Nick Browning 09.06.2013 19:29 |
eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock. |
Kevinrm15 09.06.2013 21:25 |
Where the hell do you get all this? |
inu-liger 09.06.2013 21:38 |
I hope this is not a prank |
Nick Browning 09.06.2013 23:18 |
inu-liger wrote: I hope this is not a prankNo its not |
GT 09.06.2013 23:39 |
This is not true - Earl's Court is not on the agenda. |
tomchristie22 09.06.2013 23:47 |
Thought so - this doesn't exactly look like a 'remaster', more so two screenshots from different points in the show, the one on the right from a slightly less degraded source. |
dowens 09.06.2013 23:52 |
What's on the agenda GT? :) |
liam 10.06.2013 00:07 |
Well it bloody should be. Just release the best of the 70's concerts God damn you!!!! |
john bodega 10.06.2013 00:31 |
I reckon absolutely no one on the QP payroll should get a fucking dime until we have some 70's stuff on shelves. You guys have been on the teat long enough! What the hell is going on in your offices/archives? The longest paper-plane-building contest in human history? Scrub that. They're probably all folding envelopes for a massive Save Me mailout. Don't bother - I'm eating badger for dinner tonight, so fuck 'em. |
rocknrolllover 10.06.2013 00:42 |
Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock.Hmm! Need more info, please |
pittrek 10.06.2013 00:42 |
Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock."Original" is not an original, it is an amateur transfer of an illegal high generation VHS copy |
pittrek 10.06.2013 00:44 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock.Hmm! Need more info, please GT wrote: This is not true - Earl's Court is not on the agenda. |
rocknrolllover 10.06.2013 00:46 |
GT&GB so many blah blah blah! I don't believe you men |
Cruella de Vil 10.06.2013 01:08 |
Wait in line for the 'impending, upcoming' 5:1 mix of Hammersmith '75, 'the Rainbow Project' to come first. But I suppose that we will also have to wait for 'ICON-the video collection' before that! Dreamer's Ball any one, or just More of that Jazz! Hmmph! |
pittrek 10.06.2013 01:22 |
CruellaDeVille wrote: Wait in line for the 'impending, upcoming' 5:1 mix of Hammersmith '75, 'the Rainbow Project' to come first. But I suppose that we will also have to wait for 'ICON-the video collection' before that! Dreamer's Ball any one, or just More of that Jazz! Hmmph!You forgot Queen's second EP, the BBC sessions box set, the 1999 album with guest vocalists, the Queen + Robbie Williams album, the 46664 studio album, the anthologies box sets ... :-) |
kruh 10.06.2013 01:40 |
Lies. Lies and more lies! |
Nick Browning 10.06.2013 02:35 |
GT wrote: This is not true - Earl's Court is not on the agenda.i said "maybe" not it's gonna be released, its just something that kinda got me curious that's all |
Nick Browning 10.06.2013 02:38 |
pittrek wrote:sorry if i badly word things but i'm talking about the picture that's all ;) _____________________________________________Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock."Original" is not an original, it is an amateur transfer of an illegal high generation VHS copy "It's Better To Burn Than To Fad Away.....There Can be Only One" |
rocknrolllover 10.06.2013 02:42 |
I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped! |
Nick Browning 10.06.2013 02:46 |
rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!i wasn't saying it was real, i was just curious with it |
rocknrolllover 10.06.2013 02:51 |
Nick Browning wrote:Well as always !rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!i wasn't saying it was real, i was just curious with it But from where you know that eagle rock "maybe" gonna do it? |
Nick Browning 10.06.2013 03:22 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Well as always ! But from where you know that eagle rock "maybe" gonna do it? I saw it in the great pretender because eagle rock were part of the documentaryNick Browning wrote:rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!i wasn't saying it was real, i was just curious with it |
rocknrolllover 10.06.2013 03:42 |
Nick Browning wrote:I saw it in the great pretender because eagle rock were part of the documentary Well, let's suppose you watched in Freddie Mercury The Great Pretender documentary short fragment from Earls Court gig, but it doesn't mean that Eagle Rock gonna do it!rocknrolllover wrote:Well as always ! But from where you know that eagle rock "maybe" gonna do it?Nick Browning wrote:rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!i wasn't saying it was real, i was just curious with it With the same success every short fragment of 70's gigs which flashed into Queen documentaries by Eagle Rock! A Night T The Opera 30th anniversary DVD documentary: there were short fragments from earls court, Hyde park and Rainbow. Days of our lives documentary: earls court again, Hyde park. By the way Live at the Rainbow in the pipeline |
dave76 10.06.2013 04:13 |
That's not on the agenda. No of course, why should they. I think they would rather release a absolute greatest vol. 2 instead. |
dave76 10.06.2013 04:19 |
I don't think they will stop releasing these kinds of compilations. They will go on and on and this is the way to lose the fans who have stuck by them the last 40 years. And this is what we get. Year after year. Instead of the 70's live shows, rarities audio or some good packaged anniversary edition. A lot of people have already given up on Queen and i don't think Roger, Brian or Jim would read our pleedings people. |
Togg 10.06.2013 04:37 |
Hi GT
Can you elaborate on why 70's material is never on the agenda? why don't they want to release stuff like this? surely both Brian and Roger and Jim are aware the fans would love it? so what are the issues here?
Togg
GT wrote: This is not true - Earl's Court is not on the agenda. |
Hangman_96 10.06.2013 04:57 |
Damn! You got my hopes up. And all is left to do for me now is be let down by something like "it's not on the agenda". |
john bodega 10.06.2013 05:42 |
"so what are the issues here?" Brian May doesn't want us to hear gigs that haven't had fixes done to them. |
Hangman_96 10.06.2013 05:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "so what are the issues here?" Brian May doesn't want us to hear gigs that haven't had fixes done to them.That's a good point. |
Togg 10.06.2013 06:28 |
Ok so say that's the reason, why not fix them? fans have been crying out for these for decades so why not just do it and be done with it?
Zebonka12 wrote: "so what are the issues here?" Brian May doesn't want us to hear gigs that haven't had fixes done to them. |
Hangman_96 10.06.2013 06:34 |
Togg wrote: Ok so say that's the reason, why not fix them? fans have been crying out for these for decades so why not just do it and be done with it?We've all asked the same questions a billion times before, but it definitely hasn't made them release a single concert yet. How can your advice help us? |
Togg 10.06.2013 08:15 |
I'm not offering advice, I'm asking the question to GT I am aware it's been asked before but i have never seen a reply from an official source. There has to be a genuine reason, either a business case or creative issue, I don't understand why it's so difficult to answer? if it's a no it will never happen, fine, but why?? |
rocknrolllover 10.06.2013 08:22 |
Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock.Frankly, the quality of remaster not so good. |
Kevinrm15 10.06.2013 08:32 |
This is what Rhys Thomas has said about Earls Court: "Earls Court exists but the sound needs a lot of work for a surround sound mix. Picture wise it's good, but only a mixing tape -ie. no rushes like Wembley for example." |
rocknrolllover 10.06.2013 08:34 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: This is what Rhys Thomas has said about Earls Court: "Earls Court exists but the sound needs a lot of work for a surround sound mix. Picture wise it's good, but only a mixing tape -ie. no rushes like Wembley for example."Yeah I remember it, man. I hope 2014 we will see EC 1977 with Houston 1977 |
Hangman_96 10.06.2013 09:00 |
Togg wrote: I'm not offering advice, I'm asking the question to GT I am aware it's been asked before but i have never seen a reply from an official source. There has to be a genuine reason, either a business case or creative issue, I don't understand why it's so difficult to answer? if it's a no it will never happen, fine, but why??Sorry dude, I got it wrong. And yeah, many people have tried to ask it before but no proper answer has been given to date yet. But hey, let's live in hope, huh? I think there could be a few reasons why it might never happen, but knowing the people of this website I don't feel generally fine revealing these reasons because it may lead to some unforeseen consequences. |
Doga 10.06.2013 09:06 |
The pictures are obiously a fake. Of course EC would be a dream, if it needs overdubs in the first songs, overdub the thing, damm it! When the true release the EC gigs in great quality comes, i'll fangirl, i'll fangirl a lot. |
Rick 10.06.2013 09:13 |
EC doesn't deserve a release. Well, the second night maybe (if it's really complete). The first show is not that great. Overrated. The highlight for me is the RnR-medley. Also, some pretty weird camera-angles. Hyde Park 1976 does. It's a historic concert for Queen. Interesting setlist. Great camerawork. A big ass crowd. The bootleg video is terrible, though. But what has been officially released of the concert looks and sounds stellar. Release the complete gig, with the helicopter footage, interviews from 1975-1976 and I'm a happy fan. Keep on dreaming, I guess. |
Hangman_96 10.06.2013 09:19 |
Rick wrote: EC doesn't deserve a release. Well, the second night maybe (if it's really complete). The first show is not that great. Overrated. The highlight for me is the RnR-medley. Also, some pretty weird camera-angles. Hyde Park 1976 does. It's a historic concert for Queen. Interesting setlist. Great camerawork. A big ass crowd. The bootleg video is terrible, though. But what has been officially released of the concert looks and sounds stellar. Release the complete gig, with the helicopter footage, interviews from 1975-1976 and I'm a happy fan. Keep on dreaming, I guess.Whatever they've got in store for us, Rainbow seems the closest thing we might be getting sometime soon. But your post about Hyde Park is a good one. Wish it would be released after Rainbow. |
Lord Gaga 10.06.2013 09:43 |
Rick wrote: EC doesn't deserve a release. Well, the second night maybe (if it's really complete). The first show is not that great. Overrated. The highlight for me is the RnR-medley. Also, some pretty weird camera-angles. Hyde Park 1976 does. It's a historic concert for Queen. Interesting setlist. Great camerawork. A big ass crowd. The bootleg video is terrible, though. But what has been officially released of the concert looks and sounds stellar. Release the complete gig, with the helicopter footage, interviews from 1975-1976 and I'm a happy fan. Keep on dreaming, I guess.I agree wholeheartedly. But I've become disenchanted with this group that we'll ever see anything fully interesting; oh sure, we've got the ballads comp with a "new track" coming out this year, and the Rainbow show is an eventuality, but we've been burned so often in the past – as pittrek said, "You forgot Queen's second EP, the BBC sessions box set, the 1999 album with guest vocalists, the Queen + Robbie Williams album, the 46664 studio album, the anthologies box sets ... :-)" – that I just expect nothing anymore. I can't get myself excited enough even about the Rainbow show to care that much, because Roger or Brian might wake up one day and decide to go out on tour with the latest flash-in-the-pan, which justifies, in their minds, the postponement of a really interesting product. It's a strange way to operate a business, and while I understand their logic for not issuing the anthologies (even if I don't agree with it), there are still musicians who have released archive sets while still putting out new material – Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, and Elvis Costello are four I can think of off the top of my head. So these occasional visits by Greg Brooks (and more worthwhile ones from GT, who seems much more level-headed all around) telling us what's in the archives are increasingly becoming less like "Here's what's gonna be on the anthologies!" than they are "Here's what you're never gonna hear/see!" And I can't blame them either, because they're fans, just like we are, and want this material out too, but QPL are going the least-common denominator route and issuing compilation after compilation, with the occasional Magic Tour show thrown in for good measure. Pass. I'm ready to give my money to a band/musician who's willing to give me something that I want. |
Vali 10.06.2013 10:04 |
Lord Gaga wrote: So these occasional visits by Greg Brooks (and more worthwhile ones from GT, who seems much more level-headed all around) telling us what's in the archives are increasingly becoming less like "Here's what's gonna be on the anthologies!" than they are "Here's what you're never gonna hear/see!" (...) Pass. I'm ready to give my money to a band/musician who's willing to give me something that I want.E.X.A.C.T.L.Y how I feel |
dysan 10.06.2013 10:30 |
The biggest disappointment is that Rhys chap saying it's no good for 5.1 sound. So what? The Rainbow show is just boring now, same with Hammersmith '75. You know when a pal holds a sweetie out for you and keeps snatching it back at the last minute and chuckling? Suddenly you don't want the sweetie and you think your friend is a bit of a c-nt? And it's not like you've never had a mars bar before. Sadly, I do honestly think the last good Queen DVDs I've ever bought were in Camden Market in about 1998. |
GinjaNinja 10.06.2013 11:29 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: This is what Rhys Thomas has said about Earls Court: "Earls Court exists but the sound needs a lot of work for a surround sound mix. Picture wise it's good, but only a mixing tape -ie. no rushes like Wembley for example."They rarely even give us proper surround mix anyway, it's usually an upmix from stereo. And they didn't have any rushes for Budapest, Montreal or Milton Keynes, so neither of these is an excuse not to release it. As many 70's concerts on the agenda as possible please! |
dysan 10.06.2013 11:36 |
I'd be happy with Rare Live / Magic Years on a 2 DVD set if anything. At least they're interesting period pieces. |
pittrek 10.06.2013 12:34 |
dysan wrote: I'd be happy with Rare Live / Magic Years on a 2 DVD set if anything. At least they're interesting period pieces.That's exactly what I hope we get as bonus discs to the rereleases of the live albums, which are planned for 2011, sorry 2012, sorry unknown date ... |
Kevinrm15 10.06.2013 13:31 |
Milton Keynes has rushes Ginja. |
dysan 10.06.2013 13:38 |
They missed a trick adding Magic Years to the latest Wembley reissue. |
Rick 10.06.2013 14:21 |
All great posts, thanks for that. In sum: it's incredibly frustrating to be a Queen fan nowadays (well, actually, for a much longer period). Let's be honest. The last really 'new' thing we have got from QP is the Milton Keynes 1982 concert. It was never available in full, until that very day back in, believe it or not, 2004. Almost ten years ago. Ten years! I don't buy this '70s Queen isn't interesting for the general public' bull merda. They were hot in the 70s as well. They scored tons of hits in those days. Okay, the only well-known song from Rainbow is Killer Queen, but still. I think it's time to introduce the general public to Queen at their very best: live in the 70s. I think QP are underestimating how many Queen fans are dying to see this. Queen was/is one of the biggest bands on the planet, for Pete's sake. |
GinjaNinja 10.06.2013 14:44 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: Milton Keynes has rushes Ginja.I'm sure I've read on Brian's soapbox that there were no "ISO" machines running to record the individual camera feeds, they were stuck with the edit. |
cmsdrums 10.06.2013 14:51 |
GinjaNinja wrote:Kevinrm15 wrote: This is what Rhys Thomas has said about Earls Court: "Earls Court exists but the sound needs a lot of work for a surround sound mix. Picture wise it's good, but only a mixing tape -ie. no rushes like Wembley for example."They rarely even give us proper surround mix anyway, it's usually an upmix from stereo. And they didn't have any rushes for Budapest, Montreal or Milton Keynes, so neither of these is an excuse not to release it. As many 70's concerts on the agenda as possible please! Exactly - what's wrong with a great stereo mix? MK sound is dreadful (certainly the drums), and Wembley Friday audio is better than any of the numerous versions of the Saturday that we've had over the years |
Nick Browning 10.06.2013 15:54 |
dysan wrote: The biggest disappointment is that Rhys chap saying it's no good for 5.1 sound. So what? The Rainbow show is just boring now, same with Hammersmith '75.How is rainbow or hammersmith 75 boring? |
inu-liger 10.06.2013 18:21 |
GinjaNinja wrote:How do you explain the alternate angles seen on the two versions of "Staying Power" on the GVH 2 DVD and the On Fire DVD then?Kevinrm15 wrote: Milton Keynes has rushes Ginja.I'm sure I've read on Brian's soapbox that there were no "ISO" machines running to record the individual camera feeds, they were stuck with the edit. |
inu-liger 10.06.2013 18:22 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock.Hmm! Need more info, please rocknrolllover wrote: GT&GB so many blah blah blah! I don't believe you menAnd then the convenient not so slick attempt at a U-turn: rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!Are you bipolar or something? |
dowens 10.06.2013 18:37 |
I agree, so what if Earls Court can't be put in surround sound? Release it on CD in stereo? Why not? I thought about making this a separate thread on here, but I'll just state this here because it seems appropriate. Have you read the comments concerning the ICON release? They are all blasting the release. It's pretty apparent if you read here that we all feel the same way. GT and others seem to respect the fans on here because they do drop in occasionally and even ask for information concerning research, etc. They aren't oblivious to the fact that Queen fans are tired of these releases. It's just a shame that Queen Productions can't release anything of significance for the real fan-base. But, I guess from their perspective we should be happy that recent releases (in the past 2-3 years) includes Wembley Friday night, full Budapest, and the FM Barcelona album with a real orchestra. |
Saint Jiub 10.06.2013 22:04 |
inu-liger wrote:Suddenly an expert on being bipolar?rocknrolllover wrote:Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock.Hmm! Need more info, pleaserocknrolllover wrote: GT&GB so many blah blah blah! I don't believe you menAnd then the convenient not so slick attempt at a U-turn:rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!Are you bipolar or something? Fuck off Scabbers |
inu-liger 11.06.2013 00:05 |
Panchgani wrote:Did I say I was? Fuck off to you too, bullyinu-liger wrote:Suddenly an expert on being bipolar? Fuck off Scabbersrocknrolllover wrote:Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock.Hmm! Need more info, pleaserocknrolllover wrote: GT&GB so many blah blah blah! I don't believe you menAnd then the convenient not so slick attempt at a U-turn:rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!Are you bipolar or something? |
dudeofqueen 11.06.2013 00:46 |
>Sadly, I do honestly think the last good Queen DVDs I've ever bought were in Camden Market in about 1998. Exactly what I was thinking; he made a decent amount of money from me! QPL hasn't got the imagination to be able to think laterally - all they're concerned about it units and big units at that. They *FEAR* that if they were to release a concert film in stereo with no 5:1 option, then the product would be lambasted in the reviews sections of the music press. The fact is that no one actually cares whether its in 5:1 or stereo because the visuals of a film are so much more important than the listening experience. |
inu-liger 11.06.2013 00:58 |
dudeofqueen wrote: >Sadly, I do honestly think the last good Queen DVDs I've ever bought were in Camden Market in about 1998. Exactly what I was thinking; he made a decent amount of money from me! QPL hasn't got the imagination to be able to think laterally - all they're concerned about it units and big units at that. They *FEAR* that if they were to release a concert film in stereo with no 5:1 option, then the product would be lambasted in the reviews sections of the music press. The fact is that no one actually cares whether its in 5:1 or stereo because the visuals of a film are so much more important than the listening experience.Ironically, a huge portion of their "5.1" mixes is actually either quad surround (4.1) or up-mixed 5.1. |
cmsdrums 11.06.2013 03:40 |
dowens wrote: I thought about making this a separate thread on here, but I'll just state this here because it seems appropriate. Have you read the comments concerning the ICON release? They are all blasting the release. It's pretty apparent if you read here that we all feel the same way. GT and others seem to respect the fans on here because they do drop in occasionally and even ask for information concerning research, etc. They aren't oblivious to the fact that Queen fans are tired of these releases. It's just a shame that Queen Productions can't release anything of significance for the real fan-base.Yup - the ICON release is solely a money making exercise based on minimum effort for maximum gain - nothing more, nothing less. They can't argue that it's to 'get the music heard' cost that stuff already exists on countless compilations - at least the 'Deep Cuts' issues were a neat idea alongside the album reissues. In reply to a recent letter on his Soapbox, when accused of being hypocritical. Brian has said: "I can assure you I don't need any more fame, or money, or approbation. Why then, would the word 'hypocrite' be appropriate?' My response to this is: "if you don't want to be called a hypocrite, don't come out saying you don't need any more money or fame, but then continue to keep churning out all the greatest hits and other compilations and reissues"!!! |
Togg 11.06.2013 03:56 |
Well I can only assume it's a creative issue, I would guess either Brian or Roger are not happy with how they come across, i suspect it's Brian. Ok so maybe the recording will not stretch to a surround mix as Rhys said, ok fine with that release what you have in the best possible state, just a good stereo will do me.
Lostman wrote:Togg wrote: I'm not offering advice, I'm asking the question to GT I am aware it's been asked before but i have never seen a reply from an official source. There has to be a genuine reason, either a business case or creative issue, I don't understand why it's so difficult to answer? if it's a no it will never happen, fine, but why??Sorry dude, I got it wrong. And yeah, many people have tried to ask it before but no proper answer has been given to date yet. But hey, let's live in hope, huh? I think there could be a few reasons why it might never happen, but knowing the people of this website I don't feel generally fine revealing these reasons because it may lead to some unforeseen consequences. |
dudeofqueen 11.06.2013 06:20 |
CMSDrums, re: >My response to this is: "if you don't want to be called a hypocrite, don't come out saying you don't need any more money or fame, but then continue to keep churning out all the greatest hits and other compilations and reissues"!!! Absolutely. For a man with a PHd (I firmly believe that only medical practitioners should have the right to call themselves "Doctor"), he comes across as knowing very little commercially. I wonder how much REAL input Brian had during the band's heyday and John was on the scene to handle the "business side of things"? I'm guessing not a lot as, from all I've managed to garner through the years, Brian was a pretty marginal figure where the decision making process was concerned and only interested in lavishing everything with guitar overdubs. My bet has always been that the rest of the band would have been happy for something like "Live Killers" to go out as it was, only for Brian to threaten to pull it unless he could overdub the perfect solo........ |
KevoM 11.06.2013 06:58 |
dysan wrote: I'd be happy with Rare Live / Magic Years on a 2 DVD set if anything. At least they're interesting period pieces.ABSOLUTELY NOT!! One thing we don't want is to return to the dreadful 'cut & paste twin' 80s montages. They're so dated nowadays anyway |
Saint Jiub 11.06.2013 07:03 |
inu-liger wrote:Yet attacks on rocknrolllever and myself are perfectly acceptable. Pot Kettle BlackPanchgani wrote:Did I say I was? Fuck off to you too, bullyinu-liger wrote:Suddenly an expert on being bipolar? Fuck off Scabbersrocknrolllover wrote:Nick Browning wrote: eagle rock may be remastering the first or maybe second night of earls court here is a comparsion of the original and eagle rock.Hmm! Need more info, pleaserocknrolllover wrote: GT&GB so many blah blah blah! I don't believe you menAnd then the convenient not so slick attempt at a U-turn:rocknrolllover wrote: I just knew that was a fake! I just hoped!Are you bipolar or something? |
dudeofqueen 11.06.2013 07:04 |
KevoM I can see where dysan's coming from on this - remember, at the time, they weren't all that bad, were they - something was certainly better than nothing. For a documentary, The Magic Years was great but a s a stand-alone release, Rare Live was a shocking embarassment. What on EARTH posessed the powers that be who though we'd even be INTERESTED in seeing cuts and edits of footage like that? |
Lord Gaga 11.06.2013 08:08 |
Panchgani wrote: Yet attacks on rocknrolllever and myself are perfectly acceptable. Pot Kettle BlackHoly crap, man, let it drop. Every time Rich posts in any thread you mysteriously show up. rocknrolllover is a troll; he verbally abuses people and can be downright vicious sometimes. Why don't you call him out? You seem to have this chip on your shoulder with Rich. We get it; you don't like him, and you feel the need to bully him at the drop of a penny. But whatever you have against him, you're ruining the board with your constant diversions. Take it to email or private message and keep things on topic. No one cares about your stupid little spats. |
rocknrolllover 11.06.2013 08:11 |
Lord Gaga wrote:Shut up, I am not ? trollPanchgani wrote: Yet attacks on rocknrolllever and myself are perfectly acceptable. Pot Kettle BlackHoly crap, man, let it drop. Every time Rich posts in any thread you mysteriously show up. rocknrolllover is a troll; he verbally abuses people and can be downright vicious sometimes. Why don't you call him out? You seem to have this chip on your shoulder with Rich. We get it; you don't like him, and you feel the need to bully him at the drop of a penny. But whatever you have against him, you're ruining the board with your constant diversions. Take it to email or private message and keep things on topic. No one cares about your stupid little spats. |
dowens 11.06.2013 08:21 |
You know, taking a closer look at the track list for the ICON cd, only 4 of the tracks are from the 80's and 90's. The rest are from the 70's. That's interesting. |
dudeofqueen 11.06.2013 08:56 |
Is it aimed at the US market? Would make sense if that's the case........ |
cmsdrums 11.06.2013 08:59 |
dowens wrote: You know, taking a closer look at the track list for the ICON cd, only 4 of the tracks are from the 80's and 90's. The rest are from the 70's. That's interesting.Indeed - only two Freddie songs too which could be considered interesting too. This is the same as Roger, and there are three Brian and one John sole credits. Three combined band compositions bring up the 11 total, but I'd be interested to see how I Want It All and The Show Must Go On are credited on the sleeve, bearing in mind in recent years they have been put down on some releases as solely Brian compositions - if that happens here he'll have five sole credits! |
Negative Creep 11.06.2013 10:35 |
They have the multitracks for Earls Court, so the comment re surround mix is bollocks. Then take into account that no one listens to music in surround and that Wembley doesn't even have a proper fucking surround mix because they couldn't be bothered. What you have to remember is that the band members aren't arsed about anything (Brian it seems actively doesn't want much out there for fans), and the guys like GT and GB aren't either as they already have their own versions of everything. They have rough mixes set up of EVERYTHING in the archives for their own amusement. I personally don't believe a Rainbow DVD will happen, but if it does it will be a fraction as good as it could have been. |
MackMantilla 11.06.2013 11:15 |
I don't know if Earls Court audio would be so hard to work. At least the '39' track included on the ANATO Bonus EP sounds pretty nice.. |
Negative Creep 11.06.2013 12:06 |
They've already got the audio mixed to stereo. No ones care's about 5.1 (although easily assembled). End of chat. No reason for this stuff not being released apart from QPL's bizarre agenda of refusing to release decent stuff from the "archive". |
dudeofqueen 11.06.2013 12:12 |
"And so say all of us. And so say all of us, and so say all of us". |
dysan 11.06.2013 12:42 |
In response to a couple of the points I made: Rainbow and Hammersmith '75 = boring: please read the next part of my original post about the sweeties. Rare Live / Magic Years = 80s dated c&p job = please read the next part of my original post about them being interesting period pieces. I'm charging towards my 1000th post. Can we have a party? |
inu-liger 11.06.2013 17:08 |
MackMantilla wrote: I don't know if Earls Court audio would be so hard to work. At least the '39' track included on the ANATO Bonus EP sounds pretty nice..The problem with the Earl's Court recordings is, as the 1st night audience recording we put out over a year ago proves, they were having major problems with faulty patch cables chiefly on the vocal mics. It's possible too they were also having a bad night with the various equipment on the audio chain ("exploding" amps anyone?) which may have also contributed to the various problems plaguing the EC SB masters. You can even hear minor noises not typical of an absolutely clean recording on the "'39" recording on the ANATO bonus CD, and I will bet you guys anything even my studio engineer buddy (who incidentally did the remastering work on aforementioned aud. recording) will say that there's been restoration work done just to get it to sound good! |
Saint Jiub 11.06.2013 17:37 |
inu-liger wrote: Are you bipolar or something? Lord Gaga wrote: rocknrolllover is a troll; he verbally abuses people and can be downright vicious sometimes. Why don't you call him out? ... Has rocknrolllever initiated abuse in the past two months? I reacted to the bipolar insult, because Inu knows I am bipolar, AND because it was directed rocknrolllever for no good reason. I generally do not ignore bipolar insults on a public noticeboard. |
inu-liger 11.06.2013 19:29 |
Panchgani wrote: Has rocknrolllever initiated abuse in the past two months?His persistent form of trolling is certainly not far from the abusive category, given his verbal attacks on some individuals here. I reacted to the bipolar insult, because Inu knows I am bipolar, AND because it was directed rocknrolllever for no good reason. I generally do not ignore bipolar insults on a public noticeboard.You are an incredibly paranoid little bully. My comment (which was meant as a partially sarcastic joke, yet also partially serious question - something you clearly didn't pick up on considering the lack of tone associated with text-based posts) was most certainly not directed at you at all! Would you have reacted the same way if I was commenting on a very troubled celebrity (eg. Bynes)? There's a quote somewhere that I think goes a little like this: "You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you You're so vain, I'll bet you think this post is about you Don't you? Don't You? Don't You?" |
inu-liger 11.06.2013 19:33 |
PS. I'm still awaiting the apologies YourValentine highly recommended that I'm owed for those attacks on my condition, by the way. Anyways, let's back on topic like good little boys and girls before this devolves any faster ;) |
Lord Gaga 11.06.2013 20:28 |
Panchgani wrote: Has rocknrolllever initiated abuse in the past two months? I reacted to the bipolar insult, because Inu knows I am bipolar, AND because it was directed rocknrolllever for no good reason. I generally do not ignore bipolar insults on a public noticeboard.If you're going to defend someone, you might want to get his name right. I'm sure rocknrolllover has initiated abuse in the past two months. Right here in this very thread, in fact. He called GT, a man who works for QPL and who knows what's up, a liar. Why didn't you jump on that? Also, you tend to pick on Rich's condition as well. You call him names as well. In fact, you always seem to show up whenever he posts. Do you get email notifications when he does? It's a little strange, is all. You're also a hypocrite – calling out someone's bullying while bullying him back. If you've got a bone to pick, do it in private instead of constantly clogging up interesting threads. |
inu-liger 11.06.2013 21:20 |
Lord Gaga wrote: Also, you tend to pick on Rich's condition as well. You call him names as well.Indeed. And what was that I heard hurled my way, something about pot and kettle...? :-) |
Saint Jiub 11.06.2013 21:52 |
Lord Gaga wrote: You call him names as well. You're also a hypocrite – calling out someone's bullying while bullying him back. .You're right. |
Saint Jiub 11.06.2013 22:05 |
inu-liger wrote: PS. I'm still awaiting the apologies YourValentine highly recommended that I'm owed for those attacks on my condition, by the way. Anyways, let's back on topic like good little boys and girls before this devolves any faster ;)I apologize for the name calling and the insults and generally taking the low road. |
cmsdrums 12.06.2013 04:01 |
inu-liger wrote:I've got plenty of live video releases by artists that are happy to release it 'warts and all', included any drop outs, mic feedback 'squeal' etc - they have just released a stereo audio track that was actually mixed on the fly as the gig happened, and done no remixing or overdubbing afterwards.MackMantilla wrote: I don't know if Earls Court audio would be so hard to work. At least the '39' track included on the ANATO Bonus EP sounds pretty nice..The problem with the Earl's Court recordings is, as the 1st night audience recording we put out over a year ago proves, they were having major problems with faulty patch cables chiefly on the vocal mics. It's possible too they were also having a bad night with the various equipment on the audio chain ("exploding" amps anyone?) which may have also contributed to the various problems plaguing the EC SB masters. You can even hear minor noises not typical of an absolutely clean recording on the "'39" recording on the ANATO bonus CD, and I will bet you guys anything even my studio engineer buddy (who incidentally did the remastering work on aforementioned aud. recording) will say that there's been restoration work done just to get it to sound good! Yes, if multitracks exist then I'm happy for them to remix and present the audio as best they can (Montreal), although even then they mess it up sometimes (MK). However, if they can't remix for whatever reason, but have a perfectly servicable audio track, just give us this - we''ll love it!! I'm almost waiting for Brian to recall all existing copies of the first three albums and wipe them from existence cos they were 'only' recored on 8 track rather than 12, 24, 48 etc....!!!! |
pittrek 12.06.2013 06:22 |
I always prefer a proper stereo mix to a 6/8 channel mix anyway |
rocknrolllover 12.06.2013 06:29 |
Blah blah blah men!:-) I am not a troll and I know it and I don't care what you're all say! Good????!:-) |
Hang On In There 12.06.2013 08:43 |
"By the way Live At The Rainbow is in the pipeline" - is that the pipeline linked up to the black hole they made in the super collider at CERN? "Earl's Court is not on the agenda" - I don't want it on an agenda I want it on my telly! The Hyde Park show is good - but I don't think the setlist is great, they hadn't written that many songs at that point, but what you would you do about the bit where Freddie's vocal effects don't work - it looks awkward and Fred is obviously embarrassed. "MK sound is dreadful" - it always sounds good to me - very raw and live sounding which might be ironic I know. |
SimonFerocious 12.06.2013 10:00 |
Freddie is dead 22 years in November. Hard to believe after all this time that we STILL don't have these great concerts remastered and on our shelves. What are they waiting for? We also still don't have Queen's Greatest Flix on Blu-Ray covering all the hits up until today (and yes, they need remastering too, the alleged remasters on the DVDs from 10 years ago were awful.) |
Negative Creep 12.06.2013 11:14 |
Earl's Court has already been remixed. They have the multitracks and also allegedly the live soundboard mixes from the nights. So if there are any issues with the multitracks, it would be fairly simple to fly in the soundboard mixes. Talk of the various alleged technical reasons for this stuff not being released is 100% bullshit. Anything of any vintage of course needs work doing to it - that's nothing new or exciting. No one is expecting QPL to start releasing gigs they only have a VHS tape of a TV broadcast of! They own mutlitracks and video masters for this shit!! |
dysan 12.06.2013 11:33 |
Fair point. |
Rick 13.06.2013 03:21 |
If Fred was still alive, all of those incredible 70s concerts would have been released, I'm sure. It's not just QP, it's also Brian and Roger. They seem to be focused on different matters these days. Badgers, female singers, tattoos. The band has become a joke. |
Negative Creep 13.06.2013 06:16 |
Brian and Roger pretty much ARE QPL. It is they that veto potential releases. I don't reckon Jim Beach puts the knockers on any releases, and it's been confirmed John Deacon has completely removed himself from the equation (presumably becuse Brian is so hard to get on with). |
ParisNair 13.06.2013 07:07 |
Nick Browning: I saw it in the great pretender because eagle rock were part of the documentaryThat won't tell you that it's gonna happen by late 2013, 2014. |
DLCVinnuendo 13.06.2013 08:09 |
well, years pass, pass, pass, and nothing really interesting to be released, only rereleases, and boring compilations, 70's shows now QP!! |
KevoM 17.06.2013 06:55 |
Probably waiting for the '40 year anniversary' to kick in. Starting with Rainbow concert next year. So we can expect EC in 2017, if any of us are still around or even care by then. I stopped caring years ago. Anyway, surely there asre still some more '80s Freddie with 'tache' concerts to milk before then? :) |
MackMantilla 20.06.2013 11:17 |
KevoM wrote: Probably waiting for the '40 year anniversary' to kick in. Starting with Rainbow concert next year. So we can expect EC in 2017, if any of us are still around or even care by then. I stopped caring years ago. Anyway, surely there asre still some more '80s Freddie with 'tache' concerts to milk before then? :)So we should expect Rainbow in 2014, Hammersmith in 2015, Hyde Park en 2016 and Earls Court in 2017?? Ohh, wait.. it's only a dream! :'( |