| Snackpot 26.08.2013 19:23 |
Looking it up it seems as if the title track from the 1995 album was never released as a single, at least in the UK. Listening to the album it's probably the most obviously 'commercial' record on it with the added bonus of being the title track with the extra added bonus of the rather 'prophetic' impact the song would have had having been released at the time. I know it was released as a single a few years earlier as a solo project but I was still surprised to learn the single never got it's own release as the titular track on the album. I think had it been given that exposure it would have become one of the biggest hits, probably even number 1. It also seems odd to go to the trouble of re-working the song just to have it as an album track |
| The Real Wizard 26.08.2013 21:52 |
Most of the songs on the album were old things that were reworked in some way. Not sure why this track stands out in that regard. Still one of my faves. |
| Pim Derks 26.08.2013 22:56 |
I think it maybe was considered as a single. Some of the European posters said "Including Heaven For Everyone, A Winter's Tale and Made In Heaven" if I'm not mistaken. |
| Stick 26.08.2013 23:01 |
My poster says "Includes Made In Heaven and A Winters Tale. |
| tero! 48531 26.08.2013 23:35 |
I think it was an excellent choice to NOT make singles out of the two solo tracks. You wouldn't want to put too much emphasis on the fact that you are reworking solo material to scrape together enough tracks for a full album... Not to mention that they went overboard in their Queenifying, and made the songs sound more like fan remixes than actual Queen songs. |
| Supersonic_Man89 27.08.2013 07:54 |
I think the band did a really good job with the solo projects, but i believe I Was Born To Love You would have been a bigger hit, potentially number one if it was released ahead of Heaven For Everyone, which for me is a pretty average song and got to no. 2 mostly on the fact it was Queen's first single since TATDOOL |
| Michael Allred 27.08.2013 08:01 |
if I recall correctly, "Made in Heaven" was to be the final single released off the album, woulda had a 12" picture disc, etc but was dropped in favor of "You Don't Fool Me" when that song started catching on in dance clubs. |
| una999 27.08.2013 13:36 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I think the band did a really good job with the solo projects, but i believe I Was Born To Love You would have been a bigger hit, potentially number one if it was released ahead of Heaven For Everyone, which for me is a pretty average song and got to no. 2 mostly on the fact it was Queen's first single since TATDOOLHeaven For Everyone, is perhaps one of Queen's best songs! It can suffer from the key it's in (C) but it has a certain feel to it and even Roger speaking about the song acknowledged it's only when you hear Freddie Mercury sing the song you realise how much further and to a different level he could take it. It has one of those mysterious Queen feels to it, perfect listening to after some Queen II, a different era a more mature sound. I Was Born to Love You is a good song, don't think it'd have done any better than releasing Made In Heaven, but who knows! |
| IanR 27.08.2013 13:37 |
"Heaven For Everyone" did cause bit of a stir at the time (in the negative sense), because the album had been billed as containing 'unreleased' recordings, and then the first single turns out to be a re-worked solo number. I remember quite vividly the day Jack Gunn appeared on the BBC 5Live breakfast show to defend the band. |
| brENsKi 27.08.2013 13:38 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I think the band did a really good job with the solo projects, but i believe I Was Born To Love You would have been a bigger hit, potentially number one if it was released ahead of Heaven For Everyone, which for me is a pretty average song and got to no. 2 mostly on the fact it was Queen's first single since TATDOOLi fail to see how you can deem HFE and it's highest chart position (no2) as average? if you look at the queen catalogue HFE is in pretty repesctable company - Somebody To Love, Killer Queen, Champions/Rock You, Crazy little Thing & GaGa all peaked at no2. also, you're suggesting that - for a band past its commercial peak - you feel that IWBTLY would've reached No1...something that (until Freddie's death) they'd only achieved three times (UK chart placings) |
| una999 27.08.2013 13:42 |
brENsKi wrote:I agree, I think Heaven For Everyone is up there with Queen's best, especially as an alternative to the better known songs. Wish it got played on the radio!Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I think the band did a really good job with the solo projects, but i believe I Was Born To Love You would have been a bigger hit, potentially number one if it was released ahead of Heaven For Everyone, which for me is a pretty average song and got to no. 2 mostly on the fact it was Queen's first single since TATDOOLi fail to see how you can deem HFE and it's highest chart position (no2) as average? if you look at the queen catalogue HFE is in pretty repesctable company - Somebody To Love, Killer Queen, Champions/Rock You, Crazy little Thing & GaGa all peaked at no2. also, you're suggesting that - for a band past its commercial peak - you feel that IWBTLY would've reached No1...something that (until Freddie's death) they'd only achieved three times (UK chart placings) |
| Martin Packer 27.08.2013 14:37 |
My initial reaction to HFE on MIH was that I didn't like it nearly as much as the original (album) version. But it's grown on me - probably because of Brian's guitaring. But I still prefer the original. |
| Supersonic_Man89 27.08.2013 16:55 |
[quote]i fail to see how you can deem HFE and it's highest chart position (no2) as average? if you look at the queen catalogue HFE is in pretty repesctable company - Somebody To Love, Killer Queen, Champions/Rock You, Crazy little Thing & GaGa all peaked at no2. also, you're suggesting that - for a band past its commercial peak - you feel that IWBTLY would've reached No1...something that (until Freddie's death) they'd only achieved three times (UK chart placings)[/quote] I said i felt the song was average, not the charting position. However, I felt that the band had a good chance of getting to number one with their 'comeback' single in 1995, as most of the sales would have stemmed from nostalgia, and i think 'I Was Born To Love You', was more of the kind of 'Queen' upbeat, catchy song the audience would expect/enjoy rather than the slightly different/mellow sound of HFE. |
| brENsKi 27.08.2013 17:22 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I said i felt the song was average, not the charting position. However, I felt that the band had a good chance of getting to number one with their 'comeback' single in 1995, as most of the sales would have stemmed from nostalgia, and i think 'I Was Born To Love You', was more of the kind of 'Queen' upbeat, catchy song the audience would expect/enjoy rather than the slightly different/mellow sound of HFE. ok. i'll humour you. righto. on the basis of queen having a better chance of a No1 hit with your so-called "queen upbeat catchy song the audience would expect" their previous No1s - Bo Rhap, UP, Innuendo and TATDOOL - none are upbeat and only UP is what you'd call a singalong/catchy song |
| The Fairy King 27.08.2013 19:19 |
Could, shoulda,woulda, but didn't. |
| k-m 28.08.2013 07:17 |
I must say I prefer the Queen versions than solo ones. The only song which I don't particularly like is IWBTLY, which suffers from overproduction in my opinion. Made in Heaven - good song, quite anthemic, but I don't think it would have been a big hit at all. I doubt it would crack the Top 10. I remember thinking it sounded a bit obsolete too, strange as it may seem. |
| dudeofqueen 28.08.2013 08:10 |
A mate and I attended that launch party at Hammersmith Odeon and IWBTLY was the ONLY track that came across as though the band could have been in the room playing it - absolutely sensational with, again, beautifully recorded drums; the snare is a joy! |
| jeffuk49 28.08.2013 14:13 |
dudeofqueen wrote: A mate and I attended that launch party at Hammersmith Odeon and IWBTLY was the ONLY track that came across as though the band could have been in the room playing it - absolutely sensational with, again, beautifully recorded drums; the snare is a joy!still got tshirt and bag, great day that was |
| AssDudeRule 28.08.2013 19:19 |
It was here in Australia and did pretty well on the charts. |
| Chrisallstar 29.08.2013 02:28 |
Michael is right it was meant to be the fifth single but they went with 'You Don't Fool Me' as it did pick up a lot of airplay. It's a shame really as they did a really good job in turning an average Freddie song into a powerful Queen song. Not to mention that this song also had a rare promo video for it starring Freddie - it would have been perfect! In the original video freddie is on stage singing the song in a theatre production - it would have been easy to add Brian, Roger and John by having them perform the song in the orchestra stalls and edit the footage together...oh well instead they went with those crappy BFI films... |
| dudeofqueen 29.08.2013 03:08 |
>instead they went with those crappy BFI films... I thought that was a nice idea actually - promoting the British film industry which needed all the help it could get at the time. I'd prefer that over a cobbled together DoRo shambles. |
| Chrisallstar 29.08.2013 15:40 |
Except that they didn't make sense and weren't given any airplay by music TV. Apart from that, a major success! |
| Lord Gaga 29.08.2013 18:25 |
dudeofqueen didn't say they were a major success, s/he just said s/he thought they were nice ideas. I personally also like them, because it's different from watching the band performing the songs (yawn) or pretending to act (induce cringing). |
| Chrisallstar 30.08.2013 02:32 |
I think having filmmakers interpret the songs is a nice idea but should never have taken the place of a normal promo video. In that sense they failed and Let Me Live and You Don't Fool Me suffered because of it. |
| dudeofqueen 30.08.2013 03:18 |
Chrisallstar, re: >I think having filmmakers interpret the songs is a nice idea but should never have taken the place of a normal promo video. Would you consider the promo for Innuendo to be a normal promo video? They were a success in giving film makers some exposure to a market that they previously might not have had access to. Maybe if they'd resurrected FM for the filming then we could have had your "normal promo video", but other than that we would have been given more DoRo chop and change montages as with The Show Must Go On and In My Defense - no thanks. >In that sense they failed and Let Me Live and You Don't Fool Me suffered because of it. Who / what failed? The films, Queen, the direrectors? Neither of the songs would have been a major chart hit (if that's what you're after) for the band as the market for their singles had dropped dramatically. The songs themselves (the actual product) failed as they didn't attract any 'buyers". |
| Chrisallstar 30.08.2013 16:25 |
Innuendo video is totally different as it featured the band or images of the band and footage that somewhat went with the music. I've already suggested an interesting way that Bri, Rog and John could have edited themselves into the Made In Heaven Promo video that Freddie starred in. Let Me Live could have been a performance video similar to NOBY as Brian and Roger both sing verses. Both of my suggestions would have resulted in increased airplay on music television. Even now on Queen countdown programmes on Vh-1 or MTV 'Let Me Live' and 'You don't fool me' are never played and the reason is that that both have meaningless films attached to them. So in this regard they have failed to become proper promo videos as the songs are never "promoted" and that is down to the filmmaker and Queen. Just because you may like art-house cinema doesn't mean that it's the right thing for a pop/rock promo video. A vide should successfully promote the single and the films created for these songs failed to do that. |
| DLCVinnuendo 31.08.2013 09:29 |
i think that the five singles of MIH atre corrected chioces, but for me, not release vinyl singles for HFE and AWT was very strange |
| Snackpot 18.09.2013 16:09 |
I think it's kinda interesting to consider song writer royalties. Both songs that Brian and Roger would have received solo writing credit (and therefore a bigger cheque) for if released as singles, both were. The two tracks the Freddie penned and therefore would have meant his estate got a bigger cheque as a result - weren't, aside from IWBTLY which was released only in Japan Maybe this played an important role in deciding what was and wasn't going to be released. Not releasing what was the title track of the album, in any circumstance, would be an unexpected choice. |