QueenZone discussion #1349641

TRACKLISTING DISC ONE: OPENING ACTS 1) Intro 2) Brian May / Roger Taylor / John Deacon Introduction 3) Metallica Enter Sandman 4) Metallica Sad But True 5) Metallica Nothing Else Matters 6) Freddie Montage (Insert) 7) Extreme Queen Medley 8) Freddie Montage (Insert) 9) Def Leppard & Brian May Now I m Here 10) Queen I m Going Slightly Mad video (Insert) 11) Bob Geldof Too Late God 12) Guns n Roses Paradise City 13) Guns n Roses Knocking On Heavens Door 14) Elizabeth Taylor Speech

DISC TWO: MAIN QUEEN SET 1) Joe Elliot, Slash & Queen Tie Your Mother Down 2) Roger Daltrey, Tony Iommi & Queen I Want It All 3) Zucchero & Queen Las Palabras De Amor 4) Gary Cherone, Tony Iommi & Queen Hammer To Fall 5) James Hetfield, Tony Iommi & Queen Stone Cold Crazy 6) Robert Plant & Queen Crazy Little Thing Called Love 7) Brian May Too Much Love Will Kill You 8) Paul Young & Queen Radio Ga Ga 9) Seal & Queen Who Wants To Live Forever 10) Lisa Stansfield & Queen I Want To Break Free 11) David Bowie, Annie Lennox & Queen Under Pressure 12) Ian Hunter, David Bowie, Mick Ronson & Queen All The Young Dudes 13) David Bowie, Mick Ronson & Queen Heroes 14) George Michael & Queen Year Of 39 15) George Michael, Lisa Stansfield & Queen These Are The Days Of Our Lives 16) George Michael, London Gospel Choir & Queen Somebody To Love 17) Elton John, Axl Rose & Queen Bohemian Rhapsody 18) Elton John, Tony Iommi & Queen The Show Must Go On 19) Axl Rose & Queen We Will Rock You 20) Liza Minelli & Ensemble We Are The Champions

queenpoland wrote: link This is not what we expected... again

master marathon runner wrote: why no Extreme I wonder?

pittrek wrote: Real setlist : 1) Queen & Joe Elliot & Slash - Tie Your Mother Down 2) Queen & Tony Iommi - Heaven And Hell & Pinball Wizard intros - MAYBE MISSING ? << Highly doubt these would be cut, they were just never credited on the tracklistings for any of the official releases 3) Queen & Zucchero - Las Pallabras De Amor 4) Queen & Tony Iommi & Gary Cherone - Hammer To Fall 5) Queen & Tony Iommi & James Hettfield - Stone Cold Crazy 6) Queen & Robert Plant - Innuendo/Kashmir - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 7) Queen & Robert Plant - Thank You - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE << See above 8) Queen & Robert Plant - Crazy Little Thing Called Love 9) Brian May & Spike Edney - Too Much Love Will Kill You 10) Queen & Paul Young - Radio Ga Ga 11) Queen & Seal - Who Wants To Live Forever 12) Queen & Lisa Stansfield - I Want To Break Free 13) Queen & David Bowie & Annie Lennox - Under Pressure 14) Queen & David Bowie & Ian Hunter & Mick Ronson & Joe Elliot & Phil Collen - All The Young Dudes 15) Queen & David Bowie & Mick Ronson - Heroes 16) David Bowie - The Lord's Prayer - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ? << Again, see above 17) Queen & George Michael - '39 18) Queen & George Michael & Lisa Stansfield - These Are The Days Of OUr Lives 19) Queen & George Michael & the choir - Somebody To Love 20) Queen & Elton John & Axl Rose - Bohemian Rhapsody 21) Queen & Elton John & Tony Iommi - The Show Must Go On 22) Queen & Axl Rose - We Will Rock You 23) Queen & Liza Minnelli & All Stars - We Are The Champions 24) God Save The Queen outro + fireworks - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ??? << Warp ludicrous speed ;) Anyway, it's MUCH MORE COMPLETE than the DVD and probably also than the VHS (I don't remember the tracklist on the VHS right now) << My guess is that this is going to be a digital replication of the double VHS/laserdisc releases, so again I'm doubting they're gonna add more than what the original releases had.

inu-liger wrote:

pittrek wrote: Anyway, it's MUCH MORE COMPLETE than the DVD and probably also than the VHS (I don't remember the tracklist on the VHS right now) << My guess is that this is going to be a digital replication of the double VHS/laserdisc releases, so again I'm doubting they're gonna add more than what the original releases had.

pittrek wrote: I absolutely understand why they don't want this shit to be released : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twlc9GzWL8c Plant sucked almost as much as he did on Live Aid

The Kurgan wrote: The PAL laserdisc is 207 minutes http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3152/vv0k.jpg The NTSC laserdisc is 175 minutes http://bimg1.mlstatic.com/laser-disc-the-freddie-mercury-tribute-concert_MLB-F-196836509_65.jpg Do they contain anything this blu-ray release wont have?

pittrek wrote:

TRACKLISTING DISC ONE: OPENING ACTS 1) Intro 2) Brian May / Roger Taylor / John Deacon Introduction 3) Metallica Enter Sandman 4) Metallica Sad But True 5) Metallica Nothing Else Matters 6) Freddie Montage (Insert) 7) Extreme Queen Medley 8) Freddie Montage (Insert) 9) Def Leppard & Brian May Now I m Here 10) Queen I m Going Slightly Mad video (Insert) 11) Bob Geldof Too Late God 12) Guns n Roses Paradise City 13) Guns n Roses Knocking On Heavens Door 14) Elizabeth Taylor Speech

Well, originally they played 1) Bohemian Rhapsody taped intro 2) Brian + Roger + John introducing Metallica 3) Metallica - Enter Sandman 4) Metallica - Sad But True 5) Metallica - Nothing Else Matters 6) Freddie insert 1 7) Extreme - Queen medley 8) Extreme - More Than Words and Love Of My Life 9) Freddie insert 2 10) Def Leppard - Animal - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 11) Def Leppard - Let's Get Rocked - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 12) Def Leppard & Brian May 13) Insert 14) Bob Geldolf and The Happy Club - Too Late God 15) Spinal Tap - The Majesty of Rock - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 16) U2 - Until The End Of The World - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 17) Guns'n'Roses - Paradise City 18) Guns'n'roses - Only Women Bleed - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ? 19) Guns'n'Roses - Knocking on Heaven's Door 20) Mango Groove - Special Star - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 21) Sir Ian McKellen speech - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 22) Elizabeth Taylor speech

DISC TWO: MAIN QUEEN SET 1) Joe Elliot, Slash & Queen Tie Your Mother Down 2) Roger Daltrey, Tony Iommi & Queen I Want It All 3) Zucchero & Queen Las Palabras De Amor 4) Gary Cherone, Tony Iommi & Queen Hammer To Fall 5) James Hetfield, Tony Iommi & Queen Stone Cold Crazy 6) Robert Plant & Queen Crazy Little Thing Called Love 7) Brian May Too Much Love Will Kill You 8) Paul Young & Queen Radio Ga Ga 9) Seal & Queen Who Wants To Live Forever 10) Lisa Stansfield & Queen I Want To Break Free 11) David Bowie, Annie Lennox & Queen Under Pressure 12) Ian Hunter, David Bowie, Mick Ronson & Queen All The Young Dudes 13) David Bowie, Mick Ronson & Queen Heroes 14) George Michael & Queen Year Of 39 15) George Michael, Lisa Stansfield & Queen These Are The Days Of Our Lives 16) George Michael, London Gospel Choir & Queen Somebody To Love 17) Elton John, Axl Rose & Queen Bohemian Rhapsody 18) Elton John, Tony Iommi & Queen The Show Must Go On 19) Axl Rose & Queen We Will Rock You 20) Liza Minelli & Ensemble We Are The Champions

Real setlist : 1) Queen & Joe Elliot & Slash - Tie Your Mother Down 2) Queen & Tony Iommi - Heaven And Hell & Pinball Wizard intros - MAYBE MISSING ? 3) Queen & Zucchero - Las Pallabras De Amor 4) Queen & Tony Iommi & Gary Cherone - Hammer To Fall 5) Queen & Tony Iommi & James Hettfield - Stone Cold Crazy 6) Queen & Robert Plant - Innuendo/Kashmir - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 7) Queen & Robert Plant - Thank You - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 8) Queen & Robert Plant - Crazy Little Thing Called Love 9) Brian May & Spike Edney - Too Much Love Will Kill You 10) Queen & Paul Young - Radio Ga Ga 11) Queen & Seal - Who Wants To Live Forever 12) Queen & Lisa Stansfield - I Want To Break Free 13) Queen & David Bowie & Annie Lennox - Under Pressure 14) Queen & David Bowie & Ian Hunter & Mick Ronson & Joe Elliot & Phil Collen - All The Young Dudes 15) Queen & David Bowie & Mick Ronson - Heroes 16) David Bowie - The Lord's Prayer - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ? 17) Queen & George Michael - '39 18) Queen & George Michael & Lisa Stansfield - These Are The Days Of OUr Lives 19) Queen & George Michael & the choir - Somebody To Love 20) Queen & Elton John & Axl Rose - Bohemian Rhapsody 21) Queen & Elton John & Tony Iommi - The Show Must Go On 22) Queen & Axl Rose - We Will Rock You 23) Queen & Liza Minnelli & All Stars - We Are The Champions 24) God Save The Queen outro + fireworks - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ??? Anyway, it's MUCH MORE COMPLETE than the DVD and probably also than the VHS (I don't remember the tracklist on the VHS right now)

pittrek wrote: Well, originally they played 8) Extreme - More Than Words 9) Freddie insert 2 10) Def Leppard - Animal - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 11) Def Leppard - Let's Get Rocked - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 12) Def Leppard & Brian May 13) Insert 14) Bob Geldolf and The Happy Club - Too Late God 15) Spinal Tap - The Majesty of Rock - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 16) U2 - Until The End Of The World - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 17) Guns'n'Roses - Paradise City 18) Guns'n'roses - Only Women Bleed - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ? 19) Guns'n'Roses - Knocking on Heaven's Door 20) Mango Groove - Special Star - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 21) Sir Ian McKellen speech - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 22) Elizabeth Taylor speech

pittrek wrote: Real setlist : 1) Queen & Joe Elliot & Slash - Tie Your Mother Down 2) Queen & Tony Iommi - Heaven And Hell & Pinball Wizard intros - MAYBE MISSING ? 3) Queen & Zucchero - Las Pallabras De Amor 4) Queen & Tony Iommi & Gary Cherone - Hammer To Fall 5) Queen & Tony Iommi & James Hettfield - Stone Cold Crazy 6) Queen & Robert Plant - Innuendo/Kashmir - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 7) Queen & Robert Plant - Thank You - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE 8) Queen & Robert Plant - Crazy Little Thing Called Love 9) Brian May & Spike Edney - Too Much Love Will Kill You 10) Queen & Paul Young - Radio Ga Ga 11) Queen & Seal - Who Wants To Live Forever 12) Queen & Lisa Stansfield - I Want To Break Free 13) Queen & David Bowie & Annie Lennox - Under Pressure 14) Queen & David Bowie & Ian Hunter & Mick Ronson & Joe Elliot & Phil Collen - All The Young Dudes 15) Queen & David Bowie & Mick Ronson - Heroes 16) David Bowie - The Lord's Prayer - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ? 17) Queen & George Michael - '39 18) Queen & George Michael & Lisa Stansfield - These Are The Days Of OUr Lives 19) Queen & George Michael & the choir - Somebody To Love 20) Queen & Elton John & Axl Rose - Bohemian Rhapsody 21) Queen & Elton John & Tony Iommi - The Show Must Go On 22) Queen & Axl Rose - We Will Rock You 23) Queen & Liza Minnelli & All Stars - We Are The Champions 24) God Save The Queen outro + fireworks - MISSING ON THIS RELEASE ??? Anyway, it's MUCH MORE COMPLETE than the DVD and probably also than the VHS (I don't remember the tracklist on the VHS right now)

cmsdrums wrote: The Blu Ray info lists the audio as DTS HD Master in 7.1 surround. Does this intimate that they HAVE done a new mix of the audio, or is this just a trick they can pull using some software on the original (awful) stereo mix, like they do now to create their '5.1' mixes on Wembley etc.??

Mr.QueenFan wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: The Blu Ray info lists the audio as DTS HD Master in 7.1 surround. Does this intimate that they HAVE done a new mix of the audio, or is this just a trick they can pull using some software on the original (awful) stereo mix, like they do now to create their '5.1' mixes on Wembley etc.??

I'm talking from memory here, but i believe that the Wembley 25 years edition contains real 5.1 mix, since they were able to find the multitracks somewhere in L.A. I don't know about the 7.1 surround thing, but if the band have the tapes i don't see why they would "cheat" the sound. In the Wembley 2003 it was the best they could do at the time, because they couldn't find the original tapes.

Marknow wrote:

pittrek wrote: I absolutely understand why they don't want this shit to be released : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twlc9GzWL8c Plant sucked almost as much as he did on Live Aid

I honestly believe this is the exact moment in time where John thought "fuck this, I'm retiring"

inu-liger wrote:

Mr.QueenFan wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: The Blu Ray info lists the audio as DTS HD Master in 7.1 surround. Does this intimate that they HAVE done a new mix of the audio, or is this just a trick they can pull using some software on the original (awful) stereo mix, like they do now to create their '5.1' mixes on Wembley etc.??

I'm talking from memory here, but i believe that the Wembley 25 years edition contains real 5.1 mix, since they were able to find the multitracks somewhere in L.A. I don't know about the 7.1 surround thing, but if the band have the tapes i don't see why they would "cheat" the sound. In the Wembley 2003 it was the best they could do at the time, because they couldn't find the original tapes.

It wasn't the multitracks they were missing (QPL had them all along, but were too lazy to re-mix it properly from scratch - especially if they may or may not have the overdub stems available!), it was the analogue stereo mix reel tape from Brian Malouf's 1991/92 mix of the show that was missing until a few years ago. The 2003 DVD and CD "remaster" used the 1992 CD digital masters. The reason they made a big deal about the analogue stereo master being found was because, with regards to syncing the audio to the video, it's more preferable to use an analogue master which can be transferred in high resolution as opposed to using a digital copy previously rendered in 44.1kHz/16-bit that could introduce minor artifacts when shifting the playback rate or timing in order to ensure it syncs to the video as close to 100% as possible - although most average joes probably won't notice the artifacts immediately. The Friday night show however was mixed from scratch since that show was originally never intended for commercial release. But in typical baffling QPL fashion, the final stereo mix for that show was also up-mixed to 5.1 - which just highlights further the typical laziness with QPL.

Zebonka12 wrote: If only he'd been able to shake whatever-the-fuck-it-was that was bothering him, and turned out something like this instead. link

The Kurgan wrote: I pre-ordered the blu-ray at £7.99 link

MackMantilla wrote: I don't understand why they didn't include the other Extreme / Deff Leppard / Spinal Tab / U2 tracks. Maybe they plan to re-release this BD in a more complete form within some years??

KevoM wrote: Updscaled sd! What's the point of that whe TVs and DVD players have been able to do that for years?! Still not much of an improvement from SD.

Walter B. wrote: Trailer: http://youtu.be/KDEcUtdtld8

Chief Mouse wrote: I don't get why this had to be Blu-Ray. It would look about the same on a DVD. At least they didn't crop it to 16:9 :P

pittrek wrote: Is this the worst trailer ever? Also absolutely NO upgrade in video quality ... At least it's not cropped to 16:9. However I'm afraid it will AGAIN be NTSC :-(

pittrek wrote: The old VHS versions. The ONLY improvement I noticed is the higher bitrate (and no "ghosting" of course)

pittrek wrote: Yes, it looks better than the VHS & DVD releases, but not as good as I hoped it would. Hope it makes sense :-)

pittrek wrote: Yes, it looks better than the VHS & DVD releases, but not as good as I hoped it would. Hope it makes sense :-)

Negative Creep wrote:

Chief Mouse wrote: I don't get why this had to be Blu-Ray. It would look about the same on a DVD. At least they didn't crop it to 16:9 :P

You don't have to buy it on blu ray - it's also on 3 DVD. Surely having everything on one disc is better though. Also, if done properly (and not just the lossy DVD files dumped on to blu ray) it WILL look better than the the DVD as footage is drastically compressed to fit on DVD. There is no such thing as "DVD quality", although most DVDs are much lower quality than the originally mastered digital files in the race to fit as much shit on a single DVD as possible. So called "standard definition" video is still higher definition than what a compressed DVD can offer.

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pittrek wrote: Yes, it looks better than the VHS & DVD releases, but not as good as I hoped it would. Hope it makes sense :-)

So it is an upgrade after all? ; )

Toozeup wrote: Got mine today. I've only checked the stereo mixes. The first halve of the show is a new mix of course and it sounds great. The Queen portion is the same mix as the previous release. The difference between the two is quite noticeable.

Michael Allred wrote: seems as if the US release has been postponed until September 10th.

inu-liger wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: seems as if the US release has been postponed until September 10th.

Ditto with Canada link

Toozeup wrote: Got mine today. I've only checked the stereo mixes. The first halve of the show is a new mix of course and it sounds great. The Queen portion is the same mix as the previous release. The difference between the two is quite noticeable.

The Kurgan wrote: Just to confirm it is 1080i NTSC. I still got top billing in the credits at the end the Fan photo galley : )

GinjaNinja wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: Just to confirm it is 1080i NTSC. I still got top billing in the credits at the end the Fan photo galley : )

I wish they wouldn't keep releasing PAL originated footage in only NTSC format. :(

KevoM wrote: Is it original 4:3 OAR or have they butchered, twisted, stretched and distorted it to 16:9 like they have done in the past.

Eagle Rock Entertainment wrote: Hi Richard, Thank you for your email. Due to North America clearance issues, the product is delayed. At this time we have no further update. As soon as we know more regarding the new release date we post it on official channels.

Michael Allred wrote: what Inu said, is the UK Blu-Ray NTSC and region free?

Michael Allred wrote: I should have remembered, NTSC/PAL has no bearing on Blu-Ray

Michael Allred wrote: I looked myself and yes, the official Queen store does clearly state it's region free.

inu-liger wrote: I've seen reviews for region free import releases on Blu-ray.com (specifically releases with the main feature encoded in 24p HD) that stated bonus feature materials encoded in PAL resolution (SD or HD) would not play on most to all North American BD players.

The Kurgan wrote:

inu-liger wrote: I've seen reviews for region free import releases on Blu-ray.com (specifically releases with the main feature encoded in 24p HD) that stated bonus feature materials encoded in PAL resolution (SD or HD) would not play on most to all North American BD players.

LOL! So most North American BD players are incapable of switching from 24p to 50Hz material? My UK (Region B) BD player has no problem playing 24p discs with 60Hz bonus material, for example 'Back To The Future' & 'The Big Lebowski'. As expected, it also plays 24p discs with 50Hz bonus material such as 'Flash Gordon' and 'Highlander'.

pittrek wrote: All of the DVDs and Blurays done by the new record company are NTSC and they're not region encoded. Unfortunately they're all HDCP-protected (which should be illegal :-( )

The Kurgan wrote:

pittrek wrote: All of the DVDs and Blurays done by the new record company are NTSC and they're not region encoded. Unfortunately they're all HDCP-protected (which should be illegal :-( )

Montreal and Budapest are 24p so are neither PAL or NTSC. Of course it might convert to 60hz if your tv or monitor does not support 24p.

inu-liger wrote:

The Kurgan wrote:

inu-liger wrote: I've seen reviews for region free import releases on Blu-ray.com (specifically releases with the main feature encoded in 24p HD) that stated bonus feature materials encoded in PAL resolution (SD or HD) would not play on most to all North American BD players.

LOL! So most North American BD players are incapable of switching from 24p to 50Hz material? My UK (Region B) BD player has no problem playing 24p discs with 60Hz bonus material, for example 'Back To The Future' & 'The Big Lebowski'. As expected, it also plays 24p discs with 50Hz bonus material such as 'Flash Gordon' and 'Highlander'.

Unfortunately for us in North America, assbackwardness still reigns supreme with the content producers and hardware manufacturers :-(

Michael Allred wrote: I should have remembered, NTSC/PAL has no bearing on Blu-Ray

inu-liger wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: I should have remembered, NTSC/PAL has no bearing on Blu-Ray

Actually, it still does, believe it or not. I've seen reviews for region free import releases on Blu-ray.com (specifically releases with the main feature encoded in 24p HD) that stated bonus feature materials encoded in PAL resolution (SD or HD) would not play on most to all North American BD players.

Doga wrote: Somebody To Love uploaded by Eaglerock link Looks impressive, they work with the image to make it looks like film instead videotape, i foresee Live at Wembley getting the same treatment