed his surprise at the quantity of the vocals tracks and the quality of the unheard music. "There's more in there than we thought, in the Queen source archive. We've found some Freddie vocals, some demos," says May in a new interviewwith MOJO magazine. "If we find an analogue 24-track of Freddie singing something that never got finished, the first thing we do is transfer it into the digital domain." "We make the copy at the highest resolution you can. Then we start weaving our tapestry." However, despite the recently unearthed material, May revealed that he is uncertain if they have found enough to warrant a full album release, adding: "I'm a little nervous of saying there's an album there, but there's certainly a few tracks." "So at the moment we're working on spinning some new music around those, which is what we did for the Made in Heaven album, which was possibly the best Queen album we ever made." link

jondickens1 wrote: Interesting that the MJ tracks arent mentioned. Problem with release rights? Personally,I couldn't give a monkey's if they're included on the album or not,except maybe Victory as its 'unheard'. TMBMTLTT is average and better without MJ and as for State of Shock,it's a poor B-)side MJ track at best. Bring on Face it alone,New York,Affairs,A new life is born,Man made Paradise etc etc and forget MJ.

MrFunster wrote: + Brian has an own project, probably called Let me in your heart again. I thought Roger also had a song he worked on, but I'm not quite sure about this.

princetom wrote: a 24 track reel filled with freddie's vocals ? best news for ages !

Pingfah wrote: Made in Heaven was decent, and a nice swansong given what they had to work with. But if Brian thinks that is their best album, he is off his fucking rocker.

AlexRocks wrote: I think a new Queen studio l.p. should be done but only after a Queen + studio l.p. and tour are done first! I think a new studio l.p. of and by Queen with Freddie's vocals should be released in 2015 instead!

MadTheSwine73 wrote: I think that the idea of a new album is great. The quality of the songs themselves, however, is a different story altogether. Brian said in the article that Made In Heaven"was possibly the best Queen album we ever made," so with that sort of attitude, as well as the fact of him saying that "there's more in there than we thought," could mean a possible full album release, like Made In Heaven. Most of us are hoping for a "Made In Heaven 2" type of album, and we're all just listing off songs we know exist that we would like to have on the album. However, if Brian said that "there's more in there than we thought," why are most people hoping for "Affairs," "A New Life Is Born" (which we already have most of), or a bunch of other songs we already know of, and have takes of? The only released/unreleased song that I think would really be great to hear a full version of would be "Face It Alone," and depending on what they can do in the studio these days, maybe even "Dog With A Bone," or "Sandbox." Stuff like "My Secret Fantasy," which is basically a finished song, is pretty bad (lyrically) and there have been, and hopefully will be, stronger music than the one on that track. "Feelings, Feelings," the only other song, in my view, that could have been a serious contender for this alleged next album, was issued in 2011, as a bonus track. When it comes to Queenifying old Freddie songs, I'm a little hesitant. They could do so well with so many of his songs, if not all, but here's hoping they choose good ones. Something like "Love Makin' Love," "Mr. Bad Guy," "My Love is Dangerous" or "New York" could be really great. Hopefully they don't choose to make new versions of "Let's Turn It On" and "Foolin' Around." Hopefully they only do one or two (at most three) re-done Freddie songs, if this album ever comes to be. Mind you, I'd love to hear a Queen version of "In My Defence." Also, why don't Brian and Roger do some stuff together just for this album? Sure, "Fun On Earth" wasn't what most of us wanted, when it comes to the "rocker" sound Roger usually gives. Hopefully, if this album ever happens, they could do a few numbers like this. Finally, if anyone is expecting John Deacon to come back for this, stop. If he won't answer phone calls, he won't record a new album. TL;DR - Why hope for songs we already know of? Hope for the unheard songs Brian says are great. Maybe a few re-done Freddie songs, and a few Brian & Roger vocals could be nice. Don't expect John to return.

Rogers Untidy Bottom wrote: There are loads of demo and outtake tracks in the vaults. The overspill from "The Game" and "The Miracle" would be enough for a 70-minute CD. It'll happen at the same time Queen II is released in the form originally intended. That is, never. Too many vested interests in keeping it quiet.

aion wrote: Oh it's definitely a brilliant idea. I love it. The music world doesn't need a new Portishead album, a new Fleet Foxes album, a new Radiohead album or something like that, what the music world truly needs is a new fake Queen album based around samples of Freddie Mercury's voice found in Brian May's basement. It could be called "Made In Heaven 2: Back From Heaven (And Don't Forget To Watch The Movie!)" This is what I'd like the album to have: - full Queen versions of superb demos of great potential like Robbery, My Secret Fantasy and Silver Salmon. I can easily imagine that they could turn "Robbery" into a haunting ballad and make a rousing 5-minute-long rocker out of "Yeah". - a hardcore techno acid house dubgrimegarage remix of Love Of My Life - Dog With A Bone sung (or howled) by real dogs. - a queenified version of Have A Nice Day aka fan club message 1987. This could be the first single and would have a video by the Torpedo Twins with clips of Freddie playing in an eternal loop set against a background of beautiful blue sky and heartwarming sunset. Clearly Freddie would smile in heaven if he saw this magnificent piece of art - a new version of How Can I Go On where they would remove Montserrat Caballe's vocals and instead he would now sing a duet with Garth Brooks. Since pop country is very popular in the U.S. this would help bring Queen new success in America - new remixes, reworkings or updates of such forgotten, rare gems like 'Made In Heaven', 'The Execution of Flash' and 'Radio Gaga' - a new version of We Are The Champions sung by Justin Bieber. Obviously we need to "update" every old Queen song and what better way to bring this song to modern times than by Freddie's favourite singer? - the last track would be 20 minutes of the sound of someone coming down the stairs with an uplifting opera choir echoing in the background; this would indicate that Freddie is now descenting from Heaven as there is potential for 20 more similar Queen albums! The deluxe edition would have a bonus disc that consists of every word Freddie ever recorded on tape, interviews included, meticulously and painstakingly arranged by Brian and Roger for polka music. I can't wait for it.

aion wrote: The deluxe edition would have a bonus disc that consists of every word Freddie ever recorded on tape, interviews included, meticulously and painstakingly arranged by Brian and Roger for polka music.

gerry wrote: yes i agree with your comments. Brian does tell fibbs at times, He always said there wasnt a scrap of tape with freds on it left, now he says "oh weve found some long lost tracks of fred" yeah right, those tracks have been around as long as freds been dead. Brian always does what suits him and not roger. Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!

silver_salmon wrote: It would include three new versions of Say It's not true!

rocknrolllover wrote: If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning!

brENsKi wrote:

rocknrolllover wrote: If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning!

Has Yoda choked on his own thoughts ^^^^ seriously, wtf are you trying to say?

If you didn't understand isn't my guilt!

Heavenite wrote: So Brian and Roger lied. So what? The way I see it, that's great news, because it means there are more Freddie tracks to look forward to. I think there could even be more stuff.

rocknrolllover wrote:

gerry wrote: yes i agree with your comments. Brian does tell fibbs at times, He always said there wasnt a scrap of tape with freds on it left, now he says "oh weve found some long lost tracks of fred" yeah right, those tracks have been around as long as freds been dead. Brian always does what suits him and not roger. Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!

If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning!

brENsKi wrote:

Heavenite wrote: So Brian and Roger lied. So what? The way I see it, that's great news, because it means there are more Freddie tracks to look forward to. I think there could even be more stuff.

honestly? you have no idea how close you are to the truth. but at the same time you're also as far away from the truth as it's possible to be...i'll explain: doesn't matter what point in time you ask Brian or Roger for their honest answer to "how many unreleased tracks are their in the Queen vaults?" because the answer they give you is actually about 10% of the truth.....problem with this is the standard denial from Bri/Rog/QPL of "we didn't know we had those songs/we didn't know how much we had"...because this statement is used EVERY time more stuff is "discovered" - so by default it's going to increase exponentially every time they are asked about some new "discoveries"...fact is - even if there were 800 unreleased tracks - they'd claim there were only 50, then when 100 are discovered in4 yrs time they'll say "oh yeah we never knew we had 100 tracks"...knowing full well they actually have 800

the dude 1366 wrote: This site should just be renamed ShitOnBrianMayZone.com. According to many of you, Freddie and John made no mistakes. If Brian doesn't want to do another album he gets shit on. And now that he is talking about making new stuff he gets shit on. How about we hear it before we pass judgement.

dave76 wrote:

rocknrolllover wrote:

gerry wrote: yes i agree with your comments. Brian does tell fibbs at times, He always said there wasnt a scrap of tape with freds on it left, now he says "oh weve found some long lost tracks of fred" yeah right, those tracks have been around as long as freds been dead. Brian always does what suits him and not roger. Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!

If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning!

Exactly, why are you here, if people have an complaint about you jump right up. And take some english typing lessons.

gerry wrote: Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!

Heavenite wrote: My thoughts exactly brENsKI! It's like they want to make each new "discovery" seems like the last one.

Heavenite wrote: And it works! I mean Made in Heaven went quadruple platinum in the UK. Maybe that's what Brian means when he says it was the best Queen album.

Sebastian wrote: That's why a major part of their job is to publicly say/imply/claim/suggest things that will help those records and tours sell. 'Truth' is not a factor, and it shouldn't be: it's their job to ensure whatever comes out of their mouths (or Twitter account, Soapbox, etc.) will excite the fans and maximise their chance of selling well.

Donna13 wrote: I think they will want some musical surprises for the movie, something we haven't heard yet, being played in a studio scene and/or a scene at Garden Lodge. Then the finished song(s), completed by Brian and Roger, could be released with the movie soundtrack. Sounds like fun to me. Something to look forward to (in my imagination).

Adam Baboolal wrote: My overall point here, is this - just because they lived it, recorded it, heard it, saw it - this means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Adam Baboolal wrote: resume the Brian bashing. :P

Adam Baboolal wrote: Can I just point something out to those pointing their fingers at the Queen archive? When Brian says that they found stuff, you do realise it's totally possible, right? I mean, when I go through my own personal recordings from the years, I might find something that surprises me. Something that I did, that I forgot! Recordings of people I'd forgotten about. Or something else I didn't even know I had kept! And remember, I'm a lot closer to my personal archive which, as it happens, is sitting no more than a metre away on a shelf right now. It's pretty minimal! lol My point is, Brian will have something similar in his home (more organised, I'm sure!). But more likely, he's been as cut off from the Queen archive as any rock star is from their works. My overall point here, is this - just because they lived it, recorded it, heard it, saw it - this means nothing in the grand scheme of things. And the reason I say that is because I've experienced the wonder at going back and finding things I never knew I had. So, with a little less cynicism in the air, maybe you'll see the point I'm trying to make. Either that, or Dude 1366 was right and you'll likely disregard what I'm trying to say and resume the Brian bashing. :P

e-man wrote: has anyone mentioned the "david richards tape" from a few years back? Grand Dame and Affairs I believe the tracks were called?

Vocal harmony wrote: Between 3 and 8 album left in the can??? Only the media could come up with those numbers. As regards BM and RT saying that they've found some Freddie recordings, we don't know if they are whole finished songs, run through of songs that they were working on with a guide vocal that maybe is usable if the song is recorded properly or even scrapped out takes that can be fashioned into something new. They could have said nothing about the stuff that's been found, they may have known about but assumed that it had been dumped or lost long ago. They may have forgotten about a lot of it.

malicedoom wrote: I remember the big "There are MANY ALBUMS worth of new, unreleased material left out there!!!" rumor when it first surfaced. It was around 2 years after Freddie passed, so 2 years before Made In Heaven was released. At the time, their reply was that there was probably not enough new material left to even release a single (full) album, but that they were looking to see what they could do. As it turns out, that quote pretty much ended up being right on the money considering how Made In Heaven was put together, no? Seems like they answered pretty honestly.

zazzizwaziziz wrote: only certain pre made demos and song that fitted the feeling of the album were used

Sebastian wrote:

zazzizwaziziz wrote: only certain pre made demos and song that fitted the feeling of the album were used

That's indeed a very good point. Another one is that certain songs that didn't qualify for the albums could've been rejected for reasons other than their perceived quality. Maybe there wasn't enough room, maybe Freddie didn't like them (and now that he's dead he can't veto them), maybe John didn't like them (and now that he's retired he's not gonna get in the way), maybe Roger didn't like them and now he's changed his mind, maybe Brian didn't like them and now he's changed his mind, maybe there was already something else on the album which was quite similar, etc. We all know how 'Human Body' got demoted to B-Side because Maycury thought the album was already 'melodic enough' (I assume they meant they'd already got sufficient ballads with PtG, SM and SASS, and AHB would've been one too many). That'd also explain why IaBD (too melodic and also just Freddie at that point) also remained unreleased for 15 years, until they found it'd make a good opener for the posthumous project. It doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't good enough for The Game (it's, IMO, way better than Dragon Attack, Don't Try Suicide, Another One Bites the Dust and Coming Soon combined, not that it's saying much though...).

malicedoom wrote: I remember the big "There are MANY ALBUMS worth of new, unreleased material left out there!!!" rumor when it first surfaced. It was around 2 years after Freddie passed, so 2 years before Made In Heaven was released. At the time, their reply was that there was probably not enough new material left to even release a single (full) album, but that they were looking to see what they could do. As it turns out, that quote pretty much ended up being right on the money considering how Made In Heaven was put together, no? Seems like they answered pretty honestly.

"My Love is Dangerous" .

Missreclusive wrote: For example. I work for a gentleman who was Elvis P.s bunk mate in the service. Elvis would sit and play guitar and sing a lot. This man I work for has his own reel to reel recordings of many of those sessions. These have never been heard...nor will he share them. Tell me there isn't far more of Freddie out there!

musicland munich wrote: That story about "shelfed" songs is true and no myth or disremembering. Just for example a snippet from early in 94 (german youth magazine) basicly in this snippet they(Brian May) announced Queen Tour with George Michaels (Picture montage)...later that tour was ruled out by a statement from Roger... but anyway ! Back to topic...it says that about 200 Queen songs were shelfed in various studios.  Other sources from inside the industrie mentioned about material that would be enough for five or six new albums. True? - false? - I don't know.