| jpgthfc 15.01.2013 13:38 |
2 questions here- why was Las Palabras de Amor included on Greatest Hits III and also why was it never performed live? (apart from that snippet from the milton keynes concert). It would have worked quite well before/after love of my life, surely? |
| Belladonic haze 15.01.2013 14:07 |
Surely. I distinctively recall practically EVERYONE around me hating it when it came out :P (Queen fans I mean). I was the only one who loved it. This one just mesmerizes me: link I would have MELTED had I seen it back in '82! So, yeah, why wasn't it performed live? |
| jpgthfc 15.01.2013 14:25 |
Did you see Queen in '82? I agree with you though, it's a fantastic song. |
| Belladonic haze 15.01.2013 14:53 |
I saw them 6 times in 1981 |
| jpgthfc 15.01.2013 15:08 |
whereabouts? |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 15.01.2013 15:09 |
I know this is not the same, but Brian sang it at the 2008 QPR gig in Buenos Aires. Absolutely loved it. I can't remember if they played it in Rio the week after that. I don't believe so. Cheers, Ogre- |
| Belladonic haze 15.01.2013 15:22 |
Buenos Aires (all shows) and Rock in Rio 85. I did not mention the QPR version, since it's not actually Queen and also I assume jpgthfc refers to live versions circa Hot Space or a bit later. |
| jpgthfc 15.01.2013 15:25 |
yep Hot Space tour. I knew about the QPR one, but thanks anyway :-) |
| jpgthfc 15.01.2013 15:25 |
anyone know about why it was on GHIII then? |
| mooghead 15.01.2013 15:32 |
Coz it wasn't on the others but it was a single? |
| Sebastian 15.01.2013 16:01 |
GHIII was a bit of patchwork trying to get enough tracks to justify another compilation. LPDA fitted the bill perfectly, having being a hit single and not included on GHII. It was certainly more fitting than the likes of Back Chat, Body Language and Scandal. It could've also (deliberately or not) related to the growing popularity of Queen in Spain, Mexico, South America and the Spanish-speaking American population. |
| Hangman_96 15.01.2013 16:20 |
I, too, fail to understand why they didn't perform it back then. That is a great song IMO! They must have thought it wouldn't work good live. |
| Sebastian 15.01.2013 16:40 |
They didn't perform Teo Torriatte outside Japan, even though it's a masterpiece (IMO, it's a hell of a lot better than LPDA), so maybe they didn't find it too relevant to perform LPDA in Canada, America, Japan, Sweden, Norway, France, England, Scotland, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland or West Germany. |
| brENsKi 15.01.2013 17:38 |
i think LPDA is a vastly overrated song. the good tracks tend to last more than one tour, let alone one snippet in a a gig or two. queen were (by 1982) already waist-high in concert ballads/singalong numbers..... in the lap of the gods, white queen, you take my breath away, somebody to love, spread your wings, love of my life, 39, you're my best friend, millionaire waltz, save me, |
| fr1986 15.01.2013 18:53 |
ahh what a pity they did not play it during the 80's. I remember when i went to see queen + PR in buenos aires in 2008 and Brian said " this is where it came from, from argentina" before he started playing it. It was a great nighr! |
| matt z 15.01.2013 19:19 |
Always thought it'd be a better song with my misheard lyrics "One foolish world, So many songs Senselessly hurled to the never ending cause" Being how it would contrast song with mere words in a sort of plea to people's tolerance and well being ...anyways... misheard lyrics. .. I think the poster who said his sister thought ALL DEAD ALL DEAD was about a girl named "Odette" takes the cake. Las Palabras was done with Zucchero as well at the tribute concert right? |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 15.01.2013 19:43 |
Dear God, I was so happy not remembering Zuchero's version! I need to forget again! Pleaaase!!! Cheers, Ogre- |
| MERQRY 15.01.2013 21:48 |
Sebastian wrote: GHIII was a bit of patchwork trying to get enough tracks to justify another compilation. LPDA fitted the bill perfectly, having being a hit single and not included on GHII. It was certainly more fitting than the likes of Back Chat, Body Language and Scandal. It could've also (deliberately or not) related to the growing popularity of Queen in Spain, Mexico, South America and the Spanish-speaking American population.I think Las palabras de amor was more oriented to South America (Argentina mainly because in Brazil they speak Portuguese) than Spain (they said the song was created inspirated in "The Game tour" and they didn't perfom any gig in spain at these times) or mexico (they haven't good memories from the mexico tour in 1981)... |
| Sebastian 16.01.2013 04:22 |
You may have a point. LPDA was recorded during the Swiss part of the HS sessions, which took place after they visited Argentina but before they went to Venezuela. |
| Belladonic haze 16.01.2013 06:52 |
Sebastian wrote: You may have a point. LPDA was recorded during the Swiss part of the HS sessions, which took place after they visited Argentina but before they went to Venezuela.Yep. The Teo Torriate comment is very valid also. |
| Queen1973 16.01.2013 07:30 |
Las palabras de amor is my 3rd favourite song and Hot space is my second fourite album. I have always thought Save me leading into Las palabras de amor would be ideal. Even in the papers when Zuchero sang it at the freddie tribute one reporter said "zuchero sang his own song" Las palabrad de amor. Wrong!!! I think it was not on greatest hits 2 as gh2 was popular songs not just positions in charts as Who wants to live forever was 24 in uk but a popular song. And inculded on gh2. Scandal and A winters tail are not on gh3 either...A winters tail was a top ten hit in the uk. GH3 is just a marketing CD and the people who put it together should be shot. Living on my own is not the single version either...Also Las palabras de amor was not going to be a single in the Uk, as hot space singles were not popular they did a Top of the pops to promote Las palabras de amor as Body language was not a big success. Calling all girls came out in usa and Las palabras de amor in the uk number 17.. |
| DLCVinnuendo 16.01.2013 08:10 |
the question of LPDA is not on the GHII is probaly about a music video, the TOTP video was probaly lost on the time, is only note that the GFII the setlist is the same of the GHII, very different of the GH |
| Belladonic haze 16.01.2013 11:22 |
DLCVinnuendo wrote: the question of LPDA is not on the GHII is probaly about a music video, the TOTP video was probaly lost on the time, is only note that the GFII the setlist is the same of the GHII, very different of the GHI think I recall hearing back in the day LPDA was an original Zucchero song and going nuts about it :P that TV performance I linked before is a great reward to the song lovers after so many years :) |
| The Real Wizard 16.01.2013 11:34 |
Lostman wrote: They must have thought it wouldn't work good live.They wanted to play it at the Leeds show. They tried it during soundcheck and they thought it just didn't work. |
| The Real Wizard 16.01.2013 11:35 |
Sebastian wrote: You may have a point. LPDA was recorded during the Swiss part of the HS sessions, which took place after they visited Argentina but before they went to Venezuela.Is there a source to confirm this? I thought Under Pressure, Soul Brother and Cool Cat were the only Hot Space era tracks recorded in 1981.. |
| Sebastian 16.01.2013 13:17 |
HS sessions began in June 1981 in Munich (source: Fred's letter to the OIQFC), Exactly what was done there I've no idea. They then had a break and later reconvened at Mountain Studios, where they did LPDA, POTF and CAG (source: Mack, on Barry Promane's thesis). That's when Bowie visited them and they tracked some ideas for UP and Cool Cat; whether Cool Cat was finished in Switzerland or later on in West Germany I don't know. UP was finished at the Power Station in NYC. Soul Brother remains a mystery to me - it could've been recorded in West Germany, or in Switzerland, or in America, as I seem to recall Brian saying Freddie specifically wrote it as a B-Side, which may suggest (but not by any means confirm) they might have recorded it in a rush. After those sessions they went to America, then Venezuela, then America, then Mexico, then America, then Mexico, then America, then Canada, then America, then England, and then West Germany in December for some sessions, which were cut off by Xmas break and then resumed (also in West Germany) in January and finished at the end of March (IIRC). Tracks recorded in those Munich sessions were Life Is Real plus the entire first side of the album. |
| DLCVinnuendo 16.01.2013 14:49 |
there are rumors that soul brother was recorded in the "the game" sessions, in 1980 |
| Holly2003 16.01.2013 15:50 |
There's a "saviour of the universe" line in Soul Brother -- probably a Flash Gordon reference, so we could at least know the earliest it might've been written if we knew the date Queen started tinkering with the Flash soundtrack. |
| Sebastian 16.01.2013 16:09 |
It also says 'when you're under pressure...' |
| Holly2003 16.01.2013 16:50 |
Good point. |
| Dubroc 17.01.2013 00:40 |
mooghead wrote: Coz it wasn't on the others but it was a single?Yes. |
| john bodega 17.01.2013 08:57 |
There was also originally a 'Fuck the Falklands' line in there somewhere which shows uncanny insight on Brian's part. |
| matt z 18.01.2013 18:44 |
Zebonka12 wrote: There was also originally a 'Fuck the Falklands' line in there somewhere which shows uncanny insight on Brian's part.So, you caught that too? And when played backwards it says "Capone is a tool, best was never made when lay to rest Freddie Rainbow release in 2017" |
| tomchristie22 19.01.2013 07:53 |
matt z wrote:BeautifulZebonka12 wrote: There was also originally a 'Fuck the Falklands' line in there somewhere which shows uncanny insight on Brian's part.So, you caught that too? And when played backwards it says "Capone is a tool, best was never made when lay to rest Freddie Rainbow release in 2017" |
| waunakonor 19.01.2013 18:29 |
matt z wrote:Did you mean Kapone, as in the snake-haired lady, or Capone, the guy who I was dreaming I was earlier this morning?Zebonka12 wrote: There was also originally a 'Fuck the Falklands' line in there somewhere which shows uncanny insight on Brian's part.So, you caught that too? And when played backwards it says "Capone is a tool, best was never made when lay to rest Freddie Rainbow release in 2017" |
| Mr.QueenFan 21.01.2013 19:07 |
Belladonic haze wrote: This one just mesmerizes me: linkI'm glad you've posted this video, because this is the only time i hear Freddie's voice so clear in the mix at 0:31- 0:36. Until now i've allways thought that it was Brian's guitar with a slide burried in the mix. As far as this song never being played live, my theory is that it was to personal for Brian. I believe he said that it was writen for Argentina - or Argentinian fans- so i think of this song as a love letter to that country. And considering the political environment in that country at that time- as well in other South American countries as Brazil- and the way they welcomed Queen, it's impossible not to "fall in love" with them. Very passionate fans, and i don't believe that the other countries would understsand or at least guive back to the band on stage the energy that Brian would expect on this number. To put it simply, for other countries it would be just another ballad, a beautifull song. But for Argentina it would be an Hymn or an anthem. Maybe Brian didn't want to cheap out the meaning of this song, because other audiences would not do justice to it. But this is a great song indeed. |
| Belladonic haze 22.01.2013 07:18 |
Yeah hmm, well, I wish it'd be listened to more here :)
An entire song dedicated to us... aw.
btw, Freddie's "acting" in that vid is absolutely mesmerizing. I could watch it in loop for hours, it soothes my soul.
Mr.QueenFan wrote:Belladonic haze wrote: This one just mesmerizes me: linkI'm glad you've posted this video, because this is the only time i hear Freddie's voice so clear in the mix at 0:31- 0:36. Until now i've allways thought that it was Brian's guitar with a slide burried in the mix. As far as this song never being played live, my theory is that it was to personal for Brian. I believe he said that it was writen for Argentina - or Argentinian fans- so i think of this song as a love letter to that country. And considering the political environment in that country at that time- as well in other South American countries as Brazil- and the way they welcomed Queen, it's impossible not to "fall in love" with them. Very passionate fans, and i don't believe that the other countries would understsand or at least guive back to the band on stage the energy that Brian would expect on this number. To put it simply, for other countries it would be just another ballad, a beautifull song. But for Argentina it would be an Hymn or an anthem. Maybe Brian didn't want to cheap out the meaning of this song, because other audiences would not do justice to it. But this is a great song indeed. |