| Rogers Untidy Bottom 26.05.2013 09:39 |
To be honest, I wasn't surprised that my thread would pull in so many replies. What did surprise me is that 90% of the responses were about Fanthology. I knew that certain people would know who I was when I posted. The last seven or eight days have been characterised by a few people who forgot they were my friends a few years ago suddenly deciding I was worth contacting again. Very curious. I hope to post info about AKOM, ADATR & NOTW over the following days. If I could ask you to post any questions after I have started those threads, that would be appreciated. Is there any more info I can provide on QII or The Game? |
| Ozz 26.05.2013 17:55 |
Your phrasing reminds me a lot some Queen related book I read like a year ago..:D I agree with you that it seems BM never liked much FM, maybe there was some unconscious friction between two different methodologies to make songs. This MACK quote comes to mind about CLTCL , I don't know if you can add something about it. "Freddie said, “Can we do this real quick? I just have an idea. I want to get down as a reference so I don't forget it. Don’t worry, I can’t play guitar!” I put him in a little booth right next to the control room and, since I had everything else set up, he asked if we could go for sounds. I said, “Just put it down. It’ll be alright.” He said, “We’ve never done that.” I said, “It doesn’t matter. Trust me, it will work!” We put a track down and, being good musicians as they are, that is the track you hear! Freddie said, “Let’s do this real quick, before Brian [May] comes. Otherwise it will take weeks to get it done.” So, we had the basic structure [to “Crazy Little Thing Called Love”]. The next thing was a couple of overdubs. Freddie said, “Wait, mark my words; when Brian comes in, before he even hears it, he will say, ‘I don’t like it.’” Brian comes two days later. “Hey, you been doing anything?” I said, “Yeah. We’ve been putting down ideas. I think it’s come out pretty good.” “Well, I don’t like it.” I think he’s holding that against me to this day! I said, “This is the sort of part. Can you play a Fender Telecaster? Because it’s a take off of a rockabilly kind of thing.” He did it, in about eight takes. Being sort of to the point, I kept recording over it. I didn’t have eight tracks. He said, “Let me do it again. Let’s see what we’ve got so we can comp something together.” I said, “You’re going to have to listen back real close! The one you hear is the one you’ve got. The other ones are underneath, in the oxide!” He did an interview in Melody Maker and went on for a page and a half about the “incident.” He didn’t like that too much. But overall the track came out pretty good." |
| dowens 26.05.2013 21:26 |
Finally, you return! |
| dowens 26.05.2013 21:29 |
Oh, I have a question about The Game. Are there a lot of tracks that were basically done to the point of release, or are most just demos, of basic ideas? Does that make sense? It's still amazing to me that a potential double LP ends up being their shortest album. |
| cmsdrums 27.05.2013 02:49 |
dowens wrote: Oh, I have a question about The Game. Are there a lot of tracks that were basically done to the point of release, or are most just demos, of basic ideas? Does that make sense? Hi - yes, that's my question too; are there unreleased songs that were expressively worked on, or are there just lots of initial ideas that were tried, but are very incomplete? Cheers |
| dudeofqueen 27.05.2013 03:34 |
Ozz, re: >This MACK quote comes to mind about CLTCL , I don't know if you can add something about it. You know, it makes perfect sense; it seems, to me, that Brian tried very hard to push the technical side of the studio process in the 1970s and then, once things DID get more technical with synths, he moved against it - wanting to strip things down a lot more. He was critical of the lack of opportunity for guitar on the material recorded for "Hot Space" and "The Works". Add this to the studio tweaking that went in to "Queen Live Killers" and his own "Live At The Brixton Academy" and you have someone who is in DESPERATE search of the perfect recording. Freddie, who saw pop and singles especially, believed that less was perhaps more in the greater scheme of things but there was obviously room for exposition in the grander productions like The Prophet's Song etc. Freddie's "Brian's going to have to write some 'cos I can't" comment at Earls Court always seemed very prophetic to me in this regrad; they all had their own ideas and thoughts but comprmise seemed to be a very tricky subject. A lot of jealousy about Roger having the b-side to Bo Rhap anyone? Two strong personalities battling against each other. Fire and brimstone. |
| Rogers Untidy Bottom 27.05.2013 05:01 |
Although he genuinely grieved for FM, BM's big problem with Freddie was they were both shy blokes with a talent for music but FM was a genuine star. Think about BM's songs and specifically their lyrical content. "I'm lonely, I'm sad, I'm depressed, I'm shy" - essentially I have just written a new BM solo album in that sentence. He's also massively intolerant of others. Who wants to listen to 45 minutes of that self pitying shit? Besides which, Jimmy Nail is a more talented vocalist than him. BM can be a very small man. FM, on the other hand, he oozed star appeal. Regarding the Game, I believe most were completed, finished songs and the rest at 4th/5th demo stage so very well advanced. |
| dudeofqueen 27.05.2013 05:10 |
Re: >Think about BM's songs and specifically their lyrical content. "I'm lonely, I'm sad, I'm depressed, I'm shy" - essentially I have just written a new BM solo album in that sentence. And the material YOU have created is more original and INTERESTING than the bulk of BTTL and AW........ I'd imagine that the attention heaped on FM would have been pretty grating for anyone else in the same group as him, but surely, someone else being able to handle all that attention when the band were as big as they were, would be a God-send. Unless Brian really, secretly CRAVED that attention and vented his spleen at the press with regard to privacy etc in order to get himself a few column inches. Remember his rants about autograph hunters depriving him of his privacy......? |
| Rogers Untidy Bottom 27.05.2013 05:44 |
John and Roger never really minded FM getting all the attention. They're just normal blokes really who had success in their lives. Neither John nor Roger are shouting to make their voices heard by becoming the UN's first badger ambassador. The guy is just, well... BM knows that without Freddie, he's a weak vocalist many of whose songs are about as sophisticated as Status Quo. |
| dudeofqueen 27.05.2013 06:07 |
Re: >Neither John nor Roger are shouting to make their voices heard by becoming the UN's first badger ambassador. The guy is just, well... Hmmm..... I'm not sure that's entirely fair. Brian is - clearly, unless the whole thing is a very elaborate smoke-screen - obviously very passionate about the subject and is, rightly, doing something about it where he feels he can make a difference. He's mis-managing it, though, by absolutely ramming it down the throats of the people that follow him because of his success as a musician. I'm sure there are plenty of fans that are concerned about badger survival, but I'm sure that there is a MUCH LARGER number of people who would rather he stopped banging on about it. The musical too...... Kerry Ellis too..... Astronomy too...... Stereo photographs too..... Having said that, its all done under the guise of brianmay.com and, essentially, is his to lend his name to whatever he wants. >many of whose songs are about as sophisticated as Status Quo. And I think that shocked Paul Rodgers - considering that their 'friendship' had been so open since 1993 - its amazing - to me - that they didn't team up before and that, once they DID, such rubbish was given to Paul to sing. I'd wager that Paul wanted Brian and Roger to delve a bit in to th ecatalogue but that Brian just wanted to play WWRY night after night for the rest of his life. |
| Rogers Untidy Bottom 27.05.2013 06:19 |
The guy is a narcissist. What happened when he went for addiction therapy pretty much sums him up for me. |
| lastfm 27.05.2013 07:03 |
Totally. And let's face it: that bit with the lettuce manager at Tesco was pretty revealing too. You HAVE to be winding people up with elliptical twaddle like that. |
| Rogers Untidy Bottom 27.05.2013 07:14 |
Lastfm or should I say **** ******, I was wondering when you'd pipe up. You know what I'm talking about. It was even in the Daily Mail. |
| dudeofqueen 27.05.2013 07:33 |
Some people are in a constant state of denial......... |
| lastfm 27.05.2013 08:35 |
Rogers Untidy Bottom wrote: Lastfm or should I say **** ******, I was wondering when you'd pipe up. You know what I'm talking about. It was even in the Daily Mail.Yes, please call me *** ******. (?) Anyway, I'm not intending to be a jerk and I think much of that character assessment is bang on. But I don't know what you're talking about, nor I suspect do a significant number of other people. The general rhythm of your posts is several in a row that sound credible followed by something that seems subtly off by design. Please consider that feedback rather than any kind of accusation. I'm not trying to give you a hard time or discourage your stuff, it's just that any of us can understand resistance to being made a fool of, and avoiding whiffs of that is probably preferable. Carry on then. |
| scallyuk 27.05.2013 08:52 |
nice to see an insider with an outsiders take on things. Hope to hear more from you Mr Bottom :) |
| dowens 27.05.2013 09:03 |
Back on topic...so you're saying there are many completed, unreleased tracks from The Game sessions? Is it fair to say there are probably many other tracks in the same shape concerning other sessions? |
| Vali 27.05.2013 09:59 |
dowens wrote: Back on topic...so you're saying there are many completed, unreleased tracks from The Game sessions? Is it fair to say there are probably many other tracks in the same shape concerning other sessions?yes please, keep the discussion about MUSIC going on. That's where the most fascinating revelations are showing up ! :) Re The Game nearly completed / unreleased songs: besides, most probably, Sandbox, are there any additional titles we could discover here? |
| Thistle 27.05.2013 10:11 |
Haha, **** ****** = John Deacon. Deacy's here, folks!! :) Interesting stuff about The Game, btw. Not sure how credible the source is, but it would be awesome if that album reached its full potential. I mean, it's great already, but with more stuff of that calibre.....wow! That's proper pre-ejaculate stuff right there :) Just wish you'd stop the Brian bashing, though. I know it's a discussion forum, but there's just some stuff we don't NEED to know - assuming you're not acting the goat. Not a jibe at you, RUB, but personal stuff should be kept personal. Back to the music, then......is there any chance you can give a rough track list for how The Game was meant to be? Cheers! |
| brENsKi 27.05.2013 16:43 |
my own slant on this? i remember going out to buy "the game" on the day of release and the anticipation of playing it being totally expunged by the underwhelming feeling that followed EVERY time i played it. truthfully? i never really got the album at all. there were tracks i liked "rock it" "play the game" but generally - it was a lazy, basic, effort lacking effort or any of the queen trademarks i'd grown up with. so, for me...any "new" tracks to surface now can only be an improvement |
| scottmax 27.05.2013 19:47 |
Sorry for being the pessimist but is this bloke actually for real or what? |
| Sheer Brass Neck 27.05.2013 21:48 |
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| Sheer Brass Neck 27.05.2013 21:52 |
Seems to be relatively knowledgeable on band dynamics, but with lines like "BM knows that without Freddie, he's a weak vocalist many of whose songs are about as sophisticated as Status Quo" comes off as petty and resentful of Brian as Freddie wrote more hits but Brian was a fantastic songwriter from Queen to The Game and his songs will live a hell of a lot longer than those of Status Quo. After The Game though? Meh. |
| dowens 27.05.2013 22:23 |
The Game a lazy effort? Is that because the album was hugely successful and has some of Queen's largest hits? Not trying to start a debate, just curious why its considered lazy. I'd love to know why a double album didn't come to fruition. And for the record, I think this stuff is legit because no one from QPL has commented on the topic. |
| Thistle 28.05.2013 03:19 |
I like how the OP posts fragments of random knowledge, disappears for ages without responding to the buzz he causes, and then comes back nonchalantly with more stuff. No validation to any comments, btw....just more stuff. C'mon RUB, where are you? Either feed the thirst for knowledge or cut it out :) |
| Fireplace 28.05.2013 03:29 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: I like how the OP posts fragments of random knowledge, disappears for ages without responding to the buzz he causes, and then comes back nonchalantly with more stuff. No validation to any comments, btw....just more stuff. C'mon RUB, where are you? Either feed the thirst for knowledge or cut it out :)A proven tactic on this board, introduced by our favourite archivist. The jury's still out on RUB though, I hope he follows through. |
| mooghead 28.05.2013 03:30 |
dowens wrote: And for the record, I think this stuff is legit because no one from QPL has commented on the topic.That's an outrageous thing to say. Because QPL haven't commented on what people on this messageboard are saying it must be true?! Have they ever said anything? So everything is true? Astounding. |
| mooghead 28.05.2013 03:33 |
brENsKi wrote: it was a lazy, basic, effort lacking effortWow... one of their biggest, far reaching albums. Perhaps if they had been this lazy and basic from the start they really would have been bigger than the Beatles. |
| Thistle 28.05.2013 04:55 |
mooghead wrote:DING!dowens wrote: And for the record, I think this stuff is legit because no one from QPL has commented on the topic.That's an outrageous thing to say. Because QPL haven't commented on what people on this messageboard are saying it must be true?! Have they ever said anything? So everything is true? Astounding. |
| brENsKi 28.05.2013 05:00 |
mooghead wrote:thanks for taking my comments out of context. never let the truth get in the way of creating a groundless opportunity to flame someone.brENsKi wrote: it was a lazy, basic, effort lacking effortWow... one of their biggest, far reaching albums. Perhaps if they had been this lazy and basic from the start they really would have been bigger than the Beatles. FTR - this is what i actually said: truthfully? i never really got the album at all. there were tracks i liked "rock it" "play the game" but generally - it was a lazy, basic, effort lacking effort or any of the queen trademarks i'd grown up with. |
| Thistle 28.05.2013 05:28 |
^ I don't think he was flaming you, brenski - but, after all the infighting of late, it's understandable that some of us may still feel a little delicate. I think his reply was fair-play, mate :) Tbh, I took your comments the same way as Moog did, but I can see what you're saying if comparing it to earlier output - thing is, queen were moving in a different direction by this point. I don't think that, because it might not sound as sophisticated as, say Queen II, that there was any less effort put into The Game. I love it, with the exception of Dragon Attack, from start to finish. Play The Game is an awesome track, Another One Bites The Dust illustrates the change in direction, Rock It is fun, upbeat and pure Roger, Coming Soon is stellar whilst SASS and Save Me are beautiful, delicate tracks. Save me is actually my favourite from the album: top notch vocals from Freddie and some really amazing guitar work - goosebumps all the time for me. Especially live! Like I say, if there was more of the same to add, then that would be a real orgasmic experience, AFAIC. Of course brenski, your opinion is as valid as mine or Moog's, but I think he's entitled to debate it without being told its a groundless opportunity to flame. His point is quite fair (despite appearing jovial/sarcastic or however you want to perceive it), and does stand to reason. And it's not often I agree with him lol :) |
| brENsKi 28.05.2013 05:39 |
@Thistleboy & Moog that wasn't my point. my point was Moog hacked one tiny part of a sentence and pasted it to suit an argument. when you place it in the WHOLE sentence, its meaning is not as Moog made it appear. anyway, not fighting over it, just clearing it up |
| mooghead 28.05.2013 05:48 |
"it was a lazy, basic, effort lacking effort or any of the queen trademarks i'd grown up with." The sam can be said about News of the World and Jazz |
| dudeofqueen 28.05.2013 05:50 |
In defense of the OP, not EVERYONE who contributes to this board has the time to be on here as often as others do; people dip in and out when they feel they have the time to spare.........people have lives, you know. |
| brENsKi 28.05.2013 06:00 |
but to clarify the "lazy" word how many tracks used the Oberheim? and why? because if you listen to the intro to "Play The Game" "SASS" some of the "effects" in "Dragon Attack" "Dust" "coming soon" the verses in "Rock It" and the bridge "Save Me" (2:25 onwards) all of the above they'd have usually done with real instruments... the OBX was a cop-out in my opinion. think about it - all the songs they had, and they still ended up with the shortest album they ever made..couple that with the first use of the synth. smacks a little of "oh let's just get the fucker done, and go skiiing/snorting/partying/shagging" the synth was not groundbreaking - bands used synths for almost a decade by this stage. so my view is it was a way to do something without toil |
| YourValentine 28.05.2013 10:23 |
I think that many Queen fans at the time felt that way, Brenski. The Game sounded very basic and missed a lot of the familiar bombastic Queen sound. I always thought it was the band's attempt to live up to the 80s and not relive the past but in fact IMO Queen had quite an ongoing problem trying to reconcile their music with the sound of the 80s that spread over 3 albums. For me it lasted till AKOM when they had regained some confidence soundwise and naturally combined all the band achievements with the requirements of the contemporary sound. After the all-too-poppy (imo) Miracle it took Innuendo to return to their wonderful unique sound. That does not mean that Game, Hot Space and Works did not have some great songs. The albums just did not have this breath taking effect imo. |
| brENsKi 28.05.2013 10:28 |
i think you nailed what i was trying to say Barb. in fact, if you take the best of those four albums - game, HS, AKOM & works you could probably (just about) make one great fullsize album out of them. which equates to about 12/13 tracks |
| The Real Wizard 28.05.2013 11:40 |
Bang on. Here are my 13: Play The Game Dragon Attack Sail Away Sweet Sister Save Me Under Pressure Las Palabras de Amor Radio Ga Ga It's A Hard Life Hammer To Fall One Vision A Kind Of Magic Who Wants To Live Forever Princes of the Universe ^ note that only three tracks are by Mercury. The rest is filler, or at best, truly non-essential as per the depth of their catalogue. I just can't add Break Free and Dust. Sorry Deacy - they're pop hits, not depth. I'd like to add Soul Brother to the list too. Let's call it an honourable mention. |
| brENsKi 28.05.2013 11:57 |
yes, ^^^^because he was too busy doing a "lennon" - filling himself with drugs and shit rather than making music. incidentally, in the same period i'd probably pick mainly songs that WERE mercury compositions - despite his lack of creativity.... mainly because what the other three were doing was even sh*tter. think that's because not only was he NOT interested in his own song-writing at that point, he was also disinterested in his usual "quality control" role in what John and Roger were writing. think he got his "buzz" back after live aid - it was the kick up the backside he needed. fyi - my 13 from that time: play the game life is real hard life kptow princes rock it save me coming soon need your loving tonight action this day gaga hammer sail away sweet sister |
| Bohardy 28.05.2013 12:01 |
Back to the topic at hand, although I still maintain that RUB is just a WUM, I do think it interesting that GT or Greg (which is who I imagine Dowens was referring to when he said QPL) haven't commented at all on any of his assertions. I would also imagine that the **** ****** was meant to refer to Greg. |
| Lord Gaga 28.05.2013 12:13 |
Agreed, Bohardy. WUM or not, this just proves that there may be more to the archives than first thought. Remember, nobody had any idea that 'Grand Dame' or 'Affairs' existed until two years ago. |
| Rogers Untidy Bottom 28.05.2013 13:12 |
To quote myself from a previous thread... "Most of the people close to the fact know there were over 30 songs recorded for what became "The Game". From memory, RT is quoted as saying 20. Rubbish, there's easily 10 more and he knows it and Fanthology knows it. Hugely hugely creative period even when the first cracks were starting to appear between FM and BM (imho, BM never really liked FM but other people said I was wrong on that). QPL history tells us that "The Game" was recorded over 2 periods of time - summer 79 and spring 80. That much is factually correct but there were at least 2 more. Within the band, following the release of "Jazz", there was general confusion in what direction they should take the next album. Do they stay all "no synths" and "baroque and roll" or do they adapt to the times? Well, they did both - originally by "accident", then the idea of a double LP with two discs with different "Queens" on it circulated, then it went to the LP that was originally released. CLTCL, SASS, CS and SM were four of, from memory, 16 tracks laid down in 1979 in various different studios (deffo one in London and Ireland). You could imagine any of those tracks fitting on SHA right up to NOTW - albeit with different production. Very classic Queen direction. Other track names from memory were "Home" (ballady), "Only For Today" ("save the world" type song), "Earth" (rocker - not the Smile song), "Cut Me Up" (rocky ballad) and "(It) Seems Like Love" (acoustic ballad, from memory). "It's A Beautiful Day" was originally a gospel-like "All God's People"/"Somebody To Love" type song. I loved the original version abck then but I really like All God's People, despite the fact it appears on what I think is a terrible album. However, come 1980, the thinking had flipped more to FM and JD's approach, hence AOBTD, DA, PTG, RI(PJ) (Roger attempt at the sound) and a few other tracks, some of which wouldn't have been out of place on Hot Space. In fact, I wonder if some of the completed songs from those sessions were "re-imagined" for Hot Space. I think they might have been but we are talking 33-34 years ago and it was a mad time. I wasn't there when the decision-making process took place, but it's obvious they went all "new Queen" and consigned the rest to the archive. A great pity - the March-ish 1980 idea of a double LP with one 12" of old "Queen" and a 12" of the new "Queen" would have been amazing." I wasn't there for the decision to make it a single album so I don't know why they did. If the way the average Queen discussion went happened in this case, BM would have argued about it for half an hour and then stormed off for two weeks. |
| waunakonor 28.05.2013 16:06 |
I'd like to participate in this discussion about unreleased stuff from The Game, but there's not much about this that I really want to say, or read. I could read pages and pages from the somewhat distant memory of a guy who may or may not actually have knowledge about this stuff, but I'll only be really interested if these songs from The Game and Queen II (for some reason Deep Ridge has really sparked my interest. Maybe it's because I absolutely love the vocal choirs in Brian's songs from that time) actually started coming up. Until then, there's not much to be said.
I don't understand the Brian bashing going on in the first page of this thread at all. I think I like Back to the Light and Another World (and Furia!) more than your average bear, but seriously, they lack depth? No way. That's what Queen should have sounded like in the 80s.
Rogers Untidy Bottom wrote: Think about BM's songs and specifically their lyrical content. "I'm lonely, I'm sad, I'm depressed, I'm shy" - essentially I have just written a new BM solo album in that sentence. He's also massively intolerant of others. Who wants to listen to 45 minutes of that self pitying shit? Besides which, Jimmy Nail is a more talented vocalist than him. BM can be a very small man. FM, on the other hand, he oozed star appeal.Weak singer? His voice is amazing, both when complementing Freddie's and alone. It's so beautiful. Self pitying? I'm having a REALLY hard time figuring out what you're talking about. Yes, he wrote some pretty sad songs, but he wrote other songs as well. And maybe Freddie and Brian weren't the best of friends. So what? They sounded magnificent together. Why should Brian be bashed for some small personal distastes? And Brian May is not small. Take Freddie off that high horse and see him as he was: a human being. Just like Brian. As for opinions on The Game, interestingly I agree with brENsKi. The synths just struck me as lazy. It saddens me that if White Queen or Some Day One Day had been released 10 years later, those gorgeous vocal choirs during the guitar solos would have been synths that sounded kind of like vocals instead of actual voices. The synths in Game, Sister, Save Me and Rock It could all have easily been guitars. A potentially related issue is that when Brian does finally get his moment, it leaves something to be desired. Sister and Save Me have nice solos, but other songs (Dragon Attack, Rock It, Suicide, Coming Soon) strike me as uninteresting and slapped in there to give Brian something to do. Finally, I just hate Suicide. The bassline's wicked awesome and the idea is kind of funny, but the whole song feels really disjointed (do we really need another funky handclap section in this album?) and I don't really see how the song all fits together. And, just for fun, here's my 13 song tracklist from The Game/Hot Space/The Works/A Kind of Magic Radio Ga-Ga Dancer It's a Hard Life Who Wants to Live Forever Gimme the Prize Princes of the Universe Sail Away Sweet Sister Back Chat Las Palabras De Amor Play the Game Under Pressure Coming Soon Save Me |
| Rogers Untidy Bottom 28.05.2013 16:33 |
When they were working on the "baroque and roll" Game sessions, the closest album equivalent I could think of would be that one of the two albums would sound like SHA. "Earth" was similar to ITLOTG and "Cut Me Up" like a Romeo and Juliet meets SCC. What a pity they didn't go ahead with the doubler. Try spending 3 hrs in His Lordship May's company and see if you think I'm being harsh on him then. Have you seen how the insecure idiot named himself on the badger petition? Sorry but aside from the guy being a boring pain in the ass, if you knew how much material he has that he won't release/sell, you'd cry. Just like I do when I hear the self pitying crap that is TMLWKY. |
| Rogers Untidy Bottom 28.05.2013 16:43 |
Sorry to harp on but that's why you're all dead wrong about JSS, Fanthology, etc. yes, they might be complicit in the denial of the truths I'm speaking but there's much more of a chance of them giving away what we all want to hear (albeit at some unknown point in the future) than there is for Dr Brian Harold May sanctioning the release of the really interesting stuff. There's more chance of Real Madrid winning the Barclays Premier League than that. He doesn't care as that will take his time away from hating everyone who disagrees with him and his belief that, because he can play a guitar quite well and tell Uranus from his elbow, his worldview is somehow more important than anyone else's. |
| Lord Gaga 28.05.2013 17:24 |
I'm always willing to accept that there's a lot more in the archives than what the experts are aware of, and I'm also willing to accept that a guitarist doesn't always fart rainbows and roses and might have something of an egotistical/perfectionist streak to him. As far as I'm concerned, until Gary Taylor or Greg Brooks, who have more intimate knowledge of the archives than we do, bounces into this thread and disproves RUB's recollections, I'm at least willing to be open-minded. |
| inu-liger 28.05.2013 19:17 |
Lord Gaga wrote: As far as I'm concerned, until Gary Taylor or Greg Brooks, who have more intimate knowledge of the archives than we do, bounces into this thread and disproves RUB's recollections, I'm at least willing to be open-minded.You do realize, they can't just go freely commenting on what's in the archives or not, per Non-Disclosure Clauses. Remember, Greg Brooks had to get permission from Jim Beach to release the list of professional audio recordings they had in the archive a few years ago. |
| Lord Gaga 28.05.2013 19:31 |
I'm well aware, my friend. |
| inu-liger 28.05.2013 19:51 |
Just checking |
| The Real Wizard 28.05.2013 21:42 |
Rogers Untidy Bottom wrote: Try spending 3 hrs in His Lordship May's company and see if you think I'm being harsh on him then.I have, and I've found him to be amongst the most genuinely kind, generous and accommodating people in the world. |
| dowens 28.05.2013 22:20 |
Hey mooghead, my comment about QPL not making a comment was just a "hmm, that's interesting" sort of thing, not saying it must be true what RUB says. I just find it interesting GT or GB, who frequents these message boards, hasn't made a reply. |
| dowens 28.05.2013 22:29 |
I take it RUB doesn't like BM. Ha. |