| Chief Mouse 05.05.2013 04:53 |
Star Wars saga is one of the most influental in the whole cinema world out there. So what you think about it. OT or PT? While I'm at this, I think you should definately check Adywan and his fan edits. There is still just A New Hope: Revisited out there though. He takes bloody long to make them but it's worth the wait. Been waiting years for ESB: R now. https://www.facebook.com/swrevisited http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-BATTLE-OF-HOTH-CLIP-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/9060/ |
| pittrek 05.05.2013 14:04 |
I'm a fan of the OT, that's why I'm so angry that there's no official release of the theatrical cuts. At least we have Harmy's re-creations and the 35mm project... Can I ask who you are on OT.com ? |
| Chief Mouse 05.05.2013 14:14 |
Prequels are garbage in comparison. Sadly, I don't think Lucas will ever release unaltered Star Wars in a proper release. Also, I am not quite active on there. I think I once created an account. But I'm not as die hard to participate in their discussions about Star Wars. Though if I would be seeking advice on technical video stuff I'd probably go there. So yeah, I'm more of a lurker. Been waiting for Ady's ESB: R since 2009. I think the last statement was that it would release this summer? Lately haven't caught up much. |
| waunakonor 05.05.2013 14:21 |
I'm cautiously pumped up for the new movies coming out, because based on what I've seen from J.J. Abrams, particular the new Star Trek stuff, I'm fairly confident he won't screw them up. OT or PT? Why is that even a question? |
| Chief Mouse 05.05.2013 14:24 |
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| john bodega 05.05.2013 23:31 |
The Disney ones could really go either way. On the one hand, JJ Abrams made an awful Star Trek movie that would've qualified as a decent Star Wars ripoff if he'd had the presence of mind to simply change all of the names of the characters. We know he can direct Star Wars - he did it in 2009, basically. On the other hand, that might signify a lack of ability to stick to a damned brief; so his version of Star Wars might merely wind up being a massively mismatched ripoff of something else, like what happened with Star Trek. I'm just going to wait and see. |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.05.2013 06:42 |
The opening scene of Ep. III was awesome. Having said that, the OT beats the prequels into a bloody pulp. For my views on latter-day Lucas in more detail, see South Park. |
| mooghead 06.05.2013 09:09 |
Should I start a poll about Queenzone being a starwars free zone? It is very, very ordinary at best..... |
| Vali 06.05.2013 09:48 |
pittrek wrote: I'm a fan of the OT, that's why I'm so angry that there's no official release of the theatrical cuts. At least we have Harmy's re-creations and the 35mm project... Can I ask who you are on OT.com ? wow Peter, just discovered those thanks to your post. Will download them for sure ! Who knows, with George Lucas out of Lucasfilm, maybe we'll have the untouched versions officially released at last. Very much like when Brian & Rog are out of QPL, we'll have ... ;) |
| john bodega 06.05.2013 12:50 |
It strikes me as the easiest thing Disney could do to make a quick buck and make themselves popular with fans - put the proper versions out on Blu-Ray. A guy can dream! |
| Vali 07.05.2013 03:41 |
yeah, I agree 100%. after downloading yesterday Harmy's Ep IV revision and having seen how stunning it looks, I believe Disney should do it, much sooner than later ! It'd be a winner release right from day one. |
| The Fairy King 07.05.2013 04:59 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: The opening scene of Ep. III was awesome. Having said that, the OT beats the prequels into a bloody pulp. For my views on latter-day Lucas in more detail, see South Park.I wanted to make the SP reference as well, their commentary is pretty spot on. |
| pittrek 07.05.2013 05:47 |
Vali wrote:Be sure to get the LATEST version of E4, every new version looks better and betterpittrek wrote: I'm a fan of the OT, that's why I'm so angry that there's no official release of the theatrical cuts. At least we have Harmy's re-creations and the 35mm project... Can I ask who you are on OT.com ?wow Peter, just discovered those thanks to your post. Will download them for sure ! Who knows, with George Lucas out of Lucasfilm, maybe we'll have the untouched versions officially released at last. Very much like when Brian & Rog are out of QPL, we'll have ... ;) |
| Vali 07.05.2013 07:33 |
pittrek wrote:yep ! that's the one I got ! V2.1, right ?Vali wrote:Be sure to get the LATEST version of E4, every new version looks better and betterpittrek wrote: I'm a fan of the OT, that's why I'm so angry that there's no official release of the theatrical cuts. At least we have Harmy's re-creations and the 35mm project... Can I ask who you are on OT.com ?wow Peter, just discovered those thanks to your post. Will download them for sure ! Who knows, with George Lucas out of Lucasfilm, maybe we'll have the untouched versions officially released at last. Very much like when Brian & Rog are out of QPL, we'll have ... ;) |
| inu-liger 17.05.2013 00:36 |
"Anyone like Star Wars?" The man on the street thinks Freddie doesn't |
| waunakonor 17.05.2013 14:13 |
But he does! On a somewhat relevant note, Star Trek came out in America today! I'm excited! |
| waunakonor 17.05.2013 14:15 |
mooghead wrote: It is very, very ordinary at best.....I don't usually like making arguments based on how much money something made, but the original Star Wars has to have done something right in order to be the second highest grossing movie of all time (adjusted for inflation). Also, *did. |
| YourValentine 19.05.2013 05:35 |
Imo the original Star Wars movie was - at the time - a piece of genius in cinema history. For the first time science fiction and ancient tales and archetypes were combined to a unique movie world. Nothing like it had been seen before, the sheer novelty of the experience is hard to imagine today. The fans of course loved the whole trilogy. In comparison the prequels are late, uninspired spin-offs, nothing special in the vast variety of todays movies. I can imagine that people who saw the whole set of movies later in life have a different opinion but watching Star Wars for the first time in 1978 is unforgettable for me - and I am not a particular fan. |
| Mr.Jingles 19.05.2013 18:23 |
I never understood why there's so much hatred towards the prequels. Both trilogies had poor acting, and lame dialogue. And as far as annoying characters, Jar Jar was a pain in the ass, but even as a kid I found C3PO kinda lame. As far as storyline goes, I consider the original Star Wars: A New Hope to be the weakest of the 6. Too much predictability in terms of putting a fairy tale in space. Of course, the impact as far as film production and use of technology was huge at the time. Also the lightsaber fights suck on the OT. The only difference I see is that back when the OT was released it was easier for actors and producers to convince Lucas on how to make it better. On the PT, there were great scenes that he took out of the final cut of those movies, even though Rick McCallum begged him to put them on film. |
| waunakonor 19.05.2013 18:53 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Also the lightsaber fights suck on the OT.I disagree with most of what you said, but don't really want to explain why. Basically, I just enjoy the originals a hell of a lot more than the new ones. TPM in particular just sucks. However, you're particularly wrong there, and here's why: link Two guys swinging their laser swords at each other really fast doesn't interest me at all. Emotions interest me. |
| tomchristie22 20.05.2013 03:24 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Also the lightsaber fights suck on the OT.I get where you're coming from since I used to agree. However, while the duels with Darth Maul and between Skywalker and Kenobi are spectacular choreography wise, they're SO horribly devoid of emotion, or in fact anything beyond pure aesthetic appeal. Kenobi and Vader in the original Star Wars was pretty crappy, granted. Kind of nice visually really, but not in terms of movement - that was just dull. The lack of any music whatsoever killed it completely. However, V and VI more than make up for it in my opinion. Empire Strikes Back's lightsaber fight was so wonderfully climactic and dramatic, while still having story relevance and having had build up to it, unlike with Darth Maul, where it's just 'oh, this guy's meant to kill us because that's what he was told to do, we should kill him'. Luke and Vader in Return was even better, never fails to get my heart racing. The Emperor taunting Luke as he withholds but eventually succumbs to his anger and strikes Vader down brutally and mindlessly. I'd much rather see that clumsy and emotionally charged use of the lightsaber than any flawless gymnastic display of swordsmanship. |
| john bodega 20.05.2013 07:58 |
The choreography got worse as the prequels went on. By the time Revenge of the Sith came along I'm pretty sure they just gave up altogether. I'd go so far as to say it's some of the shittiest screen combat I've seen since Equilibrium. For anyone who might be scratching their head going "duhhh, the swords were moving pretty fast, wots your problem", you might want to go and watch a Liam Neeson movie called Rob Roy for some notes on what a good fight looks like. |
| tomchristie22 20.05.2013 08:21 |
I haven't seen Revenge of the Sith since it came out, so that explains my poor recollection. I do recall them traversing pretty much every possible sort of situation within the constraints of the 'lava planet' setting, before finally ending up on a little hill made of gravel. |
| pittrek 20.05.2013 12:29 |
link |
| waunakonor 20.05.2013 16:37 |
If anyone hasn't seen "Mr. Plinkett's" somewhat well-known exhaustive reviews on all three PT films, make sure you have a few hours to do nothing at all, go here and watch them. Hell, go watch ALL his reviews. They're really good, as long as you have a very good sense of humor and don't mind listening to a guy doing the same stupid voice for hours on end. |
| tomchristie22 21.05.2013 02:51 |
waunakonor wrote: If anyone hasn't seen "Mr. Plinkett's" somewhat well-known exhaustive reviews on all three PT films, make sure you have a few hours to do nothing at all, go here and watch them. Hell, go watch ALL his reviews. They're really good, as long as you have a very good sense of humor and don't mind listening to a guy doing the same stupid voice for hours on end.I'd recommend everyone all of Red Letter Media's stuff really, all very entertaining while still obviously very well informed in matters relating to cinema. |