| cdrom 16.11.2013 23:28 |
I know this has nothing to do with complaints about the new roger taylor box set, but I was hoping to change the subject and discuss a rather overlooked Freddie song, if that's ok. I remember when I first got a copy of The Game; I hated this particular song with a passion. I would skip it every time and wonder why they would include this on such a great album. Years later, I revisited this song and realized that this is yet another great moment from Freddie. I believe that this song was a complete joke to Freddie in the same vain as We Are The Champions was. He took a serious topic/subject and made a joke about it. There are very subtle hints in this song that were meant to be funny. Has anyone else thought about this too? thank you. sincerely, mike. bye bye. |
| Cruella de Vil 17.11.2013 02:47 |
Hi there, I always liked it as it was just so different; Fred on acoustic guitar (my guess) and rollicking piano, wonderful jazzy harmonies that reminded me of Westside Story, clean production, just a lot of fun really. Cheers CDV |
| master marathon runner 17.11.2013 03:00 |
The ability to come up with such diverse pieces like 'suicide' is the reason we all love Freddie. |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 03:56 |
I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil! |
| brENsKi 17.11.2013 04:30 |
rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!you seem to imply this is the best of a "few" you love to bask in your ignorance don't you? there are many songs that take an anti-suicide stance, freddie's is a nice little tune - but nothing special...and certainly nowhere near as great as these: REM - everybody hurts Rush - pass wilson-phillips - Hold On peter gabriel & kate bush - don't give up allman brothers - dreams elton john - someone saved my life tonight |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 04:50 |
brENsKi wrote:It was my point of view, you know.rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!you seem to imply this is the best of a "few" you love to bask in your ignorance don't you? there are many songs that take an anti-suicide stance, freddie's is a nice little tune - but nothing special...and certainly nowhere near as great as these: REM - everybody hurts Rush - pass wilson-phillips - Hold On peter gabriel & kate bush - don't give up allman brothers - dreams elton john - someone saved my life tonight I don't try don't notice other singers, just their songs about anti suicide I don't like so much. |
| Fireplace 17.11.2013 07:36 |
brENsKi wrote:No to mention Freddie's own Keep Passing The Open Windows. No need to start offending people though.rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!you seem to imply this is the best of a "few" you love to bask in your ignorance don't you? there are many songs that take an anti-suicide stance, freddie's is a nice little tune - but nothing special...and certainly nowhere near as great as these: REM - everybody hurts Rush - pass wilson-phillips - Hold On peter gabriel & kate bush - don't give up allman brothers - dreams elton john - someone saved my life tonight |
| scottmax 17.11.2013 09:56 |
Why does every thread end up in being overtaken by the troll. Can't he be banned? Surely someone can get rid of him |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 10:02 |
I only said my opinion in this topic. Don't you like something ? |
| mooghead 17.11.2013 12:13 |
No one cares for your opinion due to the fact you are a persistent, insufferable cunt. |
| cdrom 17.11.2013 12:21 |
I'm thoroughly disappointed in the responses I've read so far. I don't want to sound mean, but did anyone who replied actually read my question? It's a joke. The song Don't try suicide is a joke. The same way we are the champions is a joke. Doesn't anyone else see the humor? It's funny! Yes it's well written. Great composition, well structured, great singing, great overall playing, but your missing the point of my question. |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 12:40 |
mooghead wrote: No one cares for your opinion due to the fact you are a persistent, insufferable cunt.You wrong. Every user has right on his opinion as I have. |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 12:41 |
cdrom wrote: I'm thoroughly disappointed in the responses I've read so far. I don't want to sound mean, but did anyone who replied actually read my question? It's a joke. The song Don't try suicide is a joke. The same way we are the champions is a joke. Doesn't anyone else see the humor? It's funny! Yes it's well written. Great composition, well structured, great singing, great overall playing, but your missing the point of my question.Do you think is joke? |
| cdrom 17.11.2013 13:07 |
Do I think is joke? What does that even mean? that's it. I give up. No wonder I stopped coming on here. |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 13:11 |
cdrom wrote: Do I think is joke? What does that even mean? that's it. I give up. No wonder I stopped coming on here.I think don't try suicide also as keep passing the open windows good actual message so called anti suicide song. |
| mooghead 17.11.2013 13:58 |
I wonder how Brian's chord bursts might have sounded if The Police weren't the biggest band in the world at the time? |
| ANAGRAMER 17.11.2013 14:11 |
rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!You, sir, clearly have no concept of mental illness And, on subject, the Rush song "The Pass" is a far superior song in every way |
| ANAGRAMER 17.11.2013 14:14 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Your addendum makes no sense whatsoeverbrENsKi wrote:It was my point of view, you know. I don't try don't notice other singers, just their songs about anti suicide I don't like so much.rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!you seem to imply this is the best of a "few" you love to bask in your ignorance don't you? there are many songs that take an anti-suicide stance, freddie's is a nice little tune - but nothing special...and certainly nowhere near as great as these: REM - everybody hurts Rush - pass wilson-phillips - Hold On peter gabriel & kate bush - don't give up allman brothers - dreams elton john - someone saved my life tonight Is English your first language? |
| ANAGRAMER 17.11.2013 14:18 |
rocknrolllover wrote:mooghead wrote: No one cares for your opinion due to the fact you are a persistent, insufferable cunt.You wrong. Every user has right on his opinion as I have. I see from your profile that you are Russian. Hah, possibly true...but you are an idiot |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 14:30 |
ANAGRAMER wrote:If you don't like something it won't be trouble me. Because I don't care if someone don't like something.rocknrolllover wrote:I see from your profile that you are Russian. Hah, possibly true...but you are an idiotmooghead wrote: No one cares for your opinion due to the fact you are a persistent, insufferable cunt.You wrong. Every user has right on his opinion as I have. What don't you like if I'm Russian? What you have to against Russians people? |
| mooghead 17.11.2013 14:42 |
"What you have to against Russians people? " You are drunk. |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 14:50 |
mooghead wrote: "What you have to against Russians people? " You are drunk.It better than be punk. |
| mooghead 17.11.2013 14:56 |
YOU MAKE NO SENSE YOU LUNATIC. GO AWAY. |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 14:56 |
mooghead wrote: YOU MAKE NO SENSE YOU LUNATIC. GO AWAY.Are you doctor? |
| rocknrolllover 17.11.2013 15:02 |
mooghead wrote: YOU MAKE NO SENSE YOU LUNATIC. GO AWAY.I think you need more titilation every hour |
| Fireplace 17.11.2013 17:11 |
cdrom wrote: I'm thoroughly disappointed in the responses I've read so far. I don't want to sound mean, but did anyone who replied actually read my question? It's a joke. The song Don't try suicide is a joke. The same way we are the champions is a joke. Doesn't anyone else see the humor? It's funny! Yes it's well written. Great composition, well structured, great singing, great overall playing, but your missing the point of my question.You're absolutely right, so here's my take: Not sure if there wasn't a deeper layer to Don't Try Suicide (there often was in Freddie's lyrics). The lyrics always make me smile though, and just as it was with you the song grew on me over the years. Perhaps you need a certain, ahem, maturity to fully appreciate it. I also happen to think it's a vastly underrated song. I particularly like the sparse intrumentation and the space which was an underlying theme for all of The Game and its successor. It also has a trademark that applies to all of Queen's best songs: it's very difficult to compare to any other band. |
| cdrom 17.11.2013 23:55 |
thank you fireplace. I'm glad someone on here has also understood the humor behind this song. And I guess I really didn't clarify, but I do really love this song and it's actually one of my favorites now. Basically, I love that Freddie never took anything too seriously even when writing a song about suicide. The middle section part( dont do it, don't do it, don't do it babe) cracks me up especially when he yells DO IT! funny stuff. |
| Back2TheLight 18.11.2013 01:27 |
mooghead wrote: I wonder how Brian's chord bursts might have sounded if The Police weren't the biggest band in the world at the time?I'm really glad someone else besides me actually thought this song sounded very much like something off of a Police record lol. Always liked the song but never really delved too much into why Freddie would write about suicide. |
| mike hunt 18.11.2013 02:56 |
brENsKi wrote:You really are a troll, Do you like anything?...you should be ashamed of yourself at you're age. alway's taking the negative stance on everything. Nowhere in this thread has anyone said Don't try Suicide is the best anti Suicide song af all time...I also like the song, the middle section sounds like something from west side story (someone else mentioned already) but I wouldn't say it's one of freddie's very best songs. A nice song on a very good Album.rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!you seem to imply this is the best of a "few" you love to bask in your ignorance don't you? there are many songs that take an anti-suicide stance, freddie's is a nice little tune - but nothing special...and certainly nowhere near as great as these: REM - everybody hurts Rush - pass wilson-phillips - Hold On peter gabriel & kate bush - don't give up allman brothers - dreams elton john - someone saved my life tonight |
| john bodega 18.11.2013 06:12 |
This song is just more 'do as I say, not as I do' from Freddie I'm afraid. |
| cdrom 18.11.2013 06:16 |
80% of people that are posting on queenzone.com are mentally disabled. - Tom Hanks |
| brENsKi 18.11.2013 07:34 |
Fireplace wrote: No to mention Freddie's own Keep Passing The Open Windows. No need to start offending people though.there was no offence there that i could see. statement of fact - and nothing more or less. in fact where have YOU been when Rocknrollover's been flamed elsewhere? or do you deem those comments not offensive? - just mine? which - taking into account that i didn't use insulting terms or nouns (i can if you want) makes my comment much less "offensive" than the others you've "overlooked" ...perhaps that says more about you than me? |
| brENsKi 18.11.2013 07:42 |
mike hunt wrote:jeez Mike!!!brENsKi wrote:You really are a troll, Do you like anything?...you should be ashamed of yourself at you're age. alway's taking the negative stance on everything. Nowhere in this thread has anyone said Don't try Suicide is the best anti Suicide song af all time...I also like the song, the middle section sounds like something from west side story (someone else mentioned already) but I wouldn't say it's one of freddie's very best songs. A nice song on a very good Album.rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!you seem to imply this is the best of a "few" you love to bask in your ignorance don't you? there are many songs that take an anti-suicide stance, freddie's is a nice little tune - but nothing special...and certainly nowhere near as great as these: REM - everybody hurts Rush - pass wilson-phillips - Hold On peter gabriel & kate bush - don't give up allman brothers - dreams elton john - someone saved my life tonight read RnRO's post - and my post 1. i haven't trolled 2. it wasn't negative - i said "it's a nice little tune" - that's positive NOT negative 3. read his (RNRO) attempt at English - he's appearing to imply it is the "best of a few" 4. i even went as far as to point him in the direction of (imo) some great anti-suicide tunes - that's not something a troll would do feel free to retract. also, what's age got to do with it? i have an opinion about your reply - but i wouldn't say "you should be ashamed at your age"...as you're also voicing your opinion - something you don't deem me allowed to do. thanks |
| Fireplace 18.11.2013 08:04 |
brENsKi wrote:Sorry, I missed that party. Got well underway, but stumbled over a sign that said "Don't Feed The Trolls". So all my post says about me is basically that I do not take you for a troll.Fireplace wrote: No to mention Freddie's own Keep Passing The Open Windows. No need to start offending people though.there was no offence there that i could see. statement of fact - and nothing more or less. in fact where have YOU been when Rocknrollover's been flamed elsewhere? or do you deem those comments not offensive? - just mine? which - taking into account that i didn't use insulting terms or nouns (i can if you want) makes my comment much less "offensive" than the others you've "overlooked" ...perhaps that says more about you than me? Feel free to object. |
| Saint Jiub 18.11.2013 10:53 |
dbl post |
| Saint Jiub 18.11.2013 10:54 |
brENsKi wrote:"you love to bask in your ignorance don't you?"mike hunt wrote:jeez Mike!!! read RnRO's post - and my post 1. i haven't trolled 2. it wasn't negative - i said "it's a nice little tune" - that's positive NOT negative 3. read his (RNRO) attempt at English - he's appearing to imply it is the "best of a few" 4. i even went as far as to point him in the direction of (imo) some great anti-suicide tunes - that's not something a troll would do feel free to retract. also, what's age got to do with it? i have an opinion about your reply - but i wouldn't say "you should be ashamed at your age"...as you're also voicing your opinion - something you don't deem me allowed to do. thanksbrENsKi wrote:You really are a troll, Do you like anything?...you should be ashamed of yourself at you're age. alway's taking the negative stance on everything. Nowhere in this thread has anyone said Don't try Suicide is the best anti Suicide song af all time...I also like the song, the middle section sounds like something from west side story (someone else mentioned already) but I wouldn't say it's one of freddie's very best songs. A nice song on a very good Album.rocknrolllover wrote: I like this song. Nice melody and voice which tells you , "don't try suicide"! if there's best song against suicide so this song is one of the few against this evil!you seem to imply this is the best of a "few" you love to bask in your ignorance don't you? there are many songs that take an anti-suicide stance, freddie's is a nice little tune - but nothing special...and certainly nowhere near as great as these: REM - everybody hurts Rush - pass wilson-phillips - Hold On peter gabriel & kate bush - don't give up allman brothers - dreams elton john - someone saved my life tonight How is this above statement not offensive? You were singled out for a very good reason. Your insulting and baiting of RNRO for his innocuous opinion of DTS triggered the ruining of a decent topic. Your insults would have been better directed at RNRO's inflammatory "AMAZING RAINBOW" topic, where QZ rightfully pilloried RNRO for resuming his petty insults of QPL contractors. Of course, it would be better to ignore RNRO and deny him his perverse joy he receives whenever he baits QZ. |
| rocknrolllover 18.11.2013 11:09 |
I'm not a Troll, and I got to do with it |
| Saint Jiub 18.11.2013 16:41 |
dbl post |
| dougie 18.11.2013 19:50 |
"Don't Try Suicide" is a black comedy piece. Roger has remarked that he found the track to be quite funny. A review back in the day questioned the sincerity of the anti-suicide message when the refrain ("You need help. . . .) was in the style of a "blues revival" or something like that. Does anyone know the review to which I'm referring? I want to find it so that I can get the exact term that the reviewer used. I always enjoyed the song. One small thing I like about it is how easy it is to pick out Brian and Roger's individual vocals -- for example, on the repeated lines, "You got it." |