| Queen fan 30.04.2013 02:21 |
The most original musical artists ever in British Music history are Queen and Kate Bush. And two songs, Killer Queen and Babooshka have so much in common, yet are both so unique to any other forms of music around at the time. They have no musical style other than their own. This is what made Queen and Kate Bush so UNIQUE, their music was not based upon American Rhythm and Blues like all the other well known "pop" stars, they seemed to actually invent their own musical styles in a way that made them stand out from the rest. Bohemian Rhapsody and Wuthering Heights are another and perhaps the best example of this, they have to be the most original pieces of music ever in modern British music History. It is true that David Bowie was original ,yet he relied so much on fifties american doo-wop rock no roll styles, even in his earliest and most celebrated work, to inform and inspire him. But Bohemian Rhapsody and Wuthering Heights are truly the most unique pieces of modern english music ever , and it for this reason I highlight Queen and Kate Bush as truly the most original artists in British music, ever. David Bowie being the best collector or creative thief ever, which is true in the respect that he could use musical styles and make them so original sounding you missed their origin, unlike the Rolling Stones for example. This had a lot to do with his musical brilliance, but also like Queen and Kate Bush, his unfake choice of english vocals, rather than american impersonation. Bowie's earlier work though is in the same class of uniqueness, especially his hunky Dory Album, but then he did trail off into the world of Americana, which incorporated doo wap harmonies and rock no roll riffs, which is the greatest ever use of them, don't get me wrong. But it is the total originality of both Bohemian Rhapsody and Wuthering Heights, as pieces of music, that are of such a magnitude of uniqueness that they cannot be ignored, and rightly deserve their place as the most original pieces of modern english music ever. Kate Bush later went onto being more experimental like Bowie later did , with her experimental work The Dreaming, which like Bowie's Berlin "Heroes " album was totally unique in it's style also. Yet out of all three artists, Queen David Bowie and Kate Bush, taking all her work into consideration, Kate Bush ends up the most unique and self inventive of the three , consistently so. Maybe it is because she is a woman and women can be strangely different? Name me any woman classical Composer of great fame in the times of Beethoven. |
| mooghead 30.04.2013 13:38 |
Never has anyone said so much without actually saying anything at all.... |
| Ron 30.04.2013 13:39 |
mooghead wrote: Never has anyone said so much without actually saying anything at all....You clearly do not know any of my colleagues at work. |
| GratefulFan 30.04.2013 13:49 |
mooghead wrote: Never has anyone said so much without actually saying anything at all....Sniff. Thanks Mooghead. That was so kind of you. I don't deserve it. Sniff. :) |
| ANAGRAMER 30.04.2013 19:46 |
It's the improper use of paragraphs, full stops and commas Does nobody know how to punctuate these days? :-)) |
| ANAGRAMER 30.04.2013 19:46 |
It's the improper use of paragraphs, full stops and commas Does nobody know how to punctuate these days? :-)) |
| ANAGRAMER 30.04.2013 19:46 |
Posting twice, that's annoying too! |
| Soul Brother 01.05.2013 02:41 |
And use of a colon, hyphen and two brackets at the end of your text for no apparent reason! Doh! |
| ANAGRAMER 01.05.2013 11:44 |
Soul Brother wrote: And use of a colon, hyphen and two brackets at the end of your text for no apparent reason! Doh!Got a sense of humour, have we? |
| ANAGRAMER 01.05.2013 11:49 |
Soul Brother wrote: And use of a colon, hyphen and two brackets at the end of your text for no apparent reason! Doh!And starting a sentence with a conjunction but. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 12:42 |
Double post, blame ANAGRAMER. Anyway, I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that I have seldom seen so much uniformed bullsh*t as in topic starter's post. Bowie relied on "doo-wop harmonies"? Disregarding for a moment that the I-vi-IV-V progression of doo-wop wasn't original ("Blue Moon", anyone? That was 1934!), where does Bowie even use that progression? All bands other than Queen and Kate Bush based their songs on rhythm and blues? Seriously, what the fuck? Magna Carta, The Incredible String Band, Van Morrison are r&b now? TS's knowledge of music and music history is disturbingly lacking. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 12:42 |
Queen fan wrote: Name me any woman classical Composer of great fame in the times of Beethoven.Jane Mary Guest Amélie-Julie Candeille Charlotta Seuerling They were all very famous at the turn of the 19th century, their fame lasted to well after their lives, and their works are still performed and studied. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:17 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:They are not famousQueen fan wrote: Name me any woman classical Composer of great fame in the times of Beethoven.Jane Mary Guest Amélie-Julie Candeille Charlotta Seuerling They were all very famous at the turn of the 19th century, their fame lasted to well after their lives, and their works are still performed and studied. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:21 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Double post, blame ANAGRAMER. Anyway, I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that I have seldom seen so much uniformed bullsh*t as in topic starter's post. Bowie relied on "doo-wop harmonies"? Disregarding for a moment that the I-vi-IV-V progression of doo-wop wasn't original ("Blue Moon", anyone? That was 1934!), where does Bowie even use that progression? All bands other than Queen and Kate Bush based their songs on rhythm and blues? Seriously, what the fuck? Magna Carta, The Incredible String Band, Van Morrison are r&b now? TS's knowledge of music and music history is disturbingly lacking.bullshit i am right you are just argumentative and wrong. Bohemian Rhapsody and Wuthering HEIGHTS ARE THE TWO MOST ORIGINAL MODERN SONGS IN ENGLISH MUSIC EVER!! That was my posts point and so Queen and Kate Bush have to be THE MOST UNIQUE and orginal artists ever because they wrote those songs. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:25 |
virtually everyone else was influenced and writing songs influenced by AMERICAN MUSIC EXCEPT FOR FOLK SINGERS WHO MADE UP THEIR MUSIC BASED ON FOLK SONGS. But even David Bowie was influenced by Rhythm and Blues as was Led zep just copying blues stuff and making it harder rock and then Bowie was influenced by velevet underground etc elton john american music influence also. but Queen and Kate Bush sounded unique whatever their influences their music was their own sound and theme.Marc Bolan sounded unique also and he was doing that before david bowie and Marc Bolansounded american influence, i mean you could hear its influence but with Queen and Kate Bush you could not hear the influence their sound was unique. ELO had a unique sound but their sound didnt sound as pure even though it was orginal, it still had americanised influences but Queen and Kate Bush they did sound totally unique and those two songs boheman rhapsody and wuthering heights specifically were totally unique and very english. even pink floyd sounded american in their bass lines and beats in fact they sounded like ELP sometimes who also sounded american. procul Harlem sounded very american and they ripped off classical music for that song they did. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:32 |
You are talking from your ass, as usual. You suddenly declare three major early 19th century female composers as "not famous" just because you, in your near-universal ignorance of music, haven't heard of them. You refuse to answer my question regarding your blatantly stupid remark about doo-wop harmonies: where did Bowie ever use a I-vi-IV-V progression? |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:34 |
Also, are you really so stupid that you really don't know that folk music was a major inspiration behind most of the music of the late '60s and '70s? And are you also completely unaware that American folk music was largely based on English and Scottish folk music? |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:34 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: You are talking from your ass, as usual. You suddenly declare three major early 19th century female composers as "not famous" just because you, in your near-universal ignorance of music, haven't heard of them. You refuse to answer my question regarding your blatantly stupid remark about doo-wop harmonies: where did Bowie ever use a I-vi-IV-V progression?no i am talking to an ass. Thanks for reminding me. end of subject i am right you and you are an ass. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:36 |
Queen fan wrote: procul Harlem sounded very american and they ripped off classical music for that song they did.Are you just insanely stupid, or are you high on something? You can't "rip off" classical music - classical music is music written according to the rules of classical harmony. At worst, you can rip off a specific classical composition. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:37 |
Queen fan wrote:And you wonder why nobody likes you, or even gives a damn what you have to say?thomasquinn 32989 wrote: You are talking from your ass, as usual. You suddenly declare three major early 19th century female composers as "not famous" just because you, in your near-universal ignorance of music, haven't heard of them. You refuse to answer my question regarding your blatantly stupid remark about doo-wop harmonies: where did Bowie ever use a I-vi-IV-V progression?no i am talking to an ass. Thanks for reminding me. end of subject i am right you and you are an ass. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:37 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Also, are you really so stupid that you really don't know that folk music was a major inspiration behind most of the music of the late '60s and '70s? And are you also completely unaware that American folk music was largely based on English and Scottish folk music?that has nothing to do with the topic you idiot ofcourse it was and european also mostly as they were all germans and northern europeans mostly not english but my point stands as usual. i dont post crap like you. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:37 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Also, are you really so stupid that you really don't know that folk music was a major inspiration behind most of the music of the late '60s and '70s? And are you also completely unaware that American folk music was largely based on English and Scottish folk music?that has nothing to do with the topic you idiot ofcourse it was and european also mostly as they were all germans and northern europeans mostly not english but my point stands as usual. i dont post crap like you. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:39 |
Queen fan wrote:Germans and Northern Europeans? Christ, you're a sad little moron. linkthomasquinn 32989 wrote: Also, are you really so stupid that you really don't know that folk music was a major inspiration behind most of the music of the late '60s and '70s? And are you also completely unaware that American folk music was largely based on English and Scottish folk music?that has nothing to do with the topic you idiot ofcourse it was and european also mostly as they were all germans and northern europeans mostly not english but my point stands as usual. i dont post crap like you. Also, as you have evidently completely failed to notice, not a single "point" of yours stands. You've just demonstrated that you know absolutely nothing about music. Nothing. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:39 |
i don't wonder why anyone does or does not like me i couldn't give a toss either way. I just like posting something decent into this stupid forum to make it half worth reading. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:41 |
Queen fan wrote: i don't wonder why anyone does or does not like me i couldn't give a toss either way. I just like posting something decent into this stupid forum to make it half worth reading.You've never posted anything worth reading here. All you've posted is incoherent crap demonstrating how utterly clueless you are with regards to music and even more insane conspiracy theories. You belong in a mental institution. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:42 |
i know that bohemian rhapsody and wuthering heights are the most unique pieces of modern English music ever. Glad i gave you a few minutes of purposeful respite from your dulness now end of subject. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:47 |
You don't even know what doo-wop is, and you expect to be considered an authority on music? How old are you, 13? Again, where did Bowie use doo-wop harmonies? Give me just ONE example. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 13:49 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:Only a Psychopath would think and say such thingsQueen fan wrote: i don't wonder why anyone does or does not like me i couldn't give a toss either way. I just like posting something decent into this stupid forum to make it half worth reading.You've never posted anything worth reading here. All you've posted is incoherent crap demonstrating how utterly clueless you are with regards to music and even more insane conspiracy theories. You belong in a mental institution. without knowing that. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 13:56 |
psychopath: Psychopathy (/sa?'k?p??i/) is a personality disorder identified by characteristics such as a lack of empathy and remorse, criminality, antisocial behavior, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, impulsivity, and a parasitic lifestyle. It sounds like you fit the bill. Except for the superficial charm bit, I see none of that. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.05.2013 14:00 |
Much of this song seems to have been written (ok, plundered...) specifically for Queen fan: link |
| Queen fan 03.05.2013 04:12 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Much of this song seems to have been written (ok, plundered...) specifically for Queen fan: linkDefinition of the Psychopath and the Psychopathic behaviour of Thomas Quinn (psychology) An emotionally immature individual characterized by pronounced defects in judgment and prone to impulsive, generally amoral or antisocial behavior. link it describes you actually. |