Stelios 30.09.2013 10:44 |
Apart from the great guitar solo and the "semi-oriental" bass hook there is something in Freddie's performance that is unique. It takes me to a strange mood. He sounds like having a cold and with his spirits not exactly "up". But that adds a depth to his singing i can't actually expalin. Its like his singing from a strange place that lovey-dovey stuff are not a part of his life anymore, but he sings it becouse he knows that is a part of others people. Like singing for someting he celabrated a lot in his life but now he sings it just for us as a wise man who have done all that but holds no hard feelings that he cant no longer participate. Like "The show must go on " in practice in a way. |
master marathon runner 30.09.2013 13:13 |
Mmmm, very interesting viewpoint. |
mooghead 30.09.2013 13:24 |
wtf? |
Hangman_96 30.09.2013 16:44 |
Excuse me... what?? |
Back2TheLight 30.09.2013 20:34 |
Hmm. No. I don't see that. The song was not even a song until David Richards brainchilded (if that's even a word) it together and it gave Queen a song. |
Ale Solan 30.09.2013 21:38 |
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Martin Packer 01.10.2013 04:34 |
I suspect the pitch / timing of the original Freddie fragment were mucked with. Might give it the edge the OP detected. |
brENsKi 01.10.2013 07:01 |
as it's established fact that all of the pitching, effects and phasing done on this track were done AFTER his death, then it's completely safe to say that the OP is imagining this "melancholy" |
matt z 01.10.2013 10:03 |
Do you mean to suggest that there are feelings of RESIGNATION in the song? It's all speculation but I wouldn't dare to guess who the subject (if any) is. .... could be a slight possibility that the song is just themed as a blues number. I don't think much was changed in the studio. The phrasing he uses is timed and deliberate. I don't believe it's "faked" with studio trickery. It's likely that the reason "there was no song to speak of" until Dave Richards worked at it was because he was present at the recordings while others were not. |
k-m 01.10.2013 19:14 |
Interesting observation OP, but you must admit the Show Must Go On comparison doesn't exactly work? ;) For me, Fool Me is quite an intimate track and despite of all the attempts to make it a Queen song it doesn't sound very Queen to me. Maybe that's what makes it stand out. It makes me think, along with Mother Love, about a slightly different direction they could have taken had they had the time to record more new songs for their last album... As bad as it may sound. A stripped down, sombre version of Queen. |
Stelios 02.10.2013 06:48 |
Yes. Resignation sums it up quite fairly. |
Band Forever 02.10.2013 07:39 |
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Band Forever 02.10.2013 07:46 |
You all know the story of the song, so i guess there would a hint of melancholy in there. I thought it was one of the stand out songs of MIH, with a great bass riff and excellent guitar work by Dr May with the solo, he doesn't do too many bad ones. It seems Roger was one of the more creative songwriters of this period in Queen. |
tomchristie22 02.10.2013 09:36 |
The tone of resignation is there, for sure, but I think you're reading too much into it. |
Adam Baboolal 02.10.2013 12:03 |
brENsKi wrote: as it's established fact that all of the pitching, effects and phasing done on this track were done AFTER his death, then it's completely safe to say that the OP is imagining this "melancholy"What a load of tosh! His vocals are pretty out front and clear to hear. It's not swamped in anything particular. Or to somehow delude us into thinking anything other than what is truly on show here, i.e. his raw emotional vocal. Matt Z has some good points and tbh, this song is pretty clear. When I heard YDFM on my newer monitors (3 years on), the edits are a lot clearer vocal-wise. Even more so, are Freddie's actual vocals. By that, I mean the following... Let's be frank about this, we've heard of the shape Freddie was in when recording the later stuff - the vodka, the propping up, tiredness, etc. But for me, YDFM is 2nd track (after Mother Love) where I really hear Freddie. It's quite raw. And it's something I never truly heard for many, many years. Anyway, that's my two cents into the whole thing. Personally, I think we were hearing Freddie coming through on that one. |
Martin Packer 02.10.2013 13:15 |
I also love the song. I'd love to know more about its construction. It manages to sound like a complete Freddie vocal, somehow. |
brENsKi 02.10.2013 14:05 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:thanks for dissing my comments entirely.brENsKi wrote: as it's established fact that all of the pitching, effects and phasing done on this track were done AFTER his death, then it's completely safe to say that the OP is imagining this "melancholy"What a load of tosh! His vocals are pretty out front and clear to hear. It's not swamped in anything particular. Or to somehow delude us into thinking anything other than what is truly on show here, i.e. his raw emotional vocal. Anyway, that's my two cents into the whole thing. Personally, I think we were hearing Freddie coming through on that one. righto - my observations were this: 1-20 seconds - almost vocal entirely adjusted 25-1:00 min - "you don't fool mes" adjusted in several different ways 1:02-1:20 again these "sounds" are meddled with there's loads more on the end of individual lines...phasing/echos etc second verse and chorus are much the same if anyone on the planet sings "clean" like this then I'm father christmas - Freddie must be the only singer ever to have a natural echo/phasing he could invoke at will perhaps you should clean the shit out of your ears - because the vocals are full of effects be nice if you could retract your "tosh" comment now |
Adam Baboolal 02.10.2013 14:28 |
Brenski, you've missed the point here. No-one here (including myself) said anything about there being no effects on his vocals. Or even the idea of editing of the vocals. If you don't know, I am someone who knows just how much editing goes into the end product of a song, i.e. lots! And no, the "tosh" comment stands, as it relates to how you seem to think that the effects you mentioned, somehow created any melancholy. Rather than, you know, maybe that melancholy/feeling comes from Freddie's performance. Emoting is a powerful thing, which is why people use music as an outlet. And not just musicians either - I'm talking about writers that use music to adjust their mood to help write something. Or even film directors that play music to convey the right feeling to the actors in a scene. And in this case, Stelios felt something from Freddie's delivery on YDFM. Something that, in recent years, I have certainly felt . |
brENsKi 02.10.2013 17:02 |
Adam then YOU also missed my point. because whatever the OP might think - my ears tell me there is no melancholy in the singing of that song now if someone had suggested Nevermore, Somebody to Love, Bijou, Jealousy, Love of My Life or even (ahem) My Melancholy Blues, then i'd have accepted it...but this song does not have any melancholy about it. but i'm backing out of this one now - before somebody calls me a "deaf c*nt" |
Adam Baboolal 02.10.2013 19:28 |
Use all the crude words you want, dude. We all have opinions on things here. Maybe you should think about that and just agree to disagree rather than call the guy out by saying he's imagining it. |
Stelios 05.10.2013 03:15 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: And in this case, Stelios felt something from Freddie's delivery on YDFM. Something that, in recent years, I have certainly felt .Happy that someone elce can feel that too. |
Day dop 06.10.2013 17:33 |
"He sounds like having a cold and with his spirits not exactly "up"." It's called having AIDS. |
Stelios 07.10.2013 05:13 |
Day dop wrote: "He sounds like having a cold and with his spirits not exactly "up"." It's called having AIDS. Really? I thought he was having a bad day ! |
Saint Jiub 07.10.2013 09:03 |
Ale Solan wrote: linkBan this homophobe NOW |