| Mercuryking 02.05.2013 17:41 |
Did a version of these are the days, and NO it's not perfect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRuumKZxJso |
| inu-liger 03.05.2013 01:17 |
A little bit of sheep phrasing here and there (seriously you really got to work on getting rid of that!), still some flats in places (a little less emphasis on pushing your voice would help smooth it out - and cracking on "flow" @ 1:50 doesn't help), but better than your last "Nevermore" effort. Harmonies are surprisingly good, I hope you weren't using pitch correction to achieve that :-) |
| Mercuryking 03.05.2013 01:47 |
Well I'm getting to know my voice better for each day that goes so i think it's only a matter of time until i fix my flaws. Like I've said before, ive not been singing seriously that long, but its coming along. I would never use crap stuff like pitch correction, i rather have it real with some faults than doin stuff like that. But thanks, i recorded this real quick, maybe 45 mins and it only has a little reverb but that's about it. |
| Thistle 03.05.2013 16:52 |
I always wondered what Inu meant by "sheep-phrasing".....I listened to this, and now I know. It's not completely horrible, but I personally wouldn't keep listening if this was the offering you keep churning out. It's much better than your Nevermore effort, though. Again, it's nothing personal - if you're looking for true opinion, that's mine. |
| Mercuryking 03.05.2013 17:04 |
though this is nowhere near Freddies, it's better than all the other covers I've heard of this song, including George Michaels. It's in no way horrible. And by the way, no one is forcing you to listen either, you certainly have your right to not click on my links and you should, really. |
| waunakonor 03.05.2013 17:36 |
Mercuryking wrote: it's better than all the other covers I've heard of this song, including George Michaels. It's in no way horrible.I just listened to George Michael's cover and found that I actually like his version somewhat better than yours. This is the same arrogance people have been giving you shit about. People try to give you honest opinions and you dismiss them like they don't know what they're talking about. inu-liger and Thistleboy both gave you very constructive criticism and not attacking you at all. It's called an opinion; if you don't want bad opinions, don't ask for any at all. I can't really give you much since I don't know much about singing. I usually keep that in the shower, and occasionally in public if I decide I don't give a shit what people think about me. I just know what I like, and I have an opinion. Mercuryking wrote:And by the way, no one is forcing you to listen either, you certainly have your right to not click on my links and you should, really.He's clicking on the links because he's interesting in what you're working on and wants to give you feedback. Don't tell him to stop listening to you; like I just said, if you don't want opinions, don't ask for any. |
| Mercuryking 03.05.2013 17:50 |
He said that he wouldn't want to listen to stuff i do if they keep this quality so i only said, then don't click on the link anymore, problem solved. That is not constructive criticism. Look, call it arrogance but i only say what i personally think and if that is called arrogance, then so be it. I personally think it's the best cover version even though i could improve it. That you said that you thought George Michaels version was somewhat better says a lot i think. Cause a once great singer like him, was only somewhat better than me is quite good i would guess. Or? |
| inu-liger 03.05.2013 18:03 |
waunakonor wrote: It's called an opinion; if you don't want bad opinions, don't ask for any at all.Comment of the day ^ |
| Mercuryking 04.05.2013 10:15 |
Why don't you post a better cover version out there so we can compare :) |
| inu-liger 04.05.2013 18:27 |
Mercuryking wrote: Why don't you post a better cover version out there so we can compare :)No one's going to bother, because you are so arrogantly full of yourself to begin with. |
| Mercuryking 04.05.2013 18:56 |
No, you guys say it's that bad, then back it up with a better version then. Nothing arrogant about this if it's the truth. |
| inu-liger 04.05.2013 19:43 |
Bullshit. George Michael's version was way more vocally consistent. |
| Mercuryking 04.05.2013 20:26 |
I don't think Georges version is as good. |
| Gregsynth 04.05.2013 23:38 |
George Michael has better pitch. |
| Mercuryking 05.05.2013 00:36 |
Even if he has better pitch, still don't think it's better. It could also be that I have a higher voice than him. |
| john bodega 05.05.2013 02:22 |
I don't think anyone is in the mood to go to the effort of putting together a full song cover only to have you say at the end of it that yours is better; regardless of all of the poor breathing technique, pitch problems and whatnot. Besides which, yours is just a karaoke version - a cover is when you do the instrumental as well. Get on it, chap! |
| inu-liger 05.05.2013 04:09 |
Mercuryking wrote: Even if he has better pitch, still don't think it's better. It could also be that I have a higher voice than him.Get over yourself |
| Mercuryking 05.05.2013 06:00 |
People that say stuff without anything backing up their claim are just people with empty words. That's you guys. If i genuinely thought something about something, i would try to prove my point in a fair way. But to claim stuff without actually backing it up with something just shows ur just talking out of ur asses. Zebonka: u know what i mean by cover, a version that is not the original one basically. And there is a little piano in the solo section so its not all karaoke :D |
| Thistle 05.05.2013 16:16 |
I was ready to reply when I realised that waunakonor has said it for me. If you post links, it's only natural to see whats being offered. It may be better than your last attempt, or then again it may be worse. There's nothing wrong with me clicking to find out. And, if you want opinion, then why not take said opinion? Not constructive? Of course it is. It's not my fault that the general concensus is that your output is poor. Telling you that it's not good enough to keep listening to IS constructive - it tells you you need to improve. There's no point in challenging folk to do better, either - I, for one, don't claim to be a singer. You, however, do. Therefore, the onus is on you to provide, not for your target audience to deliver better. You have mellowed a lot over the years, but there is still a sense of delusion about your posts: if all the feedback you receive here does not match your expectation, you just tell us we're wrong, you're right, and we're just haters. The opinion of the masses far outweighs yours - surely that tells you something??? |
| Mercuryking 05.05.2013 16:48 |
Funny that you think that I'm not good enough to be calling myself a singer. You this easy singing this stuff? Not even Roger can do it and hes a professional singer. George Michael couldn't either do it correctly. I think i did the closest to the original in terms of signing it like Freddie did, so i think i can call myself a singer. Regarding clicking on my link, i said that, if you think its that bad, then nobody is forcing you to listen to it, right? That's what i meant, don't listen to stuff that i make cause it will only suck anyways as you people always say. Nothing is ever good enough for u people, at least not when it's from me and really, i couldn't careless how much you people try to downplay my stuff, as it has been proven all these years, that nothing really can stop me from doing what i think is good. Just that, one would think that at some point, maturity would strike this place but apperantly it never does.. |
| Thistle 05.05.2013 17:31 |
Practice what you preach. Also, read properly - I've never claimed to be a singer. Why still issue the challenge? And how can I know it's bad unless I've clicked on the link? Think before you talk! |
| Mercuryking 05.05.2013 17:42 |
Seriously, if you think that this was bad then you really shouldccheck your ears. |
| Thistle 05.05.2013 19:38 |
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz My ears used to be good. Then you polluted them. Perhaps I'll sue? |
| Thistle 05.05.2013 19:39 |
It's not just me who thinks your rendition is bad. And why don't you answer the questions posed? Are you a politician? Better that than a singer, I suppose. Do one. |
| waunakonor 05.05.2013 20:08 |
Mercuryking wrote: Seriously, if you think that this was bad then you really shouldccheck your ears.As Thistleboy just said, it's not just him that thinks your rendition isn't that great. An insane person doesn't think he's insane; he thinks everyone else in insane. I'm not trying to imply that you're mad, I'm just saying that if you have one opinion and everybody else has a very different opinion, perhaps you should put a good deal of weight into what other people are saying rather than what your own undoubtably biased ears are telling you. That is, of course, assuming that you're making these to please other people, which you clearly are since you're posting links to them for anyone to listen. Mercuryking wrote: Not even Roger can do it and hes a professional singer.Roger's version is beautiful! I'm sorry, I really don't mean any disrespect, but your cover isn't even close to what Roger was doing last year. |
| Thistle 05.05.2013 20:44 |
waunakonor, this guy from tranquilliser-villa or whatever they're called is a cretinous troll. I think we've fed him enough :p |
| Mercuryking 05.05.2013 21:00 |
Amazing, Rogers version is miles away from the original. He has no real tone in his voice, it sounds hollowed. Exactly what is so bad with my version? Not too much if you ask me. But yeah, if you really think Rogers version is beautiful then i understand why you think mine is bad cause i don't think Rogers is good at all, sorry. We have different taste apperantly. |
| inu-liger 05.05.2013 22:19 |
Mercuryking wrote: Exactly what is so bad with my version? Not too much if you ask me.Have you ever been diagnosed with narcissism?? Go get professionally assessed for that, please! Unless you are intentionally being a troll otherwise. We gave you the answers already, we told you EXACTLY what is wrong with your performance, and you are choosing to ignore it. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU EVEN ASK AFTER THE FACT?!!? |
| john bodega 05.05.2013 23:28 |
There's nothing wrong with Roger's version! What the hell did I just walk into? I have to tell you, for someone with such highly inflated opinions about himself, you really do lack ambition. Why the fuck don't you just take a deep breath and try the song again? A guy told my boss that he needs a 'better guitarist' the other day, but you don't see me in a flap about it. So what? It was a rough gig, I was recently bereaved, the guitar was being a pain - this and that and blah blah blah. It doesn't matter; if someone who's listening isn't happy, then you need to try harder. Better luck next time. Try again! Etc. Etc. |
| Mercuryking 06.05.2013 02:14 |
So let me get this straight, if i actually think this is good and disagree with you people, then I'm a narcissist? Why don't you just fuck yourself for saying that now won't you? I wonder who's the narcissistic dictator here, if someone actually has their own opinion, they are psychopaths? You my friend are an total retard. Zebonka might actually be the only one that is most normal here strangely enough. |
| john bodega 06.05.2013 04:36 |
"Zebonka might actually be the only one that is most normal here strangely enough" See, I've been trying to tell people this for years. But man, seriously - it might help you to adjust your interpretation of negative criticism. The way I try to look at it these days is that if people don't like what I'm doing, the easiest thing for me to do is just try harder next time. If they're full of shit or just being nasty, then my next thing will still be alright. If they're right, then my work does need to improve, so I have to try harder to make that happen. It might not be the best attitude to have, but it's a work in progress on my part. |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.05.2013 05:22 |
Mercuryking wrote: So let me get this straight, if i actually think this is good and disagree with you people, then I'm a narcissist? Why don't you just fuck yourself for saying that now won't you? I wonder who's the narcissistic dictator here, if someone actually has their own opinion, they are psychopaths? You my friend are an total retard.No, you're a narcissist because you claim everyone who doesn't like it is a moron and because you dismiss all constructive criticism offhand. |
| Thistle 06.05.2013 06:56 |
^ what he said. You really need to get over yourself: like I say, the never-ending plethora of negative comments far, far outweigh the one positive (ie your own). That means your version is categorically, undeniably, cast-iron, set-in-stone, stonewall, outright, pure and utter, rancid shit. On the flip side, the positives regarding Roger's version outweigh your one, single negative. Do you see the pattern? It's not really cool to go around name calling, but you, my friend, are an asshat. If there is anyone around here who is retarded, then undoubtedly, the mantle is yours! Good day to you, sir! |
| Thistle 06.05.2013 07:03 |
^ Don't know what happened to the formatting there lol :) |
| Mercuryking 06.05.2013 07:35 |
Zeb i get wat ur saying, thing is. In my opinion this was better than my nevermore but people here still claim its crap and that's not warranted at all so thats not the problem here, it doesn't matter how good i do it, fckers still complain so i just take their opinions as nothing. And again, besides from a one or two small misses, i think my these are the days is pretty good no matter what you people say. I have my own ears, i can judgE if it were that bad or not. Comparing it to Freddies cause Freddies is obviously the best and mine is not all to far behind. Thistle: you have to be a retard callin this shit, a big retard. I completely disagree with. I think Rogers version is way out of pitch and you claim im so sucky in the pitch, then wtf is his then? Your opinion don't matter if you think his version is more in pitch and all around better causr i know it ain't. And i would've said this even if it wasn't me who did it. |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.05.2013 09:12 |
And there you go again: everyone who doesn't think you're second only to Freddie Mercury is "a big retard". Of course you think it's great, you recorded the damn thing. If *you* didn't think it was great, that would really be awful. But you have to be willing to listen to criticism, consider it very carefully (which is not the same as taking it all to heart), and use it to improve yourself. If you can't or won't do that, you are not cut out for art of any kind. So far, you refuse to take up any of the serious constructive criticism that comes your way, and therefore, you open the door to verbal abuse. You've really brought every little bit of that on yourself. |
| Mercuryking 06.05.2013 09:57 |
Thomas: Stay tuned cause i will show everyone of you why i think im second to Freddies version. You guys will have a hard time disputing it.. stay tuned in a couple hours... |
| Chief Mouse 06.05.2013 10:07 |
Well, you are clearly way better than me and maybe some others around here. But being next to Freddie Mercury is probably far-fetched. |
| The Fairy King 06.05.2013 10:32 |
Mouse Rapist wrote: Well, you are clearly way better than me and maybe some others around here. But being next to Freddie Mercury is probably far-fetched.George Michael (and Lisa Stansfield) did an amazing job. Can't believe he's pissing all over that by comparing himself with that performance. |
| Thistle 06.05.2013 10:33 |
Mercuryking wrote: Thistle: you have to be a retard callin this shit, a big retard. I completely disagree with. I think Rogers version is way out of pitch and you claim im so sucky in the pitch, then wtf is his then? Your opinion don't matter if you think his version is more in pitch and all around better causr i know it ain't. And i would've said this even if it wasn't me who did it.Oh dear! Well, please show me where, oh where, I said that you were lucky in your pitch? I'll accept the claim I'm retarded if you can prove those words! But we both know I didn't, so again I'll ask you to practice what you preach, and STAY TUNED. All I'm pointing out is that the opinion of the masses outweighs your own, self-centred, biased opinion. You're outnumbered, umpteen to one. GET OVER IT. And don't tell me my opinion doesn't matter, when you asked for it in the first place. I have the ability to recall what is being said in an argument, and can construct a fair, balanced one - you can't even get simple facts right, even when its easy to reply with quotes on this site. Now, I'm not going to resort to a name calling retaliation, but you can read into that final paragraph what you want. |