| Vali 23.05.2013 08:08 |
This morning, while driving to work, I started listening to the new Daft Punk album (fantastic, imo) and then came the 3rd track with Giorgio Moroder, a great tune by the way: "Giorgio By Moroder". Of course "Love Kills" came to mind and started thinking that I couldn't remember that much information being available regarding the proper collaboration between Freddie and Moroder. The story behind the track, being a Queen project that ended up being Freddie's first solo release, is well known. But do you know any additional information regarding how much input did Moroder have in the creation of the final song? Or are there any interviews of Freddie talking about Moroder or viceversa? About their work together in the studio, etc etc ? thanks ! Vali |
| k-m 23.05.2013 14:05 |
Thanks for bringing it up. There's a lot of talk about Moroder in the UK lately and I'm curious about it too. Sorry for not adding much to the discussion though ;) |
| on my way up 23.05.2013 14:07 |
Giorgio by Moroder is a great track indeed. Absolutely killer! |
| mooghead 23.05.2013 14:18 |
'I Feel Love' could have been made yesterday. Genius. Moroder/Queen? Not so good. |
| Stelios 24.05.2013 06:56 |
I had made a similar post about a year ago . But there was no additional information added becouse nobody knew. Let's hope this time we learn something ... |
| Lord Gaga 24.05.2013 09:25 |
Sparks and Moroder made quite a trio. |
| Fireplace 26.05.2013 10:23 |
As you know, Love Kills was part of a soundtrack album for a Moroder remake of Fritz Lang's classic movie Metropolis.Moroder decided he wanted contemporary artists for the soundtrack, but he and lyricist Pete Bellotte wrote all songs except Love Kills which was written by Freddie. The link between Freddie and Moroder may well have been Mack, who produced a few other tracks on the album besides Love Kills.The whole deal was probably negotiated through the mutual business representatives, and I suspect Freddie and Moroder may have never met in person. So apart from Freddie writing and performing a song for Moroder's album (and Moroder probably having the final say on whether Love Kills was a "go" or "no go"), it might not have been much of a collaboration at all. Freddie wrote the song, recorded it in Munich probably using his own musicians, and delivered the song. If anyone knows more, I'd be very interested. |
| IanR 26.05.2013 12:57 |
The extended mix of 'Love Kills' features the same dramatic synth chord (DSC) and marimba playing (M) found on 'It's An Illusion' (M), 'Strange Frontier' (M), 'Killing Time' (DSC), and the extended mix of 'Keep Passing the Open Windows' (M) & (DSC). So Roger was very likely to have been involved, as well as Brian, and possibly John. |
| Fireplace 26.05.2013 13:19 |
IanR wrote: The extended mix of 'Love Kills' features the same dramatic synth chord (DSC) and marimba playing (M) found on 'It's An Illusion' (M), 'Strange Frontier' (M), 'Killing Time' (DSC), and the extended mix of 'Keep Passing the Open Windows' (M) & (DSC). So Roger was very likely to have been involved, as well as Brian, and possibly John.Unless of course the DMC (great term!) and marimba came from Roger's producer David Richards. |
| Stelios 26.05.2013 13:48 |
Fireplace wrote: As you know, Love Kills was part of a soundtrack album for a Moroder remake of Fritz Lang's classic movie Metropolis.Moroder decided he wanted contemporary artists for the soundtrack, but he and lyricist Pete Bellotte wrote all songs except Love Kills which was written by Freddie. The link between Freddie and Moroder may well have been Mack, who produced a few other tracks on the album besides Love Kills.The whole deal was probably negotiated through the mutual business representatives, and I suspect Freddie and Moroder may have never met in person. So apart from Freddie writing and performing a song for Moroder's album (and Moroder probably having the final say on whether Love Kills was a "go" or "no go"), it might not have been much of a collaboration at all. Freddie wrote the song, recorded it in Munich probably using his own musicians, and delivered the song. If anyone knows more, I'd be very interested.If Freddie wrote, delivered and used his own musicians what exactly did Moroder do? Except by wrote you mean "lyrics only" so the music composition goes to Moroder. But then again it is rumored that Love Kills was initially a Freddie idea/project that never fruitioned within Queen.And i doubt it was just a "lyric-idea". So Moroder did just the production? |
| Lord Gaga 26.05.2013 14:28 |
My understanding of it was that Queen wanted to use Metropolis footage for Radio Ga Ga. Moroder somehow had the rights, as he was re-releasing the film with contemporary music, and Love Kills was the trade-off: you give us footage for Radio Ga Ga, and we'll give you Love Kills. |
| Fireplace 26.05.2013 15:08 |
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| Fireplace 26.05.2013 15:13 |
Apparently Moroder IS credited for the music of Love Kills, although on my CD copy it just says "written by Freddie Mercury". Now I can't imagine Freddie writing words only, since he always claimed lyrics were hard to write for him. So perhaps Moroder added some parts, maybe the synth solo, and shared writing credits with Freddie. The trade-off story is true and well documented, the rest will, unfortunately, remain conjecture. . |
| Lord Gaga 26.05.2013 16:59 |
I can't remember where I read it, (maybe from Peter Freestone?) but Moroder had very little say in any of the writing of the song, and I think a stipulation for getting the Metropolis footage was that he received a co-credit on Love Kills. |
| dysan 01.06.2013 15:02 |
Mack was a producer who worked for GM. When GM worked with Sparks for their late 70s disco album Number One In Heaven he eventually handed them to Mack for the more rock things after that (check Whomp That Sucker - identical in sound to The Game and recorded pretty much back to back at the same studio) Also note the Sparks t shirt visible in the One Vision video. Small world! |
| Lord Gaga 01.06.2013 20:24 |
Indeed. I much prefer Angst In My Pants, though; a far better Mack production from 1982. Just imagine if Hot Space had sounded like that! Also, Ron and Russell had tried to recruit Brian to be Sparks' guitarist in 1974, just before Sheer Heart Attack was released. I think 'This Town Ain't Big Enough for the Both of Us' had just hit the charts, too, so they were right to be a little arrogant! |
| dysan 02.06.2013 03:10 |
I dunno - I prefer the songs on Whomp! Sorry I didn't see you mention Sparks further up the thread when I first read it through. Comparisons between the two bands are fascinating. Kimono is so similar to Queen II in places. I think they asked Brian when he was ill as they thought he had left Queen (as was misreported in the press). The team up would've been amazing, but definitely wouldn't have lasted long. They also worked with Mick Ronson briefly so had good taste in guitarists! |
| Pim Derks 02.06.2013 03:28 |
Saw Sparks for the fifth time last week. Great to see older musicians still being creative, instead of babbling about badgers ;-) |
| dysan 02.06.2013 06:52 |
The two hands one mouth tour? How was it? I've heard good reports about it. |
| Pim Derks 02.06.2013 09:09 |
Yes. I saw the 2H1M premiere in London last year, then Ghent in October and now Paris. Also saw them twice in 2009, performing Exotic Creatures Of The Deep, Kimono My House and Number One In Heaven. Awesome band. |
| niall 11.06.2015 08:18 |
The two men did in fact meet and work together as described here by Moroder..... link |
| KevoM 12.06.2015 06:29 |
Gone off Moroder In a recent interview he said Freddie was the biggest 'diva' he ever worked with! |
| musicland munich 12.06.2015 19:41 |
Funny that this one comes round the corner , Hansjörg ( somehow it's actually my boss - snicker) released a new album.. |
| The Fairy King 09.01.2017 20:15 |
Dunno if this is the interview KevoM is talking about, but here's Moroder talking about working with Freddie: Giorgio about working with Freddie. |
| cmsdrums 10.01.2017 08:33 |
My recollection and intepretation of interviews regarding 'Love Kills' is that Moroder was used to working with artists that just did exactly as he wanted with little or no input. Freddie was never goign to be like that, and so Moroder was put out by this, and by Freddie actually wanting an input to their collaboration, and to exacting standards at that. He effectively left Freddie to work on Love Kills alone (well, with the rest of Queen), and the song pretty much has no real input from Moroder but Freddie was gracious enough to still give his a co-credit. |
| IanR 05.11.2017 22:53 |
IanR wrote: The extended mix of 'Love Kills' features the same dramatic synth chord (DSC) and marimba playing (M) found on 'It's An Illusion' (M), 'Strange Frontier' (M), 'Killing Time' (DSC), and the extended mix of 'Keep Passing the Open Windows' (M) & (DSC). So Roger was very likely to have been involved, as well as Brian, and possibly John.Turns out that the dramatic synth chord, which also cropped up in Rog's Olympic Theme, is a Fairlight CMI preset: ORCH 2 link Watch this video, or go straight to 4:30. |