QueenZone discussion #1344810
Brian's views on 'The Voice'
| cmsdrums 28.04.2013 12:37 |
If you've read his most recent soapbox update, you'll see Brian ripping into the TV 'search for a singer' type show, 'The Voice'. Yes, he's entitled to his opinion, but in my view his thoughts are still very much coloured by the fact that Kerry Ellis went on the show last year but was not selected (and quite rightly so in my opinion based on her poor song choice and average performance of it). in my view, The Voice has far more integrity than the X Factor or Idol shows, which at audition stage are no more than a modern day equivalent of a Victorian freak show, and are purely and solely aimed at finding an artist who can be manipulated for profit, and judged in part by peopke with no musical background. If he watchd The Voice properly he would realise that whilst it is 'just a TV show', it is at least judged by people who know their stuff, never resort to derogatory comments or nastiness against those taking part, and if the first series is to go by, it actually looks to find a true 'artist'. And to suggest Tom Jones is effectively being hoodwinked into taking part in this (for the second series in a row!) is really fairly disingenuous. The Voice also features a working live band for every artist rather than pre recorded backing tracks like Idol etc... The fact that Queen have appeared on one of these shows and not the other does, I suggest, tell us more about Brian than the morals of the show he is now bashing with all he can muster. |
| Mr Mercury 28.04.2013 14:08 |
Brian apparently has missed the point of this show, which is simply that the contestants are judged by their voice, not by what they look like - that is why the judges have their backs to them. And yes, I think he is just pissed off the Kerry never got through on last years series. |
| AlbaNo1 28.04.2013 14:29 |
Its basically the same format as the X Factor apart from the extra gimmick of the judges/mentors spinning round in the chair. Maybe not as bitchy as the X Factor. But still sh!t. |
| brENsKi 28.04.2013 16:32 |
he wan'ts to check the dosage on his "anti-hypocrisy" pills...cos they ain't fucking working remember April 25, 2012 10:17 PM Dr May? it's when YOU appeared on American Idol...and "performed"....that's you endorsing the fucking concept...almost one year ago to the day but for those who forget some of Doctor May's rapidly changing opinions...how about this: from straight after the performance "AMERICAN IDOL - QUEEN EXTRAVAGANZA" "it went pretty well, we felt, we had a lot of fun tonight, and having fun is a big part of it you know. It felt like a very interactive experience, we wer eonly on for 40 seconds...but it was the best 40 seconds of my life, what can i say" and "we like them a lot, they're all dedicated....i enjoyed all their interpretations" |
| Sheer Brass Neck 28.04.2013 20:57 |
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| Sheer Brass Neck 28.04.2013 20:58 |
The Voice is a talent show. American Idol is a talent show. They're both popularity contests, who gives a toss if the judges look at you. |
| horse feathers 28.04.2013 21:10 |
Kerry Ellis vocally does absolutely nothing for me, yet Freddie, Roger and Brian's voices all do, that is one of the reasons we are all fans, isn't it? Also Paul Rodgers does it for me too, especially his live performances, sometimes they astound me, with his range, power, control and interpretation. Roger and Brian also went on the British version of X-Factor too, even after Roger had written C-Lebrity, which I found very cringeworthy. I do however respect their decision to hire Adam Glambert on the basis of the deaf audition they must have held for him? The Dr. really does annoy me as a person, however great a guitar player, songwriter and vocalist he actually is, or perhaps once was. What a clown. Do you think we should badger him more for this outburst? |
| Adam Baboolal 28.04.2013 22:23 |
Yeah, I too, have to chime in on this one. The Voice, for me, is the first show in a long time that truly wants to hold the people auditioning, in fairly high regard. No ridicule of a performer for their looks or their style of singing, and generally, just a nice vibe between judges and auditionees. I had the misfortune of seeing some of Britain's Got Talent (with singers) the other week and by god...it was incredibly demeaning to those up on stage. This kind of programme, coming from the same "Cowell camp" as The X-Factor, Brian should wonder why he's really attacking The Voice. And yes, while dismissive of the idea initially, I too, have started to think that his post today has more to do with the whole Kerry Ellis incident from last year's Voice audition. Sad, but probably true. Adam. |
| philip storey 29.04.2013 05:02 |
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| philip storey 29.04.2013 05:07 |
After seeing Brian and Kerry on their recent tour ,in my humble opinion Kerry has a beautifull voice.It was only a small venue in Corby ,but at the end of the show the crowd went wild. |
| cmsdrums 29.04.2013 07:19 |
philip storey wrote: After seeing Brian and Kerry on their recent tour ,in my humble opinion Kerry has a beautifull voice.It was only a small venue in Corby ,but at the end of the show the crowd went wild. I'm sure it was a good show and I'm glad you enjoyed it, but in my opinion she could have farted down a cardboard tube and the crowd would still have gone wild. Thst isn't a reflection on Kerry's vocal abilities by the way, more a comment on a certain element of Queen fans! |
| john bodega 29.04.2013 09:45 |
I haven't seen any international versions of The Voice, so I'll have to just judge it by the Australian version. It's pants. Pure and simple, it's complete bullshit. It serves to give regular income to a few washups who serve as judges, and going by previous shows (X-Factor, Idol, and 'Got Talent') they're not actually scouting for future recording artists - they're just trying to find presenters for upcoming talent shows that haven't aired yet. I'm not even kidding; you're a lot more likely to see an ex-contestant shilling for one of these talent contests than you are ever likely to see them at one of their own gigs. It's a very thinly disguised, self-contained and self-sustaining ecosystem. I understand that it's useful exposure for anyone who goes on the shows, and I haven't got a thing against your average contestant - more power to them. But the actual institution itself is glaringly shallow. The thing that shits me the most is Brian. I wonder what he'd be saying about The Voice if Kerry "We're Just Good Friends" Ellis had actually done well on the show instead of being shot down? He'd say what everyone else says when they feel like they backed the right horse - 'it's so nice to see a talent show that actually cares about the talent!' Right. |
| David Jones 29.04.2013 13:18 |
I expect to see a Queen special featuring Brian & Roger and a fresh Greatest Hits later on this year then. |
| brENsKi 29.04.2013 17:00 |
then i "expect" your chances of disappointment will be less than zero |
| guild93 30.04.2013 00:49 |
I just watched hear appearance on the Voice (I never knew she was on it before), she was 100 times better than the garbage we get on the Aussie version! |
| mercurialsinger 30.04.2013 17:52 |
I hear accapella groups sing every week and they make all competitive music shows obsolete. |
| Makka 30.04.2013 22:25 |
I never realised you were a fellow Perthite! But yes, I agree with you and Brian 100%. All these shows are total crap and do nothing for me at all.
Zebonka12 wrote: I haven't seen any international versions of The Voice, so I'll have to just judge it by the Australian version. It's pants. Pure and simple, it's complete bullshit. It serves to give regular income to a few washups who serve as judges, and going by previous shows (X-Factor, Idol, and 'Got Talent') they're not actually scouting for future recording artists - they're just trying to find presenters for upcoming talent shows that haven't aired yet. I'm not even kidding; you're a lot more likely to see an ex-contestant shilling for one of these talent contests than you are ever likely to see them at one of their own gigs. It's a very thinly disguised, self-contained and self-sustaining ecosystem. I understand that it's useful exposure for anyone who goes on the shows, and I haven't got a thing against your average contestant - more power to them. But the actual institution itself is glaringly shallow. The thing that shits me the most is Brian. I wonder what he'd be saying about The Voice if Kerry "We're Just Good Friends" Ellis had actually done well on the show instead of being shot down? He'd say what everyone else says when they feel like they backed the right horse - 'it's so nice to see a talent show that actually cares about the talent!' Right. |
| john bodega 01.05.2013 01:44 |
What shits me is that we all know what a massive fiddle they are, to the point of being basically rigged in some cases - we get it. The saving grace of the shows is that they can serve purely as a device for gaining exposure. Fair enough, but if Brian's willing to use them in that way (as he has in the past) then I don't really understand his unrealistic expectations of the shows on an artistic level. I mean, just how much laudanum is the good doctor drinking in his garage these days? There's a great video of him listening to (or should I say 'enduring') a performance of some 'orrible kid on X-Factor a few years ago - he's doing an undeniably pedestrian job of singing Somebody to Love (and in a lower key, too) and Roger and Brian are just standing there nodding as if it's a great thing. Awkward. Brian - if you're willing to go on these shows, you're part of the problem. I can't understand this one-foot-in-the-stirrup attitude he has about music these days. All I'm really saying is that he should just put another solo album out. |
| 3Dasha 01.05.2013 02:12 |
Is it me, or Brian mentioned his dislike of the Voice before Kerry's perfomance on it? Also, here's Brian's point which wasn't mentioned here before(from Bri's Soapbox, of course): 'When we sing, or play, for real, we are NOT screaming at the top of our lungs trying to persuade someone to notice us.' I understand his point. There already were talks, that geniuses like Bob Dylan, or even Brian himself won't win such a show. Because it's created for narrow type of vocals, aforementioned 'screaming at the top of our lungs'. Hell, even Freddie's live perfomances were rougher than his studio ones, so I can imagine him being surpassed by somebody not so powerful emotionally, but technically flawless. |
| gerry 01.05.2013 02:25 |
To be honest i too hate "The voice" i sat and watched 15 minutes worth and couldnt take any more of the rubbish, the judges made my stomache feel sick, will.i.am is a complete knob, and tom jones, should be at home in his slippers, what does he know about modern music? The auditions are truly dreadfull and what hacks me off is the amount of people coming on the stage with acoustic guitars, it tells me, im in for a boring 4 minutes. Brian is right to slate the show, its crap, and dont forget the Beeb were very anti Queen in the 70s and 80s so maybe he is getting even with them, good for you Brian! |
| SimonFerocious 01.05.2013 02:41 |
I auditioned for the X-Factor and got through the first round but my voice went from waiting outside in the cold for hours and from pushing my voice too hard. I was relieved in a way as the further you went in the competition, the more of your life you had to sign away to Simon Cowell and I didn't want that. If you sang a song you'd written during the auditions, Simon Cowell owned that song forever after that (if you didn't agree to that, you didn't go further in the competition). The Voice is a much more humane show and they go out of their way to be kind to the performers. |
| 3Dasha 01.05.2013 04:32 |
SimonFerocious: If you sang a song you'd written during the auditions, Simon Cowell owned that song forever after that (if you didn't agree to that, you didn't go further in the competition) What the hell! I didn't know about this. There should be some respect for the authors. If somebody wonders what's wrong with modern music, ask big men and global corporations. It's not about art, it's all about exploitation and recycling. Haha, I get really ranty. |
| Mr Mercury 01.05.2013 07:59 |
3Dasha wrote: SimonFerocious: If you sang a song you'd written during the auditions, Simon Cowell owned that song forever after that (if you didn't agree to that, you didn't go further in the competition) What the hell! I didn't know about this. There should be some respect for the authors. If somebody wonders what's wrong with modern music, ask big men and global corporations. It's not about art, it's all about exploitation and recycling. Haha, I get really ranty.The way Cowell sees it, is that he has given you the platform to show your talents off and in return he gets to own your stuff. And that, imo, is totally wrong...... |
| GratefulFan 01.05.2013 09:24 |
If you read his actual criticism of the show it's based not on the reality competition format in general but the very specific feature of the Voice where the judges are facing away from the singers at the initial auditions. It's a pretty over the top assessment of an approach/gimmick that he doesn't seem to understand. As it was the first time he bashed it, it is hard not to conclude he's having a personal reaction to having his songbird rejected, along with his taste and judgement. |
| horse feathers 01.05.2013 10:05 |
Gratefulfan, you are right in what you say. When I first heard SSOR when it came out, I didn't have a clue who Queen where, or what they looked like. I knew I loved the song, I was 7 at the time. Then I saw them doing Killer Queen on top of the pops, in 1974, I still didn't know who they were, I asked my Dad if Freddie was Mick Jagger, haha, I won't tell you his reply. Surely it's about the voice and music, isn't it? Also if they hadn't done the IWTBF video, maybe they would have been able to tour USA again? Brian has lost the plot, completely. |
| GratefulFan 01.05.2013 11:13 |
When I was younger I worked at a pizza restaurant for a few years. When I applied there was a list of 8 things that we had to rank in order of importance to the restaurant business. The list included things like ambiance, price, service, food etc. It was a trick question of sorts: the things were listed in reverse order to what had been determined to be the right answer. In retrospect it was utterly clear. Of course the food is the most important, followed by service. The other things enhance the experience but without good food served well you won't have a restaurant for long. Similarly a great song with the emotion and power carried in the vocal delivery is the heart of what makes music compelling. Live music is wonderful, of course, but reading Brian's rant one would wonder how he imagines he sold all those millions of records without personally serenading us at our windows. |
| Queen fan 01.05.2013 12:16 |
Roger and Brian were contestants on AMERICAN IDOL a few years back. |
| horse feathers 01.05.2013 12:23 |
Contestants? Oh yeah, you are correct, I've just asked the contestants in my Hotel. |
| cmsdrums 01.05.2013 13:27 |
3Dasha wrote: Is it me, or Brian mentioned his dislike of the Voice before Kerry's perfomance on it? He did comment a couple weeks before her performance was AIRED, but LONG after it had been filmed and he knew that she had been refused. He was trying to pull the wool over people's eyes into thinking her result, and his opinions on the show, were unrelated! |
| brENsKi 01.05.2013 13:48 |
Brian's biggest problem is a simple one - and it applies to almost every human being on the planet: the more principled the individual becomes, the greater the risk of contradicting themselves and looking like a humungous hypocrite to boot |
| GratefulFan 01.05.2013 13:50 |
cmsdrums wrote: He did comment a couple weeks before her performance was AIRED, but LONG after it had been filmed and he knew that she had been refused. He was trying to pull the wool over people's eyes into thinking her result, and his opinions on the show, were unrelated!I agree that there was an element of manipulation. I'd even go so far as to wonder if her participation on The Voice wasn't a marketing ploy for the stuff they were doing together that thoroughly backfired. Given how close they were working together when she would have auditioned I find it impossible it's not something they would have discussed as at the very least her participation would have impacted her availability for other stuff. Given how much they've collectively embraced marketing by public involvement via vehicles like American Idol, X-Factor, Queen Extravaganza and the solicitation of public kisses for the Kissing Me video for example I would not rule it out. Which makes his savaging of it now more than a little dishonest. |
| GratefulFan 01.05.2013 13:54 |
brENsKi wrote: Brian's biggest problem is a simple one - and it applies to almost every human being on the planet: the more principled the individual becomes, the greater the risk of contradicting themselves and looking like a humungous hypocrite to bootHe's principled, but he's principled in a very narrow and rigid way that sees him toss out a hell of a lot of other pretty good principles to steam roll over whatever the hell he likes in the world according to Brian May. Not everybody who cares to some degree about being principled conducts themselves that way. |
| Missreclusive 01.05.2013 18:37 |
lol..he calls the Voice a "vile programme" interesting.. turning your backs to someone performing is awful...so says BM. Well, it is called "The Voice" ..therefore, they are choosing who gets on based on their voice. It's pretty simple and in fact, the one here in the USA is ok. I have watched it and there's a lot of talent on that show. Idol pales in comparision...not to mention the judges on the voice are pretty current and entertaining. |
| Donna13 02.05.2013 09:40 |
I think you people have become desensitized as to what is rude and what is normal because of the proliferation of "entertainment" that relies on the frequent moments of embarrassment or total humiliation of people, as if this is how it has to be. If they (the creators of these shows) were not out to publicly humiliate people in order to entertain the audience, then the blind listening of voices or the open auditions with the judges rolling their eyes and giggling or saying horrible things (Simon Cowell) would be done off camera and all we would see is the final group - those who made it past the rejection phase. I think you didn't understand Brian's point, therefore you are making stuff up about his motivation. I don't think he objects to finding new talent, but just the unkind manner of these types of shows. He has been consistent with that opinion because it is his honest reaction. |
| GratefulFan 02.05.2013 09:53 |
Holy Stepford. |
| brENsKi 02.05.2013 12:09 |
no one forces anyone to participate. people are greedy by nature - and their 15 minutes of d-list fame is better than nothing - if nothing else, it'll keep them in drinks in the pub when they tell other winos "i was on the x-factor you know" the concept of the shows is not at fault, the delusional views of people and their so-called friends and families are what's at fault think about it: you sing for friends/family - these people either have reality issues of what's shit/good or hearing issues, or they are just incapable of telling a loved one "sorry this ain't for you|" |
| Donna13 02.05.2013 13:34 |
Sure, there are plenty willing to go on the shows. But these shows are designed to pull in the largest audience with an edited and tweaked version of "reality". If it were really real, people would probably perform and hear a "thank you", then those who were chosen would have their names posted. But that would not showcase all the human emotions and reactions (although there would be plenty of behind the scenes stuff that would be interesting). So, yes, I would say it is the format of the shows that is unkind, and that is my interpretation of Brian's comments on the subject over the years. |
| brENsKi 02.05.2013 13:53 |
it may have been "unkind" the first season it went out. but beyond that EVERYONE knows the score. there is no excuse for abject stupidity - you know what the show's about - why go on it. it's not like they keep it a secret - 9 million people see it every saturday in the UK...so you can't say "bloody hell i was shocked, they made me look pathetic" if you go on those shows - EVERYTHING that happens to you afterward is your own doing |
| tero! 48531 02.05.2013 14:07 |
Donna13 wrote: I don't think he objects to finding new talent, but just the unkind manner of these types of shows. He has been consistent with that opinion because it is his honest reaction.Maybe it's just me but if I objected to a a particular television show, I wouldn't watch it, let alone perform on it to boost the ratings. It painfully obvious that Brian has absolutely no problems with these shows as long as they are benefiting him in some way, but he's willing to change his "honest reaction" the minute the the shows AREN'T working in his favour. |
| Donna13 02.05.2013 14:40 |
He appeared as a mentor or performer towards the end of the shows, when all the finalists were talented, and they could have arrived at this stage of the competition without using the cruel tactics of the first few weeks of the show. So, he was not involved with the humiliation of the contestants, which is the part he objects to. Maybe he realizes his complaints will not make any difference in the format of these shows, but feels the need to express himself on the topic anyway. That is why he calls it a soapbox - to express his opinion. He is not running a campaign against the shows but just expressing what he doesn't like about their format. Similarly, those who criticize Brian do not announce that they will no longer listen to Queen. |
| brENsKi 02.05.2013 16:54 |
sorry Donna, but you're either for or against a principle Brian can't say "it's ok i like this concept now you've stopped taking the piss" the show is ALL of it warts n all - his selective approval of the bits that benefit him is nothing short of hypocritical |
| GratefulFan 03.05.2013 07:19 |
If Donna's description of "the part he objects to" were factual and not a seeming Stepford fairy delusion I would agree with her wholeheartedly. The record on "the parts he objects to" however is well far from that. For years he savaged the shallow celebrity culture of these types of shows to the point of building an entire musical with his band's name around that concept. He explicitly and often insulted the shallow '15 minutes of fame' motives of the contestants in abstract and when he wanted to compliment the talent and integrity of some other artist he two or three times presented them as the anithesis of the X-factor contestant to make his point. They even wrote a song about it for the Cosmos rocks. He stated in an interview that the shows were not about artistic worth but about self promotion, most of all the self promotion of the Simon Fuller types. The *only* time he has spoken positively about the format is when he's been on it (for self-promotion) and the only times he's come to anything like a defense is when contestants have sung Queen songs. Imagine spending years rattling on about empty pseudo-culture and then not just defending, but complimenting and thanking the Jedward twins for singing his song. The blind auditions on The Voice have *nothing* to do with cruelty. Nobody reaches that stage without fully deserving to be there and nobody is ever humiliated beyond what they may feel about not succeeding. The format of identifying, mentoring and personally investing in the talent of artists that inspire a judge is in fact directly comparable to what he's doing with Kerry Ellis. To explicitly insult the dignity of Tom Jones for participating on The Voice is a bit rich considering there is a reasonable chance that the UK is awash in Kerry Ellis because Brian May would most fondly like to be in her pants. I've avoided that to this point because I think it's insulting to the integrity of both artists and potentially terribly unfair but for a number of reasons I have developed doubts. Regardless, suggesting Brian objects to the 'rudeness' of these shows without appearing to notice how unconscionably rude *he is* much of the time doesn't get much more Stepford. I think the world of Brian on many fronts and in many ways, but I think love and respect should come with a realistic view of a person's flaws for it to be real and worth much. There are plenty of people who know exactly what time it is on this subject. Every fan is if course welcome to an opinion, but ideally not off the backs of people who have "misunderstood" Brian's points, as they most certainly have not. |
| Donna13 03.05.2013 11:04 |
"sorry Donna, but you're either for or against a principle Brian can't say "it's ok i like this concept now you've stopped taking the piss" the show is ALL of it warts n all - his selective approval of the bits that benefit him is nothing short of hypocritical" I can understand your point but rather than saying he is being hypocritical I would characterize it as having mixed feelings. Going back as far as his 2005 comments regarding Rock Star INXS, he was rooting for the WWRY talent doing well in the competition, however he thought the show was degrading and embarrassing to the contestants and the band and thought the voting for the new lead singer was unnecessary because the band could just have held auditions in private. But I think he realizes that the potential (or opportunity) for exposure of a huge TV audience (with these types of shows) can be an advantage. |
| tero! 48531 03.05.2013 12:42 |
Donna13 wrote: "Going back as far as his 2005 comments regarding Rock Star INXS, he was rooting for the WWRY talent doing well in the competition, however he thought the show was degrading and embarrassing to the contestants and the band and thought the voting for the new lead singer was unnecessary because the band could just have held auditions in private.So... In principle he's against the show, but he likes it as long as it's a promotional tool for his musical. And you don't call that hypocritical? |
| Donna13 03.05.2013 13:29 |
Well, I think the show was not a promotion for WWRY, but rather for INXS and the individual contestants. I guess a couple of the WWRY stars made the cut because they were talented enough to be in the running to be the new lead singer for INXS. And due to the similarities of INXS and Queen (both missing a lead singer), Brian was asked if Queen would also be doing that show. So that was why he was commenting on it. Also, since the contestants were his friends (people he had worked with in the WWRY shows) he was watching the show to see how they were doing. |
| e-man 04.05.2013 03:53 |
I have never watched these things, apart from mere snippets online, but isn't the only difference between american x idols factor and the voice that the 3 guys with the buzz have their backs turned to whoever is on stage? Ultimately, the humilation is still the same :) I find it weird that Brian slags off shows like these. Queen's third lead singer was lifted from a show like this, and he has no trouble appearing on them. How many times has been on one of these by now? 4-5 ? I find it hypocritical to say the least I wish more people in the business would speak up like Bruce Dickinson has done: link |
| GratefulFan 04.05.2013 10:13 |
At the blind audition stage The Voice is significantly different from the format of the other shows. No artist makes it to that stage without being well deserving and well equipped for a public chance at moving on, so there is NO predatory American Idol style humiliation of people who are not sufficiently talented. Because of the blind aspect, and because it's only in turning around that a judge has a chance to have the artist on his or her team, it is the only format I am aware of that puts pressure on the judges to use their ears and hearts and artistic instincts in a way that directly challenges their abilities and visions relative to each other. If more than one judge turns around it's the judges that have to sell themselves to the artists as the artist chooses whose team to join for mentoring. As such it is the only format I am aware that puts the artists on a level playing field with each other and puts artists who have really achieved in their blind auditions on a level playing field with the judges. In short, blind auditions are exactly the opposite of what Brian May claims they are. It has nothing to do with 'condescending' to turn around. He clearly either doesn't understand the purpose and actuality of the program or has deliberately elected to choose an interpretation that allows him to indulge his extremely selective and usually self serving moral outrage because Kerry got up and shouted a shitty version of a classic song and quite rightly didn't get through. It simply can't be missed that the only time he tempers his excoriating rampages is if Queen, Queen songs, Queen musicals, actors in Queen musicals or some other self interest is involved. I don't doubt for a second that he genuinely hates the idea of regular people being humiliated and rejected by people in the industry who have made it. It is obviously very important to his self definition to be accessible and real and not above other creatures on the planet, both human and animal. He has walked the walk on this for years through his animal rights work, through being accessible to fans on the Soapbox and in my view even through choosing collaborations with people who are otherwise easy to dismiss for segments of the masses. However credit for intent can only go so far before reality should take over in informing perceptions. It is exceedingly typical for him to have a very, very narrow view of right and wrong and to be seemingly unable to find empathy or complexity for anybody or anything not directly up his own nose. It's a significant flaw in my eyes - only child syndrome hopelessly complicated by rock star syndrome - and using a public voice to be so incredibly rude and destructive to the motives and reputations of situations and people he can't be bothered to understand deserves nothing but rejection in my view. Ironically the first time he insulted 'The Voice' he wrote "Well, if you ever see ME sitting on a panel, acting like I think I'm God Almighty, and making demeaning remarks about fellow musicians, you have my permission to shoot me." In the most recent rant he effectively does just that: sits on a panel of one on the internet and makes a bunch of directly and indirectly demeaning remarks about fellow artists on a program he clearly can't or won't represent fairly. There is little to respect in people going out their way to find excuses for any of it, and as I've said before in the context of his badgerism the Stepfords do him no favours in supporting his frequently uninformed and rotten behaviour. |
| GratefulFan 04.05.2013 10:20 |
And btw he shouldn't have been worrying about 'the dignity' of INXS. They ended up with JD Fortune and an ace album and an ace tour with a front man that absolutely sizzled and fit like a glove. They ended up with Adam fracking Lambert. The former process was organic, even if the cameras were rolling, and the latter conceived and staged by some dim music executive no doubt. |
| john bodega 05.05.2013 02:19 |
He was awful! |
| Dubroc 05.05.2013 09:07 |
Here's another man's oppinion on those tv shows: “When I think about kids watching a TV show like American Idol or The Voice, then they think, ‘Oh, OK, that’s how you become a musician, you stand in line for eight fucking hours with 800 people at a convention center and… then you sing your heart out for someone and then they tell you it’s not fuckin’ good enough.’ Can you imagine?” he implores. “It’s destroying the next generation of musicians! Musicians should go to a yard sale and buy and old fucking drum set and get in their garage and just suck. And get their friends to come in and they’ll suck, too. And then they’ll fucking start playing and they’ll have the best time they’ve ever had in their lives and then all of a sudden they’ll become Nirvana. Because that’s exactly what happened with Nirvana. Just a bunch of guys that had some shitty old instruments and they got together and started playing some noisy-ass shit, and they became the biggest band in the world. That can happen again! You don’t need a fucking computer or the internet or The Voice or American Idol.” - Dave Grohl |
| GratefulFan 05.05.2013 17:21 |
And how many times has Dave Grohl appeared on American Idol/X-Factor/The Voice to promote his album/tribute band/musical? |
