| TheWorks84 30.12.2012 23:43 |
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| AlexRocks 31.12.2012 11:29 |
How sad! Animals don't have rights! They are meant to be eatten and to pull things! THAT IS IT! Of course there may be SOME logical things that I don't know about concerning certain environmental systems...but I think you catch my drift. |
| GratefulFan 31.12.2012 11:49 |
The concept of rights is a perfectly good construct to consider human treatment of animals as it is one that is universally understood and properly reflective of their status as sentient creatures. However, being PETA's person of the year is the rough equivalent of being Westboro Baptist's 'Missionary of the Month' or something. Among all the many ego addled semi terrorists with their swollen heads up their posteriors, you've really stood out. Congratulations. |
| inu-liger 01.01.2013 01:25 |
Yeah this has gotta sting... |
| john bodega 01.01.2013 09:36 |
PETA are a fucking joke. |
| GratefulFan 01.01.2013 14:40 |
Great Moments in PETA Activism: Your parents are monsters: link They're not fish, they're sea kittens. link As Canada was deeply rocked and unnerved by the beheading and consumption of Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus on a lonely stretch of highway in the dark prairie night, and as his stunned and grief wracked family dealt with this unimaginable horror, PETA thought this was a fantastic idea: link That 'ad' was run in the newspaper of the small, shaken town closest to the event. They did one based on Jeffrey Dahmer back in the day too. Mmmmm. Effective! |
| GratefulFan 01.01.2013 16:52 |
If some of you across the globe have not yet tucked in your children there's still time to read them something from PETA's sea kittens website. All the stories are wonderful and not bent in any way, but if you only have time for one I'd suggest flipping through the book to 'Sally and the Land Kittens'. If your children can't sleep after that, they can always create their own sea kitten at the link with hair and guitars and bowties and stuff. link |
| inu-liger 01.01.2013 17:37 |
This is the same organization that took a full 14 years to finally decide to pick on the Pokemon franchise. FOURTEEN YEARS! Fucking joke, they are. link link |
| Zaza Gabor 02.01.2013 11:40 |
LOL That's awful. A man can't even do a badger campaign without being named PETA's Person of the Year. Has he no rights? Where's this world going? |
| Holly2003 02.01.2013 12:19 |
I killed 8 rabbits, 3 badgers, 2 mice, numerous wasps, and one Spaniard last year. Where's my parade? |
| ParisNair 27.01.2013 05:56 |
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| mooghead 27.01.2013 14:59 |
"Brian May named PETA's Person of the Year for badger activism" I weep at this.. I remember when he played that guitar thing...... |
| The Real Wizard 27.01.2013 15:12 |
This thread sounds like people 20 years ago saying "who cares about gay people" 50 years ago saying "who cares about black people" 100 years ago saying "who cares about women" Dominion over animals ... a biblical idea that most people still adhere to today. One day our race will look back at the time when we killed animals as a dark time. There is absolutely no rational reason for any human to have to live at the expense of an animal. Money is a human construct, and there are plenty of alternatives available. Rosa Parks in 1955 is the animal rights movement of today. They are doing excellent work. But unfortunately it will be decades before the average joe realizes it. |
| tomchristie22 28.01.2013 00:52 |
The Real Wizard wrote: This thread sounds like people 20 years ago saying "who cares about gay people" 50 years ago saying "who cares about black people" 100 years ago saying "who cares about women" Dominion over animals ... a biblical idea that most people still adhere to today. One day our race will look back at the time when we killed animals as a dark time. There is absolutely no rational reason for any human to have to live at the expense of an animal. Money is a human construct, and there are plenty of alternatives available. Rosa Parks in 1955 is the animal rights movement of today. They are doing excellent work. But unfortunately it will be decades before the average joe realizes it.I'm not sure where I stand exactly with this issue, but that's definitely given me a new perspective. |
| Holly2003 28.01.2013 04:54 |
The Real Wizard wrote: This thread sounds like people 20 years ago saying "who cares about gay people" 50 years ago saying "who cares about black people" 100 years ago saying "who cares about women" Dominion over animals ... a biblical idea that most people still adhere to today. One day our race will look back at the time when we killed animals as a dark time. There is absolutely no rational reason for any human to have to live at the expense of an animal. Money is a human construct, and there are plenty of alternatives available. Rosa Parks in 1955 is the animal rights movement of today. They are doing excellent work. But unfortunately it will be decades before the average joe realizes it. If I had to make a guess I would say you are right about how future generations might look at some of our treatment of animals, particularly factory farming. However, there's a lot of assumptions on your part. For example: -- that history is a story of progression towards liberal attitudes: that's not necessarily the case and even if it were, there's no guarantee that's going to be the trend in the future, especially when the rise of mass media makes people so vulnerable to scares and propaganda. -- you equate animals with money: there is of course a lot of money associated with exploiting animals (just as there's a lot of money in growing vegetables, fruit etc) but animals=food is a better connection. The debate about vegetarian v. omnivorous diet etc is far from settled. (Please don't repeat the contents of the other thread about this: I've read through it and I'm not convinced either way but I also note people are arguing at the extremes -- an all protein diet v. an all vegetarian diet and haven't really discussed the reality, that most of us eat a mixture of the two and live very healthy lives. An extreme of one or the other might be unhealthy). -- it's quite possible future generations might be disgusted with our mass factory farming but may still not see animals as equals. You equate Rosa Parks's rights as a human being to the rights of an animal. I'm sure I'm not the only one uncomfortable with that comparison. Or are you seriously arguing that in the future a badger or fish will have the same rights as a human being? |
| GratefulFan 28.01.2013 07:24 |
The Real Wizard wrote: This thread sounds like people 20 years ago saying "who cares about gay people" 50 years ago saying "who cares about black people" 100 years ago saying "who cares about women" Dominion over animals ... a biblical idea that most people still adhere to today. One day our race will look back at the time when we killed animals as a dark time. There is absolutely no rational reason for any human to have to live at the expense of an animal. Money is a human construct, and there are plenty of alternatives available. Rosa Parks in 1955 is the animal rights movement of today. They are doing excellent work. But unfortunately it will be decades before the average joe realizes it.I find it ironic and equal parts amusing and annoying that you so often pontificate about "binary thinking" but are almost certainly the worst offender. The majority of this thread addresses the frequently contemptible PETA, not personal beliefs on animal rights. Any extrapolation to that has arisen in your head. The comparison with intellectual, moral and ethical errors of the past is fair but ultimately limited. We owe the animals we co-opt quality lives with all necessary considerations for physical, psychological and emotional health. Where we have failed and continue to fail at that we are wrong as we have been wrong in the past. But 'equality' as you see it is a human construct as well. Nature's view of equality is one reflected in an infinite circle where every element gives and takes with a collective wisdom that should inspire nothing but awe and humility. And if there is anything militant animal rights organizations are short on it's humility. All those inflated self worshipping heads up all those vegan asses. I despair for any future generations that have so disconnected from the natural world that they might look upon the killing of animals as "dark". Thankfully I'll be dead before we fully 'evolve' into eating in vitro beef and chicken. Only PETA and their ilk would be so egocentric to decide that it's better not to live at all than it is to live and die at the time of human choosing. But when a fox eats a mouse on his timetable they're wet with joy over the beauty of it all. They're largely fucking lunatics whose love is for themselves, projected narrowly onto animals they see in their own image . |