| TheWorks84 25.12.2012 20:23 |
Do you think there should be one final world tour or not? |
| madmetaltom 26.12.2012 00:10 |
No Merry Christmas |
| TheWorks84 26.12.2012 00:48 |
Happy Boxing Day to you to. |
| john bodega 26.12.2012 01:29 |
God I hope not. Not with that muppet. |
| matt z 26.12.2012 02:14 |
I don't think he has ANYTHING approaching a rock and roller voice. He's thin and tinny. Plus he looks like a fattening butch.... almost Eltonesque Still, sadly. ..if I have the money I will go to that tour. It will be my last chance to see A PART OF QUEEN live. Song wise it might be better than the Cosmos rocks.... mainly because it will be more of a compromise. However, it would be embarrassing |
| jeffuk49 26.12.2012 04:05 |
I would hope so, I know AL is a million miles from Freddie, however it was great to see Brian and Roger doing what they do best, I've been to every tour as Queen or solo since 84 and thought he was better than the kung fu Chuck Norris look a like they toured with, Queen was all about bad taste and camp and AL nailed that |
| cmsdrums 26.12.2012 04:58 |
I've said it before, but I really would like to see Brian and Roger do a 'Storytellers' type gig with different vocalists, where they delve into the catalogue to play lesser known hits and explain the stories behind them. As much as Queen have always been the archetypal big sound/lights/stageshow rock band, a more intimate performance would really concentrate on the songs, and the people behind them. Some tracks could be played true to the originals and some could be reworked tastefully (like Brian's various acoustic interludes on the AL dates for example). |
| Graeme Arnott 26.12.2012 05:01 |
freddie was all about camp, in the good old days Queen were a ROCK band. When they were with Paul they rocked again. |
| pittrek 26.12.2012 06:36 |
Adam has a GREAT voice, but there is one serious problem with him - HE F***ING CAN'T SING. I really hope Brian and John retire (I can't believe I'm actually writing this, I was SOOOO excited when they were touring with Paul), the 2012 shows were TERRIBLE. Brian can't play the guitar anymore, Roger can't drum anymore, it was VERY sad to see them :-( There is one, and I mean ONE thing which I liked - Roger's voice. He is still an amazing singer with a great voice. |
| brENsKi 26.12.2012 07:22 |
Pittrek wrote: Posted: 26 Dec 12, 06:36 I really hope Brian and John retire (I can't believe I'm actually writing this, I was SOOOO excited when they were touring with Paul), the 2012 shows were TERRIBLE. Brian can't play the guitar anymore, Roger can't drum anymore, it was VERY sad to see them :-( ____________________________ thought John ^^ retired in '98? |
| cmsdrums 26.12.2012 09:26 |
pittrek wrote: Adam has a GREAT voice, but there is one serious problem with him - HE F***ING CAN'T SING. I really hope Brian and John retire (I can't believe I'm actually writing this, I was SOOOO excited when they were touring with Paul), the 2012 shows were TERRIBLE. Brian can't play the guitar anymore, Roger can't drum anymore, it was VERY sad to see them :-( There is one, and I mean ONE thing which I liked - Roger's voice. He is still an amazing singer with a great voice.I don't agree with your thoughts on Brian - I thought he was as good, if not better, than for years on the AL show I went to; especially considering he didn't have Jamie on second guitar too. However, I sadly agree about Roger - I am one of his biggest fans and he is one of my all time drumming heroes, but he just has no stamina or power in his playing at all now; even on the cosmos rocks tour it was evident that his left hand hardly hits the snare now and almost just falls on it when playing, and this is so detrimental to his sound and style. He even had Rufus play TYMD - presumably it was too much for him that late in the set? |
| tomcat39 26.12.2012 13:18 |
I hope so, I'd like to buy a ticket. He's a talented kid, certainly a better singer than Paul was, respectful of the band and material. IDK why there is such viterol for viterol's sake around here. But nothing new on these boards. Somehow Paul managed to age Brian and Roger even more so. From what I did see of the Q+AL videos, Brian and Roger actually *gasp* looked like they were having fun, gave them a shot of youth. I saw Brian's tweet about it being possible that they'd do more shows. Having never seen either Brian or Roger live, I would certainly be there. |
| Holly2003 26.12.2012 13:46 |
tomcat39 wrote: I hope so, I'd like to buy a ticket. He's a talented kid, certainly a better singer than Paul was, respectful of the band and material. IDK why there is such viterol for viterol's sake around here. But nothing new on these boards. Somehow Paul managed to age Brian and Roger even more so. From what I did see of the Q+AL videos, Brian and Roger actually *gasp* looked like they were having fun, gave them a shot of youth. I saw Brian's tweet about it being possible that they'd do more shows. Having never seen either Brian or Roger live, I would certainly be there. ========================================================= Presumably you mean vitriol? It's not for vitriol's sake, as you suggest: some people like Lambert's voice and some don't. Welcome to the world of different opinions. As for aging, if you recall, Brian and Roger were very energetic and very keen when first working with PR. However, Brian, in particular, seemed to grow more disillusioned as their final tour wore on. I wonder how energetic Brian and Rog would be after 30 shows with Lambert? The problem with TCR is that they were too keen to keep PR on board, so the album ended up being PR + Queen instead of vice versa. So therefore we got a lot of mediocre bluesy songs (although to be fair to Rodgers, Brian and Roger's contributions were average too). |
| tomcat39 26.12.2012 14:33 |
My bad on the spelling, yes vitriol.. ;) I don't care one bit if people don't like Lambert's voice. Hell, I don't like his voice at times either. I wish I could cut up the set list they chose and toss the ones that aren't suited at all and suggest a few others. People not liking his voice is possibly the nicest thing said about him. He seems a decent guy, respectful and well Brian and Roger are the ones who know if the puzzle piece fits for them. Honestly, I didn't go to a PR tour nor follow it. They didn't come near where I live, so I wasn't even aware it was happening at the time. I had to look up videos of it. Paul is just a dud to me, sorry. However I didn't like his previous band either. I don't like his blues voice, it just didn't service the Queen material well at all. IF Brian and Roger do a tour again, I hope they keep it to a small amount of dates. 30 shows, I don't know if they would even be up for that. |
| tomchristie22 26.12.2012 18:30 |
If they're going to make a thing of them finishing up, they should go out on a high note. I don't think Adam Lambert would help them achieve that.. |
| Graeme Arnott 27.12.2012 00:35 |
Would there be public interest in a tour. Sonisphere indicates that in the UK perhaps not, It has to be noted that Paul pulled in quite a few of his fans on the previous tours. Lambert a better singer than Paul - lets wait around 42 years before judging on that. |
| john bodega 27.12.2012 01:02 |
"certainly a better singer than Paul was, respectful of the band and material" I dunno. He spent a similar amount of time filling the air with pointless trills and adlibs. The difference between Adam Lambert and Paul Rodgers is that Lambert was usually flat when he was doing it. Which was painful to listen to. Paul Rodgers' problem was that he was a sleazy douche. Honestly, Brian and Roger only need each other, and if that means they're playing to 500 people - so be it. I don't give a shit, it's not like they're coming to Australia. I'd only be seeing them play on Youtube, so it doesn't matter to me if they're filling stadiums or not. |
| matt z 27.12.2012 01:08 |
Hmmm....I always thought I was the one who suggested a guest lineup vh1 show! Long loooong ago! You re gonna have a date with my lawyer! ;-) Anyways it's not so important cause its not like to happen Lambert can reach notes few people can reach but his stage presence was nil To give em credit. .. they didn't seem adequately prepared.... still it DID look like they were having fun |
| TheWorks84 27.12.2012 08:49 |
Zebonka12 wrote: , it's not like they're coming to Australia. I'd only be seeing them play on Youtube, so it doesn't matter to me if they're filling stadiums or not.They haven't played here in Australia since 1985, which is the reason i think if a big tour does go ahead in the future, they should bloody well come to Aus and give us a damn good show. I'm not going to count on it though. |
| Hangman_96 27.12.2012 15:42 |
Please no more Queen + AL shows. Bring back Paul Rodgers! |
| GinjaNinja 27.12.2012 16:24 |
Please no more Queen + AL/Queen + PR shows. Bring back Tim Staffell! |
| tomcat39 27.12.2012 18:43 |
TheWorks84 wrote:Certainly not counting on it, but it kinda looks to me like something is in the works, so my hopes are up just a little bit. Why else would both Adam and Brian say 'It's possible, it's not a no' if there were no talks happening? QE not booked for the summer? Was loose lipped Spike alluding to plans months ago really true? Who knows if Australia is in the works, but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.Zebonka12 wrote: , it's not like they're coming to Australia. I'd only be seeing them play on Youtube, so it doesn't matter to me if they're filling stadiums or not.They haven't played here in Australia since 1985, which is the reason i think if a big tour does go ahead in the future, they should bloody well come to Aus and give us a damn good show. I'm not going to count on it though. I was not alive for the US tour with Freddie, the Q+PR tour did not come to my state, although at that time in my life I would not have been interested. But now, sure why not. Brian and Roger looked to be having fun and it's likely the only chance I'll ever get to see them. I think they should be very, very careful about number of dates and venues in the US. Looking at the stats on the Q+PR wiki page, they did way too many dates in too big of venues. Call it a limited run, special engagement, maybe 10 shows in North America tops including Canada. |
| john bodega 28.12.2012 05:04 |
I'd really hope that Brian is just being generous by being seen to keep the door open to Adam, at this point. He just was not up to snuff as a vocalist. It's frustrating to hear all of that off-key singing, and then see that there's still people who want him back for more! Did we even listen to the same shows? I get that he's the most convenient way to get Brian and Roger on stage, and maybe that last bit is more important to fans than hearing a solid performance, but it ain't that way for me. I'd rather there be no more Queen shows than anymore shite ones, and I say that as someone who's desperate to see Brian someday. Just a little sick of the half measures, is all. All of this trotting shit out with different singers and mini-tours - turning the Queen gigs into virtual open mic nights with those ridiculous guest singers (that absolutely tone deaf schmuck at Kiev - someone tells me he was a local X-Factor contestant, and I'll take their word for it). It might make Brian and Roger feel nice to give 20 seconds of stage time to a hack and make him feel on top of the world, but it's absolutely no fun as a listener to endure shit like that. It makes me happy on one level that Brian and Roger still play, but what frustrates me is that I have to sift through crap that does not interest me in order to get a listen. I'd love to see Brian play Good Company, for instance, but there's no way I'd pay to sit through Kerry Ellis. Brian and Roger doing Kind of Magic as well as they have been doing for the past few years - I'd sell your kidneys to be able to see that live! - but I just don't know that it would justify hearing Adam Lambert squeeze out another fresh turd into the airwaves. I just wish they'd shitcan the pointless guests. |
| TheWorks84 28.12.2012 07:03 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It makes me happy on one level that Brian and Roger still play, but what frustrates me is that I have to sift through crap that does not interest me in order to get a listen. I'd love to see Brian play Good Company, for instance, but there's no way I'd pay to sit through Kerry Ellis. Brian and Roger doing Kind of Magic as well as they have been doing for the past few years - I'd sell your kidneys to be able to see that live! - but I just don't know that it would justify hearing Adam Lambert squeeze out another fresh turd into the airwaves. I just wish they'd shitcan the pointless guests.Lets just face it, no one will ever be able to come close to the The great F.M. No matter who the singer is, it will be crap compared to what we have seen on dvd or youtube from the good old days. Enough said. |
| Pim Derks 28.12.2012 14:49 |
I just wish Brian and Roger would realize that everyone would be happy to just see them perform as a duo with back-upband. I'm sure they could've filled Hammersmith Odeon 2 or 3 times without Adam. Sure, they probably won't be able to fill an O2 Arena on their own - but so what? I'd love them to do a sort of Storytellers gig in small (1500-2000 seats?) venues, with them performing their own songs (Good Company, Tenement Funster, I'm In Love With My Car, '39) along with some of the biggest hits they wrote (GaGa, TYMD, Magic, FBG) while telling some stories about them in between songs. Would be awesome and I'd happily fly to wherever to see them. But more gigs with Lambert or another singer? No thanks. I WOULD like to see Paul Rodgers return though. I've seen them 13 times in 2005/2008 and it was awesome. |
| Hangman_96 28.12.2012 19:03 |
GinjaNinja wrote: Please no more Queen + AL/Queen + PR shows. Bring back Tim Staffell!This doesn't sound quite accurate. |
| brENsKi 29.12.2012 03:28 |
TheWorks84 wrote: Lets just face it, no one will ever be able to come close to the The great F.M. No matter who the singer is, it will be crap compared to what we have seen on dvd or youtube from the good old days.or live |
| john bodega 29.12.2012 05:59 |
"No matter who the singer is, it will be crap" See, I disagree with this. There have been a few great guest performances. Adam Lambert just wasn't at any of them. |
| TheWorks84 29.12.2012 09:32 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "No matter who the singer is, it will be crap" See, I disagree with this. There have been a few great guest performances. Adam Lambert just wasn't at any of them.I said 'crap' compared to Freddie, i did not say it would be crap in general. |
| john bodega 29.12.2012 11:29 |
Yeah, but the problem is that you're still wrong. Freddie was fucking amazing, but history has one or two fucking amazing singers in the ranks, and there won't be too many of them in the future if we stick our heads in the sand and say 'well everyone sucks compared to the dead guy'. That would be a very boring future for people who enjoy live music. |
| tomcat39 29.12.2012 20:03 |
Freddie was hardly perfect vocally live every single performance. There's no fan that can say he hit every single note perfect every single show, I wouldn't, that's just being honest. He was human. Yes he was an amazing vocalist, of course. Flawless, no. But it IS easy to say 'well everyone sucks compared to the dead guy'. And 20+ years is a long time to erase imperfect notes from the memory banks. As much as I disliked Paul's versions of the songs and his voice, it took some pretty big balls to try after all the years of Brian and Roger not touring. Who wants to follow Freddie? At least Paul had his own songs to sing as well (not that I would want any of Adam's in a setlist.) Adam being relatively new to the business, how he didn't puke seeing 250,000 fans in Kiev I have no idea. That's an amazing about of faith and support from Brian and Roger and an enormous amount of pressure. I'm guessing if THEY didn't think he did an ok job, that will be that and there will be no more shows with Adam. Lord knows I'm no Adam fan, but I will give him some credit where due. I'd love a Storytellers tour with Brian and Roger, that would be amazing. I'd go see them with Adam too, who I do think is a pretty decent vocalist, but they needed way more rehearsal before that Kiev gig. I can't imagine having a bad time, with Brian and Roger looking so damn happy doing what they love, it's infectious. I really enjoyed Roger and Adam doing Under Pressure together, fun stuff. And having fun is what matters, they are not young men. They aren't going to do this much longer,so go have fun! Can't think of a concert I've ever been to in my entire life where someone had immaculate vocals an entire show, so I don't lay such lofty expectations from a Queen show. |
| TheWorks84 30.12.2012 00:04 |
tomcat39 wrote: Freddie was hardly perfect vocally live every single performance.The constant smoking would not of helped his voice as well. |
| tomchristie22 30.12.2012 00:51 |
GinjaNinja wrote: Please no more Queen + AL/Queen + PR shows. Bring back Tim Staffell!Staffell sounds awesome on the Smile recordings, but his voice isn't exactly what it was in 1969. |
| Compliance Queen1 02.01.2013 07:50 |
Here we go again....bashing Paul Rodgers and now he is disrespectful and a douche?? If it wasn't for him..a lot of younger people would not have had a chance to see Brian and Roger..which was a good thing. To personally attack Paul Rodgers is not fair...you may not like his vocal style..let's not forget that Freddie himself admired Paul...I personally don't care for Freddie's 80's vocals but I am not calling him a douche. For that matter I don't care for AL....I am not calling him disrespectful or douche. Paul Rodgers is an iconic vocalist in his own right for rock and bluesy vocals. There's no reason to bash him--he deserves respect for his art. Enough said on that. For me as far as any future shows---Brian and Roger--NO guest vocalists--with a little help on drums and guitar....let's not forget that they are in their mid-60s and you can't expect either one of them to play like they did 30 and 40 years ago--so having say Rufus fill in for Roger or have the QE band help out here and there would be all right in my book..not that my book matters ;) Sorry for the rant...the PR comments set me off |
| Priyantha 02.01.2013 11:27 |
I've seen some videos from Adam and Brian and Roger, and I just love it :) Maybe it's also because that Adam Lambert is more from my own generation(I am born in January 1986 and he also in January but in 1982) and he gives a good show. He looks quite active on the stage which I like too ;) |
| thefallenqueen 02.01.2013 14:42 |
so what? you were born in 1986 - you'll be 27 this year and your generation is Adam Lambert? I'm confused. What has happened? Always thought he's attracting little girls who like funny outfits and silly haircut? Hope they won't do anything together. The collaboration with Paul Rodgers started in great tours and ended up in a new album. Let us pray this won't happen with Adam "the clown" Lambert... |
| DEMON 02.01.2013 15:47 |
i don't care if they tour with paul or adam.it is my only chance to see brian and roger and co live. and i am born in 1978 i found both voices from the new lead singers good. but they are very different and have very different styles. but they can never match freddie mercury. |
| jpgthfc 02.01.2013 17:59 |
'i don't care if they tour with paul or adam.it is my only chance to see brian and roger and co live. and i am born in 1978' Completely agree with you. I went to the first Q+AL concert at Hammersmith in July and they were fantastic. Obviously Adam is nothing compared to Freddie but it was great to see Brian and Roger (and Spike!) play live. Seeing as I was born in 1994, I haven't had much of a chance to see them play over the recent years. |
| john bodega 03.01.2013 05:07 |
"The collaboration with Paul Rodgers started in great tours and ended up in a new album" For what it's worth, I still reckon the Q+PR era was off to a good start. Paul Rodgers was giving it a bit of extra effort in the first few shows and the songs benefited from it. It went downhill once it became a proper tour, though. It got lazy, cruisy and/or sleazy - take your pick, they all work when describing Paul Rodgers' contribution. Still, I remember spending most of those 4/5 years having a faint optimism that the next thing they did would be better, and almost every time I was disappointed. Chucking hyperbole aside, the album wasn't the catastrophe that some people made it out to be, but that's not really what was wrong with it. If the best thing you can say about an album is 'it's not that bad', then I reckon it's not really coming up to Queen standards, is it? Which isn't to say that there weren't positives in the Q+PR stuff. Like I said, their early shows had some great moments. It was good to hear Brian and Roger do stuff. I still reckon Brian's "I Want It All" was better than Paul's. And I think all of the horribleness of seeing that swaggering old manwhore Rodgers sweat his way all over the autocue was worth it just to hear Brian playing Bijou again - definitely the nicest surprise in any setlist I can think of. On balance I don't even really like Q+PR, but I still reckon it was a better time than Q+AL, if for no other reason than Paul Rodgers wasn't constantly going offkey. His real problem was lyrics. God. Can you imagine them together? |
| Holly2003 03.01.2013 05:41 |
I can't figure out why Paul Rodgers kept telling us about his love for someone called Huw. Radio GaGa Radio GaGa Someone Still Lurves Huw Bizarre. |
| john bodega 03.01.2013 09:06 |
It annoyed me more when he'd say "HAIR'S TO THE FUTURE" during I Want It All. |
| cmsdrums 03.01.2013 10:30 |
Rodgers' constant attempt at singing like Whitney or Beyonce at the end of every line whilst mispronouncing it really grates on me. One of the worst has to be on 'Say It's Not Truuueeewwwe-ah' |