QueenZone discussion #1330182

tomchristie22 wrote: Montreal looks awful

philip storey wrote: I should have know better than to buy Hungarian Rhapsody on DVD the picture quality is not much better than the VHS release.Nearley all the same songs as Wembley.See What A Fool I've Been !

Ozz wrote:

tomchristie22 wrote: Montreal looks awful

o_o What does look good according to you? Wembley 86? Ewwwww

Bad Seed wrote: I think the colours on Hungarian Rhapsody are great!

popy wrote:

Bad Seed wrote: I think the colours on Hungarian Rhapsody are great!

X2. On VHS the colours are washed out, to yellow. Hungarian Rhapsody has more true-to-life skin colours. I think that even there's a filter on VHS release that erases (in some songs) pink colours. Look at Bohemian Rhapsody on Wembley. Freddie is on the piano and has pink and blue lights on him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNeNRG3FpCg Now let's look at Budapest Blu-Ray/DVD. Although the lightning rig is smaller than Wembley, the lights are a small version than the bigger stage version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r27rWqh6kN0 Now Budapest VHS. Where's pink lights on Freddie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1OxNccvEkk A Kind Of Magic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-CORnWpHWg Hungarian Rhapsody version. Skip to bass solo (3m30s)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLxN0wpFoP8   (Skip again to bass solo) VHS version with very little ammount of pink, and a very washed out blue. So, Budapest VHS has the right colours, and Wembley and Budapest Blu-Ray/DVD the wrong ones? I really don't think so. I think that colours on Hungarian Rhapsody are great. I think the VHS colours are WAY wrong. I can't really tell if it's to yellow-ish, to washed out or to brighter, all all of them, but are way wrong. The videos i posted prove it. I definitely prefer Hungarian Rhapsody colours.

Vocal harmony wrote: It's pointless comparing colours between Wembley and Budapest. Wembley was shot mostly in day light or fading day light. Budapest was shot later at night in the dark. The stage at wembley was much bigger than the European shows. Using the same lighting rig but having it spread out more with longer throws to the lighted subject the colours at wembley should be less vivid and reds, blues and greens particularly will tend to look more washed out. Making the comparisons that are being made, both shows would have to be shot under the same conditions with the same sized area being lit which they're not.

cmsdrums wrote: On the subject of picture quality, why have they used stills pictures in the booklet of such poor quality? - they are nearly all blurry and washed out and not very inspired selections. On a REALLY pendantic point, another error in the booklet: it says Queen "ARE" Freddie, John, Roger and Brian. This should either be Queen "WERE" Freddie, John, Roger and Brian, or it should read Queen "ARE" Roger and Brian!!!!

emrabt wrote: Earwig the latest releases are tinted yellow. Eagle rock tint all of their stuff blue or yellow, No idea why. link

Vocal harmony wrote: It's pointless comparing colours between Wembley and Budapest. Wembley was shot mostly in day light or fading day light. Budapest was shot later at night in the dark. The stage at wembley was much bigger than the European shows. Using the same lighting rig but having it spread out more with longer throws to the lighted subject the colours at wembley should be less vivid and reds, blues and greens particularly will tend to look more washed out. Making the comparisons that are being made, both shows would have to be shot under the same conditions with the same sized area being lit which they're not.

pittrek wrote:

popy wrote:

Bad Seed wrote: I think the colours on Hungarian Rhapsody are great!

X2. On VHS the colours are washed out, to yellow. Hungarian Rhapsody has more true-to-life skin colours. I think that even there's a filter on VHS release that erases (in some songs) pink colours. Look at Bohemian Rhapsody on Wembley. Freddie is on the piano and has pink and blue lights on him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNeNRG3FpCg Now let's look at Budapest Blu-Ray/DVD. Although the lightning rig is smaller than Wembley, the lights are a small version than the bigger stage version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r27rWqh6kN0 Now Budapest VHS. Where's pink lights on Freddie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1OxNccvEkk A Kind Of Magic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-CORnWpHWg Hungarian Rhapsody version. Skip to bass solo (3m30s)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLxN0wpFoP8   (Skip again to bass solo) VHS version with very little ammount of pink, and a very washed out blue. So, Budapest VHS has the right colours, and Wembley and Budapest Blu-Ray/DVD the wrong ones? I really don't think so. I think that colours on Hungarian Rhapsody are great. I think the VHS colours are WAY wrong. I can't really tell if it's to yellow-ish, to washed out or to brighter, all all of them, but are way wrong. The videos i posted prove it. I definitely prefer Hungarian Rhapsody colours.

First of all, I have no idea why do you use a bad VHS transfer as a video reference ? The youtube video is NOT how the VHS looks like. The same video you posted : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1OxNccvEkk proves that there ARE pink lights on Freddie's head & back (1:41) and blue lights on the bottom, just like anywhere else. The second example (A Kind Of Magic) shows that the VHS sourced clip is either desaturated or the BluRay is oversaturated. Check this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNoSCiPFcts&feature=related - this is a MUCH better representation of how the tape looks like. Go to 54:48 for the John Deacon segment. Also go to 17:20 for the bass solo in Magic. Now go to the beginning of both videos : Magic in Budapest : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNoSCiPFcts&feature=related Hungarian Rhapsody : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Si3H4BuHfe0 Check for example the part where the flag is in the wind on the stadium at the beginning. Or check the first video at 00:00:28 and compare it to the second video on 00:01:12. Do you really like pink skies ? Or compare the people in the next scenes. Or check the opening shot of Freddie, in the first video the lights behind him are yellow (correct), in the second video the lights behind him (the right bottom corner) are almost green. Do you see the stripes on Freddie's vest ? They don't look correct on any video, but they look better on the old one (more real to the real vest). Go to the next shot, the first shot of Brian. On the original video Brian's vest is white, in the new video it's blue, and you can clearly see that the whole image is shifted to blue. Etc, etc, etc. I still prefer the original colours, they look much more natural. The new Bluray was recoloured by Thomas Urbye and Jason Wallis and I can't say I'm impressed with their work

Vocal harmony wrote: To solve the dispute on which version of Budapest has the colors closer to natural, we'd need to find someone who's actually seen the actual film in cinema's in 1986.