QueenZone discussion #1337045

Marknow wrote: Jim Beach has full control over Freddie's solo work.

thefallenqueen wrote: ah Wembley - how many times? shortly before Budapest - same tour, isn't that boring?

The Real Wizard wrote: For fuck's sake... Every artist has their albums and greatest hits compilations re-released. This is not going to change. It's called the music "business", not the music charity. They've released the Freddie boxed set, plenty of concert DVDs, great bonus tracks on the latest album remasters, and just did two documentaries full of new unseen bits - and there is still far more complaining than gratitude. Do you think QP is going to be inspired to create a similar Queen boxed set if all people do is complain about the fact that it was a mere 11 discs instead of 14 ? Seriously - think about it. If the "hardcore" fans are aching for new Queen material and keep complaining when it comes out, why should QP even bother if these very people will never be pleased?

thefallenqueen wrote: Knebworth!

Holly2003 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: For fuck's sake... Every artist has their albums and greatest hits compilations re-released. This is not going to change. It's called the music "business", not the music charity. They've released the Freddie boxed set, plenty of concert DVDs, great bonus tracks on the latest album remasters, and just did two documentaries full of new unseen bits - and there is still far more complaining than gratitude. Do you think QP is going to be inspired to create a similar Queen boxed set if all people do is complain about the fact that it was a mere 11 discs instead of 14 ? Seriously - think about it. If the "hardcore" fans are aching for new Queen material and keep complaining when it comes out, why should QP even bother if these very people will never be pleased?

That's a completely false argument as these releases weren't for hard-core fans but for the widest possible audience.

cmsdrums wrote: Mercury Songs Ltd is the company that seems to be in charge of Freddie's solo output. A quick web search tells me the following: "Mercury Songs Limited was registered on 29 Dec 1977. The business has a status of active. Their founding director was Henry Beach, who is British, aged 70. Mercury Songs Limited have a single shareholder; John Libson & Henry James Beach. They have no known group companies. The company has assets totalling £1,151,261 plus total liabilities totalling £786,887. They owe £786,887 to creditors and are due £421,588 from trade debtors. As of their last financial statement, they had £721,376 in cash reserves. Their book value is £364,374, and the value of their shareholders' fund is £364,374." In addition: Current directors: Mr Amin Saleh Mr Henry James Beach Mr John Leslie Libson Current Secretaries: Ms Mary Georgina Austin

Holly2003 wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: For fuck's sake... Every artist has their albums and greatest hits compilations re-released. This is not going to change. It's called the music "business", not the music charity. They've released the Freddie boxed set, plenty of concert DVDs, great bonus tracks on the latest album remasters, and just did two documentaries full of new unseen bits - and there is still far more complaining than gratitude. Do you think QP is going to be inspired to create a similar Queen boxed set if all people do is complain about the fact that it was a mere 11 discs instead of 14 ? Seriously - think about it. If the "hardcore" fans are aching for new Queen material and keep complaining when it comes out, why should QP even bother if these very people will never be pleased?

That's a completely false argument as these releases weren't for hard-core fans but for the widest possible audience.

Holly2003 wrote: Your arguments are all over the place, which makes it difficult to offer a focused response. You've argued in the past, for example, that music is not just about profit and yet you use that argument here to defend Queen productions. You also left off your list a number of re-releases but, again, I'm not interested in having a long drawn out discussion of everything that's been released (or not released) since 1991. So in order to avoid regurgitating the same points discussed here before, let's indeed cut to the chase: if music is just a business, then we are consumers and have a right to complain about product. That's it. End of story. Don't like it, then ignore it, but you can' have your cake and eat it too. Now if music isn't just a business and about endless profit for people who could never in their lifetimes spend the money they already have, perhaps Queen might follow the example of bands like Pearl Jam and release a lot of material for dedicated rather than just casual fans. It can be done in plain inexpensive packages and at market-sustaining prices. But Queen have never been that type of band and for all Brian's hippy posturing and Roger's champagne socialism, they're both, at heart, rather shallow when it comes to money and art.

brENsKi wrote: if i had to guess - and it really is only a guess. the reason no "queen anthology" has ever been released seems obvious - THEY DIDN'T KEEP ALL THE TAKES/OUTTAKES. that's why the beatles anthologies were so good - there was loads kept. think queen's attitude was similar to the BBCs - "these tapes are taking up space - burn them"