QueenZone discussion #1335589

waunakonor wrote: I ended up going with The Miracle. I just love the way the album opens up; I think that Party, as well as Rain Must Fall, are vastly underrated on here. Party is just a really friggin' good time with an excellent guitar solo from Mr. May, and Rain Must Fall is also pretty fun with good lyrics and another very solid solo. Throw in stuff like I Want it All, Breakthru, Scandal and Was it All Worth It and you've got a really solid album, which edges Magic and Works in overall song quality, has a better sound (and less infamy) than Hot Space, and is about equal to The Game, but in the end I would generally prefer listening to Miracle over The Game. There's my take.

marc.s wrote: The Game for me. It's also the best production and I love all the songs on it. I might actually be in the minority who likes 'Don't Try Suicide'. For me, I always saw 'DTS' as a song about the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other, each telling the person conflicting things, hence the 'do it, don't do it' lines. As a kid it made sense to me that way and it still does.

Heavenite wrote:

marc.s wrote: The Game for me. It's also the best production and I love all the songs on it. I might actually be in the minority who likes 'Don't Try Suicide'. For me, I always saw 'DTS' as a song about the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other, each telling the person conflicting things, hence the 'do it, don't do it' lines. As a kid it made sense to me that way and it still does.

Interesting what you say about Don't Try Suicide. Early on I hated it with a passion too. But then it hit me like a ton of bricks and it has stuck with me ever since. Its wicked! "Don't put your neck on then line, Don't drown on me babe etc." And as they say, if you like it, play it. F**k what anyone else things....lol. ahh another DTS lover. That's my take on the song anyway and I've always liked 'em all on The Game. 'Coming Soon' gets a bit of stick too, but it's got a cool new wave feel I think. But the one two of 'Dragon Attack' and 'Another One Bites The Dust' is killer.

Heavenite wrote: Yes, Rock It! Another cool track off The Game. That's why it gets my 80's vote. Coz for me its solid all the way down. Every other 80's album lacks consistency in my opinion. Unless you count Flash Gordon, as that doesn't have any obvious weaknesses to me, even if it is a soundtrack.

Heavenite wrote: But not mine. Its not bad, but I'm not the biggest fan off either Scandal or Was It All Worth It. The latter seems to be one of the most popular Queen songs from the latter period I think, but I just don't buy it, at least the way others seem to. And that pitch adjustment on Freddie's voice is one of my most disliked moments in the whole Queen collection. Yet for my taste, Innuendo and Made in Heaven which followed next, basically top off anything Queen did in the 80's, although The Game gives them a nudge.

Heavenite wrote: I'm very glad Innuendo came out as I personally wouldn't have seen it as a great finisher to their career. Now The Show Must Go On? That was something else!

Bad Seed wrote: That's been auto tuned? Not sure about that mind?

Pingfah wrote: The Works has a few stone cold Pop classics like Radio Ga Ga and I want to Break Free but much of it is forgettable and dated.

waunakonor wrote:

Bad Seed wrote: That's been auto tuned? Not sure about that mind?

Auto tune wasn't around then. There are other ways of correcting pitches beside that.

Heavenite wrote: Whoops! Its actually Hang On In There that has that line it it. But Was It All Worth it hasn't been a huge favourite either, but much better than Hang On In There. The fast string-like" synths aren't very convincing to me and are a bit pretentious the way I see it. I'm very glad Innuendo came out as I personally wouldn't have seen it as a great finisher to their career. Now The Show Must Go On? That was something else!

tomchristie22 wrote:

Heavenite wrote: Whoops! Its actually Hang On In There that has that line it it. But Was It All Worth it hasn't been a huge favourite either, but much better than Hang On In There. The fast string-like" synths aren't very convincing to me and are a bit pretentious the way I see it. I'm very glad Innuendo came out as I personally wouldn't have seen it as a great finisher to their career. Now The Show Must Go On? That was something else!

I see where you're coming from. My confusion arose from the fact that I admittedly haven't even heard Hang On In There Before. I'm only a Queen fan of 4 years or something, and I only have the Single disc Universal CD's, in addition to the fact that The Miracle's never struck me as a great album, or at least one that appeals to me personally. I'll listen to it now though :P

Pingfah wrote: The Works has a few stone cold Pop classics like Radio Ga Ga and I want to Break Free but much of it is forgettable and dated.

IWtBF is forgettable and dated. Just saying.

waunakonor wrote:

Heavenite wrote: I'm very glad Innuendo came out as I personally wouldn't have seen it as a great finisher to their career. Now The Show Must Go On? That was something else!

I don't know if I prefer TSMGO or the end of MiH as the closer to Queen's career. Both work really well as grand finales in their own way. However, I like Worth It as well and think that would have made a pretty suitable closer as well. The Miracle, Innuendo and MiH all had pretty badass closers.

Heavenite wrote:

waunakonor wrote:

Heavenite wrote: I'm very glad Innuendo came out as I personally wouldn't have seen it as a great finisher to their career. Now The Show Must Go On? That was something else!

I don't know if I prefer TSMGO or the end of MiH as the closer to Queen's career. Both work really well as grand finales in their own way. However, I like Worth It as well and think that would have made a pretty suitable closer as well. The Miracle, Innuendo and MiH all had pretty badass closers.

Hi waunakonor I definitely agree with you about the Made in Heaven closer too ie "Its a Beautiful Day". Although I didn't go for the quiet bit of it all that much before, as it was originally so soft! However the volume seems to have been reset and increased on the recent box set version of the album and its much more listenable now.

Pingfah wrote:

Pingfah wrote: The Works has a few stone cold Pop classics like Radio Ga Ga and I want to Break Free but much of it is forgettable and dated.

IWtBF is forgettable and dated. Just saying.

Dated perhaps, but considering it is a globally known and remembered song nearly 30 years after it was released, I can't see how anybody could call it forgettable.

waunakonor wrote: That's interesting; I never thought of it like that. Some people complain that the 2011 remasters are too loud, and although that might be true at times, it's quite helpful for things that are were a bit too soft. Although when I get to the bit in the middle where it sounds like something is dropping on the ground suddenly, I jump a little.