QueenZone discussion #1337087

TheWorks84 wrote: But u gotta remember some of the Miracle/innuendo songs may not of been written if freddie was not sick.

jpgthfc wrote: As hard as it is, imagine if Queen were still together in the very late 80's

The Real Wizard wrote:

TheWorks84 wrote: But u gotta remember some of the Miracle/innuendo songs may not of been written if freddie was not sick.

Exactly. I'd say most. So this thread, while fun, really is all so silly. Queen's/Freddie's post-1986 output would have been almost completely different had he not fallen ill.

TheWorks84 wrote: I would say Somebody to love would of been brought back in to the setlists, as would of Killer Queen. And no i dont think the Show Must Go On would of been the closer NO WAY!, WWRY AND WATC would of remained the closers. As for the songs which would of been dropped, most of the Magic album songs, but i think AKOM itself would of remained in the setlist, HTF, break free and gaga would of remained, possible drop Under Pressure. I would say the newer songs added certainly would of been These are the days of our lives, Show must go on, Miracle, breathru, scandal, and possible Slightly mad. But u gotta remember some of the Miracle/innuendo songs may not of been written if freddie was not sick.

mooghead wrote: It was around the early 90's MTV started having great success with its 'unplugged' concerts. I think Queen would have done one and it would have been great.

mooghead wrote:

TheWorks84 wrote: I would say Somebody to love would of been brought back in to the setlists, as would of Killer Queen. And no i dont think the Show Must Go On would of been the closer NO WAY!, WWRY AND WATC would of remained the closers. As for the songs which would of been dropped, most of the Magic album songs, but i think AKOM itself would of remained in the setlist, HTF, break free and gaga would of remained, possible drop Under Pressure. I would say the newer songs added certainly would of been These are the days of our lives, Show must go on, Miracle, breathru, scandal, and possible Slightly mad. But u gotta remember some of the Miracle/innuendo songs may not of been written if freddie was not sick.

Replace the word 'of' with 'have' and you will sound intelligent enough to make people listen to what you have to say. I know I sound like an arsehole but it's basic English. (Amongst the other atrocities)

TheWorks84 wrote: And no i dont think the Show Must Go On would of been the closer NO WAY!, WWRY AND WATC would of remained the closers.

waunakonor wrote: English speakers everywhere do it , not just in Australia. It happens because "would've" and other similar songs sound like "would of." A lot of people do it, but that doesn't make it right. It's oh so wrong.

TheWorks84 wrote: Australian slang that is : ), of is used instead of have in some sentences, it may not be Correct to u people, but many people use it as a slang here.

The Fairy King wrote: Pointless speculations! Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM. And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?

waunakonor wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Pointless speculations! Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM. And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?

I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate. As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.

The Fairy King wrote:

waunakonor wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Pointless speculations! Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM. And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?

I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate. As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.

Really?

waunakonor wrote: I would totally watch a setlist like that. Sounds amazing.

The Fairy King wrote:

waunakonor wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: Pointless speculations! Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM. And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?

I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate. As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.

Really?

??? Are you trying to make a point? Saying "Really?" doesn't tell me anything besides that you can't make a real argument by yourself.

brENsKi wrote: i didn't think my list was ridiculous. thought it had a pointed theme running thru it

The Fairy King wrote: I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself. You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists. Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".

GratefulFan wrote:

The Fairy King wrote: I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself. You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists. Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".

How far would I have to go back to find you starting a discussion in General/Serious? Veterans crapping on newer fans and posters for recycling older discussions without themselves contributing the fabled new and interesting things isn't exactly a sustainable forum model. All this kind of useless complaint does is grind down everybody of any experience level. I really wish people would knock it off. It truly serves no positive purpose and is very destructive. Don't find something interesting? No problem. I hear you. Go be fascinating on some other topic.

waunakonor wrote: When I first saw this topic, I was going to post a sarcastic sort of response basically saying that this has already been talked about before, and that's what I did. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I thought what if I didn't just go for a stupid cop-out answer and instead put a little thought into it? So I responded again with a somewhat more thoughtful response. I enjoyed thinking about it and discussing it. I don't understand how "It's fun," isn't an acceptable reason for a topic to exist. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Perhaps that means it shouldn't be in "Serious Discussion," but, it really doesn't matter that much. Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.

The Fairy King wrote:

waunakonor wrote: When I first saw this topic, I was going to post a sarcastic sort of response basically saying that this has already been talked about before, and that's what I did. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I thought what if I didn't just go for a stupid cop-out answer and instead put a little thought into it? So I responded again with a somewhat more thoughtful response. I enjoyed thinking about it and discussing it. I don't understand how "It's fun," isn't an acceptable reason for a topic to exist. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Perhaps that means it shouldn't be in "Serious Discussion," but, it really doesn't matter that much. Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.

I think the discussion of which songs wouldn't exist if Freddie wasn't dying is far more interesting and refreshing than another thread with random setlists.

matt z wrote: That time will come. One day you'll see. When we can allllll be friends

matt z wrote: All God's people. Despite it being like MAD THE SWINE probably wouldn't have been in their minds

brENsKi wrote: so what about if Freddie continued to take his meds - and went into remission? - to an extent where he managed to live a fit and healthy life? the next queen tour after that could be titled LIVE AIDS....no hold on? didn't that get taken somewhere else...round about 1985? but you could have a suitably titled setlist: LIVE AIDS - QUEEN ON TOUR 1995 dead on time doing all right keep yourself alive now i'm here another one bites the dust don't try suicide death on two legs hang on in there i can't live with you you take my breath away sheer heart attack all dead, all dead let me live my life has been saved save me staying power it's a hard life who wants to live forever the miracle show must go on

matt z wrote: That time will come. One day you'll see. When we can allllll be friends