QueenZone discussion #1356114

AlbaNo1 wrote: I think Queen got a lot more respect from other musicians than the critics. That says a lot about how good they really were.

AlbaNo1 wrote: I think Queen got a lot more respect from other musicians than the critics. That says a lot about how good they really were.

The Real Wizard wrote: That's actually quite a lot coming from Zappa. Very little modern music actually impressed him.

Thistleboy1980 wrote:

AlbaNo1 wrote: I think Queen got a lot more respect from other musicians than the critics. That says a lot about how good they really were.

And now I'm thinking Zappa WASN'T crazy :p

The Real Wizard wrote: That doesn't surprise me, either. From a technical standpoint, most guys were just playing pentatonic licks.  Brian was one of the few players really pushing the envelope and doing unique things with the guitar. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Howe impressed him too.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: That's actually quite a lot coming from Zappa. Very little modern music actually impressed him.

He did always respect innovative production techniques, which is also what he seemed to appreciate in Queen. I'm curious - what interview is this from?

MERQRY wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: That's actually quite a lot coming from Zappa. Very little modern music actually impressed him.

He did always respect innovative production techniques, which is also what he seemed to appreciate in Queen. I'm curious - what interview is this from?

Sorry for the delay. i'm agree with both of you! I could add that apparently he (frank) had a kind of structuralist view of music wich isn't too common in the general public. The interview was made by "It Magazine", Circa 1977 (acording my source it was the number 7, mainly dedicated to zappa's music).

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: That's true about musicians respect. I talked with Rob Zombie, Lisa Gerrard (Dead Can Dance), Alice Cooper, Joe Perry, and the list goes on and on...and all known well Queen and respect them, except some cases like Paul Weller. In usa musicians, they love 70's queen records, knowing the songs, etc...not only for talk (like Kid Rock who told me he loves Queen and did'nt know to say the tittle of any Queen albums...). Even Sasha Grey or Alan Moore, outside from music, respect Queen. Sasha Grey is fan. Moore not fan, but respect them.

Mr.QueenFan wrote: Here's a funny video of Frank Zappa's son expalining his relation with Eddie Van Halen: link Brian May has told a story where Frank Zappa was on a Queen concert backstage and Brian wasn't confortable with something. Frank Zappa asked him what was wrong and Brian told him that he had missed a note and made a mistake. Zappa told him that it wasn't a mistake, because according to Zappa he wrote the song, it was his music, so he could play it has he wished.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

MERQRY wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: That's actually quite a lot coming from Zappa. Very little modern music actually impressed him.

He did always respect innovative production techniques, which is also what he seemed to appreciate in Queen. I'm curious - what interview is this from?

Sorry for the delay. i'm agree with both of you! I could add that apparently he (frank) had a kind of structuralist view of music wich isn't too common in the general public. The interview was made by "It Magazine", Circa 1977 (acording my source it was the number 7, mainly dedicated to zappa's music).

Thanks, that's really interesting to hear! If it was roughly 1977, that puts it in the time Zappa made "Zoot Allures", a time when Zappa was more rock-oriented than usual, and moving away from his earlier work

it was the first album to drop the "& The Mothers of Invention" from the artist's name

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Well, Sasha WAS a porn star. Sasha has a music band, more near to Throbbing Gristle than the stupid music Paris Hilton published. If you know Throbbing Gristle, Coil and this kind of bands. And she demonstrated she was a good actrees in The Girlfriend Experience. If you are a sexist who can't believe an ex porn actress would be intelligent and did artistic things, is your fucking problem. Is nothing comparable to Paris Hilton. I doubt Paris Hilton can talk to you about her favorite records of Bauhaus, or Scott Heron or Queen, and arguee about it. Sasha, yes. And...what is an artist? Is rock art or entertainment? There are a fine line between both concepts, so don't try to be so prejugder.

The Real Wizard wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

MERQRY wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: That's actually quite a lot coming from Zappa. Very little modern music actually impressed him.

He did always respect innovative production techniques, which is also what he seemed to appreciate in Queen. I'm curious - what interview is this from?

Sorry for the delay. i'm agree with both of you! I could add that apparently he (frank) had a kind of structuralist view of music wich isn't too common in the general public. The interview was made by "It Magazine", Circa 1977 (acording my source it was the number 7, mainly dedicated to zappa's music).

Thanks, that's really interesting to hear! If it was roughly 1977, that puts it in the time Zappa made "Zoot Allures", a time when Zappa was more rock-oriented than usual, and moving away from his earlier work

Bingo, that'd make sense.

it was the first album to drop the "& The Mothers of Invention" from the artist's name

Wasn't Hot Rats the first?

FunLovinCriminal wrote: Even though Frank may have expressed that he liked certain aspects of the music of Queen, it certainly didn't stop it from making fun of it. In a TV-docu filmed in Munich in 1978, he announced a new song, „Why Does It Hurt When I oee?", which later appeared on the wonderful „Joe's Garage“-album, as being in line with „pseudo English pomposity“. Anyone who had ever heard that song must clearly have an idea that it was Frank's humorous take on the sometimes overblown arrangements Queen were known for.

Holly2003 wrote: Zappa's one of those critically acclaimed artists I can't get into. I've listened to two of his albums plus a 'best of' collection but his music doesn't do anything for me. Same for Yes, Genesis, Grateful Dead, Joe Satriani and a few others. Aside from a few songs (especially by Genesis), they mostly leave me cold. I think to appreciate them it requires more knowledge of music theory than I have. But even with that admission, it would be hard to make a case for Zappa having a great voice (for example) or that any of these bands express much warmth or emotional depth in their music, which is something of a theme in my music collection.