DLCVinnuendo 05.04.2013 20:52 |
I saw this on the forum of queenonline link |
Nitroboy 05.04.2013 22:37 |
As if it would be an upgrade over the DVD-Audio release.... |
inu-liger 05.04.2013 23:57 |
Nitroboy wrote: As if it would be an upgrade over the DVD-Audio release....In a way, it would be. Blu-ray Audio is easily far more accessible than either DVD-Audio or SACD were. Also, the menus and navigation would surely have to be an improvement over the sluggish, badly designed DVD-A's version :-) |
Nitroboy 06.04.2013 01:30 |
inu-liger wrote:In a way, it would be. Blu-ray Audio is easily far more accessible than either DVD-Audio or SACD were. Also, the menus and navigation would surely have to be an improvement over the sluggish, badly designed DVD-A's version :-)Regarding that, yes. But in terms of audio quality? I doubt it :) |
rocknrolllover 06.04.2013 01:48 |
What is it? New remaster or simple re-release? |
Nitroboy 06.04.2013 02:43 |
We don't know yet. |
rocknrolllover 06.04.2013 02:45 |
Something like that was with Budapest (which was released in last year) which wasn't official confirm but some online store hang news about it. |
Hangman_96 06.04.2013 03:52 |
Nothing to get excited about. |
rocknrolllover 06.04.2013 05:25 |
Lostman wrote: Nothing to get excited about. Don't you like something, buddy? :-) :-( |
e-man 06.04.2013 06:38 |
if you care about sound quality, this is superb news. day 1 for me. easily. I hope they include the videos like they did on the "classic albums" special edt. dvd by eagle rock. Queen II on blu ray audio is perhaps THE Queen product I'd most like to see released |
rocknrolllover 06.04.2013 06:52 |
e-man wrote: if you care about sound quality, this is superb news. day 1 for me. easily. I hope they include the videos like they did on the "classic albums" special edt. dvd by eagle rock. Queen II on blu ray audio is perhaps THE Queen product I'd most like to see released Yeah, Queen II: it would be nice if this album was released on Blu ray. Is sound quality on Blu ray better than DVD audio? |
mooghead 06.04.2013 08:10 |
The difference in audio quality between blu ray and dvd audio will only be apparent on very high end equipment |
AlexRocks 06.04.2013 12:19 |
How in the hell and why in the hell would you all care NOW?! I've been talking about how this should be done for the bulk of this decade and all I got was shit from people here! Fucking fairweather fans! |
rocknrolllover 06.04.2013 12:43 |
AlexRocks wrote: How in the hell and why in the hell would you all care NOW?! I've been talking about how this should be done for the bulk of this decade and all I got was shit from people here! Fucking fairweather fans!Please stop moan |
inu-liger 06.04.2013 13:31 |
AlexRocks wrote: How in the hell and why in the hell would you all care NOW?! I've been talking about how this should be done for the bulk of this decade and all I got was shit from people here! Fucking fairweather fans!Ditto, I suggested BD-A releases too even since before BD came out, and got ridiculed for it too. But BD-A releases ARE out there now for some artists, like Pink Floyd and Rush! No excuse for Queen not to get into it and resume their 5.1 releases, now that Blu-ray has been without a competing format for a few years now :-) |
mooghead 06.04.2013 15:41 |
Can't see it selling to be honest, I wont be buying it, why would I? |
AlexRocks 06.04.2013 20:56 |
SIGH. I DON'T KNOW!!!! Lol. A plague of tarantulas upon you all! :) |
fr1986 06.04.2013 22:22 |
Nothing new, why don't they release blu-rays of hammersmith 75/79 houston 77, Argentina 81, Japan 85, Knebworth 86. That would be superb news to all of us. And what happened to the Rainbow DvD, Does anybody know?? |
rocknrolllover 06.04.2013 23:54 |
fr1986 wrote: Nothing new, why don't they release blu-rays of hammersmith 75/79 houston 77, Argentina 81, Japan 85, Knebworth 86. That would be superb news to all of us. And what happened to the Rainbow DvD, Does anybody know? hammersmith 75/79 houston 77,Japan 85 I doubt that these gigs are suitable for release on Blu ray. Work on a Rainbow still don't finished. Knewborth full professional recording don't exist, only part. Argentina 1981 I doubt that this gig are suitable for release on Blu ray |
inu-liger 07.04.2013 01:09 |
rocknrolllover wrote:If only you could be as consistently accurate and on-topic elsewhere all the time :-)fr1986 wrote: Nothing new, why don't they release blu-rays of hammersmith 75/79 houston 77, Argentina 81, Japan 85, Knebworth 86. That would be superb news to all of us. And what happened to the Rainbow DvD, Does anybody know?hammersmith 75/79 houston 77,Japan 85 I doubt that these gigs are suitable for release on Blu ray. Work on a Rainbow still don't finished. Knewborth full professional recording don't exist, only part. Argentina 1981 I doubt that this gig are suitable for release on Blu ray |
rocknrolllover 07.04.2013 02:23 |
inu-liger wrote:rocknrolllover wrote:If only you could be as consistently accurate and on-topic elsewhere all the time :-)fr1986 wrote: Nothing new, why don't they release blu-rays of hammersmith 75/79 houston 77, Argentina 81, Japan 85, Knebworth 86. That would be superb news to all of us. And what happened to the Rainbow DvD, Does anybody know?hammersmith 75/79 houston 77,Japan 85 I doubt that these gigs are suitable for release on Blu ray. Work on a Rainbow still don't finished. Knewborth full professional recording don't exist, only part. Argentina 1981 I doubt that this gig are suitable for release on Blu ray Whart do you mean? |
inu-liger 07.04.2013 03:47 |
You know exactly what I mean |
rocknrolllover 07.04.2013 03:55 |
inu-liger wrote: You know exactly what I mean I'm sorry, but I don't know. |
brians wig 07.04.2013 12:45 |
WHAT????? How many more copies of Bloody NATO are they going to release? Get some OTHER surround albums made and released please!!! |
tero! 48531 07.04.2013 14:12 |
brians wig wrote: WHAT????? How many more copies of Bloody NATO are they going to release? Get some OTHER surround albums made and released please!!!You're right. Maybe they could manage The Game for the 40th anniversary? But before that, we're long overdue for a re-release of Wembley '86 on blu-ray... |
mooghead 07.04.2013 14:37 |
rocknrolllover wrote:He means stop talking shit and say something interesting for once... like me :-)inu-liger wrote: You know exactly what I meanI'm sorry, but I don't know. |
e-man 07.04.2013 16:03 |
somewhat off topic; but the people who constantly talk about how wembley will be released on blu ray before (instert whatever Queen related product), are they not aware that wembley, in terms of picture quality, cannot benefit from a HD transfer? or is that very fact a part of the joke/moan ? |
mooghead 07.04.2013 16:23 |
If you put Wembley on 2 identical TV's being supplied by 2 identical Blu Ray players, but one had the DVD and one had the Blu Ray.. would you be able to tell which one was the Blu Ray or not, picture wise? |
inu-liger 07.04.2013 16:37 |
e-man wrote:are they not aware that wembley, in terms of picture quality, cannot benefit from a HD transfer? or is that very fact a part of the joke/moan ?Well I don't suppose you would have seen the "Days Of Our Lives" documentary in full high definition then, would you? Seriously, even with the fact the archival footage used for the most is originally shot on standard definition video, it looks FANTASTIC in upconverted HD compared to standard DVD! Not that I'm advocating a Wembley '86 re-release anytime soon (maybe they should wait until the 30th or 40th anniversary for that!), but in general I believe any concert shot on video would do fine on BD in that as far as encoding and specs go, BD allows up to 40Mbit/s for video encoding as opposed to DVD's 8Mbit/s, and there is the more significant advantage of having lossless surround sound audio (DVD's limited to either lossless 2.0 PCM or 5.1 DTS topping out at 1.5Mbit/s) Also, for the North American/NTSC markets, the BD resolution allows us to watch PAL-sourced videos without losing about 16% of the picture quality in the process (as is typical with PAL > NTSC conversions for SD formats), albeit with the frame rate still changed from 25fps to 29.97fps of course. |
inu-liger 07.04.2013 16:41 |
mooghead wrote: If you put Wembley on 2 identical TV's being supplied by 2 identical Blu Ray players, but one had the DVD and one had the Blu Ray.. would you be able to tell which one was the Blu Ray or not, picture wise?Theoretically yes you could. As I explained in my last post, Blu-ray video encoding allows up to 40Mbit/s and DVD is limited to 8Mbit/s, so even a well encoded DVD likely would still show macroblocking especially in fast shots whereas Blu-ray should not owing to the massive overhead the encoding bitrate gives for SD sourced video. |
e-man 08.04.2013 03:36 |
inu-liger wrote:that's true. the blu ray of Dire Straits' Alchemy Live looks very good conisdering it's a SD shot concert. I'm no expert, but I suppose alot of work needs to be done, and that you cannot simply transfer it to a BD and it'll look alot better?e-man wrote:are they not aware that wembley, in terms of picture quality, cannot benefit from a HD transfer? or is that very fact a part of the joke/moan ?Well I don't suppose you would have seen the "Days Of Our Lives" documentary in full high definition then, would you? Seriously, even with the fact the archival footage used for the most is originally shot on standard definition video, it looks FANTASTIC in upconverted HD compared to standard DVD! Not that I'm advocating a Wembley '86 re-release anytime soon (maybe they should wait until the 30th or 40th anniversary for that!), but in general I believe any concert shot on video would do fine on BD in that as far as encoding and specs go, BD allows up to 40Mbit/s for video encoding as opposed to DVD's 8Mbit/s, and there is the more significant advantage of having lossless surround sound audio (DVD's limited to either lossless 2.0 PCM or 5.1 DTS topping out at 1.5Mbit/s) Also, for the North American/NTSC markets, the BD resolution allows us to watch PAL-sourced videos without losing about 16% of the picture quality in the process (as is typical with PAL > NTSC conversions for SD formats), albeit with the frame rate still changed from 25fps to 29.97fps of course. about the sound; yes indeed. a BD could contain a HD sountrack. imo, that's a good enough reason to put out a Wembley BD... |
cmsdrums 08.04.2013 06:45 |
e-man wrote: that's true. the blu ray of Dire Straits' Alchemy Live looks very good conisdering it's a SD shot concert. I'm no expert, but I suppose alot of work needs to be done, and that you cannot simply transfer it to a BD and it'll look alot better? about the sound; yes indeed. a BD could contain a HD sountrack. imo, that's a good enough reason to put out a Wembley BD...I haven't bought the Alchemy Live Blu Ray because I read several reviews saying it had no remastering or treatment, and was literally just the VHS dumped onto a blu ray disc, and had loads of colour bleeding etc.... Is there a revised edition oput now that addresses these issues, or were these reviews way off the mark? Thanks Chris |
Rick 08.04.2013 08:06 |
Blu-Ray or not, it's still the same album. Something which has been released umpteen times now, in different formats. Give us something new instead. |
e-man 08.04.2013 09:31 |
cmsdrums wrote:the blu ray edition (and the only blu ray edition as far as I know) is the only one I have seen, so I can't really compare to any previous releasese-man wrote: that's true. the blu ray of Dire Straits' Alchemy Live looks very good conisdering it's a SD shot concert. I'm no expert, but I suppose alot of work needs to be done, and that you cannot simply transfer it to a BD and it'll look alot better? about the sound; yes indeed. a BD could contain a HD sountrack. imo, that's a good enough reason to put out a Wembley BD...I haven't bought the Alchemy Live Blu Ray because I read several reviews saying it had no remastering or treatment, and was literally just the VHS dumped onto a blu ray disc, and had loads of colour bleeding etc.... Is there a revised edition oput now that addresses these issues, or were these reviews way off the mark? Thanks Chris my thoughts are based on the fact that I knew the show was filmed in SD and thus I didn't expect much. And having said that, the Ac Dc "let the be rock" blu ray is also SD, but looks probably better than Alchemy live |
OwenSmith 08.04.2013 14:56 |
Nitroboy wrote:It won't be the same audio as the DVD-A. Recall that Brian fiddled with the 5.1 mixes for the 30th Anniversary DVD-V DTS tracks, in some cases ruining them in my opinion (eg. opening of Prophet's Song). Also God Save the Queen was an upmix for the DVD-A, the multitrack masters were later found and used for the 30th Anniversary. Finally the DTS 5.1 on the anniversary were all ruined by being subjected to loudness wars, which is pointless as they were never likely to be broadcast on the radio or played on an iPod.inu-liger wrote:In a way, it would be. Blu-ray Audio is easily far more accessible than either DVD-Audio or SACD were. Also, the menus and navigation would surely have to be an improvement over the sluggish, badly designed DVD-A's version :-)Regarding that, yes. But in terms of audio quality? I doubt it :) Anyway, it's anyone's guess what the audio will be in terms of mix. Depends how Brian feels. In terms of audio quality, the DVD-A is 24/96 lossless so I don't see how Blu Ray can improve on that. Far more important is whether it is ruined due to loudness wars like the DTS. |
OwenSmith 08.04.2013 14:59 |
mooghead wrote: The difference in audio quality between blu ray and dvd audio will only be apparent on very high end equipmentI doubt it. I'm not even sure which you are claiming is better. When you're up around 24/96 lossles or higher, the quality of the source material and how it is mixed and mastered is totally dominant for the audio quality. |
saj ditta 09.04.2013 09:39 |
queen made more than 1@lbum you know.so why do we keep going on about the overated anato?would be nice to have innuendo as a bluray watever is they do.god thiers plenty more albums they can do instead of same ol crap.thiers enough versions of anato going around. |
inu-liger 09.04.2013 10:27 |
saj ditta wrote: queen made more than 1@lbum you know.so why do we keep going on about the overated anato?Because the people in charge of their releases seem to be concerned with repeatedly plugging very select releases as part of an ongoing long term campaign to instill certain personas and images of Freddie in the mass public mindset |
mooghead 09.04.2013 11:08 |
OwenSmith wrote:I am not claiming either is better, I am willing to bet my left nut that 99.9% of people who frequent this board do not have the necessary equipment to claim which is better either. Those who would buy the very high quality formats would no doubt rip them straight to a portable device thus undermining the quality anyway.mooghead wrote: The difference in audio quality between blu ray and dvd audio will only be apparent on very high end equipmentI doubt it. I'm not even sure which you are claiming is better. When you're up around 24/96 lossles or higher, the quality of the source material and how it is mixed and mastered is totally dominant for the audio quality. Its a product for products sake and there have been too many. |
OwenSmith 10.04.2013 03:49 |
mooghead wrote: I am not claiming either is better, I am willing to bet my left nut that 99.9% of people who frequent this board do not have the necessary equipment to claim which is better either. Those who would buy the very high quality formats would no doubt rip them straight to a portable device thus undermining the quality anyway. Its a product for products sake and there have been too many.I have the equipment to hear a difference (in 5.1 or otherwise) between blu ray and DVD Audio. But with a nearly 40 year old set of master tapes for Night At The Opera there is only so much resolution on the analogue masters, which I suspect 24/96 lossless exceeds. So regardless of format capabilities beyond that, I believe there wouldn't be a difference to hear. Whether it is a sensible product to put out is a different matter. I'm a surround sound fan and it is a shame DVD Audio failed as a mainstream format. Putting it out again on Blu Ray would allow people with mainstream blu ray players to hear it in lossless surround sound. On the other hand I suspect the people bothered about sound quality already have a DVD-A capable blu ray player, and the rest would be perfectly happy listening to a wrecked sound in Dolby Digital on DVD. Or more likely they'll moan about how hard it is to rip the stereo track to MP3. |
OwenSmith 10.04.2013 03:55 |
I'd really like to hear Queen II in surround sound. Musically this album was one of Queen's high points and I think it would suit surround. The other DVD A was The Game which I also have. An odd choice for surround music given the album was deliberately recorded with a stripped down sound. I suspect it was purely because The Game was their big hit in the USA. When the DVD A project was still ongoing, Brian said the next album would be Day At The Races. I guess that's a good second choice if I can't have Queen II. But really, we all know any new surround release would be only Night At The Opera. There is little prospect of a sustained set of multiple surround album releases. |
Pim Derks 10.04.2013 11:24 |
I don't care about 5.1 releases. I just want a 40th Anniversary debut-album box and more boxes when other albums reach that mark. - The original album on 2x12" 45-RPM disc - The 2011 remaster of the album - A CD containing the first three BBC sessions (February, June and December 1973) - A CD containing the full Golders Green gig - A CD containing outtakes, alternate versions etc. - A replica of the De Lane Lea acetate - A replica of one of the KYA 7" singles - Some other memorabilia thrown in (tickets, replica poster, ...) - A book containing extensive interviews with all involved (Brian, Roger, producers, friends, ...) Shame it won't happen. |
rocknrolllover 12.04.2013 08:41 |
Pim Derks wrote: I don't care about 5.1 releases. I just want a 40th Anniversary debut-album box and more boxes when other albums reach that mark. - The original album on 2x12" 45-RPM disc - The 2011 remaster of the album - A CD containing the first three BBC sessions (February, June and December 1973) - A CD containing the full Golders Green gig - A CD containing outtakes, alternate versions etc. - A replica of the De Lane Lea acetate - A replica of one of the KYA 7" singles - Some other memorabilia thrown in (tickets, replica poster, ...) - A book containing extensive interviews with all involved (Brian, Roger, producers, friends, ...) Shame it won't happen.That's the point that this does not happen, and we can only dream about it |
MackMantilla 12.04.2013 08:50 |
"Don't be afraid, it's only a dream" (Man From Manhattan) |
rocknrolllover 26.04.2013 07:19 |
Pim Derks wrote: I don't care about 5.1 releases. I just want a 40th Anniversary debut-album box and more boxes when other albums reach that mark. - The original album on 2x12" 45-RPM disc - The 2011 remaster of the album - A CD containing the first three BBC sessions (February, June and December 1973) - A CD containing the full Golders Green gig - A CD containing outtakes, alternate versions etc. - A replica of the De Lane Lea acetate - A replica of one of the KYA 7" singles - Some other memorabilia thrown in (tickets, replica poster, ...) - A book containing extensive interviews with all involved (Brian, Roger, producers, friends, ...) Shame it won't happen.The original album on 2x12" 45-RPM disc Do you think this exist? The 2011 remaster of the album this already was released. Didn't you know? A CD containing the first three BBC sessions (February, June and December 1973) Don't you have Queen Live at BBC which was released officially? |
Pim Derks 26.04.2013 10:45 |
The 2x12" 45-RPM does not exist, but I'd love to see the original album pressed on 200 grams vinyl with a big fat cardboard sleeve. Nothing beats vinyl. The 2011 remaster is already available, but ofcourse the original album should be included in a boxset about it. The offically released BBC set does not include 1 of the 1973 sessions and includes an edited version of Ogre Battle. It's from the period, so it should be in a box about the period. But who cares, we'll probably get a 40th Anniversary ANATO in 2015 including 2 new 30 second snippets from the BoRhap sessions and The Prophet's Song outtakes apparently found in Roger's cupboard. Like they did in 2005, when the DVD/Documentary included 30 seconds of DOTL outtakes and a piano intro-demo for BoRhap. |
KevoM 29.04.2013 06:56 |
Rick wrote: Blu-Ray or not, it's still the same album. Something which has been released umpteen times now, in different formats. Give us something new instead.Totally agree AND in DTS HD MA 7.1 and KEEP Justin Shirley '4.1' Smith WELL AWAY from the mixing desk!! A compliation like the recent Stones Grrrrr Blu Ray Audio would be great. |
KevoM 29.04.2013 06:57 |
I wouldn't be surprised if NATO is the most released album on different formats in the world? |
Hangman_96 29.04.2013 07:52 |
KevoM wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if NATO is the most released album on different formats in the world?It's the best way to annoy people, y'know. |
rocknrolllover 29.04.2013 08:07 |
We want something fresh we want taste it |
Stick 29.04.2013 08:54 |
rocknrolllover wrote: We want something fresh we want taste itWe want people who can not only read an entire forum in English but can also learn from that and respond in English. After reading so many of your posts I can't for the life of me understand why you don't try a bit harder to learn something here. What are you, 7? 93? |
rocknrolllover 29.04.2013 09:12 |
Stick wrote:rocknrolllover wrote: We want something fresh we want taste itWe want people who can not only read an entire forum in English but can also learn from that and respond in English. After reading so many of your posts I can't for the life of me understand why you don't try a bit harder to learn something here. What are you, 7? 93? I don't care what you say. I'll be ignore you. |
AlexRocks 29.04.2013 15:52 |
PimDerks what's so special about a 200 gram vinyl? 180 gram is as thick as they can be. My understanding is that any thing else is just marketing manipulation. With that said I would just like to point out that the idea that each of Queen's studio l.p.s should be made into two vinyl 45's was MY idea! Lol. I got it from the fact that Metallica did it. I love Metallica...but Queen are better. |
Stick 30.04.2013 02:44 |
rocknrolllover wrote:I can't understand the dribble that comes out of your mouth, please try again when you're older.Stick wrote:I don't care what you say. I'll be ignore you.rocknrolllover wrote: We want something fresh we want taste itWe want people who can not only read an entire forum in English but can also learn from that and respond in English. After reading so many of your posts I can't for the life of me understand why you don't try a bit harder to learn something here. What are you, 7? 93? |
rocknrolllover 30.04.2013 02:50 |
Stick wrote:rocknrolllover wrote:I can't understand the dribble that comes out of your mouth, please try again when you're older.Stick wrote:I don't care what you say. I'll be ignore you.rocknrolllover wrote: We want something fresh we want taste itWe want people who can not only read an entire forum in English but can also learn from that and respond in English. After reading so many of your posts I can't for the life of me understand why you don't try a bit harder to learn something here. What are you, 7? 93? don't you understand? So musch the worse for you |
inu-liger 01.05.2013 15:52 |
I wish YV would come back soon and ban this troll alongside Medusa's other duplicate accounts |
rocknrolllover 01.05.2013 23:42 |
inu-liger wrote: I wish YV would come back soon and ban this troll alongside Medusa's other duplicate accounts I'm not a troll |
inu-liger 02.05.2013 03:04 |
rocknrolllover wrote:So how do we sugarcoat it then? I'm sorry, but you fit the definition and behaviours of a troll. Now cut the crap!inu-liger wrote: I wish YV would come back soon and ban this troll alongside Medusa's other duplicate accountsI'm not a troll |
rocknrolllover 02.05.2013 03:23 |
inu-liger wrote:rocknrolllover wrote:So how do we sugarcoat it then? I'm sorry, but you fit the definition and behaviours of a troll. Now cut the crap!inu-liger wrote: I wish YV would come back soon and ban this troll alongside Medusa's other duplicate accountsI'm not a troll Stop it, you these humiliation and insult in any way I am not a troll |
inu-liger 02.05.2013 05:04 |
rocknrolllover wrote:You're the one bringing humiliation onto yourself just fine, with the way you rely solely on online translators.inu-liger wrote:Stop it, you these humiliation and insult in any way I am not a trollrocknrolllover wrote:So how do we sugarcoat it then? I'm sorry, but you fit the definition and behaviours of a troll. Now cut the crap!inu-liger wrote: I wish YV would come back soon and ban this troll alongside Medusa's other duplicate accountsI'm not a troll And yes, you ARE a troll. |
inu-liger 02.05.2013 05:04 |
And by the way, "you these" doesn't even make grammatical sense! |
rocknrolllover 02.05.2013 05:16 |
inu-liger wrote: And by the way, "you these" doesn't even make grammatical sense! it doesn't matter |
popy 02.05.2013 05:24 |
cmsdrums wrote:SD? Don't think so. From what i remember seeing, it was shot on 16mm film. If the transfer was badly done or badly restored that's another story. There's no artifacts/noise that normally show up on SD video of the time (early 80's) , like trailing lights for example. Also, notice picture grain (more noticeable on Blu-Ray).e-man wrote: that's true. the blu ray of Dire Straits' Alchemy Live looks very good conisdering it's a SD shot concert. I'm no expert, but I suppose alot of work needs to be done, and that you cannot simply transfer it to a BD and it'll look alot better? about the sound; yes indeed. a BD could contain a HD sountrack. imo, that's a good enough reason to put out a Wembley BD...I haven't bought the Alchemy Live Blu Ray because I read several reviews saying it had no remastering or treatment, and was literally just the VHS dumped onto a blu ray disc, and had loads of colour bleeding etc.... Is there a revised edition oput now that addresses these issues, or were these reviews way off the mark? Thanks Chris |