| GB: Queen Archivist 29.11.2012 22:25 |
Hello happy joyful Queenzone. It's been ages since I was here. So long, that I forgot my password and old email address - so I had to rejoin... Hence the slight name change. Anyway... Once again several people here are finding negatives and sinister hidden agendas (where there are none) in a simple and genuinely intended YouTube channel venture Gary T and I are setting up. These people could find something underhand and generally bad in a new born baby!! I'm always baffled at the tendency here to sway towards perceiving everything as having dark and secret motives. Gary and Greg surely must have some hidden secret agenda, right? We couldnt be doing it just because we are big fans and we love Queen memorabilia - having both been collectors since the 1970s. Apparently, according to some bright spark here, it's us being lazy and getting you guys to send us all your information for free. Or else it's QPL planning a cunning way of getting the fans to show us what they've got. Like we don't all know already what exists out there from a million fan site web pages. Well... No! It's none of the above. There's no clever ploy afoot, nothing sinister to debate until the cows come home or die of boredom reading this tired old predictable drivel. No, it's none of that rubbish. It is very simply two fans offering a forum for likeminded Queen fans to show and share their most interesting and significant treasures with fellow fans. Is that so hard to fathom. If you don't want to look or contribute, that's fine. It's not compulsory. It's just something different to do, if you fancy it. If you don't, then no one has lost or gained anything. This QZ forum has THE most suspicious and negative and mean-spirited fans of any other site. Can't the negative doom-mongers among you, just once, just for one little moment, look at this in a positive light. Regard it as something fun and interesting and constructive. Bring something good and intriguing to the table, instead of trying to knock it and cast unnecessary doubt and shadows. Certain people's tedious assertions here couldn't be wider of the mark if they tried... As usual, let's be honest. Gary and I knew that QZ would be the place that would have people thinking the worst right from the off. And so it is. Rare Share is a good thing for Queen fans. It's not about QPL or Gary or Greg being lazy. On the contrary... We got off our arses and did something for Queen fans. We offered something, conceived and created something new, brought something to the table... Which no one else here thought to do. 'Some' of you were the ones who did the easy thing.... The lazy thing.... You just reverted back to complain and moan mode again, and being suspicious. THAT is lazy. What we're doing, good or bad or total disaster, is at least us having a decent genuine Go! Give it a chance, and for goodness sake cheer up and come away from the dark sinister path you love so much here. Some of you (not all) need to get out more.... to more happy and vibrant 'fan' sites I mean! This one has made too many of you decidedly jaded and cynical. Isn't it time for just the tiniest change in attitude here?? GB (yes, the real one, before someone challenges that one- yet again) |
| FMRTJDBM 29.11.2012 22:49 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Hello happy joyful Queenzone. It's been ages since I was here. So long, that I forgot my password and old email address - so I had to rejoin... Hence the slight name change. Anyway... Once again several people here are finding negatives and sinister hidden agendas (where there are none) in a simple and genuinely intended YouTube channel venture Gary T and I are setting up. These people could find something underhand and generally bad in a new born baby!! I'm always baffled at the tendency here to sway towards perceiving everything as having dark and secret motives. Gary and Greg surely must have some hidden secret agenda, right? We couldnt be doing it just because we are big fans and we love Queen memorabilia - having both been collectors since the 1970s. Apparently, according to some bright spark here, it's us being lazy and getting you guys to send us all your information for free. Or else it's QPL planning a cunning way of getting the fans to show us what they've got. Like we don't all know already what exists out there from a million fan site web pages. Well... No! It's none of the above. There's no clever ploy afoot, nothing sinister to debate until the cows come home or die of boredom reading this tired old predictable drivel. No, it's none of that rubbish. It is very simply two fans offering a forum for likeminded Queen fans to show and share their most interesting and significant treasures with fellow fans. Is that so hard to fathom. If you don't want to look or contribute, that's fine. It's not compulsory. It's just something different to do, if you fancy it. If you don't, then no one has lost or gained anything. This QZ forum has THE most suspicious and negative and mean-spirited fans of any other site. Can't the negative doom-mongers among you, just once, just for one little moment, look at this in a positive light. Regard it as something fun and interesting and constructive. Bring something good and intriguing to the table, instead of trying to knock it and cast unnecessary doubt and shadows. Certain people's tedious assertions here couldn't be wider of the mark if they tried... As usual, let's be honest. Gary and I knew that QZ would be the place that would have people thinking the worst right from the off. And so it is. Rare Share is a good thing for Queen fans. It's not about QPL or Gary or Greg being lazy. On the contrary... We got off our arses and did something for Queen fans. We offered something, conceived and created something new, brought something to the table... Which no one else here thought to do. 'Some' of you were the ones who did the easy thing.... The lazy thing.... You just reverted back to complain and moan mode again, and being suspicious. THAT is lazy. What we're doing, good or bad or total disaster, is at least us having a decent genuine Go! Give it a chance, and for goodness sake cheer up and come away from the dark sinister path you love so much here. Some of you (not all) need to get out more.... to more happy and vibrant 'fan' sites I mean! This one has made too many of you decidedly jaded and cynical. Isn't it time for just the tiniest change in attitude here?? GB (yes, the real one, before someone challenges that one- yet again)My dear Greg negative will be always because QPL never do what we want. QPL always do how they want. Do you understand what I mean? |
| GB: Queen Archivist 29.11.2012 22:58 |
I'd like to add to my posting above with this... In response to some comments in the other Rare Share thread.... I'll paste the QZer's comments and reply in CAPITAL LETTERS... I don't know if yoy guys (GT and Greg Brooks) think you're clever, or you just think Queen fans are stupid, WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT GARY T AND I THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID? MANY OF OUR BEST FRIENDS IN THIS WORLD ARE QUEEN FANS. WE HAVE CREATED A QUEEN CHANNEL SOLELY AND EXCLUSIVELY FOR FANS. THESE ARE NOT THE ACTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID. ONLY A STUPID PERSON WOULD SUGGEST THIS . GARY AND I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES, AND INDEED WRITTEN IT IN SLEEVE NOTES, THAT WE REGARD OURSELVES FIRST AND FOREMOST... AS FANS. but you have to work on your comunication with the fans. ACTUALLY WE DONT. BOTH GARY AND I HAVE A GREAT RAPPORT WITH QUEEN FANS ALL AROUND THE WORLD. GARY ATTENDED THE DUTCH QFC CONVENTION LAST MONTH, AND I DID THE PRAGUE ONE LAST WEEK. WE BOTH GOT FABULOUS RECEPTIONS FROM HUNDREDS OF APPRECIATIVE RESPECTFUL FANS. AS ALWAYS. IT IS PURELY YOUR IMAGINATION THAT SEES IT THAT WAY.... BASED ON SPURIOUS NOTIONS THAT SEEM TO BE UNIQUE TO QZ. COME TO THE CONVENTIONS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF THE REACTION AND RAPPORT GT AND I HAVE WITH HUNDREDS OF FANS.... MANY OF WHOM ARE GREAT FRIENDS NOW. WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY. If you talk from the heart and be honest with fans you will receive back probably more than what you expect. WE DO THAT, AND HAVE DONE FOR MANY YEARS. AND YES WE EXPECT AND RECEIVE SOME WONDERFUL COMMENTS AND USEFUL CONTRUCTIVE SUGGESTINS. AGAIN IT'S YOU THAT PERCEIVES IT IN A SLANTED DISTORTED WAY. OPEN YOUR MIND AND ASK AROUND, AND YOU'LL FIND WE'RE ALREADY HONEST WITH FANS. Unfortunately, every time i see something related to Greg Brooks, it never seems to be what it appears. LIKE THE FREDDIE SOLO BOX, RECENT CARLTON BOOK, RECENT LYRICS BOOK, AND AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECT, YOU MEAN!!!! A relation between a band and it's fans is not just about taking, taking, taking. RARE SHARE IS ABOUT GIVING. IT'S ABOUT SHARING... THE CLUE IS IN THE NAME. HOW ON EARTH ARE WE 'TAKING'????? It's about giving as well. In this case we don't ask for nothing in return other than information. You guys want information, NO, WE DON'T WANT INFORMATION AT ALL. WE SIMPLY WOULD LIKE YOU THE FANS TO SHARE AND DEBATE YOUR FAVOURITE TREASURES. why not giving something back? SUCH AS A FREE FORUM TO SEE WONDERFUL QUEEN RARITIES YOU'D OTHERWISE NEVER GET A CHANCE TO SEE, DO YOU MEAN????? Why not make this a conversation, other than a one way comunication? BECAUSE IDIOTS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR INFLEXIBLE MIND UP. YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THAT A CANNEL CALLED RARE SHARE IS ABOUT SHARING AND NOT TAKING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THERE'S NO HEALTHY DIALOGUE ANY MORE!? |
| tcc 29.11.2012 23:11 |
I recommend that you read "How To Win Friends And Influence People" :-) |
| FMRTJDBM 29.11.2012 23:39 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: I'd like to add to my posting above with this... In response to some comments in the other Rare Share thread.... I'll paste the QZer's comments and reply in CAPITAL LETTERS... I don't know if yoy guys (GT and Greg Brooks) think you're clever, or you just think Queen fans are stupid, WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT GARY T AND I THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID? MANY OF OUR BEST FRIENDS IN THIS WORLD ARE QUEEN FANS. WE HAVE CREATED A QUEEN CHANNEL SOLELY AND EXCLUSIVELY FOR FANS. THESE ARE NOT THE ACTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID. ONLY A STUPID PERSON WOULD SUGGEST THIS . GARY AND I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES, AND INDEED WRITTEN IT IN SLEEVE NOTES, THAT WE REGARD OURSELVES FIRST AND FOREMOST... AS FANS. but you have to work on your comunication with the fans. ACTUALLY WE DONT. BOTH GARY AND I HAVE A GREAT RAPPORT WITH QUEEN FANS ALL AROUND THE WORLD. GARY ATTENDED THE DUTCH QFC CONVENTION LAST MONTH, AND I DID THE PRAGUE ONE LAST WEEK. WE BOTH GOT FABULOUS RECEPTIONS FROM HUNDREDS OF APPRECIATIVE RESPECTFUL FANS. AS ALWAYS. IT IS PURELY YOUR IMAGINATION THAT SEES IT THAT WAY.... BASED ON SPURIOUS NOTIONS THAT SEEM TO BE UNIQUE TO QZ. COME TO THE CONVENTIONS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF THE REACTION AND RAPPORT GT AND I HAVE WITH HUNDREDS OF FANS.... MANY OF WHOM ARE GREAT FRIENDS NOW. WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY. If you talk from the heart and be honest with fans you will receive back probably more than what you expect. WE DO THAT, AND HAVE DONE FOR MANY YEARS. AND YES WE EXPECT AND RECEIVE SOME WONDERFUL COMMENTS AND USEFUL CONTRUCTIVE SUGGESTINS. AGAIN IT'S YOU THAT PERCEIVES IT IN A SLANTED DISTORTED WAY. OPEN YOUR MIND AND ASK AROUND, AND YOU'LL FIND WE'RE ALREADY HONEST WITH FANS. Unfortunately, every time i see something related to Greg Brooks, it never seems to be what it appears. LIKE THE FREDDIE SOLO BOX, RECENT CARLTON BOOK, RECENT LYRICS BOOK, AND AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECT, YOU MEAN!!!! A relation between a band and it's fans is not just about taking, taking, taking. RARE SHARE IS ABOUT GIVING. IT'S ABOUT SHARING... THE CLUE IS IN THE NAME. HOW ON EARTH ARE WE 'TAKING'????? It's about giving as well. In this case we don't ask for nothing in return other than information. You guys want information, NO, WE DON'T WANT INFORMATION AT ALL. WE SIMPLY WOULD LIKE YOU THE FANS TO SHARE AND DEBATE YOUR FAVOURITE TREASURES. why not giving something back? SUCH AS A FREE FORUM TO SEE WONDERFUL QUEEN RARITIES YOU'D OTHERWISE NEVER GET A CHANCE TO SEE, DO YOU MEAN????? Why not make this a conversation, other than a one way comunication? BECAUSE IDIOTS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR INFLEXIBLE MIND UP. YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THAT A CANNEL CALLED RARE SHARE IS ABOUT SHARING AND NOT TAKING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THERE'S NO HEALTHY DIALOGUE ANY MORE!? ================================================================================== AND AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECT we need more details, please |
| jozef 30.11.2012 00:37 |
Sorry Greg, but the company you represent is full of arrogant bastards who manage the estate of the Queen only interested in maximum profit with minimal effort and a very stupid way ... And don't say that this was the last 20 years different story ...... I'm 49 years old and Queen fan from 1978, but into today I can't to buy any official concert video (or new full audio) with Freddie without moustache ... WHY???? (sorry for my really terrible english ...) |
| john bodega 30.11.2012 00:57 |
"today I can't to buy any official concert video (or new full audio) with Freddie without moustache ... WHY????" I think it's just a case of Brian underestimating what people are willing to pay for. He's mentioned the bad image quality of the 70's gigs before as being a factor - who cares? The fact that Georges Méliès' film "Le Voyage dans la lune" isn't in colour 1080p doesn't stop it from being a worthy buy. Gigs in the 70's were shot on shitty videotape. We don't care, Brian. Get that stuff out the door. As to the rare Queen stuff channel - I don't know why anyone has a problem either way. It's obviously not a subject matter that'll do it for everyone, but it's nothing to get upset about. |
| cmsdrums 30.11.2012 01:21 |
Go on then, I'll bite, as you obviously mention purely to get a reaction: I'm not quite sure Greg how you can expect us to take a view on the quality of 'the amazing new Rainbow project' when we have no details about it. We'll all hope however that it is a fantastic fault free project (unlike most of the other items you name that have borne your name somewhere and contains either massive and obvious, or lesser but still equally annoying, errors). |
| mooghead 30.11.2012 01:29 |
As long as the stuff on the new channel is as interesting and insightful as the stuff QPL have so politely threatened other people to take down I don't see a problem. I certainly am not going to comment on content before having seen it like a lot of people here do. That would be ridiculous. Experience tells me I will be slightly underwhelmed though.... |
| Marknow 30.11.2012 01:49 |
First of Greg, nice to see you, hope you are well. I called this pointless in the other thread, and leaned to the fact you are doing this to get others to fill in the blanks. I stand by that. I do collect memorabilia, but simply feel the subject is not worthy of a you tube channel, nothing personal, okay? Now... ___________________________________________________________________________________ GB: Queen Archivist wrote: This QZ forum has THE most suspicious and negative and mean-spirited fans of any other site. Can't the negative doom-mongers among you, just once, just for one little moment, look at this in a positive light. Regard it as something fun and interesting and constructive. Bring something good and intriguing to the table, instead of trying to knock it and cast unnecessary doubt and shadows. Certain people's tedious assertions here couldn't be wider of the mark if they tried... As usual, let's be honest. Gary and I knew that QZ would be the place that would have people thinking the worst right from the off. And so it is. Give it a chance, and for goodness sake cheer up and come away from the dark sinister path you love so much here. Some of you (not all) need to get out more.... to more happy and vibrant 'fan' sites I mean! This one has made too many of you decidedly jaded and cynical. Isn't it time for just the tiniest change in attitude here?? ____________________________________________________________________________________ There is absolutely no difference in the reaction to this project on QZ, than there has been on the official site QOL http://discuss.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4659 People over there have expressed the EXACT same reservations about intentions, the point of the project, and confusion about no rare audio/video media being shown. Why you need to come on here and try to draw some distinction in attitude between here and anywhere else is beyond me. Read the thread on QOL, and sort your own backyard before you come over here talking crap. Contact the mods @ QOL and ask them how often they delete negative comments,not just bad language and dumb posts about Aids, I think you would be surprised. You are in for some sharp education too when you get the channel up and running if you are managing the comments section, You-tubers can be real nasty fuckers, but sure you can blame it all on QZ.... ;) Best of luck to both of you, hope it goes well. |
| pittrek 30.11.2012 01:50 |
Why don't "I personally" like the idea of the "Rare share" channel : 1. It is absolutely pointless. It reminds me on all the videos of 35 year old nerds living in their parents basement showing proudly their huge Star Wars collection. 2. I just don't see a reason for creating videos of "static objects". Wouldn't a website be much more appropriate for the type of things you are trying to achieve? You know, something wikipedia-style where users can create the content ? Or a book ? Similar to the book which was announced many years ago but never was released ? 3. Why can't the users upload e.g. their live videos ? You know, there are many people on various places of the planet who own Queen-related concerts which you don't have in the archives, this would be a nice opportunity for them to upload some samples, don't you think ? There are also many people on this planet who own perfect photos shot live during Queen concerts, this would be a perfect opportunity to share them somehow (imagine a slideshow of never seen before pictures synchronized with a rare audience recording from the same concert). Also what about some TV reports ? So that you can rip them from youtube in 240p and use them for your next Bluray ? :-) Honestly, you can do anything you luck and I wish you guys good luck. However this project is definitely not interesting for me, so you can't expect me to be excited. But I'm sure there are people who will like it |
| pittrek 30.11.2012 01:51 |
And I forgot - you are REALLY preparing a Rainbow boxset ? See, THAT IS EXCITING !!! |
| Marknow 30.11.2012 02:12 |
I too would like to hear more about the Rainbow project. |
| cmsdrums 30.11.2012 04:05 |
"Hate Queen? Head over to link to hook up with loads of other Queen haters"!!! |
| Holly2003 30.11.2012 04:57 |
Storm in a teacup, as usual. The website isn't for me, but I can see some people liking it. More treading water really. But we're still back to square one on the genuinely interesting topic -- when might Queen stop re-releasing stuff and instead give fans what they want: 1970s concerts & rarities collections. As for the Rainbow box set, I'll believe it when I see it. I might even buy it if they don't make a horse's arse out of it. I suspect many fans are now so jaded waiting for early material they will only buy it if it's exceptionally interesting, well-packaged etc. Just sticking the Queen label on anything and hoping it will sell just isn;t enough for me any more. |
| oliverd05 30.11.2012 05:37 |
Yeahh im kinda excited by this new Channel, as i hope we'll see something actual new eg. demos weve not heard before without GB saying Property Of Queen Productions over the top so we cant hear it haha :P (maybe naively thinking this!!) Also i kinda see the problem with all you other guys, weve not had anything NEW for a long long time, and as for the "exciting new Rainbow Project" its been ongoing now for a number of years, i dont think well see it anytime soon, BUT... i would absolutely LOVE to be proved wrong :) |
| cmsdrums 30.11.2012 06:05 |
Like some others, I won't take the fact that they areworking on a Rainbow box set as definitive proof that it will see the light of day. BBC Sessions album and Hammersmith 75 DVD are just two projects actualy officially confirmed but that then got shelved, so for me it's 'once (or several times) bitten, twice shy' I'm afraid. |
| earwig 30.11.2012 06:47 |
I too hate negativity. It perpetuates itself way too easily!! So yes, lets welcome this new youtube channel with the spirit it's meant. And no - I'm not being sarcastic or ironic!!! ...now then... about this Rainbow project... I CAN'T WAIT!!! And I won't care that it was shot on 2" Quad 625 lines. It will STILL be amazing to have (and I can stop wearing out my Box of Tricks VHS). DVD standard def is just fine ;-) So may I say Greg & Gary - THANKS!!! |
| DLCVinnuendo 30.11.2012 07:16 |
we need 70's releases, and they give this to us? a very non sense thing, show a queen collection that a saw many on the internet... |
| people on streets 30.11.2012 07:18 |
pittrek wrote: Why don't "I personally" like the idea of the "Rare share" channel : 1. It is absolutely pointless. It reminds me on all the videos of 35 year old nerds living in their parents basement showing proudly their huge Star Wars collection. 2. I just don't see a reason for creating videos of "static objects". Wouldn't a website be much more appropriate for the type of things you are trying to achieve? You know, something wikipedia-style where users can create the content ? Or a book ? Similar to the book which was announced many years ago but never was released ? 3. Why can't the users upload e.g. their live videos ? You know, there are many people on various places of the planet who own Queen-related concerts which you don't have in the archives, this would be a nice opportunity for them to upload some samples, don't you think ? There are also many people on this planet who own perfect photos shot live during Queen concerts, this would be a perfect opportunity to share them somehow (imagine a slideshow of never seen before pictures synchronized with a rare audience recording from the same concert). Also what about some TV reports ? So that you can rip them from youtube in 240p and use them for your next Bluray ? :-) Honestly, you can do anything you luck and I wish you guys good luck. However this project is definitely not interesting for me, so you can't expect me to be excited. But I'm sure there are people who will like itWell said. I agree 100% |
| DLCVinnuendo 30.11.2012 07:29 |
about the rainbow project, it's very nice, but, I will only believe this project when I see it with my own eyes in stores |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 08:04 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: I'd like to add to my posting above with this... In response to some comments in the other Rare Share thread.... I'll paste the QZer's comments and reply in CAPITAL LETTERS... I don't know if yoy guys (GT and Greg Brooks) think you're clever, or you just think Queen fans are stupid, WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT GARY T AND I THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID? MANY OF OUR BEST FRIENDS IN THIS WORLD ARE QUEEN FANS. WE HAVE CREATED A QUEEN CHANNEL SOLELY AND EXCLUSIVELY FOR FANS. THESE ARE NOT THE ACTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID. ONLY A STUPID PERSON WOULD SUGGEST THIS . GARY AND I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES, AND INDEED WRITTEN IT IN SLEEVE NOTES, THAT WE REGARD OURSELVES FIRST AND FOREMOST... AS FANS. but you have to work on your comunication with the fans. ACTUALLY WE DONT. BOTH GARY AND I HAVE A GREAT RAPPORT WITH QUEEN FANS ALL AROUND THE WORLD. GARY ATTENDED THE DUTCH QFC CONVENTION LAST MONTH, AND I DID THE PRAGUE ONE LAST WEEK. WE BOTH GOT FABULOUS RECEPTIONS FROM HUNDREDS OF APPRECIATIVE RESPECTFUL FANS. AS ALWAYS. IT IS PURELY YOUR IMAGINATION THAT SEES IT THAT WAY.... BASED ON SPURIOUS NOTIONS THAT SEEM TO BE UNIQUE TO QZ. COME TO THE CONVENTIONS AND SEE FOR YOURSELF THE REACTION AND RAPPORT GT AND I HAVE WITH HUNDREDS OF FANS.... MANY OF WHOM ARE GREAT FRIENDS NOW. WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY. If you talk from the heart and be honest with fans you will receive back probably more than what you expect. WE DO THAT, AND HAVE DONE FOR MANY YEARS. AND YES WE EXPECT AND RECEIVE SOME WONDERFUL COMMENTS AND USEFUL CONTRUCTIVE SUGGESTINS. AGAIN IT'S YOU THAT PERCEIVES IT IN A SLANTED DISTORTED WAY. OPEN YOUR MIND AND ASK AROUND, AND YOU'LL FIND WE'RE ALREADY HONEST WITH FANS. Unfortunately, every time i see something related to Greg Brooks, it never seems to be what it appears. LIKE THE FREDDIE SOLO BOX, RECENT CARLTON BOOK, RECENT LYRICS BOOK, AND AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECT, YOU MEAN!!!! A relation between a band and it's fans is not just about taking, taking, taking. RARE SHARE IS ABOUT GIVING. IT'S ABOUT SHARING... THE CLUE IS IN THE NAME. HOW ON EARTH ARE WE 'TAKING'????? It's about giving as well. In this case we don't ask for nothing in return other than information. You guys want information, NO, WE DON'T WANT INFORMATION AT ALL. WE SIMPLY WOULD LIKE YOU THE FANS TO SHARE AND DEBATE YOUR FAVOURITE TREASURES. why not giving something back? SUCH AS A FREE FORUM TO SEE WONDERFUL QUEEN RARITIES YOU'D OTHERWISE NEVER GET A CHANCE TO SEE, DO YOU MEAN????? Why not make this a conversation, other than a one way comunication? BECAUSE IDIOTS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR INFLEXIBLE MIND UP. YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THAT A CANNEL CALLED RARE SHARE IS ABOUT SHARING AND NOT TAKING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THERE'S NO HEALTHY DIALOGUE ANY MORE!? Greg, we need more details about AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECT |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 08:28 |
Greg, we need more details about AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECT |
| GB: Queen Archivist 30.11.2012 08:53 |
Rare Share: Queen Collectibles is a YouTube based channel, not a web site. It is NOT going to feature any Queen music or videos. It's not gonna give you rare demoes and out-takes, nor anything remotely like that. It's purely about memorabilia sharing, and discussing rarity and value, and the history of certain enigmatic and/or long forgotten Queen related gems. Queen music, footage, rarities and LP covers, are NOT ours to play with or feature without permission. We have no more rights to QPL property than you do. What we CAN do... Is share all our fabulous treasures collected over 40 years, and offer them up for general conversation... Or to view in close up detail if you've never seen them before. If you like that kind of stuff, it'll be great and you'll love it. If you don't, then stay away and do something else... While letting those that do like it, get on with it to their heart's content. It's no more complex than that. GB |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 09:00 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Rare Share: Queen Collectibles is a YouTube based channel, not a web site. It is NOT going to feature any Queen music or videos. It's not gonna give you rare demoes and out-takes, nor anything remotely like that. It's purely about memorabilia sharing, and discussing rarity and value, and the history of certain enigmatic and/or long forgotten Queen related gems. Queen music, footage, rarities and LP covers, are NOT ours to play with or feature without permission. We have no more rights to QPL property than you do. What we CAN do... Is share all our fabulous treasures collected over 40 years, and offer them up for general conversation... Or to view in close up detail if you've never seen them before. If you like that kind of stuff, it'll be great and you'll love it. If you don't, then stay away and do something else... While letting those that do like it, get on with it to their heart's content. It's no more complex than that. GB Greg, we need more details about AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECT |
| DLCVinnuendo 30.11.2012 09:10 |
It is clear that Greg will not give information about the project "Rainbow" at this time, the only thing to do now it's wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, and wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, more wait, wait... |
| Doga 30.11.2012 09:12 |
--Gigs in the 70's were shot on shitty videotape. We don't care, Brian. Get that stuff out the door. -- Hyde Park was filmed in amazing 16mm, batter than a lot of 80' gigs |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 09:14 |
DLCVinnuendo wrote: It is clear that Greg will not give information about the project "Rainbow" at this time, the only thing to do now it's wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, and wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, more wait, wait... huh, and in the end we get...........NOTHING or another one reissue |
| Kevinrm15 30.11.2012 09:28 |
Doga wrote: --Gigs in the 70's were shot on shitty videotape. We don't care, Brian. Get that stuff out the door. -- Hyde Park was filmed in amazing 16mm, batter than a lot of 80' gigsHyde Park was not shot on film, but video. |
| Senna 30.11.2012 09:54 |
Hang on a second some people would give their right arm for that star wars collection. |
| Doga 30.11.2012 09:58 |
According to queenlive.ca, an incredible source of Queen knowledge, HP was shoot on 16 mm. |
| Hangman_96 30.11.2012 10:11 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Rare Share: Queen Collectibles is a YouTube based channel, not a web site. It is NOT going to feature any Queen music or videos. It's not gonna give you rare demoes and out-takes, nor anything remotely like that. It's purely about memorabilia sharing, and discussing rarity and value, and the history of certain enigmatic and/or long forgotten Queen related gems. Queen music, footage, rarities and LP covers, are NOT ours to play with or feature without permission. We have no more rights to QPL property than you do. What we CAN do... Is share all our fabulous treasures collected over 40 years, and offer them up for general conversation... Or to view in close up detail if you've never seen them before. If you like that kind of stuff, it'll be great and you'll love it. If you don't, then stay away and do something else... While letting those that do like it, get on with it to their heart's content. It's no more complex than that. GBGreg, most of us DO like the idea of this profect, and we therefore thank you a lot for that. But there's ONE thing we'd all like to have an answer to. Please, please tell us more about that very Rainbow project! Can you please, at least, shed some light on it? What is it going to be at all anyway? |
| Hangman_96 30.11.2012 10:20 |
Honestly, I feel like all our Rainbow questions are going to be ignored no matter what. |
| Hangman_96 30.11.2012 10:20 |
If it's not another lie, then Greg please tell us more about... please do! |
| aber 30.11.2012 10:39 |
Why the negativity? Because WE WANT ONE OF 70'S CONCERTS first, and then you can show us some rarities... |
| cmsdrums 30.11.2012 10:59 |
Stop begging him for Rainbow details - it's a prick tease as usual |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 11:30 |
cmsdrums wrote: Stop begging him for Rainbow details - it's a prick tease as usual No, don't stop us now we want to know |
| Ozz 30.11.2012 11:33 |
>"This QZ forum has THE most suspicious and negative and mean-spirited fans of any other site." Greg, lets remember you are part of this forum too. and in fact you contribute with a lot of negativity and insults and cap locks in your own posts. The YouTube channel looks at first sight as a poor approach to have community participation and information about collectibles that could feed future book releases. It's completely fair that FANS maybe want the effort, money and energy being spend in long delayed 70's material instead. I suggest you to improve your PR skills because, ranting towards your audience, expecting them to be a bunch of "YES YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME" kind of fans, doesn't help at all for you to be better at your job. One thing is to be open to dialog and criticism and other is just open the communication channel because SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET IS WRONG. Good luck anyway. I'm sure fans will review the channel anyway. I will. |
| MERQRY 30.11.2012 11:45 |
Doga wrote: According to queenlive.ca, an incredible source of Queen knowledge, HP was shoot on 16 mm.Stored on 16 mm doesn't mean recorded on 16 mm... Hyde Park was shoot on video. it doesn't look like film even in the best source (the last official Queen documentary). |
| Mr.QueenFan 30.11.2012 12:24 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT GARY T AND I THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID? MANY OF OUR BEST FRIENDS IN THIS WORLD ARE QUEEN FANS. ONLY A STUPID PERSON WOULD SUGGEST THIS . ................... Why not make this a conversation, other than a one way comunication? BECAUSE IDIOTS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR INFLEXIBLE MIND UP. YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THAT A CANNEL CALLED RARE SHARE IS ABOUT SHARING AND NOT TAKING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THERE'S NO HEALTHY DIALOGUE ANY MORE!?Show some Respect! You're the main reason on why there is not healthy dialogue anymore. Of course you will allways get the negative response- this is the Internet- but you can't use that as an excuse for your tone on Queenzone, because there are some Queenzoners (me included) that care for this site, and try hard into bringing something to the table. Even when you guys (QP) don't bother to contribute nothing of value. Rare sharing it's about information exchange, and i'm not against it. Read again my first post. The thing is that you keep denying what is obvious. If fans are "nice" to you is because they have an interest in being friends with you- they want to hear the rarities- and you know that it is so. I'm not interested in being your friend- neither in person or on facebook- because i don't care, and that's why i can say what i really think of you- or your "internet personality". Of course that if i atend a fan convention i may be exposed to a diferent Greg, but i only know you from your interactions with fans here on QZ. And i'm not interested in knowing you in person. You couldn't handle my no-bullshit aproach! One thing is your interaction in fan conventions and another thing is your interactions in forums on the internet. You've talked about bringing something to the table. What do you bring to the table? AT least in Queenzone, where you come when you want something? Once you have what you whant you don't even bother in writing again. You just move on, and doesn't contribute a thing. This has been my Queenzone experience. I don't know you on other forums, but you've donne this in the past. Asked for help in Queenzone, and then bye bye! And this is what i'm saying, you don't give a shit about fans, and that's the truth! You only care about fans when they have something of interest to you. You think they're stupid, and that is why you have this condescending tone. The PR for this new project really proves my point. You should go to politics! Something to refresh your memory: link Remember this Topic? Probably one of the best topics EVER in Queenzone related to video information about Queen. Read again how much information you got, and then read your output. Compare it. Get the point? I know what you're thinking. There was a deal you've made with the fans with the approval of Jim Beach, and you opened a different topic. Here it is: link Read again your contribution, and then read the QZer's contribution. Compare it. Once you've got the information, you never cared to post there anymore. And people weren't being nasty towards you. There were some questions concerning that consciously incomplete list that you never cared to answer. And before you gave something back to the fans in trade for the absurd amounts of information you got in return, four months have passed. FOUR MONTHS! And you never gave anything. You negotiated! I would love to see Greg Brooks log in Queenzone once in a while and just share a thought, something new without asking for anything in return. But unfortunately we only hear from you guys when a new press release is ... released! But it's obvious that you and other people from "inside" reads QZ, you just don't care to contribute unless you want something. Of course you will allways get negativity in Queenzone, and i'm against it too! But you have to understand to separate the ones who criticize in a constructive way. My post wasn't negative, just objective, based on past interactions between QZ and you. Because in the past you've desrespected the ones who were very supportive towards you. Of course you were disrespected too, and i'm against it, but that's not an excuse the disrespect everyone else. |
| DJGreg 30.11.2012 12:34 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Rare Share: Queen Collectibles is a YouTube based channel, not a web site. It is NOT going to feature any Queen music or videos. It's not gonna give you rare demoes and out-takes, nor anything remotely like that. It's purely about memorabilia sharing, and discussing rarity and value, and the history of certain enigmatic and/or long forgotten Queen related gems. Queen music, footage, rarities and LP covers, are NOT ours to play with or feature without permission. We have no more rights to QPL property than you do. What we CAN do... Is share all our fabulous treasures collected over 40 years, and offer them up for general conversation... Or to view in close up detail if you've never seen them before. If you like that kind of stuff, it'll be great and you'll love it. If you don't, then stay away and do something else... While letting those that do like it, get on with it to their heart's content. It's no more complex than that. GBVery very bad. |
| pittrek 30.11.2012 13:01 |
MERQRY wrote:The concert itself was shot undoubtedly on video. The pre-concert footage looks like filmDoga wrote: According to queenlive.ca, an incredible source of Queen knowledge, HP was shoot on 16 mm.Stored on 16 mm doesn't mean recorded on 16 mm... Hyde Park was shoot on video. it doesn't look like film even in the best source (the last official Queen documentary). |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 13:05 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:GB: Queen Archivist wrote: WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT GARY T AND I THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID? MANY OF OUR BEST FRIENDS IN THIS WORLD ARE QUEEN FANS. ONLY A STUPID PERSON WOULD SUGGEST THIS . ................... Why not make this a conversation, other than a one way comunication? BECAUSE IDIOTS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR INFLEXIBLE MIND UP. YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THAT A CANNEL CALLED RARE SHARE IS ABOUT SHARING AND NOT TAKING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THERE'S NO HEALTHY DIALOGUE ANY MORE!?Show some Respect! You're the main reason on why there is not healthy dialogue anymore. Of course you will allways get the negative response- this is the Internet- but you can't use that as an excuse for your tone on Queenzone, because there are some Queenzoners (me included) that care for this site, and try hard into bringing something to the table. Even when you guys (QP) don't bother to contribute nothing of value. Rare sharing it's about information exchange, and i'm not against it. Read again my first post. The thing is that you keep denying what is obvious. If fans are "nice" to you is because they have an interest in being friends with you- they want to hear the rarities- and you know that it is so. I'm not interested in being your friend- neither in person or on facebook- because i don't care, and that's why i can say what i really think of you- or your "internet personality". Of course that if i atend a fan convention i may be exposed to a diferent Greg, but i only know you from your interactions with fans here on QZ. And i'm not interested in knowing you in person. You couldn't handle my no-bullshit aproach! One thing is your interaction in fan conventions and another thing is your interactions in forums on the internet. You've talked about bringing something to the table. What do you bring to the table? AT least in Queenzone, where you come when you want something? Once you have what you whant you don't even bother in writing again. You just move on, and doesn't contribute a thing. This has been my Queenzone experience. I don't know you on other forums, but you've donne this in the past. Asked for help in Queenzone, and then bye bye! And this is what i'm saying, you don't give a shit about fans, and that's the truth! You only care about fans when they have something of interest to you. You think they're stupid, and that is why you have this condescending tone. The PR for this new project really proves my point. You should go to politics! Something to refresh your memory: http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/981344.html Remember this Topic? Probably one of the best topics EVER in Queenzone related to video information about Queen. Read again how much information you got, and then read your output. Compare it. Get the point? I know what you're thinking. There was a deal you've made with the fans with the approval of Jim Beach, and you opened a different topic. Here it is: http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1027435.html Read again your contribution, and then read the QZer's contribution. Compare it. Once you've got the information, you never cared to post there anymore. And people weren't being nasty towards you. There were some questions concerning that consciously incomplete list that you never cared to answer. And before you gave something back to the fans in trade for the absurd amounts of information you got in return, four months have passed. FOUR MONTHS! And you never gave anything. You negotiated! I would love to see Greg Brooks log in Queenzone once in a while and just share a thought, something new without asking for anything in return. But unfortunately we only hear from you guys when a new press release is ... released! But it's obvious that you and other people from "inside" reads QZ, you just don't care to contribute unless you want something. Of course you will allways get negativity in Queenzone, and i'm against it too! But you have to understand to separate the ones who criticize in a constructive way. My post wasn't negative, just objective, based on past interactions between QZ and you. Because in the past you've desrespected the ones who were very supportive towards you. Of course you were disrespected too, and i'm against it, but that's not an excuse the disrespect everyone else. I'm sorry but I am agree with you. He provides incomplete information, besides, he blatantly lied. here is example his letter which he sent to me long time ago. Yes the Queens real official archives are having Hammersmith "1979" with 14 multi track celaloid tapes. So they can make this 5.1 SS all around sound. Plus we use the privite rehearsal filmings we have - with Queen rehersing Spread Your Wings, and Paul McCartney is seeing in the back ground on the stage setting up with the Wings roadies - 2.45 minutes. Ian Dury and Blockheads are in the background rehearsing as well - but badly quality and blurred very badly quality but rare filming. Very exceeding footage no person has seeing secret. This is being the next DVD, after Budapest. Budapest is lightening great production too. New interview with Brian and Roger 40 minutes - 40.22, and we find old interview with John Deacon during Budapest soundcheck, he is wearing shorts and bad purple shirt!!! Badly sounded because the background guitars and is too noisey and feedback. But is excessive rare interesting and we use them. We also put in some lost Budapest peaces thats not on the first videos, ever, not once. You will excited them DVDs a lot. Budapest will being the November released. Hammersmith Odeon Xmas market, deceber 16 - and double sets CD with bonus item interview with recorder guy John Etchells seven minutes. |
| Hangman_96 30.11.2012 13:07 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:Great post. I couldn't agree more.GB: Queen Archivist wrote: WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT GARY T AND I THINK QUEEN FANS ARE STUPID? MANY OF OUR BEST FRIENDS IN THIS WORLD ARE QUEEN FANS. ONLY A STUPID PERSON WOULD SUGGEST THIS . ................... Why not make this a conversation, other than a one way comunication? BECAUSE IDIOTS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR INFLEXIBLE MIND UP. YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THAT A CANNEL CALLED RARE SHARE IS ABOUT SHARING AND NOT TAKING. AND YOU WONDER WHY THERE'S NO HEALTHY DIALOGUE ANY MORE!?Show some Respect! You're the main reason on why there is not healthy dialogue anymore. Of course you will allways get the negative response- this is the Internet- but you can't use that as an excuse for your tone on Queenzone, because there are some Queenzoners (me included) that care for this site, and try hard into bringing something to the table. Even when you guys (QP) don't bother to contribute nothing of value. Rare sharing it's about information exchange, and i'm not against it. Read again my first post. The thing is that you keep denying what is obvious. If fans are "nice" to you is because they have an interest in being friends with you- they want to hear the rarities- and you know that it is so. I'm not interested in being your friend- neither in person or on facebook- because i don't care, and that's why i can say what i really think of you- or your "internet personality". Of course that if i atend a fan convention i may be exposed to a diferent Greg, but i only know you from your interactions with fans here on QZ. And i'm not interested in knowing you in person. You couldn't handle my no-bullshit aproach! One thing is your interaction in fan conventions and another thing is your interactions in forums on the internet. You've talked about bringing something to the table. What do you bring to the table? AT least in Queenzone, where you come when you want something? Once you have what you whant you don't even bother in writing again. You just move on, and doesn't contribute a thing. This has been my Queenzone experience. I don't know you on other forums, but you've donne this in the past. Asked for help in Queenzone, and then bye bye! And this is what i'm saying, you don't give a shit about fans, and that's the truth! You only care about fans when they have something of interest to you. You think they're stupid, and that is why you have this condescending tone. The PR for this new project really proves my point. You should go to politics! Something to refresh your memory: link Remember this Topic? Probably one of the best topics EVER in Queenzone related to video information about Queen. Read again how much information you got, and then read your output. Compare it. Get the point? I know what you're thinking. There was a deal you've made with the fans with the approval of Jim Beach, and you opened a different topic. Here it is: link Read again your contribution, and then read the QZer's contribution. Compare it. Once you've got the information, you never cared to post there anymore. And people weren't being nasty towards you. There were some questions concerning that consciously incomplete list that you never cared to answer. And before you gave something back to the fans in trade for the absurd amounts of information you got in return, four months have passed. FOUR MONTHS! And you never gave anything. You negotiated! I would love to see Greg Brooks log in Queenzone once in a while and just share a thought, something new without asking for anything in return. But unfortunately we only hear from you guys when a new press release is ... released! But it's obvious that you and other people from "inside" reads QZ, you just don't care to contribute unless you want something. Of course you will allways get negativity in Queenzone, and i'm against it too! But you have to understand to separate the ones who criticize in a constructive way. My post wasn't negative, just objective, based on past interactions between QZ and you. Because in the past you've desrespected the ones who were very supportive towards you. Of course you were disrespected too, and i'm against it, but that's not an excuse the disrespect everyone else. |
| cmsdrums 30.11.2012 13:09 |
If you can actually copy and post Greg's original message rather than relay it in your own words then I'm more likely to believe some of this. |
| pittrek 30.11.2012 13:15 |
FMRTJDBM wrote: I'm sorry but I am agree with you. He provides incomplete information, besides, he blatantly lied. here is example his letter which he sent to me long time ago. Yes the Queens real official archives are having Hammersmith "1979" with 14 multi track celaloid tapes. So they can make this 5.1 SS all around sound. Plus we use the privite rehearsal filmings we have - with Queen rehersing Spread Your Wings, and Paul McCartney is seeing in the back ground on the stage setting up with the Wings roadies - 2.45 minutes. Ian Dury and Blockheads are in the background rehearsing as well - but badly quality and blurred very badly quality but rare filming. Very exceeding footage no person has seeing secret. This is being the next DVD, after Budapest. Budapest is lightening great production too. New interview with Brian and Roger 40 minutes - 40.22, and we find old interview with John Deacon during Budapest soundcheck, he is wearing shorts and bad purple shirt!!! Badly sounded because the background guitars and is too noisey and feedback. But is excessive rare interesting and we use them. We also put in some lost Budapest peaces thats not on the first videos, ever, not once. You will excited them DVDs a lot. Budapest will being the November released. Hammersmith Odeon Xmas market, deceber 16 - and double sets CD with bonus item interview with recorder guy John Etchells seven minutes.This would be AMAZING. If it was true. Well, maybe in Xmas 2052 :-) |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 13:16 |
cmsdrums wrote: If you can actually copy and post Greg's original message rather than relay it in your own words then I'm more likely to believe some of this. Huh, well where then John Deacon interview? Those about what GB told? |
| Hangman_96 30.11.2012 13:17 |
cmsdrums wrote: If you can actually copy and post Greg's original message rather than relay it in your own words then I'm more likely to believe some of this. The thing is, the original letter from Greg was specifically bad written, with bad grammar, just to mock the guy who posted it above. It's not his own interpretation of the letter - it's the real letter from Greg himself! |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 13:21 |
pittrek wrote:FMRTJDBM wrote: I'm sorry but I am agree with you. He provides incomplete information, besides, he blatantly lied. here is example his letter which he sent to me long time ago. Yes the Queens real official archives are having Hammersmith "1979" with 14 multi track celaloid tapes. So they can make this 5.1 SS all around sound. Plus we use the privite rehearsal filmings we have - with Queen rehersing Spread Your Wings, and Paul McCartney is seeing in the back ground on the stage setting up with the Wings roadies - 2.45 minutes. Ian Dury and Blockheads are in the background rehearsing as well - but badly quality and blurred very badly quality but rare filming. Very exceeding footage no person has seeing secret. This is being the next DVD, after Budapest. Budapest is lightening great production too. New interview with Brian and Roger 40 minutes - 40.22, and we find old interview with John Deacon during Budapest soundcheck, he is wearing shorts and bad purple shirt!!! Badly sounded because the background guitars and is too noisey and feedback. But is excessive rare interesting and we use them. We also put in some lost Budapest peaces thats not on the first videos, ever, not once. You will excited them DVDs a lot. Budapest will being the November released. Hammersmith Odeon Xmas market, deceber 16 - and double sets CD with bonus item interview with recorder guy John Etchells seven minutes.This would be AMAZING. If it was true. Well, maybe in Xmas 2052 :-) Huh, I understand your sarcasm, really |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 13:28 |
I assume GB will be furious ;-) |
| Hangman_96 30.11.2012 13:33 |
Oh no |
| FMRTJDBM 30.11.2012 13:40 |
Oh yeah! He will. He doesn't understand simple fans wishes |
| DLCVinnuendo 30.11.2012 14:37 |
2013 will need to be the GREAT year for us, 40 years of the first album!!! |
| MERQRY 30.11.2012 15:34 |
pittrek wrote:The pre-concert footage looks like 8mm.... i hope they (QP) still have it in the archivesMERQRY wrote:The concert itself was shot undoubtedly on video. The pre-concert footage looks like filmDoga wrote: According to queenlive.ca, an incredible source of Queen knowledge, HP was shoot on 16 mm.Stored on 16 mm doesn't mean recorded on 16 mm... Hyde Park was shoot on video. it doesn't look like film even in the best source (the last official Queen documentary). |
| Ozz 30.11.2012 21:45 |
If Paul Prenter was the reason Queen lost America in the 80's, Greg Brooks is becoming the reason Queen Productions have an awful image with the fans. Sadly i blame Brian ,Rog , John and Jim for not caring about their fans having a confrontational bully in charge of their archive. Time to tweet brian about this. |
| tcc 01.12.2012 00:04 |
Ozz wrote: If Paul Prenter was the reason Queen lost America in the 80's, Greg Brooks is becoming the reason Queen Productions have an awful image with the fans. Sadly i blame Brian ,Rog , John and Jim for not caring about their fans having a confrontational bully in charge of their archive. Time to tweet brian about this. I think you give GB too much credit. QPL is solely responsible for what to release to the fans. |
| ridgewater 01.12.2012 01:37 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Hello happy joyful Queenzone. It's been ages since I was here. So long, that I forgot my password and old email address - so I had to rejoin... Hence the slight name change.His account was banned for trolling a while ago and he's trying to pretend that it's all smooth. Admins pls take a notice. |
| FMRTJDBM 01.12.2012 01:56 |
ridgewater wrote:GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Hello happy joyful Queenzone. It's been ages since I was here. So long, that I forgot my password and old email address - so I had to rejoin... Hence the slight name change.He was account was banned for trolling a while ago and he's trying to pretend that it's all smooth. Admins pls take a notice. That is, you want to say that this person under the name Greg Brooks is an imposter? |
| tomchristie22 01.12.2012 03:32 |
It would've been a fair enough point. Shame about GB's distinct lack of eloquence. |
| brians wig 01.12.2012 03:55 |
MERQRY wrote:Absolutely!Doga wrote: According to queenlive.ca, an incredible source of Queen knowledge, HP was shoot on 16 mm.Stored on 16 mm doesn't mean recorded on 16 mm... Hyde Park was shoot on video. it doesn't look like film even in the best source (the last official Queen documentary). I'm also convinced that the Rainbow November 74 concerts were also filmed on videotape, yet all we hear from QPL now is 'film'.... |
| brians wig 01.12.2012 03:59 |
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| brians wig 01.12.2012 04:04 |
FMRTJDBM wrote: Oh yeah! He will. He doesn't understand simple fans wishesHe DOES understand our wishes: he is after all a fan like we are. The sticking point is Brian, Roger and (more so I gather) Jim Beach. It doesn't matter what Greg, Gary, Justin et al suggest to QPL with regards ideas and track listings, if the 'Three who Rule' say no, then it's a "no". Sure, it pisses us all off, but can you imagine how pissed off Greg et al must be at having heard this stuff, want a copy for themselves, and the band say "no, we won't release it"? |
| mooghead 01.12.2012 04:57 |
People think that GB has free reign to the whole Queen archive and is in a position to release what he wants but just isnt coz he is a bastard. Simply not true. He is in an impossible situation. If he posts on this site about what is available but not being released people hate him. If he gets fed up with being here and stops posting people hate him. No matter what spin you put on it its pure jealousy. Greg, disappear and don't come back.... for your own sanity. |
| FMRTJDBM 01.12.2012 05:20 |
mooghead wrote: People think that GB has free reign to the whole Queen archive and is in a position to release what he wants but just isnt coz he is a bastard. Simply not true. He is in an impossible situation. If he posts on this site about what is available but not being released people hate him. If he gets fed up with being here and stops posting people hate him. No matter what spin you put on it its pure jealousy. Greg, disappear and don't come back.... for your own sanity.He's back and he'll answer on your lie |
| dowens 01.12.2012 06:10 |
Wow, pretty blasting post from Greg Brooks. Surprised that he would get this upset from a few "burnt" fans. I imagine these fans are the ones who have been told to expect many releases, but those releases never see the light of day. I am indifferent on the new YouTube project. I'll check it out, because I simply love all stuff Queen. Let's release more stuff for the fans Greg. Convince QPL and Brian, Roger, Jim, etc to release material! Freddie has been gone 21 years, I'd like to see releases with Brian and Roger's commentary because they are still around. Queen fans are pretty loyal, let's get some box sets going. Pretty sure if you do that, people will start loving you. |
| dowens 01.12.2012 06:14 |
I'll also add, make the box sets affordable. As an American fan, I am tired of walking into stores and seeing great box sets from The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, but nothing from Queen! Of course, there was that overpriced "Cosmos Rocks" LP box set with albums on vinyl... I'll eventually get that awesome box set of Wembley, but it's pretty expensive. But, profit must be made... |
| soxtalon 01.12.2012 07:02 |
FMRTJDBM wrote: I'm sorry but I am agree with you. He provides incomplete information, besides, he blatantly lied. here is example his letter which he sent to me long time ago.1. Good work on sharing private communication. I'm sure he'll be happy to talk with fans more privately knowing they will share it all later on. 2. When was this letter from? Are you such an idiot that you don't understand that plans change. Greg is in an impossible place. He has access to the material we'd all LOVE to see/hear. He also can't discuss much and probably isn't quite sure what he should or shouldn't be saying. Then when he does let little nuggets of information out, he's killed because it's not what you want OR perhaps in this case it was in the plans at the time of writing or even what he was proposing. Then John declined use of the interview because he doesn't like the way he looks in a bad purple shirt or the band decided in one of their meetings at Rog's pad...No we don't want to go Hammersmith...let's start towards the beginning...let's go Rainbow first! And Hammersmith is put in the background. Absolutely not Greg's fault yet he will take the blame for "promising" something. Greg can only say what he's working on or what he's been told to work on (and we're lucky we know that half the time), but he's not the one who decides if/when to release such work. And let's look at what he says. he says what they have. At the time this was the next DVD planned after Budapest was to be released...and so details changed. The point being, is you can't hold someone to a personal communique where he privately releases some framework of plan and then call him a blatant liar when things don't work out completely that way. |
| FMRTJDBM 01.12.2012 07:06 |
Hah. Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls this is another Greg's bodyguard!:-) |
| mooghead 01.12.2012 09:32 |
FMRTJDBM wrote:It was an opinionmooghead wrote: People think that GB has free reign to the whole Queen archive and is in a position to release what he wants but just isnt coz he is a bastard. Simply not true. He is in an impossible situation. If he posts on this site about what is available but not being released people hate him. If he gets fed up with being here and stops posting people hate him. No matter what spin you put on it its pure jealousy. Greg, disappear and don't come back.... for your own sanity.He's back and he'll answer on your lie |
| The Real Wizard 01.12.2012 10:18 |
brians wig wrote: I'm also convinced that the Rainbow November 74 concerts were also filmed on videotapeVoici, un TV camera: link |
| CM 01.12.2012 10:56 |
Greg, first of all thanks for your work. I'm sure that new youtube channel will be something interesting, but I hope you understand any soundboard quality demo leak will make fans feel much better than all the hard work you got there to show some nice items. We really thank you but it's just music what we made us all love Queen. All the other Queen related things are welcome but can not be as good as music. It's like being hungry, but you can only get cook books. Yes, they can be very interesting but they are not food. Thanks for reading this. Cesar |
| earwig 01.12.2012 11:06 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Agreed! Rainbow Nov 74 is definitely shot on Video. No doubt about it. (As is Hyde Park 76, Earls Court 77 etc etc). I find it amazing that some people can't tell the difference in picture quality. Well, it's not a matter of 'quality' - it's just a different medium.brians wig wrote: I'm also convinced that the Rainbow November 74 concerts were also filmed on videotapeVoici, un TV camera: link The only thing I can suggest is that people are using the word 'film' to mean any visually recorded medium. In which case, we're getting into semantics!! |
| MERQRY 01.12.2012 14:44 |
brians wig wrote:Acording Gary Taylor, Rainbow was shoot on 2" video tape.MERQRY wrote:Absolutely! I'm also convinced that the Rainbow November 74 concerts were also filmed on videotape, yet all we hear from QPL now is 'film'....Doga wrote: According to queenlive.ca, an incredible source of Queen knowledge, HP was shoot on 16 mm.Stored on 16 mm doesn't mean recorded on 16 mm... Hyde Park was shoot on video. it doesn't look like film even in the best source (the last official Queen documentary). I have a theory: they stored the gig on 35 mm for the cinema release and that's why QP though it was filmed on 35 mm. As earwig says, maybe there's a semantic "problem" with the participe "filmed" used as equivalent of "recorded"... that's why i always use the word "shoot" for video, and eventually "recorded" for film (and if i can i specify "how many" mm) |
| GinjaNinja 01.12.2012 15:31 |
They may also be confusing things between the November gigs and the March gig (which was shot on film). |
| Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 02.12.2012 04:25 |
Why was it stores on 35 mm ? Could it be because of the use in cinema's ? Do those projectors use 35mm films ? |
| The Nosuch Disco 02.12.2012 06:37 |
I just googled Queen at the Rainbow, found some details here... link |
| splicksplack 02.12.2012 07:03 |
It's just fuckin laughable. A YouTube channel to show static objects? Are they fuckin retards? Why not a website? And the Rainbow thing? You know, don't bother. I couldn't give a shit anymore. |
| Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 02.12.2012 08:04 |
Here you got a picture of the original films used for the RAINBOW show.... |
| freddissimo 02.12.2012 09:59 |
Greg fuck you and QP! People want new releases, new live concerts, new demos, new rarities! In the last 20 years I only saw the same things: Wembley and shit collections. Hungarian Rhapsody would be a great release but as usual was mediocre. I hate you, Jim Beach and all QP! |
| dysan 02.12.2012 10:18 |
So this is real? I had my doubts. |
| john bodega 02.12.2012 12:09 |
"I find it amazing that some people can't tell the difference in picture quality" The Rainbow gig throws some people (actually, it confused me the first time I saw any of it). I think the reason is that as it was stored on film (maybe for longevity?) the colour profile changed a bit, if you will. It also wouldn't have as many of the ugly age-related artefacts that you get on video of a similar age. I'm extrapolating, here. I've been told it was shot on video and stored on film - if I've mucked any of that up, feel free to correct me. All in all I think it's a great idea though. |
| mooghead 02.12.2012 15:43 |
Its the whole film/video thing again. Was it recorded on a moving picture camera or not?! :/ |
| Ron 03.12.2012 02:49 |
I do not really care if it was on video or film. Whenever I buy an old concert on dvd/BR, I am not anticipating the same quality as a recorded concert of 5 years ago. Film or video, so what if it has 10 pixels less. Fact is that QPL have it in their archive on a media that can be watched which is good. |
| Togg 03.12.2012 06:16 |
As far as I am concerned a rare tracks/clips channel is a nice idea, I don't spend hours trawling the internet for rare stuff, in fact I suspect even having been queen fan since the 70's I am still to hear dozens of rare tracks that the fans have had on their shelves for years. Sound good to me, crack on with it |
| splicksplack 03.12.2012 06:52 |
Togg wrote: As far as I am concerned a rare tracks/clips channel is a nice idea, I don't spend hours trawling the internet for rare stuff, in fact I suspect even having been queen fan since the 70's I am still to hear dozens of rare tracks that the fans have had on their shelves for years. Sound good to me, crack on with itSorry, is that a joke? It's not rare clips/tracks. It's clips of inanimate "stuff". A fan club scarf, A Day At The races belt, a badge from Earl's Court, a bloody Miracle paperweight! A Polish pic disc etc, All things that would be more sensible on a web-site. Utterly mental. |
| KevoM 03.12.2012 06:59 |
There is some Hyde Park stuff shot on 16mm (or perhaps even 8mm?). It's silent and pre-concert footage of celebs turning up for the show and some aerial shots. |
| earwig 03.12.2012 13:47 |
"The Rainbow gig throws some people (actually, it confused me the first time I saw any of it). I think the reason is that as it was stored on film (maybe for longevity?) the colour profile changed a bit, if you will. It also wouldn't have as many of the ugly age-related artefacts that you get on video of a similar age." NOOO!!!!!!! (sorry to shout - I'm not being angry I promise!!) If video footage was 'stored' on film and the 'colour profile changed a bit' then the VHS from Box Of Tricks would look like... FILM!! But it clearly looks like what it is i.e. 2" PAL QUAD Videotape. It is 'interlaced' - 2 fields per frame. The so-called 'live' or 'fluid' look. Watch any episode of Fawlty Towers. All the location footage is shot on film, all the studio footage is shot on videotape. With a very clear difference ;-) Now you CAN convert film media back into the video (interlaced) look by using VIDfire. A lot of the old Doctor Who's have used these in remastering for their DVD releases. One last thing: although I am a techy geek, the main thing I want... is to watch Queen at the Rainbow 1974!! |
| Marknow 03.12.2012 14:32 |
Once they don't fuck with the aspect ratio I'm happy. 4:3 tyvm. |
| Indo77 03.12.2012 17:02 |
As earwig states Rainbow 74 was clearly shot on videotape. Practically all the live material professionally shot in the 70s was shot on 2 inch quad tape. |
| cmsdrums 03.12.2012 17:14 |
Wouldn't it be nice if Greg came by again to answer the questions as to what media it was recorded (and was/is stored on), or even to give some more details about the project? |
| earwig 03.12.2012 18:29 |
Indo77 - thanks for the back up :-) cmsdrums - you don't believe me do you? :-( *sobs quietly to himself* |
| john bodega 04.12.2012 00:48 |
"Watch any episode of Fawlty Towers. All the location footage is shot on film, all the studio footage is shot on videotape. With a very clear difference" It was actually the subject of a skit once! Hilarious stuff. |
| emrabt 04.12.2012 01:32 |
It was actually the subject of a skit once! Hilarious stuff. ======== We are surrounded by film! |
| earwig 04.12.2012 05:02 |
"It was actually the subject of a skit once! Hilarious stuff." link you mean this?! great stuff :-) |
| Hangman_96 04.12.2012 05:27 |
A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG... |
| FMRTJDBM 04.12.2012 06:05 |
Lostman wrote: A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG... I doubt that it was Greg. |
| john bodega 04.12.2012 06:39 |
"NOOO!!!!!!! (sorry to shout - I'm not being angry I promise!!)" I should add though that I was really just extrapolating on what others have said, as I haven't seen any Rainbow stuff lately and can't recall what it looks like to a medical certainty. It's just another gig (among many) that is deserving of DVD treatment. Clearly we're in one of those situations where someone needs to get the surviving members of the band incredibly drunk and take their power of attorney. |
| pittrek 04.12.2012 07:45 |
Lostman wrote: A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG...Come on people, I don't understand some comments. Is there some law which says Greg MUST reply to any question ? Don't you understand that he even CAN'T answer some of the questions because he likes his job ? |
| FMRTJDBM 04.12.2012 07:50 |
pittrek wrote:Lostman wrote: A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG...Come on people, I don't understand some comments. Is there some law which says Greg MUST reply to any question ? Don't you understand that he even CAN'T answer some of the questions because he likes his job ? If he so like his job why he sits on his ass and nothing to do? |
| pittrek 04.12.2012 08:06 |
FMRTJDBM wrote:You think his job is to answer to Queenzone posts ? I thought he's the archivist :-)pittrek wrote:If he so like his job why he sits on his ass and nothing to do?Lostman wrote: A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG...Come on people, I don't understand some comments. Is there some law which says Greg MUST reply to any question ? Don't you understand that he even CAN'T answer some of the questions because he likes his job ? |
| FMRTJDBM 04.12.2012 08:07 |
pittrek wrote:FMRTJDBM wrote:You think his job is to answer to Queenzone posts ? I thought he's the archivist :-)pittrek wrote:If he so like his job why he sits on his ass and nothing to do?Lostman wrote: A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG...Come on people, I don't understand some comments. Is there some law which says Greg MUST reply to any question ? Don't you understand that he even CAN'T answer some of the questions because he likes his job ? well his troubles. Nobody asked his write posts |
| cmsdrums 04.12.2012 12:46 |
pittrek wrote:Well it is his thread after all, but yet again he 'lights the touch paper and retires to a safe distance'!!FMRTJDBM wrote:You think his job is to answer to Queenzone posts ? I thought he's the archivist :-)pittrek wrote:If he so like his job why he sits on his ass and nothing to do?Lostman wrote: A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG...Come on people, I don't understand some comments. Is there some law which says Greg MUST reply to any question ? Don't you understand that he even CAN'T answer some of the questions because he likes his job ? And to be honest, his much longer will he hold onto this job? The far more sociable, professional, enthusiastic, competent and likeable Rhys Thomas has already; 1) started leafing through the video vault and not only found, but talked QPL into using and releasing, a lot of unseen stuff in a short time 2) been employed to write the sleeve notes on all the new video and audio releases which used to Greg's 'bit' 3) been on public forums to guage reaction amongst fans and had a virtually unanimously positive response to his helpful, informative and clear info I'm sure it's only because Rhys is a talented writer, film maker, actor etc... thst he (sadly) won't have the time to fully usurp Greg if asked. |
| Hangman_96 04.12.2012 17:46 |
pittrek wrote:Well, I think he should leave, at least, a few answers to some posts. Then why create this topic and quit answering the arising questions, which will certainly keep arising again and again and again? Otherwise, this topic was created for the sole purpose of wasting people's bandwidth and time.Lostman wrote: A PLETHORA OF POSTS HAS BEEN LEFT IN THE TOPIC, AND STILL THERE IS NO REPLY FROM GREG...Come on people, I don't understand some comments. Is there some law which says Greg MUST reply to any question ? Don't you understand that he even CAN'T answer some of the questions because he likes his job ? |
| earwig 05.12.2012 09:57 |
"Otherwise, this topic was created for the sole purpose of wasting people's bandwidth and time." With negativity like that...!! :-( |
| Hangman_96 05.12.2012 10:56 |
earwig wrote: "Otherwise, this topic was created for the sole purpose of wasting people's bandwidth and time." With negativity like that...!! :-(I'M NOT COMPLAINING, I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. AND THERE'S NO NEGATIVITY HERE. YOU MUST'VE CONFUSED SOMETHING. |
| MERQRY 05.12.2012 15:46 |
Lostman wrote:Being serious... WHERE is the rule that says the "creator" of the topic HAS to reply ALL the questions?earwig wrote: "Otherwise, this topic was created for the sole purpose of wasting people's bandwidth and time." With negativity like that...!! :-(I'M NOT COMPLAINING, I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. AND THERE'S NO NEGATIVITY HERE. YOU MUST'VE CONFUSED SOMETHING. Otherwise i don't think he has time to reply all the questions that were made here... tons of questions, many of them very indiscreet for him... |
| FMRTJDBM 05.12.2012 23:00 |
MERQRY wrote:Lostman wrote:Being serious... WHERE is the rule that says the "creator" of the topic HAS to reply ALL the questions? Otherwise i don't think he has time to reply all the questions that were made here... tons of questions, many of them very indiscreet for him...earwig wrote: "Otherwise, this topic was created for the sole purpose of wasting people's bandwidth and time." With negativity like that...!! :-(I'M NOT COMPLAINING, I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. AND THERE'S NO NEGATIVITY HERE. YOU MUST'VE CONFUSED SOMETHING. huh, he had time for writing two big posts with big grammar mistakes ;-) and after this he's gone! |
| FMRTJDBM 05.12.2012 23:39 |
FMRTJDBM wrote:I am more than confident that he should get to mail notices of the fact that someone did write in his topic.MERQRY wrote:huh, he had time for writing two big posts with big grammar mistakes ;-) and after this he's gone!Lostman wrote:Being serious... WHERE is the rule that says the "creator" of the topic HAS to reply ALL the questions? Otherwise i don't think he has time to reply all the questions that were made here... tons of questions, many of them very indiscreet for him...earwig wrote: "Otherwise, this topic was created for the sole purpose of wasting people's bandwidth and time." With negativity like that...!! :-(I'M NOT COMPLAINING, I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. AND THERE'S NO NEGATIVITY HERE. YOU MUST'VE CONFUSED SOMETHING. Does anyone tried to contact him by mail? Each of us probably knows his mail and he can write. |
| Hangman_96 06.12.2012 08:28 |
Seriously, WHAT was the reason for starting out this whole thread at all then? |
| brENsKi 06.12.2012 11:44 |
getting the fans to do the hard work for them again, would be my guess |
| Hangman_96 06.12.2012 12:36 |
Huh |
| Hangman_96 06.12.2012 12:39 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Hello happy joyful Queenzone. It's been ages since I was here. So long, that I forgot my password and old email address - so I had to rejoin... Hence the slight name change. Anyway... Once again several people here are finding negatives and sinister hidden agendas (where there are none) in a simple and genuinely intended YouTube channel venture Gary T and I are setting up. These people could find something underhand and generally bad in a new born baby!! I'm always baffled at the tendency here to sway towards perceiving everything as having dark and secret motives. Gary and Greg surely must have some hidden secret agenda, right? We couldnt be doing it just because we are big fans and we love Queen memorabilia - having both been collectors since the 1970s. Apparently, according to some bright spark here, it's us being lazy and getting you guys to send us all your information for free. Or else it's QPL planning a cunning way of getting the fans to show us what they've got. Like we don't all know already what exists out there from a million fan site web pages. Well... No! It's none of the above. There's no clever ploy afoot, nothing sinister to debate until the cows come home or die of boredom reading this tired old predictable drivel. No, it's none of that rubbish. It is very simply two fans offering a forum for likeminded Queen fans to show and share their most interesting and significant treasures with fellow fans. Is that so hard to fathom. If you don't want to look or contribute, that's fine. It's not compulsory. It's just something different to do, if you fancy it. If you don't, then no one has lost or gained anything. This QZ forum has THE most suspicious and negative and mean-spirited fans of any other site. Can't the negative doom-mongers among you, just once, just for one little moment, look at this in a positive light. Regard it as something fun and interesting and constructive. Bring something good and intriguing to the table, instead of trying to knock it and cast unnecessary doubt and shadows. Certain people's tedious assertions here couldn't be wider of the mark if they tried... As usual, let's be honest. Gary and I knew that QZ would be the place that would have people thinking the worst right from the off. And so it is. Rare Share is a good thing for Queen fans. It's not about QPL or Gary or Greg being lazy. On the contrary... We got off our arses and did something for Queen fans. We offered something, conceived and created something new, brought something to the table... Which no one else here thought to do. 'Some' of you were the ones who did the easy thing.... The lazy thing.... You just reverted back to complain and moan mode again, and being suspicious. THAT is lazy. What we're doing, good or bad or total disaster, is at least us having a decent genuine Go! Give it a chance, and for goodness sake cheer up and come away from the dark sinister path you love so much here. Some of you (not all) need to get out more.... to more happy and vibrant 'fan' sites I mean! This one has made too many of you decidedly jaded and cynical. Isn't it time for just the tiniest change in attitude here?? GB (yes, the real one, before someone challenges that one- yet again)GREG, PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH ANY ANSWERS. |
| brENsKi 06.12.2012 13:08 |
you're pissing into the wind mate. think about it: Greg only ever shows up here to do one of two things: 1. criticize the whole community for various crimes ranging from hope, expectancy, or negativite realism 2. drop a "teaser bomb" of some kind - which basically lures the community in to help him doing his fucking archive job remember the "show me yours and i'll show you mine" exchange? it was all about what actual live recordings queen had in the archive but QZ had to TELL him first what we had. turned out (surprise surprise, falls off chair) that Greg gave us fuck-all in the way of information - barely confirming the Queen Archive existence of extremely commonplace recordings that'd been "in the wild" for years. FACT: QPL/Greg etc will deny the existence of almost everything (Hangman) and then act "genuinely surprised when stuff surfaces in public domain. and they will NEVER confirm the existence of anything worthwhile - because they'd rather play mind-fuck games and treat fans like the shit-swallowers we've become accustomed to being treated like. because we haven't told him to sling his hook years ago, we deserve no better |
| oliverd05 06.12.2012 13:45 |
really though judging by everyones response on here, were telling him to Sling his hook now! |
| Hangman_96 06.12.2012 15:41 |
brENsKi wrote: you're pissing into the wind mate. think about it: Greg only ever shows up here to do one of two things: 1. criticize the whole community for various crimes ranging from hope, expectancy, or negativite realism 2. drop a "teaser bomb" of some kind - which basically lures the community in to help him doing his fucking archive job remember the "show me yours and i'll show you mine" exchange? it was all about what actual live recordings queen had in the archive but QZ had to TELL him first what we had. turned out (surprise surprise, falls off chair) that Greg gave us fuck-all in the way of information - barely confirming the Queen Archive existence of extremely commonplace recordings that'd been "in the wild" for years. FACT: QPL/Greg etc will deny the existence of almost everything (Hangman) and then act "genuinely surprised when stuff surfaces in public domain. and they will NEVER confirm the existence of anything worthwhile - because they'd rather play mind-fuck games and treat fans like the shit-swallowers we've become accustomed to being treated like. because we haven't told him to sling his hook years ago, we deserve no betterI know, I'm just taking the piss :-) |
| brENsKi 06.12.2012 16:23 |
oliverd05 wrote: really though judging by everyones response on here, were telling him to Sling his hook now!and it's years overdue |
| FMRTJDBM 07.12.2012 09:14 |
I think this topic also will be dead as his ferst topic. |
| Hangman_96 07.12.2012 09:47 |
Some have said there's no law that Greg must reply to any questions, but I'm just asking one more time again: Why create this topic when you know that lots of questions are going to materialise as the discussion progresses? If he hadn't wanted to answer any questions neither see them arise, he wouldn't have started out this whole damn discussion. And with negativity like that, saying that this forum's fans are a bunch of moaning shite. |
| FMRTJDBM 07.12.2012 09:50 |
Greg simply snotty woman in a man's body |
| Hangman_96 08.12.2012 08:19 |
Rainbow 1974 two complete nights, Earls Court 1977 second complete night, and Paris 1979 three complete nights. |
| Bad Seed 08.12.2012 12:57 |
Lostman wrote: Rainbow 1974 two complete nights, Earls Court 1977 second complete night, and Paris 1979 three complete nights.What about them? |
| Bad Seed 08.12.2012 12:58 |
Lostman wrote: Rainbow 1974 two complete nights, Earls Court 1977 second complete night, and Paris 1979 three complete nights.What about them? |
| Hangman_96 08.12.2012 18:43 |
Bad Seed wrote:I would like to see them. That was all I wanted to say.Lostman wrote: Rainbow 1974 two complete nights, Earls Court 1977 second complete night, and Paris 1979 three complete nights.What about them? |
| FMRTJDBM 09.12.2012 01:52 |
it seems to me that Greg Brooks was drunk when he wrote the text and created a themes |
| pma 09.12.2012 02:36 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "today I can't to buy any official concert video (or new full audio) with Freddie without moustache ... WHY????" I think it's just a case of Brian underestimating what people are willing to pay for. He's mentioned the bad image quality of the 70's gigs before as being a factor - who cares? The fact that Georges Méliès' film "Le Voyage dans la lune" isn't in colour 1080p doesn't stop it from being a worthy buy. Gigs in the 70's were shot on shitty videotape. We don't care, Brian. Get that stuff out the door. .Ex'fucking'actly. A lesson in business for QP: YOU HAVE VIDEO? YES I HAVE MONEY, YES YOU GIVE VIDEO, YES I GIVE MONEY, YES YOU NOT GIVE VIDEO, NO? I NOT GIVE MONEY. YOU GIVE OLD BORING SHIT. I NOT GIVE MONEY. GOODBYE. Understood? |
| FMRTJDBM 09.12.2012 03:16 |
pma wrote:You excuse me, but I began to doubt that GB: Queen Archivist is real Greg Brooks/Zebonka12 wrote: "today I can't to buy any official concert video (or new full audio) with Freddie without moustache ... WHY????" I think it's just a case of Brian underestimating what people are willing to pay for. He's mentioned the bad image quality of the 70's gigs before as being a factor - who cares? The fact that Georges Méliès' film "Le Voyage dans la lune" isn't in colour 1080p doesn't stop it from being a worthy buy. Gigs in the 70's were shot on shitty videotape. We don't care, Brian. Get that stuff out the door. .Ex'fucking'actly. A lesson in business for QP: YOU HAVE VIDEO? YES I HAVE MONEY, YES YOU GIVE VIDEO, YES I GIVE MONEY, YES YOU NOT GIVE VIDEO, NO? I NOT GIVE MONEY. YOU GIVE OLD BORING SHIT. I NOT GIVE MONEY. GOODBYE. Understood? |
| FMRTJDBM 09.12.2012 07:19 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Hello happy joyful Queenzone. It's been ages since I was here. So long, that I forgot my password and old email address - so I had to rejoin... Hence the slight name change. Anyway... Once again several people here are finding negatives and sinister hidden agendas (where there are none) in a simple and genuinely intended YouTube channel venture Gary T and I are setting up. These people could find something underhand and generally bad in a new born baby!! I'm always baffled at the tendency here to sway towards perceiving everything as having dark and secret motives. Gary and Greg surely must have some hidden secret agenda, right? We couldnt be doing it just because we are big fans and we love Queen memorabilia - having both been collectors since the 1970s. Apparently, according to some bright spark here, it's us being lazy and getting you guys to send us all your information for free. Or else it's QPL planning a cunning way of getting the fans to show us what they've got. Like we don't all know already what exists out there from a million fan site web pages. Well... No! It's none of the above. There's no clever ploy afoot, nothing sinister to debate until the cows come home or die of boredom reading this tired old predictable drivel. No, it's none of that rubbish. It is very simply two fans offering a forum for likeminded Queen fans to show and share their most interesting and significant treasures with fellow fans. Is that so hard to fathom. If you don't want to look or contribute, that's fine. It's not compulsory. It's just something different to do, if you fancy it. If you don't, then no one has lost or gained anything. This QZ forum has THE most suspicious and negative and mean-spirited fans of any other site. Can't the negative doom-mongers among you, just once, just for one little moment, look at this in a positive light. Regard it as something fun and interesting and constructive. Bring something good and intriguing to the table, instead of trying to knock it and cast unnecessary doubt and shadows. Certain people's tedious assertions here couldn't be wider of the mark if they tried... As usual, let's be honest. Gary and I knew that QZ would be the place that would have people thinking the worst right from the off. And so it is. Rare Share is a good thing for Queen fans. It's not about QPL or Gary or Greg being lazy. On the contrary... We got off our arses and did something for Queen fans. We offered something, conceived and created something new, brought something to the table... Which no one else here thought to do. 'Some' of you were the ones who did the easy thing.... The lazy thing.... You just reverted back to complain and moan mode again, and being suspicious. THAT is lazy. What we're doing, good or bad or total disaster, is at least us having a decent genuine Go! Give it a chance, and for goodness sake cheer up and come away from the dark sinister path you love so much here. Some of you (not all) need to get out more.... to more happy and vibrant 'fan' sites I mean! This one has made too many of you decidedly jaded and cynical. Isn't it time for just the tiniest change in attitude here?? GB (yes, the real one, before someone challenges that one- yet again) Hi, Greg. You have no right to ignore my posts. You have no right to ignore the messages of others people. Especially in those cases when you give a mean information, and never telling all. Apparently you think that writing a great post and giving hints you kill two birds with one stone. Nothing like that, Greg. We do not like dry food that we throw if only we shut up. We love and want the food we tried to explain and put into his mouth. and bigger and fatter. Do you understand what I'm getting at? Do you charge us in ignorance and rudeness and insatiable desire. What did you expect? We want it all, we want it now |
| Holly2003 09.12.2012 08:11 |
Oh shut up would you. You're a bigger whiner than GB. |
| cmsdrums 09.12.2012 08:18 |
Does Greg have every right to ignore our questions? YES Should he ignore our mostly sensible and above board questions, which are specifically in response to 'bait' laid by him after he starts a thread? NO Is Greg's contribution here (of which his threads of the last few days are a perfect example) totally embarrassing to him when compared to Rhys Thomas' recent in depth and informative online Q&A with fans? MOST DEFINITELY |
| jones904 09.12.2012 22:17 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote: |
| FMRTJDBM 10.12.2012 02:10 |
GB We demand answers to our questions. |
| Rick 10.12.2012 07:20 |
Seems nothing has changed on QZ ;-) Greg gets us fans excited about some secret Rainbow project, but leaves the key questions unanswered. |
| brENsKi 10.12.2012 10:11 |
yes...a bit c*ntish to say the least |
| GB: Queen Archivist 12.12.2012 17:04 |
Rick wrote: Seems nothing has changed on QZ ;-) Greg gets us fans excited about some secret Rainbow project, but leaves the key questions unanswered.What a teasing beast he is!!!! He should be telling us every tiny detail about the proposed set, so that when it emerges there is no surprise element at all. We will all have known exactly what we're getting MONTHS in advance. Greg should also tell all the children around the world exactly what Santa has brought them for Xmas. Who cares about expectation and excitement and surprise any more????? |
| earwig 12.12.2012 18:06 |
Greg Please don't think (and I'm sure you don't) that all of us fans are like the small minority!!! Most of us are grateful and SANE!!! If Queen Productions never release another new product then... that's their right!!! (and there's always bootlegs for us lot to fall back on *wink-wink*!!) |
| FMRTJDBM 12.12.2012 23:16 |
I think now everybody would like to know on what stage the work on concert at the rainbow theater |
| YAFF 12.12.2012 23:28 |
FMRTJDBM wrote: Greg, we need more details about AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECTYou can't honestly believe he is free to spill the beans on this. He dropped us a big hint. He threw us a bone so that's better than nothing. I wasn't around when certain other projects were hinted and didn't materialize so I don't feel your angst. Nevertheless, the timing for a Rainbow package is now perfect. One last 80s show has been released (and I love it- better than Wembley to me) and Mr. Brooks is well aware of disappointments in the past...I highly doubt he would drop this juicy tidbit for us unless all systems were on "go". I shall make a prediction. Over the next five years there will be things released that even the most bitter critic will have to say, "wow". I think the absolute surprise of the orchestrated Barcelona project is proof there isn't laziness. |
| cmsdrums 13.12.2012 06:15 |
YAFF wrote:"I think the absolute surprise of the ABSOLUTELY UNNECCESSARY orchestrated Barcelona project is proof there isn't laziness"FMRTJDBM wrote: Greg, we need more details about AMAZING NEW RAINBOW PROJECTI think the absolute surprise of the orchestrated Barcelona project is proof there isn't laziness. There, corrected that for you!! :-) |
| splicksplack 13.12.2012 07:08 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote:I wouldn't puff myself up too much if I were you (or QPL). It's not as if it's a never seen before gig. Just better quality.Rick wrote: Seems nothing has changed on QZ ;-) Greg gets us fans excited about some secret Rainbow project, but leaves the key questions unanswered.What a teasing beast he is!!!! He should be telling us every tiny detail about the proposed set, so that when it emerges there is no surprise element at all. We will all have known exactly what we're getting MONTHS in advance. Greg should also tell all the children around the world exactly what Santa has brought them for Xmas. Who cares about expectation and excitement and surprise any more????? "expectation and excitement and surprise" went into the bin years ago. It's just re-cycled stuff now. Brian and Roger are artistically redundant (as you would be Mr. Brooks in a saner world). |
| brENsKi 13.12.2012 10:16 |
you're right about artistic redundancy on Bri/Rog's part however, what exact artistic capability are you referring to when you imply that GB has also lost his? |
| Hangman_96 13.12.2012 14:33 |
YAFF wrote: Over the next five years there will be things released that even the most bitter critic will have to say, "wow".Do you know that for sure? If yes then can you please tell us what will be released over the next five years and why it will be so special? |
| Hangman_96 13.12.2012 14:34 |
GB: Queen Archivist wrote:GREG,Rick wrote: Seems nothing has changed on QZ ;-) Greg gets us fans excited about some secret Rainbow project, but leaves the key questions unanswered.What a teasing beast he is!!!! He should be telling us every tiny detail about the proposed set, so that when it emerges there is no surprise element at all. We will all have known exactly what we're getting MONTHS in advance. Greg should also tell all the children around the world exactly what Santa has brought them for Xmas. Who cares about expectation and excitement and surprise any more????? My last question has been left unanswered. Mind giving an answer, please? Take a look at your PMs. |
| GinjaNinja 13.12.2012 15:23 |
I really hope that if a Rainbow release does materialise, that they include at the very least some of the footage/audio from the March '74 show. There is so little available from the Queen II tour it would be nice if we had some of the un-bootlegged tracks see the light of day (that is assuming they still have the tapes). :) |
| MERQRY 13.12.2012 15:36 |
GinjaNinja wrote: I really hope that if a Rainbow release does materialise, that they include at the very least some of the footage/audio from the March '74 show. There is so little available from the Queen II tour it would be nice if we had some of the un-bootlegged tracks see the light of day (that is assuming they still have the tapes). :)Yeah! i agree with you... they must have at least footage of Son and Daughter and Modern times rock and roll! |
| brENsKi 13.12.2012 16:20 |
the problem with anything "unseen" that they might have is a very very very basic one QPL/brian/Roger have a bit of a dilemma put it out and we've no more anticpation/expectancy, don't put it out and some mugs will buy the other shit in the meantime stringing us along would appear to be the more profitable route |
| YAFF 14.12.2012 10:14 |
Lostman wrote:well, no, but all the hints are there and with the movie in the works it just feels like the right time. What other event could occur that would be "striking while the iron is hot" than the movie?YAFF wrote: Over the next five years there will be things released that even the most bitter critic will have to say, "wow".Do you know that for sure? If yes then can you please tell us what will be released over the next five years and why it will be so special? |
| rocknrolllover 07.01.2013 04:17 |
How is it that we should be happy and excited about this? |
