deleted user 14.04.2013 21:47 |
Are there any recent (like in the last 5 years) pictures of Mary Austin's grown sons, Richard and Jamie? Any news of what has become of them, i.e., occupations, marriages, hobbies such as art? I recall reading that they were privately educated while growing up. I would love to know more about them. |
master marathon runner 15.04.2013 02:27 |
You cheeky bugger! |
pma 15.04.2013 02:59 |
Shouldn't this be in personal, those kids have zero relation to Queen as a band. |
inu-liger 15.04.2013 03:11 |
Agreed pma |
Holly2003 15.04.2013 04:56 |
funkyrake wrote: Are there any recent (like in the last 5 years) pictures of Mary Austin's grown sons, Richard and Jamie? Any news of what has become of them, i.e., occupations, marriages, hobbies such as art? I recall reading that they were privately educated while growing up. I would love to know more about them. Here you are: http://queensparksupportersfc.webs.com/carryonscreaming_66.jpg |
cmsdrums 15.04.2013 06:30 |
Why on earth would you want to know this? Very strange....... |
brENsKi 15.04.2013 12:40 |
the OP has gone into disturbingly intrusive territory. this is way way way beyond the pale, the privacy of ALL non-celebs should be respected - everyone is entitled to a private private life. -even the 1998 Human Rights Act says as much anyone wanting to know personal information about non-celebs is a stalker of the nosiest order - and a c*nt to match. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 14:20 |
Disgusting, would you like photos of your kids to be viewed by people you don't know, Funkyrake? |
GratefulFan 15.04.2013 14:32 |
One of them is in uni and the other one was made up. |
deleted user 15.04.2013 17:17 |
Why? Because Freddie named Mary as his true friend, his common law wife, and the heir of his fortune. Mary gave Freddie the status of God Father to Richard and it was obvious that he cared and really enjoyed Richard's presence at Garden Lodge. Richard and Jamie grew up in one of the most famous homes in the world-Freddie's. Richard and Jamie were privately schooled (?), and may have acquired a special talent or skill that might be interesting. What do they look like? Do they play an instrument, sing, draw, paint? I am a HUGE fan of Mary's and love to know credible things about her. She is very much a Queen family member, and her sons seem interesting to me since they were surrounded by Freddie's memory everyday of their lives. Finally, I don't care for the abuse on queenzone. |
inu-liger 15.04.2013 17:42 |
Sorry, but I have to agree with the others, this is past borderline stalking. Besides, I don't think anyone here seriously knows what's going on with Austin's family. She was a very private person to begin with especially after Freddie's death. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 17:48 |
Funkyrake or Fuckingsnake? I think the normal people have decided, now crawl back under your stone. |
deleted user 15.04.2013 17:51 |
Well if its past borderline stalking, why was the same question asked of John Deacon's son? Luke's fb page was given. I don't see the difference at all. I think Richard was probably the closest child to Freddie at the time of his death. Also, I am in California, a new Queen fan, and wanting learning about the Queen family. I have never been outside of the US past the Canadian border, and never attended a Queen concert. I am not a stalker, I do not care about Richard and Jamie's personal life beyond special accomplishments and photos of them. For all I know, they may be awesome, or they may be boring. If any news of them exists, great. If not, that's ok. |
deleted user 15.04.2013 17:51 |
Remarks on this post are over the top immature and rude. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 17:56 |
John Deacon's sons are musicians and have posted things on various sites. Which we are interested in, all though we don't want any photos of them, we just want to hear and discuss their music. When Mary's sons record an album and go public with it, you can no doubt listen to it. Until then, sort your life out. |
bobbyo 15.04.2013 17:56 |
I'm not quite sure how you can be a "HUGE fan" of Mary Austin. |
deleted user 15.04.2013 17:57 |
horse feathers wrote: Disgusting, would you like photos of your kids to be viewed by people you don't know, Funkyrake?Excuse me? The galleries are full of pictures. Richard and Jamie are not little baby/children, folks. They are in their 20's, grown adults on their own. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 17:58 |
And? |
deleted user 15.04.2013 18:00 |
horse feathers wrote: John Deacon's sons are musicians and have posted things on various sites. Which we are interested in, all though we don't want any photos of them, we just want to hear and discuss their music. When Mary's sons record an album and go public with it, you can no doubt listen to it. Until then, sort your life out.My life is fine, thank you. Regarding your disinterest in photos of the Deacons, I don't think so. The postings come with photos. Come off your old tired ethics |
deleted user 15.04.2013 18:02 |
brENsKi wrote: the OP has gone into disturbingly intrusive territory. this is way way way beyond the pale, the privacy of ALL non-celebs should be respected - everyone is entitled to a private private life. -even the 1998 Human Rights Act says as much anyone wanting to know personal information about non-celebs is a stalker of the nosiest order - and a c*nt to match.Potty mouth will get you no where. |
deleted user 15.04.2013 18:03 |
Holly2003 wrote:Are these pictures of yourself and your twin?funkyrake wrote: Are there any recent (like in the last 5 years) pictures of Mary Austin's grown sons, Richard and Jamie? Any news of what has become of them, i.e., occupations, marriages, hobbies such as art? I recall reading that they were privately educated while growing up. I would love to know more about them.Here you are: http://queensparksupportersfc.webs.com/carryonscreaming_66.jpg |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 18:04 |
But the 'normal' people on here don't give a toss about their photos, just their music. This is Queenzone, which is about their music, not their looks, images, likenesses or photos. If you can't deal with that, I suggest you join Stalkerzone. |
GratefulFan 15.04.2013 18:05 |
It's not something that would interest most people but the outright abuse is hardly warranted. Mary posed for formal photos with her kids for that magazine spread and that does invite some attention to her family. |
GratefulFan 15.04.2013 18:11 |
funkyrake wrote:Don't be silly. Had Holly had a twin he would have karate kicked him in the womb, absorbed him and been done with it. Awesomeness needs space. :)Holly2003 wrote:Are these pictures of yourself and your twin?funkyrake wrote: Are there any recent (like in the last 5 years) pictures of Mary Austin's grown sons, Richard and Jamie? Any news of what has become of them, i.e., occupations, marriages, hobbies such as art? I recall reading that they were privately educated while growing up. I would love to know more about them.Here you are: http://queensparksupportersfc.webs.com/carryonscreaming_66.jpg |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 18:34 |
Oh, stop it guys. Funkyrake is getting frustrated, so how about we all just cool it. I highly doubt he's some kind of stalker or something. He just made the mistake of posting this question on a forum where being curious about anything related to Mary Austin is criminal. |
GratefulFan 15.04.2013 18:38 |
Unregistered. Another new user lost to completely unnecessary abuse over nothing. Well done. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 18:43 |
Gratefulfan, good riddance to bad rubbish. |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 18:47 |
horse feathers, you never even gave him a chance. You just kept attacking him. Like I said, he wasn't actually a stalker. He was just curious. God forbid he be curious about something. It's amazing that some of the same people who complain about this forum going to shit are mindlessly heckling potentially interesting contributors. Perhaps against my better judgement, I'd be willing to argue this all day if that's what you want. There was nothing "rubbish" about him. funkyrake, if for some reason you're still reading this, come back. We still love you. Some of us, anyway. Just don't worry about the hateful people; they really don't matter. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 18:49 |
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horse feathers 15.04.2013 18:50 |
waunakonor what is the path of Evermore? Sort that out ffs, will you, cos that annoys me too? |
GratefulFan 15.04.2013 18:52 |
horse feathers wrote: Gratefulfan, good riddance to bad rubbish.No. You reliable bullies ought to get a grip. You're hardly so scintillating that you make up for all the people you drive away and the conversations you destroy. Not by half. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 18:58 |
GratefulFan... why do you sound like David Brent? I've been a Queen fan since 74, saw them live 6 times, got everything they ever did, saw Roger live in 94... I just get annoyed at pricks that contribute nothing. Read my review of Queen at Elland Road 82 to see if I don't contribute. |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 18:58 |
horse feathers wrote: waunakonor, what is "The path of Evermore?" Sort that out for fuck's sake, will you, because that annoys me too.Ha ha, way to completely avoid what I'm trying to say. First of all, assuming you're correct, those two things are not at all the same thing. You just heckled a fellow human being to the point that he couldn't take it anymore, and you felt perfectly justified because you couldn't see his face so he could have just been some blob sitting in front of a computer screen. That's not annoying, that's just mean. Second of all, you have no idea what you're talking about because those lyrics on my signature are correct. Actually, they used to be wrong until brENsKi (who was unfortunately partially responsible for this whole mess) corrected me. So, are you going to say something about the topic or are you going to try to make more stupid subject changes? |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 19:00 |
horse feathers wrote: GratefulFan... why do you sound like David Brent? I've been a Queen fan since 74, saw them live 6 times, got everything they ever did, saw Roger live in 94... I just get annoyed at pricks that contribute nothing. Read my review of Queen at Elland Road 82 to see if I don't contribute.You contribute, but that doesn't mean you're not also a terrible person sometimes. funkyrake was contributing discussion and he got blasted for no good reason. You're still not making a very good justification for ruining someone's self-esteem like that. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 19:02 |
waunakonor - The song is called Nevermore, he sings 'Don't send me to the path of nevermore'. I can't help it if you are deaf and stupid. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 19:04 |
GratefulFan, He/she, was prying into non celebrities lives. Who have a right to annonymity, which is wrong.I'm not the only one that thinks that too. |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 19:15 |
I don't know, maybe I am wrong about Nevermore. I'll check that later, but you're still not getting the point.
horse feathers wrote: GratefulFan, he/she, was prying into a non-celebrity's life, who has a right to anonymity, which is wrong. I'm not the only one who thinks that too.Funkyrake wasn't "prying," he was being curious. "Prying" would be incessantly trying to contact Mary to get information out of her. As far as we can know, he is not doing that at all. There's precisely nothing wrong with being curious. He wanted to spark some discussion, seeing if anyone else was curious and/or knew anything and got blasted without getting a chance to properly defend himself. Let me repeat one more time: there is nothing wrong with being curious. Also, you might want to clean up your posts. Not only is the spelling and grammar horrendous, approaching unreadability, but it kind of reads like you're saying that a right to anonymity is wrong. I cleaned it up a bit for you, but it still sounds funny. You should try reading what you write before you post, since on the Internet you can do that. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 19:23 |
Wanker, my spelling and grammar is English, we invented the thing. Your lot just abuse it and redefined it cos Americans are stupid. I can still pick out a lyric though and quote it correctly, you can't. Have a nice day now, Wanker. Don't send me to Evermore though. The clue really was in the title of the song, wasn't it? Yet you couldn't see that? You can't drink alcohol on the street, but can carry a gun on the street in your country, kind of strange that, isn't it? Now leave me alone and annoy someone else. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 19:23 |
Wanker, my spelling and grammar is English, we invented the thing. Your lot just abuse it and redefined it cos Americans are stupid. I can still pick out a lyric though and quote it correctly, you can't. Have a nice day now, Wanker. Don't send me to Evermore though. The clue really was in the title of the song, wasn't it? Yet you couldn't see that? You can't drink alcohol on the street, but can carry a gun on the street in your country, kind of strange that, isn't it? Now leave me alone and annoy someone else. |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 19:40 |
horse feathers wrote: waunakonor, my spelling and grammar is English; we invented the thing. Your lot just abused it and redefined it because Americans are stupid. I can still pick out a lyric though and quote it correctly; you can't. Have a nice day now, waunakonor. Don't send me to Evermore though. The clue really was in the title of the song, wasn't it? Yet you couldn't see that? You can't drink alcohol on the street, but can carry a gun on the street in your country, kind of strange that, isn't it? Now leave me alone and annoy someone else.Well, now it's obvious you're not trying to be on topic. You're going everywhere EXCEPT the topic. You really don't know why I'm pissed off, do you? All my life I've had to deal with stupid people dismissing me and bashing me because I said and did things differently. At first it really hurt every time someone did it, but I've grown up and stopped caring when people did careless things like that to me. When I came here, I though we would have some decency because we all share a pretty important common interest, but that turned out to be naive, yet I still don't let mooghead's shameless attacks bother me. However, when I see people being so awful to another person in much the same way, and that person gets flustered in much the same way I used to and still gets attacked, I get pretty fucking angry because that evokes bad memories and causes me to wonder what it is in some people that makes them act this way. I'm feeling a little sick to my stomach right now, and that's not even a hyperbole. As for the English, I've never lived in England so I don't know exactly how UK English works, but I can tell you pretty confidently that some of your recent posts were pretty horrendous, and the bad grammar also led to the overall intent of the posts being ambiguous. You act like I made all those rules that we have in America about guns and shit. Hint: I had nothing to do with all that. It's just stupid people who have a lot more power than me who are afraid of having their precious guns taken away. Stop lumping all Americans into one group; I already get enough of that on here. Finally, about the Nevermore lyrics, I wasn't listening to the song when I wrote the signature, I was just using my memory, which evidently was a little faulty. That's my bad. Yet, who said a song title has to be contained in the song. Do you see the words "bohemian" or "rhapsody" contained anywhere in the song by that same name? |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 19:55 |
Wanker, didn't the title of the song 'Nevermore' give you a hint? The fact you hate England isn't a problem to me, give us our language back, stop raping it. Your lot dumb it down, so you can spell words and pronounce them incorrectly. As for your issues, maybe you are autistic? But that would be a no, no, as you can't remember things, like song titles. As for Mooghead? He hasn't posted on this stupid thread. But I trust Mooghead over you every day of the week, he is a good judge of character and also spot on in what he says, you, however, are not. |
Gregsynth 15.04.2013 20:01 |
This thread is ridiculous. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 20:05 |
Wanker, there is no such thing as UK English, it is simply called English. Australia, New Zealand and Canada have no issue with it, only your lot. 86% of Americans don't own passports, they believe the world starts and ends in America. You have no history, yet stole your land. Why did you keep putting my word 'prying' in inverted commas, as though it was spelt wrong, it wasn't? In 1997 after Diana Princess of Wales, or Lady Di as your lot incorrectly call her, died. The British Government changed the laws on privacy. England is in Britain, in case you didn't know, there are other countries in it too, but you wouldn't understand. So Mary's sons photographs wouldn't get published in a British newspaper, am I going over your head? |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 20:07 |
Yes it is Greg, but some prick keeps replying, sorry. |
Gregsynth 15.04.2013 20:16 |
Oh come on. Waunakonor is cool. I've met the guy in real life. I'm not gonna get into this argument at all, but I'm just saying that there's different dialects of English in the world (I got Skype contacts from Canada, England, etc), and there's words that I need to look up from time to time. Plus I try to steer clear of religious and political stuff and just focus on music-related stuff! |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 20:17 |
So are you going to respond to what I'm angry about or are you going to keep making random derogatory comments about Americans, almost all of which don't apply to me. I own a passport and I'm not responsible at all for the terrible things done to the natives. There IS a such thing as UK English and American English. They're not completely different languages, but they're different dialects. We just say some things differently.
The reason I put the word "prying" in quotes a couple times was because I was directly quoting you, and that's what quotation marks are for. You seemed to think funkyrake was prying information about Mary Austin. He wasn't prying anything, however, just answering a simple question. He did nothing to deserve the reaction he received.
Mooghead is sometimes helpful and informative, but lately his comments have been utterly immature, giving me shit for my polls and writing "faggots" on a thread and nothing else. That strikes me as kind of immature.
Gregsynth wrote: This thread is ridiculous.I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. It's just me and my friend here being stupid. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 20:34 |
Yeah Greg and I've heard your podcasts, laughing about the Works tour, which I went to 4 of the shows in a week. You was a baby then, wasn't you? English is English, end of, dialects don't come into it. It's the spelling and pronunciation that annoys me. Sorry for calling you Wanker, If you want to ask me something, I will reply, honestly. Cos I don't know what you are on about? |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 21:25 |
Greg hasn't been to any Queen concerts, but in the eight years he's been a fan he's acquired a ridiculous amount of knowledge on Queen's live career. He knows virtually everything except what it was like to actually be there. I'm sure he wishes he could travel back in time and attend a concert, as do I, but sadly we can't. Still, he knows enough to discuss the shows and laugh about him. Anyway, since it looks like you finally want to have a real discussion so that we can settle this, I'm going to pretend none of that mindless bickering from the last couple hours or so never happened. What I saw happen here was a well-meaning QZ user ask a simple question in order to spark some discussion. Now, even if his question had been utterly stupid, I still don't think he deserved the reaction he got. Some people seemed to have gotten the impression that he was stalking Mary. He wasn't; he was just asking a question. For his question, he got completely laughed off the board. He seemed really flustered and angry right before he quit, and that made me sad for him, yet the shitstorm didn't let up. To answer you, I guess I really don't know what I want from this. I just wish funkyrake could feel like be could come back and not be afraid of facing another mob, because he semed to be a friendly and interesting contributor, and this board needs as many of those as possible in order to stay somewhat interesting. Do you at least understand what I'm going on about? I guess I just think about things too much and I don't like the idea of seeing another human being as something with no value in the world, no matter how stupid or hateful. |
Queen fan 15.04.2013 21:27 |
wrote: Remarks on this post are over the top immature and rude.They are idiots ignore them As to your question no one knows and no one will For the reason these idiots are using against you They ,Mary's sons, are not celebrities. |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 21:34 |
Too little too late, unfortunately |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 21:42 |
waunakonor you banged on about me answering your issues, when I asked for them, you said you had forgotten them? Then you say, 'Too little, too late', You're not wrong there. As for the Queen tours, the Works tour was the best I went to, those that also saw them on that tour agree with me too. I went on the Hot Space tour and the Magic tour. The Works was the best, visually and sound wise. So for Greg to laugh at this tour, means I have no respect for him, either. For all the dreadful bootlegs you have of the tours, you can't see when Freddie was actually interacting with the crowd, thus not hitting G 6's or whatever the fuck that clown goes on about. |
Gregsynth 15.04.2013 21:43 |
horse feathers wrote: Yeah Greg and I've heard your podcasts, laughing about the Works tour, which I went to 4 of the shows in a week. You was a baby then, wasn't you?I don't have a podcast, but I've been on Queen-related Skype calls discussing the Works Tour. I don't know who was laughing, but there's at least 5-7 people on the Works Tour debate on Youtube. If I was laughing, I was probably talking about the weaker gigs on the tour (Wembley Arena, Dortmund, Munich, Paris, Vienna, 2nd Brussels, etc) and comparing them to much better gigs on other tours. I was only negative 7 during the Works tour era, so I wasn't exactly there! |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 21:55 |
Greg, I have heard you talking to Phoebe about the works tour, or Queenworks' as the tour was officially called. You kept asking him about Freddie's bad nights, laughing about them and pushing him. They announced 4 nights in England for that tour, I got tickets for all of them. Then they added two more dates, I couldn't get tickets for those. So I went to Birmingham on the Friday and laughed at the stage, before the lights came on and told my mates it wasn't a patch on the Elland road stage in 82. I felt such a fool when they came on. The stage was incredible, the videos do not do justice to that stage set, it was awesome. Freddie was on form on Friday and Saturday. Then I went to two shows at Wembley Arena, not sure of the days, but they were the origional ones they had planned. I didn't go to the birthday one, but I was there when Rick Parfitt joined them on stage. Freddies voice had got worse for these shows, but Wembley Arena is actually the coldest place on earth, anyone who has been there for a concert will tell you this. So Birmingham was better. But Wembley, I went with my cousin, who had never seen them before, he still says that's the best gig he has ever been too and he went on the Magic tour too, which was awful. So how dare you criticise the Wembley Arena shows? |
waunakonor 15.04.2013 21:55 |
...I wasn't talking about Greg for most of my last post. I was talking about funkyrake and how he got ridiculed. Re-read my post. The "too little too late," was directed at Queen Fan, who was telling funkyrake to ignore people even though he had already closed his account. |
Gregsynth 15.04.2013 21:56 |
horse feathers wrote: As for the Queen tours, the Works tour was the best I went to, those that also saw them on that tour agree with me too.Everybody has their favorite tour. Mine's the Crazy Tour. I went on the Hot Space tour and the Magic tour. The Works was the best, visually and sound wise. So for Greg to laugh at this tour, means I have no respect for him, either.The Works does arguably have the best visual/lightning rig. That I can completely agree with. However, have you heard any of the shows from the tour? There's some REALLY weak shows (and unfortunately they have great audio). For all the dreadful bootlegs you have of the tours, you can't see when Freddie was actually interacting with the crowd, thus not hitting G 6's or whatever the fuck that clown goes on aboutI've got plenty of decent/great-sounding audio from the tour (courtesy of this site), and can paint a picture of the shows very well. Listening to a show to judge it is far more accurate than being there (you're all caught in the atmosphere). I saw Rush back in 2008 (Snakes And Arrows Tour), and it was fantastic--and I thought Geddy sounded amazing (although I wasn't paying attention to the vocals). When I checked the bootleg recording a day later, I heard Geddy struggle throughout and miss notes left and right (I didn't notice that at the actual show). I didn't really care though, I had fun and that's what counts. |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 22:04 |
Have I heard any shows from the tour..... well I went to four of them, you do the math, Greg. Bootlegs are awful, and I've heard a lot, got many on vinyl too, from the 70's. As they don't replicate my two ears, I treat them with the contempt they deserve. Cassette recorders, like they used in those days to bootleg, couldn't even record of the radio properly. |
Gregsynth 15.04.2013 22:29 |
horse feathers wrote: Greg, I have heard you talking to Phoebe about the works tour, or Queenworks' as the tour was officially called. You kept asking him about Freddie's bad nights, laughing about them and pushing him.That was an impromptu late-night Skype session. Peter absolutely loved it and we've made contact at the Breakthru convention and we talked about Queen's live career as a whole. That was the first time I've ever talked to the man (the Skype thing), so there was a bit of that nervous/anxious energy. He did help me with the Sun City mystery (about the shows and Freddie losing his voice during that timeframe). Nowadays, I can paint a picture of exactly what happened with Freddie's voice during the tour (back then I was trying to get all the info I could and piece them together). They announced 4 nights in England for that tour, I got tickets for all of them. Then they added two more dates, I couldn't get tickets for those. So I went to Birmingham on the Friday and laughed at the stage, before the lights came on and told my mates it wasn't a patch on the Elland road stage in 82. I felt such a fool when they came on. The stage was incredible, the videos do not do justice to that stage set, it was awesome. Freddie was on form on Friday and Saturday.The 1st Birmingham show is a great show overall. That's one of my favorite shows from the tour. I can only see the video and pictures of the lights and stage, but I'm with you on the "incredible" part. The atmosphere must have been awesome. Then I went to two shows at Wembley Arena, not sure of the days, but they were the origional ones they had planned. I didn't go to the birthday one, but I was there when Rick Parfitt joined them on stage. Freddies voice had got worse for these shows, but Wembley Arena is actually the coldest place on earth, anyone who has been there for a concert will tell you this. So Birmingham was better.The original dates were the 4th and 5th of September. The 7th and the 8th were added on (ticket demand). You caught them on the first Wembley show and the 7th (Rick Parfitt joined Queen on that night). Freddie and Brian mentioned the freezing temperature on the Wembley 1980 show. The Birmingham shows were much better overall (although the last Birmingham show is just about as weak as the Wembley shows). But Wembley, I went with my cousin, who had never seen them before, he still says that's the best gig he has ever been too and he went on the Magic tour too, which was awful.Which Magic Tour gig did he attend? There are some weaker shows on the Magic Tour compared with others, but there's not a gig to me that screams "awful" (even at Zurich where Freddie's voice is worn out-- the show still sounds pretty good). So how dare you criticise the Wembley Arena shows?I can criticise the shows all I want (especially when there's legit reasons to do so). Sorry if you're so offended at that, but that's what happens during a live tour. You'll get some great shows, and you'll get some shows that don't sound too hot overall. If you want an excellent show from the Works Tour, look at Stuttgart 1984 or that Tokyo 1985 gig (5/9/1985). Those are examples of all-around fantastic shows for the tour: Freddie sounds good, the band is tight, the quality is great (so everybody can hear everything), and the harmonies are good. |
Gregsynth 15.04.2013 22:31 |
horse feathers wrote: Have I heard any shows from the tour..... well I went to four of them, you do the math, Greg. Bootlegs are awful, and I've heard a lot, got many on vinyl too, from the 70's. As they don't replicate my two ears, I treat them with the contempt they deserve. Cassette recorders, like they used in those days to bootleg, couldn't even record of the radio properly.I know you went to four shows, but have you downloaded a show from this site, and listened to the audio? It's so much different hearing the show rather than being there or talking about it. There's some REALLY good audio from the tour (including a soundboard), not all the recordings are in bad quality. I highly recommend Stuttgart 1984 -- great show and great quality! |
horse feathers 15.04.2013 22:45 |
The Magic tour show we went to was Manchester. It truly was awful. I went to Elland Road as a 17 year old kid, on my own in 82. I have posted a review about that gig on here, you will find it I'm sure Greg. The first Birmingham gig was the best, without doubt. Freddie even handed out his microphone at one point, that's what all the screaming and shouting was on the bootlegg, they wouldn't give it him back too. I went on the saturday and cos they was doing Staying Power, I decided to go to the toilet, I swear that Freddie gave me a grimace as I walked down the row of seat to the toilets, haha. Wambley arena, boiling hot outside, absolutely freezing, inside. It's because it's really an Ice rink. At Elland Road, they came on when it got dark and I mean dark, not like the daylight at Milton Keynes, they got fined £5,000 per minute for that I believe. Also they hired houses and moved the residents out. They monitored the sound and said it was like Concorde flying 10 feet above you're head. I was about ten yards from the front of the stage, slightly to the left of centre. I was still deaf on the Sunday, the noise was that loud. Yet Freddies voice cut right through the noise, I can't explain it, but it just did. Listening to Live at the Bowl, with the treble turned right up, gives you that sound, yet the bass and kick drum, made you bounce. No HiFi can replicate that. So the Magic tour, they had to be off stage early, there was also noise issues they had to stick too. So you couldn't hear them and it was light for most of the concert. To me, the band were going through the motions, the highlight was me hearing ITLOTG live, which at the start, I hadn't a clue which song it was. Read my review of Elland Road, Greg, cos it really changed my life. Can you believe I couldn't get anyone to go with me? Cos as a band they were laughed at by people my age. BTW I'm from Manchester, so the Magic tour gig perhaps dissapointed me more for that reason? |
Gregsynth 15.04.2013 23:18 |
horse feathers wrote: The Magic tour show we went to was Manchester. It truly was awful. I went to Elland Road as a 17 year old kid, on my own in 82. I have posted a review about that gig on here, you will find it I'm sure Greg. The first Birmingham gig was the best, without doubt. Freddie even handed out his microphone at one point, that's what all the screaming and shouting was on the bootlegg, they wouldn't give it him back too. I went on the saturday and cos they was doing Staying Power, I decided to go to the toilet, I swear that Freddie gave me a grimace as I walked down the row of seat to the toilets, haha. Wambley arena, boiling hot outside, absolutely freezing, inside. It's because it's really an Ice rink. At Elland Road, they came on when it got dark and I mean dark, not like the daylight at Milton Keynes, they got fined £5,000 per minute for that I believe. Also they hired houses and moved the residents out. They monitored the sound and said it was like Concorde flying 10 feet above you're head. I was about ten yards from the front of the stage, slightly to the left of centre. I was still deaf on the Sunday, the noise was that loud. Yet Freddies voice cut right through the noise, I can't explain it, but it just did. Listening to Live at the Bowl, with the treble turned right up, gives you that sound, yet the bass and kick drum, made you bounce. No HiFi can replicate that. So the Magic tour, they had to be off stage early, there was also noise issues they had to stick too. So you couldn't hear them and it was light for most of the concert. To me, the band were going through the motions, the highlight was me hearing ITLOTG live, which at the start, I hadn't a clue which song it was. Read my review of Elland Road, Greg, cos it really changed my life. Can you believe I couldn't get anyone to go with me? Cos as a band they were laughed at by people my age. BTW I'm from Manchester, so the Magic tour gig perhaps dissapointed me more for that reason?I saw that Leeds 1982 review. Great read. Sorry that you didn't enjoy the Manchester show. It's kinda a shame that the "hometown" gig disappointed you. There are better shows on the tour (like the early gigs), so if wanna listen to a show from the Magic Tour--I highly recommend Leiden or Stockholm! |
Bad Seed 16.04.2013 05:09 |
Have you read Peter Hince's book Greg? In that he mentions the Works tour as being the best and the Magic tour as the worst. I have a few friends who attended shows as early as '74 and they say exactly the same thing. Suppose you did really have to be there. |
TheWorks84 16.04.2013 08:58 |
Gregsynth wrote: so if wanna listen to a show from the Magic Tour--I highly recommend Leiden or Stockholm!I really like the sound from the Mannheim 1986 show, one of my favourites from the Magic Tour. |
Gregsynth 16.04.2013 11:47 |
Bad Seed wrote: Have you read Peter Hince's book Greg? In that he mentions the Works tour as being the best and the Magic tour as the worst. I have a few friends who attended shows as early as '74 and they say exactly the same thing. Suppose you did really have to be there.It is different being at an actual concert rather than listening to it. I haven't read his book, so I don't know what he wrote about the tours. That's one of the reasons why I prefer reviewing/writing about a show via recording rather than going off the "concert atmosphere." It's far more objective and when you hear a show via recording, you can hear the entire band performance easier. |
brENsKi 16.04.2013 12:58 |
wrote:well i'm happy about that. because you're one person i'd rather no get anywhere with....what a horrible excuse you are.brENsKi wrote: the OP has gone into disturbingly intrusive territory. this is way way way beyond the pale, the privacy of ALL non-celebs should be respected - everyone is entitled to a private private life. -even the 1998 Human Rights Act says as much anyone wanting to know personal information about non-celebs is a stalker of the nosiest order - and a c*nt to match.Potty mouth will get you no where. Mary was NOT a celeb, her kids no matter what age - are not celebs yet either - therefore their privacy should be fully respected. one more thing - living 8,000 miles away does not make stalking impossible. cyber-stalking is a criminal offence also - let's hope you get caught, i'll say it again c*nt |
brENsKi 16.04.2013 13:06 |
waunakonor wrote: Greg hasn't been to any Queen concerts, but in the eight years he's been a fan he's acquired a ridiculous amount of knowledge on Queen's live career. He knows virtually everything except what it was like to actually be there.eight years!!!!!! f*cking wow. and when did you become his PR man? btw - i love the above comment - you've just (in one throwaway little comment) discredited the experiences of those who did see queen live - proper queen - ie 1973-1986....so thanks for belittling my 500% more experience than Greg's |
horse feathers 16.04.2013 13:14 |
Haha, I love you Brenski. These clowns that list things like The Works as their fave album and songs from the 80's as their favourite songs, make me piss. |
waunakonor 16.04.2013 13:35 |
...Aaaaaaannd the hate continues. We were doing well for a little bit there. Hey brENsKi, how exactly am I discrediting your experience? I'm not; I'm saying that if Greg wants to provide commentaries on Queen's shows he can. I'm not his PR agent, I just think he's a good guy so I'm trying to defend him. horse feathers, what does liking songs from the 80s have anything to do with anything? And finally, are we ever going to stop hating funkyrake for asking a simple question? |
Toon_86 16.04.2013 13:40 |
Is this what queenzone has become, 4 pages of bollocks? Can't we have a discussion about Mary singing AKOM in the bath or something? |
TheWorks84 16.04.2013 13:48 |
I love how people argue with each other on a bands forum page XD |
waunakonor 16.04.2013 13:58 |
This is nothing. If you have a few spare days to kill, go to the Personal forum and check out the Atheism thread. That's the major leagues of endless bollocks. Horse feathers and I couldn't possibly compete. |
Holly2003 16.04.2013 14:13 |
wrote:Actually I believe it's Jeremy Capone and Borat. They look very alike.Holly2003 wrote:Are these pictures of yourself and your twin?funkyrake wrote: Are there any recent (like in the last 5 years) pictures of Mary Austin's grown sons, Richard and Jamie? Any news of what has become of them, i.e., occupations, marriages, hobbies such as art? I recall reading that they were privately educated while growing up. I would love to know more about them.Here you are: http://queensparksupportersfc.webs.com/carryonscreaming_66.jpg |
GratefulFan 16.04.2013 14:44 |
^ lol! |
brENsKi 16.04.2013 15:34 |
waunakonor wrote: ...Aaaaaaannd the hate continues. We were doing well for a little bit there. Hey brENsKi, how exactly am I discrediting your experience? And finally, are we ever going to stop hating funkyrake for asking a simple question? there's no hate toward you - i have nothing against you - you interpret difference of opinion with hate? now that is strange because by saying: He knows virtually everything except what it was like to actually be there. by default you're implying that virtually everything is NOT going to a concert therefore by consequence actually attending a concert = virtually nothing and i don't hate funkywhatever...but i will stand by what i said - it wasn't a simple question. it's an intrusive request. and the polite, reasoned, correct thing to do when it's pointed out is to say "apols, i see now - it was wrong to ask" |
GratefulFan 16.04.2013 16:02 |
brENsKi wrote: and i don't hate funkywhatever...but i will stand by what i said - it wasn't a simple question. it's an intrusive request. and the polite, reasoned, correct thing to do when it's pointed out is to say "apols, i see now - it was wrong to ask"Right. Because the world is bound to the Brenski view of propriety and should apologize the moment you arrive to provide the 411. It was a simple question. A simple question about updated photos of two people that had previously been professionally photographed and splashed all over the public arena by their mother Mary Austin. It's not something that interested me, but it was something that interested somebody else. You want to pull this constantly but won't abide the complaints of other posters who get weary of you costing this forum contributors in the name of enforcing your arbitrary personal moral codes like they're international fucking law. |
GratefulFan 16.04.2013 16:05 |
waunakonor wrote: ...Aaaaaaannd the hate continues. We were doing well for a little bit there. Hey brENsKi, how exactly am I discrediting your experience? I'm not; I'm saying that if Greg wants to provide commentaries on Queen's shows he can. I'm not his PR agent, I just think he's a good guy so I'm trying to defend him. horse feathers, what does liking songs from the 80s have anything to do with anything? And finally, are we ever going to stop hating funkyrake for asking a simple question?You're doing a good job communicating important points on this thread waunakonor. You deserve more backup and I'd normally make sure you had it but I seem to be pinging from one QZ fight to another in recent weeks and I'm a bit worn out. :) |
bobbyo 16.04.2013 16:56 |
I have attended every Queen gig ever therefore nobody can have an opinion except me. |
brENsKi 16.04.2013 17:04 |
GratefulFan wrote:brENsKi wrote: and i don't hate funkywhatever...but i will stand by what i said - it wasn't a simple question. it's an intrusive request. and the polite, reasoned, correct thing to do when it's pointed out is to say "apols, i see now - it was wrong to ask"Right. Because the world is bound to the Brenski view of propriety and should apologize the moment you arrive to provide the 411. It was a simple question. A simple question about updated photos of two people that had previously been professionally photographed and splashed all over the public arena by their mother Mary Austin. It's not something that interested me, but it was something that interested somebody else. You want to pull this constantly but won't abide the complaints of other posters who get weary of you costing this forum contributors in the name of enforcing your arbitrary personal moral codes like they're international fucking law. that's the most bonkers reply possible. be honest for a change - instead of revisiting your one-person crusade against anything i say - if some stranger wanted photos of your kids you'd be the first to object. but don;t let the requests of the moral bankrupts get in the way of you doing the most important thing in the existence of humankind...ie stalking the sh*t out of me in some holier-than-fucking-thou mono-focused charge of the fucking shite brigade ps - fyi - the right to privacy for every individual IS FUCKING INTERNATIONAL LAW - or haven't you heard of the HUMAN RIGHTS ACT 1998...now get off my back. idiot |
waunakonor 16.04.2013 17:14 |
I must have forgotten the part where disagreeing with someone is considered "stalking the shit" out of that person.
It was not wrong for funkyrake to have asked anything. He was curious, nothing more, and he didn't deserve the backlash he received. I wouldn't expect him to apologize for asking a question. Yet, horse feathers kept hounding him until he just snapped and deleted his account because he couldn't take the abuse anymore. If I forced someone to go to that point, even if I hadn't met the person before I would feel like a pretty shitty human being, but it seems to me that horse feathers doesn't know such remorse.
Also, I don't have kids obviously so maybe I shouldn't be addressing this issue, but if someone asked for pictures of my kids I wouldn't be as freaked out as you seem to be suggesting. I might think it was a little weird, and I probably wouldn't fulfill the request, but I certainly wouldn't hound the person with post after post of hate-filled nonsense.
GratefulFan wrote:Thanks, I try. I'd be worn out too having to wade through all the shit splattered everywhere in that Atheism thread.waunakonor wrote: ...Aaaaaaannd the hate continues. We were doing well for a little bit there. Hey brENsKi, how exactly am I discrediting your experience? I'm not; I'm saying that if Greg wants to provide commentaries on Queen's shows he can. I'm not his PR agent, I just think he's a good guy so I'm trying to defend him. horse feathers, what does liking songs from the 80s have anything to do with anything? And finally, are we ever going to stop hating funkyrake for asking a simple question?You're doing a good job communicating important points on this thread waunakonor. You deserve more backup and I'd normally make sure you had it but I seem to be pinging from one QZ fight to another in recent weeks and I'm a bit worn out. :) |
inu-liger 16.04.2013 17:21 |
Toon_86 wrote: Is this what queenzone has become, 4 pages of bollocks? Can't we have a discussion about Mary singing AKOM in the bath or something?That's nothing. Try 20 pages. It's been like this for years, and it's only getting worse. Queenzone is losing its purpose eventually. |
Donna13 16.04.2013 18:16 |
Attending the concerts was an important and emotional experience for me. But we who were teenagers in the 1970's and 1980's can't claim to be more important or more knowledgable than these younger fans just because we were born earlier. That is just silly. On the question of the question, I think we should try to discourage that level of digging for information with a simple, "Sorry, but her kids are grown and living a private life." No reason to try to make a big deal out of it. But you never know. Mary and her grown children might attend the opening of the Freddie movie, so it is possible that eventually, people with that level of curiosity about them will get to see them being interviewed or something. |
TheWorks84 17.04.2013 02:15 |
Donna13 wrote: Attending the concerts was an important and emotional experience for me. But we who were teenagers in the 1970's and 1980's can't claim to be more important or more knowledgable than these younger fans just because we were born earlier. That is just silly. On the question of the question, I think we should try to discourage that level of digging for information with a simple, "Sorry, but her kids are grown and living a private life." No reason to try to make a big deal out of it. But you never know. Mary and her grown children might attend the opening of the Freddie movie, so it is possible that eventually, people with that level of curiosity about them will get to see them being interviewed or something.Well said. |
brENsKi 17.04.2013 13:24 |
Donna13 wrote: Attending the concerts was an important and emotional experience for me. But we who were teenagers in the 1970's and 1980's can't claim to be more important or more knowledgable than these younger fans just because we were born earlier. That is just silly. Donna i certainly wasn't saying that. here's what i said: "He knows virtually everything except what it was like to actually be there". by default you're implying that virtually everything is NOT going to a concert therefore by consequence actually attending a concert = virtually nothing in other words - i resent the fact that someone can so readily dismiss the experience of actually being there in preference for a listener's view of a tape of the gig. surely they are BOTH of the same importance? if not with a bit more importance being attached to being there as opposed to later listening? |
Donna13 17.04.2013 14:04 |
I understood the point. I think where we have the advantage is in our understanding of how original and exciting Queen were in that time period. Getting to experience it in real time - sequentially, especially the treat of hearing the music as it was released. Also, maybe we experienced more surprises, i.e. costumes, lighting, song choices and arrangements, because we didn't have a Youtube to preview everything. Also we didn't have the sadness of knowing about Freddie's illness. So it was probably a more joyous experience for the original fans. But otherwise, with the advantage of Youtube, these new fans can become experts on each concert. |
waunakonor 17.04.2013 14:25 |
I think this was just a misunderstanding in the way I worded it. What I said was "He knows virtually everything except what it was like to actually be there." i.e., he knows virtually everything he can know, NOT INCLUDING what it was like to actually be there. That's what the "except" was there for. Hope you understand now. I wasn't trying to undermine the importance of the atmosphere of being there firsthand, and I agree that the opinion of someone who was there is probably more valid. I was just trying to make the point that Greg can comment on the shows since he does in fact know a lot about them. Also, brENsKi, just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason why you've suddenly started bolding large portions of your text? |
brENsKi 17.04.2013 16:31 |
I don't know, it just keeps doing it....sometimes completely at random ;-) |