| Queenman!! 11.07.2013 03:50 |
Amazing!! Finally some great news.... **Thu 11 Jull 13** ROGER TAYLOR AND QUEEN RELEASE NEWS Direct link Roger Taylor has now completed work on his new solo abum, and confirms that this will be released September-ish 2013. Brian and Roger are meeting up today to work on a new Queen release - so more good stuff on the way, folks!! © brianmay.com |
| Kacio 11.07.2013 04:22 |
AMAZING... |
| Vali 11.07.2013 04:23 |
Roger album september-ish ?? alright, we all know this easily means .... December-ish ..... 2014 ?? ;) as for the new Queen album, I don't care anymore, really. Unless it provides unreleased archive stuff, wich is the most utopian scenario |
| FriedChicken 11.07.2013 04:45 |
I guess the Queen release is the ballads compilation album that was scheduled for december 2013. I think it was confirmed at the convention that there would be an unreleased Queen song on it. if I'm correct this song is Let Me In (Your Heart Again). Okay, now who wants to bet that this song will eventually be left off and we will have the same old stuff again. |
| Rick 11.07.2013 04:50 |
They know fans will buy the compilation just for that song (and they have a lot of fans!). The Roger Taylor solo album is definitely something to look forward to :) |
| Kacio 11.07.2013 05:08 |
FriedChicken wrote: I guess the Queen release is the ballads compilation album that was scheduled for december 2013. I think it was confirmed at the convention that there would be an unreleased Queen song on it. if I'm correct this song is Let Me In (Your Heart Again). Okay, now who wants to bet that this song will eventually be left off and we will have the same old stuff again. Maybe you have right |
| splicksplack 11.07.2013 05:19 |
The title of this thread is mis-leading. Brian did not say 'Queen 'album', he said Queen 'release'. That could be be a single. |
| splicksplack 11.07.2013 05:29 |
And why get excited? Everything they do these days is designed to fleece the fans as much as possible. Even if it is an album it's not going to be an album of new material. (They're not Bowie). So if it is another compilation you can guarantee there will be one new track (or more likely a new remix) so that that the completists will feel compelled to buy it. When the band were an operating unit with all four members I could sort of understand a fan wanting everything. But now Queen is 20+ years dead I find it pathetic that some people will continue to blindly snap up every shitty morsal that QPL release to line their pockets. It's not being a fan, it's being gullible. |
| pittrek 11.07.2013 05:31 |
Yes, there is a new (ballads) compilation and a single planned for this Christmas. Not that I care. |
| Hangman_96 11.07.2013 05:36 |
Great, just awesome! But no news on Rainbow again?? |
| splicksplack 11.07.2013 05:40 |
You can organise a direct debit at you bank to have your salary paid straight over to QPL. |
| Negative Creep 11.07.2013 05:40 |
I find it really difficult to believe that an album finished in July will be released in September! |
| Pingfah 11.07.2013 05:44 |
"ish". God damn. |
| Queenman!! 11.07.2013 06:02 |
Well.... or me it's as even exciting when on the soapbox Roger told that he was listening to Dog with a bone and later said that there isn't enough material for a full Queen album with Freddie vocals. Now when this will w be a compilation album with about four or five collabarations. Rod Stewart, Michael Jackson and Andy Gibb or so, that means that we need about 6 tracks with only Freddie vocals or a few with Brian and Roger on it like the early days. So that leaves in the end about four tracks that have pure Freddie's lead voacal on it and QP have these demo's in their vaults to work on. |
| Vali 11.07.2013 06:21 |
Negative Creep wrote: I find it really difficult to believe that an album finished in July will be released in September!Hummmm ... why not? If it's already mixed and mastered, artwork almost ready... and we keep in mind this won't be a pressing of 1 million copies, then ... I guess it could be possible. But once again, as I said above, will cross fingers for a December 2014 release date, hopefully ;P |
| dudeofqueen 11.07.2013 06:25 |
>Rod Stewart, Michael Jackson and Andy Gibb or so, that means that we need about 6 tracks with only Freddie vocals or a few with Brian and Roger on it like the early days. No chance - the amount they would have to pay over in royalties would be prohibitive. Absolutely no interest in this whatsoever. New song or not. |
| rocknrolllover 11.07.2013 07:20 |
Getting thing done. Off the countryside today to record guitars with Brian May. William Orbit. |
| Negative Creep 11.07.2013 08:06 |
Vali wrote:Because it's virtually unheard of via a major record label - assuming it's going to be released via Universal and not independently. They have to promote the album and one would think arrange gigs to coincide. Only weeks ago Roger had reportedly gone back into the studio, so it seems unlikely that it would already have been mastered and even less likely that artwork is finished. I bet you it isn't released this year.Negative Creep wrote: I find it really difficult to believe that an album finished in July will be released in September!Hummmm ... why not? If it's already mixed and mastered, artwork almost ready... and we keep in mind this won't be a pressing of 1 million copies, then ... I guess it could be possible. But once again, as I said above, will cross fingers for a December 2014 release date, hopefully ;P |
| rocknrolllover 11.07.2013 09:22 |
Negative Creep wrote:Why you're so negative?Vali wrote:Because it's virtually unheard of via a major record label - assuming it's going to be released via Universal and not independently. They have to promote the album and one would think arrange gigs to coincide. Only weeks ago Roger had reportedly gone back into the studio, so it seems unlikely that it would already have been mastered and even less likely that artwork is finished. I bet you it isn't released this year.Negative Creep wrote: I find it really difficult to believe that an album finished in July will be released in September!Hummmm ... why not? If it's already mixed and mastered, artwork almost ready... and we keep in mind this won't be a pressing of 1 million copies, then ... I guess it could be possible. But once again, as I said above, will cross fingers for a December 2014 release date, hopefully ;P |
| Negative Creep 11.07.2013 09:33 |
Negativity doesn't come into it - Roger's album won't be released in September. |
| rocknrolllover 11.07.2013 11:11 |
Negative Creep wrote: Negativity doesn't come into it - Roger's album won't be released in September.Rogers's album will be released in September but you won't know it;-) |
| Hangman_96 11.07.2013 11:22 |
May I be the first to know? |
| rocknrolllover 11.07.2013 12:07 |
Lostman wrote: May I be the first to know?:-) bro you're awesome |
| Hangman_96 11.07.2013 14:17 |
rocknrolllover wrote:I'm awesome and I know it.Lostman wrote: May I be the first to know?:-) bro you're awesome |
| Band Forever 11.07.2013 16:44 |
Any new product would be fantastic especially lead vocals recorded by the late, great Freddie and the band with the original line-up, i.e. No guest bass or Adam Lambert or Paul Rodgers. Queen means so much to so many people. If this is not another false dawn; Brian, Roger, and John we look forward to hearing some new quality sounds with the Queen signature. In my eyes you have surpassed the nostalgist's favourite band the over-rated Beatles, and are the template from which today's musicians take their measure. |
| Vocal harmony 11.07.2013 19:37 |
Brian said, "a Queen release". Why do so many people assume it to be an album or single for that matter. It could be The Rainbow DVD or even a DVD of one of last years shows. If it is a "new" album why couldn't it be released towards the end of the year. Doesn't anyone remember in the 70's when ANATO and ADATR were both finished only a month before the release dates and SHA was still being mixed the day of it's press release and then remixes again afterwards. So an album finished in July could easily be released before the end of the year. Of course the ballads album is still a possibility, and it could be that which Brian is talking about. |
| AlexRocks 11.07.2013 22:26 |
I wish to god that a live release would happen that is not related to a film...AND a new studio l.p. with new tracks. The thing is it seems indicated by Brian that a "couple" of new songs have been done which by definition means "two" but on the bright side people sometimes mean that to be a "few" things. Who knows? There also seems to have been discussion of a follow up to the 1997 compilation "Queen Rocks" that would be a compilation of ballads. The title "Queen Forever" has been floated around a few years. I think that title is great but is something that should be done a few years from now after another new studio l.p. or few are done...and with various artists. Otherwise I would love it if they also re-recorded classic Queen songs with guest artists. Beyond all of that I think that they should be doing new solo studio l.p.s and touring behind them. I thought that Brian May had done new recordings (plural) with Kerry Ellis but there seems to be no word on any new studio l.p. on that front...even though they are touring right now....to be continued... |
| splicksplack 12.07.2013 00:27 |
Looks like he means the Fred/Jackson stuff, his latest tweet..... "@DrBrianMay: Great evening with @WilliamOrbit working with some Queen/Freddie/Michael Jackson tapes. Exciting, challenging, emotionally taxing. But cool." |
| rocknrolllover 12.07.2013 00:51 |
Two previously unreleased Queen tracks featuring Freddie Mercury and guest appearances from Michael Jackson are likely to be released this year (2013), it has been revealed. There had been plans in the Queen camp to put together a whole collection of various previously unreleased recordings featuring Mercury, though those plans have seemingly been dropped after Roger Taylor and Brian May decided there were not enough complete demo recordings to justify a full album. However, it seems that the two collaborations with Jackson are suitable for a public airing, and it’s been reported that the tracks have now been cleared by the Jackson estate for release sometime under the Queen banner. link |
| Star&Sun 12.07.2013 00:59 |
I think that it is about a collection of unpublished titles (various sessions 80 especially), of worked again demos, and duets (michael Jackson / rod steward). The album would be produced in partnership with William Orbit or only for the opportunity(occasion) of a single: STATE OF SHOCK? A new album would be the biggest musical event of the year. For me, the album would be in preparation since 2011. Remember the contradiction between Brian and Roger concerning a new unfinished album of demos with freddie in 2011. |
| john bodega 12.07.2013 03:05 |
Honestly I could just piss on them for wasting their time on this shit. The MJ tracks were shit. I'd honestly rather listen to Dr. Murray's 911 call. |
| rocknrolllover 12.07.2013 04:24 |
I would not refused from Rainbow on DVD for complete happiness! |
| rocknrolllover 12.07.2013 04:26 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Honestly I could just piss on them for wasting their time on this shit. The MJ tracks were shit. I'd honestly rather listen to Dr. Murray's 911 call.Then what are you forgot here ? This is a Queen forum! |
| Vali 12.07.2013 05:40 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Exactly. This is a Queen forum. And Zebonka has expressed his opinion regarding a Queen related project.Zebonka12 wrote: Honestly I could just piss on them for wasting their time on this shit. The MJ tracks were shit. I'd honestly rather listen to Dr. Murray's 911 call.Then what are you forgot here ? This is a Queen forum! No one said we cannot criticise nothing here, right? |
| rocknrolllover 12.07.2013 06:12 |
Vali wrote:misplaced criticism of QPLrocknrolllover wrote:Exactly. This is a Queen forum. And Zebonka has expressed his opinion regarding a Queen related project. No one said we cannot criticise nothing here, right?Zebonka12 wrote: Honestly I could just piss on them for wasting their time on this shit. The MJ tracks were shit. I'd honestly rather listen to Dr. Murray's 911 call.Then what are you forgot here ? This is a Queen forum! |
| Pingfah 12.07.2013 06:23 |
Nothing misplaced about it. The MJ tracks are a load of shite. |
| splicksplack 12.07.2013 07:31 |
Everyone has a right to complain here. We are Queen fans, not fuckin Lambert / Ellis / Jackson / Dappy fans and fuck knows what other shit is coming. If they want some respect then they should work on archive material that is in the vaults. Work on getting all those early gigs tarted up and released in the best quality they can. If they want to act like modern day Fagins rubbing their hands at every new money-grabbing scheme that comes up then they will get a disrespectful response. Freddie Mercury' (and Queen)s finest and most creative moments were in the 70's not in the populist Magic 80s. And certainly not in the daft idea's QPL have had since FM's death. The only respect they have is from the bank. And if they're happy with that, they can fuck off. |
| DLCVinnuendo 12.07.2013 09:00 |
Finally a great news!!! |
| Hangman_96 12.07.2013 09:03 |
splicksplack wrote: Everyone has a right too complain here. We are Queen fans, not fuckin Lambert / Ellis / Jackson / Dappy fans and fuck knows what other shit is coming. If they want some respect then they should work on archive material that is in the vaults. Work on getting all those early gigs tarted up and released in the best quality they can. If they want to act like modern day Fagins rubbing their hands at every new money-grabbing scheme that comes up then they will get a disrespectful response. Freddie Mercury' (and Queen)s finest and most creative moments were in the 70's not in the populist Magic 80s. And certainly not in the daft idea's QPL have had since FM's death. The only respect they have is from the bank. And if they're happy with that, they can fuck off.Amen. |
| Kevinrm15 12.07.2013 09:46 |
Brian just posted on his website that they should be out in a couple months. |
| AlexRocks 12.07.2013 11:44 |
Dude! Fagen is AWESOME! What are you talking about?! |
| john bodega 13.07.2013 00:29 |
"Brian just posted on his website that they should be out in a couple months" Brian May is a time lord. For all we know, it could be out in a couple of months in 2085. |
| dowens 13.07.2013 07:31 |
Zebonka, that is hilarious! |
| br5946 13.07.2013 07:41 |
I really don't know what to make of this. Regarding The Unblinking Eye, I doubt it'll ever be released, since the lead single came out FOUR YEARS AGO. And as for the new Queen project, I have high hopes of it being a rehashed compilation - the ballads are good, but if they do want to promote that extra track they've promised, why not just release as a single on a - wait for it - hopefully new album?! |
| AlexRocks 13.07.2013 10:42 |
A "time lord"! Oh my god! I LOVE it! Lol!!! I pray to god that it is a new studio l.p. but Brian and people have said a "couple of tracks" which by definition means two THOUGH people do sometimes mean more than that when it is stated so who knows? |
| oliverd05 13.07.2013 12:50 |
well the new tracks are going to be the Michael Jackson & Freddie stuff, been working on them for a while here and there, so they should be out im thinking before xmas |
| Heavenite 14.07.2013 10:04 |
I think it should be specified what Brian said on his Soap Box, which was: **Fri 12 Jul 13** UNRELEASED TRACKS WITH FREDDIE SINGING Direct link [In reply to question about unreleased tracks - See LETTERS] We did have a great time in Manchester. We are learning all the time. As for unreleased material with Freddie singing … strangely enough I was working on some tapes this evening - with William Orbit. There are a few items in progress. We will have something for folks to hear in a couple of months' time, hopefully. Thanks again. See ya out there ! Bri --- Great evening with William Orbit working with some Queen/Freddie/Michael Jackson tapes. Exciting, challenging, emotionally taxing. But cool. So it would seem to be a few Queen/Jacko tracks in the pipeline. I am thinking that they might be getting released as an appetiser to the forthcoming Freddie movie. |
| dowens 14.07.2013 18:14 |
Not to get off topic here, but I wonder if they are working on "You Are the Only One" for the ballads album? That would be incredible! I think there's plenty of Freddie's vocals on that demo to sing as a trio with Roger and Brian! |
| inu-liger 14.07.2013 23:22 |
The problem with that demo, Dowens, is that unless a much more proper studio take exists with much more in the way of developed lyrics, they will never work on turning that into a full song. |
| SimonFerocious 15.07.2013 20:52 |
We heard some time ago that Brian and Roger were working on a new version of State of Shock with Freddie singing with Michael Jackson. Then nothing came of it. If it is State of Shock being released at last, that would be awesome, I'd love to hear Brian playing that riff and it would be a monster global hit with those two giants singing together. Hard to get excited about a new Queen album after the lacklustre Cosmos Rocks album. Recycling their old hits into a new package doesn't really excite me either. A decent new live album or live compilation is about the only thing that most Queen fans really want from them. |
| dowens 15.07.2013 22:04 |
Ah, ok Inu-liger. Stinks though, that is a GREAT track. Would have loved to heard it finished. |
| divinegnome 15.07.2013 22:09 |
I so wish that QUEEN would release a brand new album! Even if it was without Freddie or finish the tracks that they already have with Freddie on the vocals. At the time that they were all 4 Freddie didn't sing all the song so why not have Brian and Roger also do a couple of tracks as well. I don't think that Brian and Roger has lost the ability to write new tracks. They have always been able to so. Why not now. I'm not that excited about a new compilation album with one new track on it. And a whole album full of ballads. They could do so much more! |
| ili 17.07.2013 01:19 |
For those of you who say that Roger can not release the album in September, which is 2 months from now; Remember that Queen used to release albums only 1 month after recording had been completed in the 70s. (eg, A Day At The Races, News Of the World, Jazz) |
| inu-liger 17.07.2013 03:27 |
Some people don't also understand the way music promotion and marketing works these days, especially in an age where you have to promote it pretty much "virally" 'lest you want to miss the boat. Not that I always agree with that method, personally. |
| dudeofqueen 17.07.2013 03:49 |
.....and a Roger Taylor solo release will generate virtually NO interest outside of the Queen fan-base and even then there are a LOT of fans who wouldn't be interested in HIS material. Roger could ok the final mastering and push it out the following day whilst achieving the same impact as he'd have if the label spent millions on promotion. PS - do w eknow what label this will be coming out on? Island, I assume.......? |
| Negative Creep 17.07.2013 05:50 |
As you may have noticed we are not in the 70's any more. Seems some people here don't understand how modern major labels work...! Assuming it's being released on Universal, if the label think it has much potential it won't be coming out in September and that's assuming the album has already been mastered and artwork completed already (both seem unlikely). Suggestions that it doesn't matter whether the album is promoted or not are hilarious. If you genuinely think that the album getting reviewed in all the music magazines and leading newspapers along with magazine/TV interviews/articles won't make a major impact on sales potential you are stupid. |
| dudeofqueen 17.07.2013 07:30 |
Negative Creep, re: >If you genuinely think that the album getting reviewed in all the music magazines and leading newspapers along with magazine/TV interviews/articles won't make a major impact on sales potential you are stupid. Not at all. The budget for a RT solo project would be a few thousand quid at best; no one other than Queen fans will be interested in his work and the label will know that. The chances of him having a smash with ANYTHING are slim to none at best. They won't waste money on it. Sure, there'll be reviews in the music press, but I doubt very much that Roger will be hawking himself around in the knowledge that all anyone wants to talk to him about REALLY is Queen. Reviews will be no different to any other Queen side project and he'll get taken to task about his political views - same-old, same-old.........and with "Dear Mr. Murdoch" rearing its head again, there's a large section of the media he'll already be antagonising. |
| saj ditta 19.07.2013 14:24 |
didnt elton john release@remix album of about 8 tracks etc or something little wile bdack?from sum geezers?@few years further the solo double cd release was remixed to the max with awful mixes wata awful bunch that was its the same ol scandal ripp off again milking fans off.weaeee wating for r t,s/lbum for yunks that hasnt happund still even elton has one coming in september the fan clubs useless thers no QUEEN im not bothered bout j,deacon freddies gone bri/rog@management getting richer via the minute@loving it@there still feeding us s..t isnt that nice do they care?i doubt it.theres so much they can do@they dont.theyv been working on the so,called antholigies since the late 90s@no,one has a clue what on earth is going on have you?any kind of info tracks how they will be released like freddie boxset or like the beatles 123 any info no nothing atall how nice.@now this new collab album from nowere wether its a single album its prob the mj single its available on youtube anyway so thanks for nothing@heres to another few millions prequeen. |
| inu-liger 19.07.2013 16:05 |
Saj, can you please make a more solid attempt at making your posts actually readable, please? |
| rocknrolllover 20.07.2013 02:03 |
New album from Roger more worthy release this year than Rainbow, because looks like Rainbow as Hammy'75 only blah blah blah |
| inu-liger 20.07.2013 03:21 |
rocknrolllover wrote: New album from Roger more worthy release this year than Rainbow, because looks like Rainbow as Hammy'75 only blah blah blahDude, why have you been waiting indoors for something QPL clearly can't deliver because mother nature owns the real rights?? Btw you missed out on the release: link |
| rocknrolllover 20.07.2013 04:11 |
inu-liger wrote:What a silly goose you, inu!;-) mental war is over?rocknrolllover wrote: New album from Roger more worthy release this year than Rainbow, because looks like Rainbow as Hammy'75 only blah blah blahDude, why have you been waiting indoors for something QPL clearly can't deliver because mother nature owns the real rights?? Btw you missed out on the release: link |
| Pim Derks 20.07.2013 04:37 |
I just hope that if the damn RT album gets really released it'll be on vinyl! |
| people on streets 20.07.2013 13:10 |
me too. Limited edition vinyl would be even better. |
| tero! 48531 20.07.2013 13:34 |
people on streets wrote: me too. Limited edition vinyl would be even better.The entire customer base at this point is a few thousand people at the most, and they won't all want the vinyl version... Isn't that limited enough? |
| saj ditta 07.09.2013 17:53 |
I will sorry,my point was its the same ol story for the last 20 years@most of us have fallen for the scandal more than once I belive?theres hardly any new info on the antho,boxset that was in progress in the late midlate 90s not even via the fanclub wich is near the end.there Is plenty of tracks queen left out that should of been used on miheaven back in 95 but it just shows you who the true queen was?instead they gave us 20minuets of ambience crap of freddie jumping from cloud2cloud in the end of the cd watawaste.this new collabs album may feature mjack etc watabout cliff richard?was it ever rec in the studio?ifnot im sure with todays tech they can do something I dont wanna hear kerry ellis singing with freddie same il queen songs otherwise they can shove thier new release rite back up mr beach exciting newtimes for who? |
| saj ditta 07.09.2013 18:09 |
I will sorry,my point was its the same ol story for the last 20 years@most of us have fallen for the scandal more than once I belive?theres hardly any new info on the antho,boxset that was in progress in the late midlate 90s not even via the fanclub wich is near the end.there Is plenty of tracks queen left out that should of been used on miheaven back in 95 but it just shows you who the true queen was?instead they gave us 20minuets of ambience crap of freddie jumping from cloud2cloud in the end of the cd watawaste.this new collabs album may feature mjack etc watabout cliff richard?was it ever rec in the studio?ifnot im sure with todays tech they can do something I dont wanna hear kerry ellis singing with freddie same il queen songs otherwise they can shove thier new release rite back up mr beach exciting newtimes for who? |
| The Real Wizard 07.09.2013 21:08 |
saj ditta wrote: there Is plenty of tracks queen left out that should of been used on miheaven back in 95 but it just shows you who the true queen was?instead they gave us 20minuets of ambience crap of freddie jumping from cloud2cloud in the end of the cd^ assuming that was English... Can you perhaps entertain the possibility that new tapes may have been found that they didn't use back in 1995? Do you have any idea of how many old tapes must exist in their vaults, and perhaps other locations? If there are four *releasable* CDs of outtakes from two Freddie Mercury solo albums for his boxed set, then try to imagine how many Queen tapes are lying around from 14 albums. There were 30 songs demoed for The Miracle alone. Who says they went through everything in 1994-95, or that they wanted to / needed to ? Furthermore - it took them about 18 months to do those ten songs for Made In Heaven. Maybe you should start up a band, conquer the world, lose your frontman, and then assemble your old scraps together to make an album. Let's see if you're up to making 75 minutes of music of that quality. |
| Sebastian 08.09.2013 03:22 |
Just to be pedantic, you don't need to be able to achieve something better in order to criticise. Do we need to become political leaders and have a several-decade-long career in that field in order to say that certain prime ministers, presidents, etc., are corrupt? Maybe an extreme example, but you see my point. I personally find MIH to be excellent, and I really admire how Roger, John, Brian, Josh, Justin and David managed to transform a 91 seconds of a 'throwaway' spontaneous idea into nearly half an hour of material (because Track No 13 was reportedly generated from looping the opening sequence of IABD), and how they managed to stretch LML and YDMF into full-length tracks, not to mention what they did on the solo and Cross tracks, etc., but if anyone wants to call Track No 13 'twenty minutes of crap' (or whatever), it's their right to do so, and they don't need to start a band, conquer the world (something Queen didn't do, by the way) and lose the frontman. Equality and diversity! |
| The Real Wizard 08.09.2013 12:55 |
I didn't mean to imply that only musicians can criticize. I was trying to encourage this person to have some empathy and simply try to picture what the situation must have been like for the players involved. |
| on my way up 08.09.2013 13:55 |
Sebastian wrote: Just to be pedantic, you don't need to be able to achieve something better in order to criticise. Do we need to become political leaders and have a several-decade-long career in that field in order to say that certain prime ministers, presidents, etc., are corrupt? Maybe an extreme example, but you see my point. I personally find MIH to be excellent, and I really admire how Roger, John, Brian, Josh, Justin and David managed to transform a 91 seconds of a 'throwaway' spontaneous idea into nearly half an hour of material (because Track No 13 was reportedly generated from looping the opening sequence of IABD), and how they managed to stretch LML and YDMF into full-length tracks, not to mention what they did on the solo and Cross tracks, etc., but if anyone wants to call Track No 13 'twenty minutes of crap' (or whatever), it's their right to do so, and they don't need to start a band, conquer the world (something Queen didn't do, by the way) and lose the frontman. Equality and diversity!Queen didn't conquer the world?? Isn't becoming succesful in about every part of the world conquering the world? |
| brENsKi 08.09.2013 16:52 |
whole world???? China? - NO India & the Asian subcontinent? NO Huge chunks of the old Soviet Union? NO Most of the African continent? NO by my reckoning that's way over half of the world uncharted....so your "whole world" comment looks a little silly |
| joesilvey 08.09.2013 18:50 |
Greg Brooks has stated that unlike the catalog of recorded live material, Queen's studio archives is VAST. Alternate takes, demos, working versions (think about the finishedness of AKOM that Freddie then "reworked" apart from Roger into the album version)... let alone unfinished songs that HAVEN'T escaped the archives. I know what's been said about "scraps of Freddie material" worked on for the MIH album... but that was 1994-1995. Think about the advances is digital and computer technology since then. They could have been transferring freaking 2 inch tapes for the last 20 years and STILL not have found everything. Brian and Roger know of many things we fans don't... BUT they also forget things we fans KNOW ("It's A Hard Life has NEVER been performed live"...REALLY? 1984 tour?) I am nowhere in the realm of being an "inside" fan... I don't anything about the fanthology stuff... but I'm grateful to have a wealth of Queen rarities thanks to things like the Queen Hub and relationships with other fine folks here on this forum. But the FAN in me chooses to be hopeful, not cynical... and the older Roger and Brian get, I suspect or at least believe, that maybe they'll dig backward just a little to reconnect with their past glory and Freddie. Especially if new things have been found worthy of working on. One of my favorite GB quotes was from a Q&A where he said something to the effect of - the most surprising find in the archives to him was the wealth of material that Queen discarded. I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve thinking about that... |
| The Real Wizard 08.09.2013 21:36 |
brENsKi wrote: whole world???? China? - NO India & the Asian subcontinent? NO Huge chunks of the old Soviet Union? NO Most of the African continent? NO by my reckoning that's way over half of the world uncharted....so your "whole world" comment looks a little sillyOh dear lord. Now we've gotten pedantic. Europe, North America, Japan, South America, Australia - about as good as a band from the western world can do. Not that this was the point of my comment whatsoever .. |
| Sebastian 08.09.2013 22:09 |
brENsKi wrote:by my reckoning that's way over half of the world uncharted....so your "whole world" comment looks a little sillyExactly. America, Britain, Netherlands, Germany, Japan and a dozen or so more countries barely account for more than a small fraction of what the word 'world' actually means. Even if they did in fact sell about two hundred million records (an inflated figure, by the way), that still means that at the very least 97.18% of the world inhabitants have never bought a Queen record. So Queen: extraordinary musicians who released extraordinary albums and who achieved a lot of success in Britain, America, Canada, Netherlands, West Germany, Japan, Argentina and a dozen or so more countries. But conquering the world? No. Not even close. |
| Sebastian 08.09.2013 22:14 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Europe, North America, Japan, South America, Australia - about as good as a band from the western world can do.Even that is quite a stretch to say the least. There are around 47 nations in Europe, out of which Queen were massively popular in about half a dozen, and moderately successful in further ten, tops. They did sell very well in America, especially for a foreign band; also in Brazil and Argentina, especially for a non-Portuguese/Spanish speaking band; same in Japan. So yeah, great achievements, but no, they didn't actually 'conquer' the world. |
| Missreclusive 08.09.2013 22:50 |
lol...what a dumb argument. Worst is that I actually sat and read it. |
| tero! 48531 08.09.2013 23:27 |
Missreclusive wrote: lol...what a dumb argument. Worst is that I actually sat and read it.Nah... The worst part is that after reading it all, you then had to reply to it with another useless post. At the very least you could have made a lame joke out of it. :/ |
| AlexRocks 09.09.2013 00:09 |
Lol. |
| john bodega 09.09.2013 00:57 |
"that still means that at the very least 97.18% of the world inhabitants have never bought a Queen record" It might boil down to 97% of the world population, but you have to understand that you're referring to a chunk of humanity that really is just a pile of dumb shit. Amongst their various issues (being shitty, for one) they've never heard of Queen. Fuck 'em. |
| The Real Wizard 09.09.2013 15:32 |
Therefore the only successful artists ever are The Beatles, since any band who only sells to a pitiful 3% of the entire world's population obviously isn't successful. My mistake. |
| Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 10.09.2013 01:59 |
Defenition of world war is that large part of the world, with multiple continents is in state of war with each other. There was no war at the south american content, and only in a few countries in North Africa... still we talk about world war II Queen was succesfull : (singles, albums & tours and a afair amount of Airplay:) Europe North America South America Asia Australia Africa To me this is equal to WORLD WIDE succes. Of course Antartica is missing : it seems that a polar bear ate some copies of The Works witch were washed a shore overthere... The reason they didn't conquer large part of eastern Europe(Russia , communistic countries) and China and (middle east) Muslim area's is simply because their music was forbidden by goverment, religion etc.etc.!!!!!!! Hell if they toured Kabul , Freddie would have been executed for saying "Goood evening you afghan tarts, have some champaign for breakfast " Though they tried to conquer the Eastern Europe region with succes : they did a lot of effort to get to play a show ovverthere, Moscow was declined, but the Budapest went on. What do you think why they did : the concert itself was a financial loss, they knew that, but they learned from South America , that the album sales in that region will explode !! South America and the Budapest show is a perfect example of the generals of Queen fighting the battles on new grounds in their quest to conquer the world. And they did conquer the world ! |
| Sebastian 10.09.2013 11:33 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Therefore the only successful artists ever are The Beatles, since any band who only sells to a pitiful 3% of the entire world's population obviously isn't successful. My mistake.We're not defining successful, we're defining 'conquering the world' and 'being successful in every corner of the world'. There's a huge difference. Were Queen successful? Yes. Very. Did Queen conquer the world? No. Not even close. |
| inu-liger 10.09.2013 11:39 |
Can we get back on topic? :) |
| thomasquinn 32989 10.09.2013 12:20 |
Sebastian wrote:You're not defining anything. You're being anal for the sake of being anal. If you want to play that game, no musical act has ever conquered the world because none have actually overthrown governments and usurped power. That sounds like a really pathetic argument, and it is, but only marginally more so than what you wrote. Please, at least try to be a little reasonable. You know very well what is meant by the METAPHORICAL "conquering the world", i.e. being successful in a large number of countries on more than one continent. Don't play dumb just to be contrary.The Real Wizard wrote: Therefore the only successful artists ever are The Beatles, since any band who only sells to a pitiful 3% of the entire world's population obviously isn't successful. My mistake.We're not defining successful, we're defining 'conquering the world' and 'being successful in every corner of the world'. There's a huge difference. Were Queen successful? Yes. Very. Did Queen conquer the world? No. Not even close. |
| brENsKi 10.09.2013 12:20 |
no :-) |
| Sebastian 10.09.2013 13:33 |
It's not being anal, it's being insistent with terminology, which I still stand by. There's a difference between saying 'Roger Taylor's about 60' and 'Roger Taylor's about 300', or between 'Italy won a handful of world cups' and 'Italy won twenty world cups'. I'm not by any means denying they were successful on an international level. I'm arguing that they didn't actually conquer the world, and I don't mean it in a strictly literal military or political sense, I mean that by music business standards, they still did NOT conquer the world. They sold millions of records, achieved well-deserved fame and fortune and produced some classic hits that will most likely still be remembered for generations. But no, they didn't conquer the world. |
| Blaise Pascal 10.09.2013 13:58 |
However, all is quiet on the front of Roger ... |
| Negative Creep 10.09.2013 15:15 |
Everyone knows that Sebastian is Queenzone's very own Sheldon Cooper! |
| Gregsynth 10.09.2013 17:06 |
BAZINGA! |
| inu-liger 10.09.2013 17:29 |
OUCH. A devastating zinger! |
| AlexRocks 10.09.2013 18:51 |
I WANT TOUR DATES FOR ROGER TAYLOR'S WORLD TOUR!!! He better come to my neck of the woods! And make a motion picture out of it too! Oww! |
| Lord Gaga 10.09.2013 19:54 |
Good God, man, go take a walk or something. |
| inu-liger 10.09.2013 19:54 |
Keep dreaming my friend. Roger has already spoken out against any more big tours, he's no Elton John (who ironically himself has recently said he plans to scale back touring due to health issues and family) |
| saj ditta 23.09.2013 10:32 |
They should of used all these new songs inc(let me in)on made in heaven 1995 inc the other unheard stuff to be released would of made@true album it just shows how Freddie's input direction was is queen@not all money money money.it ain't queen no more it's a joke Xmas everyday loads@money like being back in the 80s. And please no more final days of Freddie's death his parties his cats his drugs@his cock feebie |
| inu-liger 23.09.2013 11:48 |
In proper grammatical English again, please ^ |
| MercurialFreddie 25.09.2013 12:04 |
Well, in the recent MOJO interview RT has stated that the MJ's Estate still hasn't done anything. They are slow as hell. It's nearly October and discs must be pressed, promotional campaign needs to be planned. If MJ's estate won't move its bloody arse then we might be getting the record on Easter 2014 ! |
| tero! 48531 25.09.2013 12:59 |
mondeo112 wrote: Well, in the recent MOJO interview RT has stated that the MJ's Estate still hasn't done anything. They are slow as hell. It's nearly October and discs must be pressed, promotional campaign needs to be planned. If MJ's estate won't move its bloody arse then we might be getting the record on Easter 2014 !That's sarcasm, right? You wouldn't seriously complain about a six month delay due to MJ's estate, when QP has been holding back finished concert videos of their own for years. |
| MercurialFreddie 25.09.2013 13:04 |
Yeah, looking at that in the context of QP release policy my post seems to be sarcastic. Tero, hands down :) ! |
| saj ditta 02.12.2013 16:06 |
Why have bri-roger brought in (William orbit)in are they having trouble with something reg (unreleased queen tracks)?plus is it possible that maybe they can somehow revive with(William orbit)the live stage musical (it's in everyone of us) freddie-cliff Richard would make a wonderfull track cd single or on a future album?/overall what I'm saying is what's w,orbits purpose in (queen)at the moment and why do brian roger need so badly?is he just working on the mj tracks that's all or other queen stuff?plus if all the duets freddie did with rod Stewart andy Gibbs etc feature on the new final queen album to be?will brian roger-Jim beach allow so much royalties from the sales to 3rd parties if you know what I mean?they are a greedy bunch(queen organisation) |
| saj ditta 02.12.2013 16:20 |
Was (it's in everyone of us)ever recorded in the studio freddie and cliff for (time)musical anyone?why didn't the band delve into these tracks back in 1994-5?just few other things there's many tracks like sandbox etc from early 71-even73 to self made man will they use them and will it make sense having Freddie's voice change on a album from 70s to 80s overall I just hope it's better than mih and they use most tracks that are on youtube and unheard hope they doit rite no ambience crap of freddie going to heaven drinking champagne |
| Vocal harmony 03.12.2013 11:23 |
saj ditta, what is wrong with William Obit working as the producer on the knew Queen album. That's what he does and he's very good at his job. Through the years they've used a number of different people in the studio. I don't quite understand why you've singled William Orbit out as being a problem |
