QueenZone discussion #1326472
Hugarian Rhapsody
| Jon home 20.09.2012 15:21 |
I have just got back from the cinema as I only watched 10 mins of the concert. They tried to tell me at the cinema that only the documentary was in 5.1 & not the concert itself ? I am fuming, we could barely hear the concert from two small speakers at the front of the theatre. I hope nobody else had the same issues & heard it in wonderful sound, I guess that I will have to wait for the bluray sigh ! |
| inu-liger 20.09.2012 15:37 |
Had a similar problem when I went to see the David Gilmour "Remember That Night" theatrical run a few years ago! Except not only was it in stereo, the right channel came from the REAR right! |
| Jon home 20.09.2012 15:40 |
Hi Inu Luger, you won't beleive this but exactly the same for One vision & TYMD, several people noticed (I know) and complained but the usher though I was an alien or something when I tried to explain what they were doing wrong ? |
| inu-liger 20.09.2012 16:13 |
No surprise. Generally the ushers or people not directly involved with the technicality won't always understand what you're talking about, speaking from personal experience myself |
| Dane 20.09.2012 16:14 |
Same problem at my theater.. but from lap of the gods on it was great! Funny thing though, the theatre used my poster in stead of the original one :) |
| Jon home 20.09.2012 16:38 |
Glad to hear they sorted yours out Dane, I was very annoyed and walked out, glad they used your poster too ha ha ! |
| Head Gardener 20.09.2012 16:42 |
yes it was too bloody quiet at Cineworld in Northampton as well tonight... It got louder near the end but it should have been blasting from the start, it was still a great film, though my wife wasn't too impressed with Johns short-shorts! |
| cream 20.09.2012 16:58 |
Same in Bangor, N Ireland Such a shame If I knew it was going to be turned up on Sunday I'd go back |
| 4 x Vision 20.09.2012 17:07 |
Queen said, "Blind em and deafen em with the first few...".... well that definitely wasn't the case in Glasgow Cineworld as One Vision Intro began!!! I went numb had how low they had the volume... angry actually. I nearly walked out, but noticed a few angry viewers march out the door and quickly come back around Magic. From around Under Pressure the volume got better and worth staying for, although not as loud as I wished. The back speakers weren't even used. What a shame as the visuals were STUNNING and you could tell that at full belt it would sound awesome. HIGHLIGHTS ; Now I'm Here, Tutti Frutti, Bo Rap, Friends. Also, a lot of nice new camera angles. NEGATIVES ; All songs up to Under Pressure, only as they were so quiet. |
| cmsdrums 20.09.2012 17:25 |
So do we think it's a problem with the theatres not broadcasting it in the right sound format (ie stereo) or QPL have provided a fucked up master reel to all these places? They are used to all the films being broadcast in 5.1 audio so it's not a strange concept to the cinemas. |
| Bad Seed 20.09.2012 17:30 |
cmsdrums wrote: So do we think it's a problem with the theatres not broadcasting it in the right sound format (ie stereo) or QPL have provided a fucked up master reel to all these places? They are used to all the films being broadcast in 5.1 audio so it's not a strange concept to the cinemas.I think its a fucked up master, it was exactly the same in Boldon, Tyne and Wear. One vision was weak as piss and the first few songs had this weird crowd noise ON crowd noise OFF thing going on. |
| Jon home 20.09.2012 17:47 |
Yep definately a Cineworld issue, Didsbury (Manchester) was a failure, I walked out after TYMD & demanded refunds, we should all complain & demand that all customers are given a free showing otherwise the cinema don't understand what this mean't to us all. PS I left the cinema shouting "You can't do this to Queen you cheap bastards". |
| Bad Seed 20.09.2012 17:51 |
"Just saw the film at Movies@Swords in Dublin. The cinema was pretty full. Visually it was stunning but the sound was a major disappointment! The sound from the documentary which was on first was much better which is a joke! A number of people complained to the manager who was pretty stressed out by it. He said he'd set all the settings correctly and couldn't figure out why it was so poor. He said a colleague from another cinema in Dublin told him that they had the same problem and were also getting customer complaints. Basically the sound was very low - you could have a conversation with the person next to you without raising your voice!! He tried turning it up manually but it only improved it slightly. Brilliant film almost ruined by poor sound" That's a comment from someone on QOL. It does not seem to be a cineworld issue, all cinemas seem to have had the same problem. |
| Jon home 20.09.2012 17:55 |
Cheers pal, I am sure that QP will announce a apology, followed by a new 5.1 mix apology, then shortly after a deluxe apology ! |
| Future Manager 20.09.2012 18:08 |
Saw it in The Hague, it was pretty packed with some participation near the end. The sound unfortunately was very uneven. It seemed to me the theater wasn't properly configured at all to suit the mix. The beginning needed to be louder, but suddenly the explosions at the end of TYMD nearly brought the ceiling down. That shook everyone, it was great! The worst part for me was John's bass. Very little definition in what he was playing, mostly some low humming. Brian's guitar definately switched volume between songs, it's great on Rhye and then he's turned down on Tear It Up. No complaints about Roger's drums and Freddie's voice, they were at the forefront all the time. Overall it was worth it, picture quality is great and the uneven sound in my theater never ruined the performance (conversation was only possible during the non-heavy songs). Too bad they didn't take advantage of the new mix, which I'm sure will be great on the BluRay |
| AdamMethos 20.09.2012 18:18 |
I'm at the theatre in Toronto, 20 minutes till showtime. Sold out show! (Canadians love Queen!) There's a whole row in the theatre marked Reserved, and a concierge with a guest list out front to check in some "special" attendees. No idea who they are, but hopefully this means they have taken extra steps to ensure the sound and picture will be great! |
| jamiedavis 20.09.2012 18:18 |
same in Portsmouth. after 3 or 4 complaints, the volume was turned up but was then very 'hissy'. very poor. the documentary sound (music) was SO loud, it hurt! very disappointing. i'd rather have watched my VHS. also, what the HELL happened to Crazy? i thought this was the complete concert now? not bloody Live Magic! |
| jamiedavis 20.09.2012 18:18 |
same in Portsmouth. after 3 or 4 complaints, the volume was turned up but was then very 'hissy'. very poor. the documentary sound (music) was SO loud, it hurt! very disappointing. i'd rather have watched my VHS. also, what the HELL happened to Crazy? i thought this was the complete concert now? not bloody Live Magic! |
| AdamMethos 20.09.2012 18:33 |
Well, one of the special guests is Jeff somebody, co-founder of Eagle Rock. He's introducing the film. He says Eagle Rock has taken over the Queen film archive from Hollywood Records as of Sept 1 and they have more concert film planned. |
| epson 20.09.2012 19:12 |
Same problem at the Savoy in Dublin...the sound lacked ooooomph....... Also they never bothered to show the documentary before the concert. |
| popy 20.09.2012 19:32 |
Same in Portugal. The documentary audio? Loud. When the concert itself began, very low volume. At some point it went loud. I saw two or three people walk out the room, so i assume they complained. They got back, and after a while the sound was ok, but we couldn't almost hear John. At some point the sound went low volume again, but before it went down, the sound turned off completely two times in a row, and volume went down again, i think on Hammer To Fall. But i think it was on WWRY the volume went loud again. I thought the problem was on the cinema itself. But now, seeing everyone complaining, all cinemas got a screwed up copy. The visuals? Stunning. And with the RIGHT COLOURS. For example: Bohemian Rhapsody. Check the VHS version link where's the pink (pinkish) colour on Freddie? You see it here in the new version. link Do you still think the new verson is wrong? See Bohemian Rhapsody in Wembley link So, the VHS is wrong. Although in Wembley the stage is bigger, Budapest uses the same lights, but on a smaller scale. But the ambience the lightning rig gives is the same. But for example on WATC Budapest VHS, Freddie has pink lights on him, and we see them on Wembley, and the new HD version we saw tonight. But why there are pink lights on Freddie on Bohemian Rhapsody, but these are not on VHS, but on WATC VHS they appear? For me, it's the VHS Budapest that's wrong. Now we see it as it should be seen. |
| Mr.QueenFan 20.09.2012 20:06 |
I didn't watch it, but it's very sad that this things happen to those who atended the screening. Even though this could be a fucked up copy of the concert, shouldn't people in cinemas check if everything is OK BEFORE screning the show? Because i find it strange that it's happening across the globe without anyone noticing first. If Queen people don't receive the feedback there's nothing they can do to fix the error in the first place. This is very strange. Let's wait for some clarification from QP, wich i'm surre will happen soon. |
| Missreclusive 20.09.2012 20:42 |
Am supposed to go on Sat. How disappointing! Just now I phoned the theater to ask about attendance and sound. Spoke to the manager and he said the sound seemed ok and no one had complained...not one of the 20 people had complained. Twenty?! Geez. He added that he had stepped in a couple of times and it sounded good to him. ?? Also, instead of Sat, they are showing it on Sun then again on Thurs eve. |
| dowens 20.09.2012 21:11 |
I just watched it here in America. Not many people were there, but I didn't care. The theater had a problem getting it started, but we finally got started. The sound was good, but expected better in a cinema. However, I had a great time and cant wait to get this on DVD and CD! |
| dowens 20.09.2012 21:14 |
By the way, our screening sound was fine. The audio in the documentary was soft, but not the concert. I found the live stuff on the documentary interesting...following the Magic tour. |
| Liquid Scream 20.09.2012 21:33 |
Just got back from the theater here in Ottawa. The documentary audio was at a decent volume and the concert was good and LOUD from the start. I thought the picture quality looked great and I had forgot how good a performance it was. |
| soxtalon 20.09.2012 21:47 |
Here in America - our theater had problems at the beginning with the audio. We didn't have any...then we'd have bursts of 30 seconds before cutting out. Finally they fixed it and restarted the film. The documentary volume was a *bit* low, the concert itself though was PERFECT volume. Of course there were seven people in the theater :( Four of which were myself, my sister, and my two daughters. ah well.. |
| AdamMethos 20.09.2012 21:48 |
Here in Toronto... Documentary quiet. Concert loud, but movie theater loud, not rock concert loud. And, as someone said, only the front speakers were used so no surround sound. The film sold out so they switched us to a larger theater at the last minute. The audience was mostly quiet, though there were laughs at funny Freddie moments in the documentary and the concert. After Under Pressure, the lady next to me and I started clapping then realized, oops we're at a movie not a concert. I heard similar scattered claps after other songs, so it was like the audience wanted to get into it but were just to polite and reserved to let go haha. When Brian's guitar solo started, several people got up and left the theater -- they came back later so I assume it was a bathroom break. LOL! So I had a great time, loved the film, and can't wait for it to come out on DVD so I can watch it again! |
| AdamMethos 20.09.2012 21:56 |
So it appears that the sound issues are only in UK/European theaters and North American theaters are fine? How very strange... |
| Crazy LittleThing 20.09.2012 22:35 |
Just saw it here in the Washington, DC area. Documentary sound was soft but completely audible. Concert sound was fine. Loud, but not too loud. Not in 5.1. What a fantastic concert. All the guys were in great form. John's shorts made me thankful it wasn't in 3-D. Really glad we went. Go to one of the upcoming shows at your local theatre if you can. |
| kohuept 20.09.2012 22:56 |
Here in Utah, they started playing The Words instead of the concert since it was the theater Queen was "renting" for the showing. About 10 minutes after we pointed that out to the usher, the projectionist switched it over to the concert. It started with Freddie singing the last bit of Tavaszi Szél Vizet Áraszt but even that was just a blank screen for the few seconds it was on. The concert started and was very quiet. I'm convinced most of it was in mono. It seemed that the vocals in Now I'm Here were the only things in any sort of stereo. I noticed a lot of shifting in volume as a lot of people have pointed out. It really did sound like 'volume correction/stabilization' was being used. The whole thing reminded me of the Ukraine concert, though not quite as bad. I'm assuming we completely missed the documentary. |
| Kamenliter 21.09.2012 00:05 |
I saw it tonight and after reading everyone's comments I feel I should have my money refunded! I didn't even get the documentary! Before the movie started they were having trouble with the disk, as a DVD menu came up on the screen. Then they started and stopped a few chapter markings, with int. clips with Freddie ,etc...but then the movie just started, with no documentary. I was confused but figured something was inaccurate in the ads and that the documentary would be on the Blu-Ray...I guess the people at the theater had no idea what they were supposed to show. On top of that, the sound was very low and only coming from speakers at the screen. No surround sound at all. This was at the Edgewater Multiplex in Edgewater, NJ. There were a total of 21 people in the theater. |
| jondickens1 21.09.2012 00:49 |
How strange! I had the same sound issues as the majority of the fans have mentioned on this thread. The documentry sound was ok.But the concert volume was so quiet.I saw 5 or 6 people dash out to complain during One vision and TYMD.It did improve afterwards but the surround sound didn't seem to be working properly.I went to Showcase Cinema in Nottingham. The concert itself was amazing however,and once the volume levels were addressed i appreciated the remixing that had been done;the quality was a thing of beauty.I also appreciated the fact that in the few moments of the concert where Freddie did f*** up the vocals,they weren't corrected,namely the end of One Vision in the fill before TYMD. Hammer to fall had a much much better mix then the old VHS,which imo always sounded muddy.This was much crisper and snappier. Its a shame the concert was still edited exactly the same as the VHS.I can only assume the complete film has been lost.But i simply cannot wait for the cd release of this where its the complete concert.That is simply awesome!!!! |
| jondickens1 21.09.2012 00:55 |
I forgot to mention,the clips of Slane Castle,Newcastle.So,...............where did the audio come from for that????That sounded like soundboard quality to me.QPL must have the recordings of these concerts,at least in part??????? |
| rocknrolllover 21.09.2012 01:32 |
is it really all bad? Or how many people have so many opinions? |
| on my way up 21.09.2012 01:55 |
I went to Mechelen in Belgium and also here there were serious issues with the sound. It was actually very bad. It started off with only the frontspeakers working. By Tie your mother down it got a bit better but sound remained weak for the rest of the evening. Really sad since I had hoped to be blown away by this concert in the cinema. I know in my head how it's supposed to sound and then you get the sound of an average soundboard bootleg recording...(I'm not kiddin'). Some people seemed to be happy when going home but don't know what kind of ears those people have.. |
| Dane 21.09.2012 02:11 |
I think the cinemas are not to blame. They are not used to their presentations to have to be adjusted after 30 minutes. If the documentary would have been treated the same as the concert it would have sounded great from the start. ---------- About the documentary. That was quite nice to see. A lot of unseen interview stuff and some music video outtakes (Princes, AKOM) which were in superb quality. Not the actual music video footage.. that was crappy upscaled stuff. I loved the point where they showed the supporting act in Budapest. The entire audience had a good laugh :) |
| Queen1973 21.09.2012 02:50 |
Yeah same at Cineworld shrewsbury as soon as one vision started the sound was to low and wrong, 3 girls behind me went to complain, then a i shooted turn it up some guy also complained then they came in and turned it up at in the lap of the gods...but apart from explosion noises this was NOT in 5.1...WTF we all need to complain and this we should get the bluray for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.. |
| Queen1973 21.09.2012 02:51 |
kevinhairsineevans wrote: Yeah same at Cineworld shrewsbury as soon as one vision started the sound was to low and wrong, 3 girls behind me went to complain, then a i shouted turn it up some guy also complained then they came in and turned it up at in the lap of the gods...but apart from explosion noises this was NOT in 5.1...WTF we all need to complain and this we should get the bluray for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..p.s. the picture quality was amazing...but this will be shelved in my house and to many cuts no point releasing it really give us a concert from the 70s....... |
| Queen1973 21.09.2012 02:51 |
kevinhairsineevans wrote: Yeah same at Cineworld shrewsbury as soon as one vision started the sound was to low and wrong, 3 girls behind me went to complain, then a i shouted turn it up some guy also complained then they came in and turned it up at in the lap of the gods...but apart from explosion noises this was NOT in 5.1...WTF we all need to complain and this we should get the bluray for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..p.s. the picture quality was amazing...but this will be shelved in my house and to many cuts no point releasing it really give us a concert from the 70s....... |
| tomchristie22 21.09.2012 05:02 |
Sigh. It seems the sound problem was pretty much universal - the documentary was deafening at mine, and then the show itself sounded very distant, and wasn't even utilising the surround sound. They fixed it a bit as it went on, but it was still underwhelming. I did quite enjoy the film itself though, just didn't appreciate the retards running it. |
| cmsdrums 21.09.2012 05:34 |
Well that's made my mind up to not bother going to see it then - I'll wait for the Blu Ray and hear it how it should sound (assuming QPL and Eagle Rock don't mess up the discs that is) |
| . 21.09.2012 05:46 |
What a shambles! |
| blackshuck03 21.09.2012 06:01 |
I went to vue cinema in london, we didnt even get to see the documentary they claimed that there was a fault with it and a sound issue with the concet itself and gave everybody in the cinema a free ticket for another time, i will use it on sunday when it is shown again and hope things are corrected, was disappointed that they didnt remove the band member footage from between the songs |
| blackshuck03 21.09.2012 06:01 |
I went to vue cinema in london, we didnt even get to see the documentary they claimed that there was a fault with it and a sound issue with the concet itself and gave everybody in the cinema a free ticket for another time, i will use it on sunday when it is shown again and hope things are corrected, was disappointed that they didnt remove the band member footage from between the songs |
| brians wig 21.09.2012 06:14 |
Sadly this is probably what's on the DVD. The documentary will be PCM audio, hence it was loud and the 5.1 of course will be dts, hence it was quiter. Don't know where the surround sound was though. Even during the guitar solo & Now I'm Here (where previous releases have gone to town with rear speakers) we heard nothing in Sheffield. Was it even turned on????? |
| dastard 21.09.2012 06:42 |
Went to the Amsterdam Pathe Cinema yesterday as a birthday present from a friend. The place was sold out, and i had fine seates, 3rd row from the back, almost middle. Everything sounded okay, the documentary was a little bit softer than the concert, but the concert sounded really good, a lot of low from Roger's kit, Brian's sound was a bit sharp in places but very clear, John's bass was put back in the mix, you could hear him but it was not at the same level as the rest, Freddie's voice sounded awesome. Some songs had surround, like the instrumental piece in Radio GaGa, there were some synth sounds coming from the left/behind but mostly the songs were in stereo. The quality of the film was very clear, at moments i felt as if i was there, that sharp, i enjoyed the concert, and all i could compare it with is my original VHS ;-) But hey, i got the poster from the concert ;-) |
| DLCVinnuendo 21.09.2012 07:23 |
Reading the reviews of the film here, I'm really quite worried if I see this movie in the theater, here in Brazil, only opening day in 10/24 |
| MJDSQ 21.09.2012 08:40 |
Its a shame that so many people could not enjoy the concert. I can only imagine that it was an issue with the cinemas itself. I've watched the concert in Sydney, AUS, and the concert audio was fantastic. |
| Sam99 21.09.2012 09:24 |
I saw Hungarian Rhapsody in Bangor Co Down last night and it was great. Parts of the documentary were a little grainy but concert was in 5.1 and no volume problem. Especially noticeable on guitar solo, NIH and a few other place. I know there are many complaints in these forums and like everyone would like to see shows from the seventies, however Queen must have their reasons. Anyway picture quality much better than Wembley a wonderful show, great to get the cinema effect re-affirmed my fan experience that Queen with Freddie were a class act. |
| kevin79 21.09.2012 09:58 |
Saw the concert last night in Reading, PA and I had the opposite experience of most of you. The sound was so quiet during the documentary that you could barly hear it. A few people complained to management and they turned it up. So, by the time the concert hit the volume was perfect. It was definitely in 5.1 and, to my ears, a very good mix. Bit of a shame that they couldn't find the raw footage to make the concert complete. But still, Freddie was made to be seen on the big screen. |
| juan1921 21.09.2012 10:01 |
Hey! I saw it yesterday in Buenos Aires. It had more or less the same problems as in the UK. The cinema was fully packed, around 200 people, who actually clapped and sang along to quite several songs. Documentary was a bit louder, with awful video. Concert was at proper volume. It was certainly not full HD video. And the sound had poor and good moments. It was 5.1 but it sounded odd, as if not well configured. First two songs had a strange sound, with some bursts of louder sound at parts. The rest of the concert was fine, except for a very hardly audible bass, and poor sound during the acoustic set with lower sounds collapsing speakers. Overall, it can be qualified as acceptable. |
| GonnaUseMyPrisoners 21.09.2012 10:12 |
I had similar issues with the QPR Ukraine showing in 2009 here in the US. HOWEVER, I went to an IPIC theatre for HR and it was FANTASTIC. I'm so glad! The sound in both the documentary section and concert were both just right. Nice and loud for the show. TYMD and CLTCL both edited, color me pissed off. Great vocal performance from Freddie, great guitar from Brian too. As an ensemble, though... well... I think they do that better these days! Very clear sound indeed. Can't wait for the CD. |
| The Real Wizard 21.09.2012 10:33 |
AdamMethos wrote: Well, one of the special guests is Jeff somebody, co-founder of Eagle Rock. He's introducing the film. He says Eagle Rock has taken over the Queen film archive from Hollywood Records as of Sept 1 and they have more concert film planned.^ most important post in the thread right there. |
| s.m. 21.09.2012 10:44 |
in edmonton docu was silent, concert was loud west edmonton mall scotiabank theatre was full about 15-20% i was disappointed with the video, was satisfied with the audio |
| The Real Wizard 21.09.2012 10:57 |
The documentary was good. Some recycled footage, some new footage. The bits of footage from Mannheim, Slane and Newcastle are all from TV and have been seen before, but are probably new to most people. Soundboard audio was likely synched to them, as they sounded great. The band did record these shows properly. But the video quality of Newcastle was horrendous, which was either a YouTube rip or from a bad mpeg source. For the Knebworth clip of Radio Ga Ga, they actually used the audience footage of the Starvision screen, which cut into the familiar pro footage. Without a doubt, the best moment of the night was when they showed the Hungarian support act, which everyone laughed pretty hard at. The volume was perfect, and Brian's entry into One Vision knocked my socks off. It sounded massive. The sound was excellent, but I must agree with anyone who thought John's bass lacked some definition at times. The friend I was with thought cutting away from the music to the non-concert segments provided a good breather from the concert, particularly after the assault of the first 6 songs. Brian's solo was in MONO, as was the opera section of BoRhap and God Save The Queen. The rear channels weren't up and running, so these bits of the 5.1 mix were lost. The video quality was just stunning. They've cleaned it up well, and it looks like it was filmed yesterday. While it's disappointing that the film was the exact same edit that was released in 1987, at least we can look forward to hearing the complete audio when it's released in November. |
| Dane 21.09.2012 11:20 |
Brian's solo in MONO? Not where I saw it. Glorious STEREO :) |
| GratefulFan 21.09.2012 11:29 |
I enjoyed the evening, but the experience was certainly entirely different than the Rock Montreal screening at the same theatre a few years ago. First, this time around it all happened right in the middle of a local annual Film Festival which may have explained why the crowd was extremely small compared to the packed sold out show of hundreds for Montreal. I counted 35 people in the theatre at the beginning of the show, saw three bail at the beginning of Tear it Up, four at the vocal improv and missed the other exits that resulted in just 21 people remaining at the end. Montreal felt like a concert and the crowd responded more like a concert crowd and not a movie theatre crowd. This time, but for one guy who clapped during Ga Ga everybody was just quiet other than a smattering of applause at the end. The sound was a real issue. The documentary started at a volume like you were at home watching in your living room and you turned it down because somebody was sleeping on the couch. I'm sure anybody chewing popcorn didn't hear a thing. At some point the future Ga Ga clapper yelled at somebody to turn it up and it was turned up, however but for a few songs that seemed to pop there was a definite feel of distance and dullness in the audio. The video was just OK. Really what it felt like was watching a 40 foot YouTube video for a couple of hours. My mind wandered a lot, which certainly didn't happen watching Rock Montreal which was riveting aurally and visually. Because the audio issues seemed to prevent any real momentum from ever truly building the edits between concert footage and documentary footage were a little disconcerting. It was still a fun experience, and any opportunity to see and hear them in a novel way is worthwhile, but there were disappointments for sure after my expectations had been set by Montreal. |
| AdamMethos 21.09.2012 12:10 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Without a doubt, the best moment of the night was when they showed the Hungarian support act, which everyone laughed pretty hard at.Glad you got to go after all! Were you at the Toronto screening too? I forgot about the support act but yeah, that definitely got the biggest laughs of the night! I'm wondering about a couple things not related to the sound. (haha) Who was the second guitarist? I missed catching the name in the end credits. And why was Brian's guitar trailing a long cord when John and Freddie (during Crazy Little Thing) had wireless packs for their bass and guitar. Was there some sound quality that Brian would lose if he went wireless too? |
| san1a 21.09.2012 15:26 |
"The Queen: Hungarian Rhapsody - Live In Budapest was a one day special event. September 20th 2012 was the only show and there are no other scheduled performances." - Cineplex, Toronto. WHAAAAAT?????? I'VE MISSED IT!!! :'( Omg, I didn't read that info, who and where it was posted??? noOOOOOOOOoooo!!! |
| tomchristie22 21.09.2012 20:08 |
AdamMethos wrote: I'm wondering about a couple things not related to the sound. (haha) Who was the second guitarist? I missed catching the name in the end credits. And why was Brian's guitar trailing a long cord when John and Freddie (during Crazy Little Thing) had wireless packs for their bass and guitar. Was there some sound quality that Brian would lose if he went wireless too?The guy who played rhythm guitar in Hammer To Fall was Spike Edney, who also played keys throughout the show. There was a shot of him at the start of I Want To Break Free, and he was also clearly visible on piano in Tutti Frutti and Crazy Little Thing. He's toured with Queen on and off since 1984. Brian always used that long curly cord, so he obviously preferred it over wireless technology for whatever reason. Maybe he was just more comfortable knowing that his guitar was physically connected to something, or it might've been to do with difference in sound. |
| AdamMethos 21.09.2012 22:10 |
Oh man! I actually recognized Spike on keyboards but didn't recognize him on the guitar. I thought it was a different person. DUH on me! |
| on my way up 22.09.2012 02:50 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Well, Bob, I cannot agree.AdamMethos wrote: Well, one of the special guests is Jeff somebody, co-founder of Eagle Rock. He's introducing the film. He says Eagle Rock has taken over the Queen film archive from Hollywood Records as of Sept 1 and they have more concert film planned.^ most important post in the thread right there. For people - like me - who stopped working early, drove quite a few miles and paid tickets to go and see the "Hugarian Rhapsody" to then find a screening with totally appalling sound... Well, trying to get rid of that enormous frustration is a lot more important to me than the fact there will be other releases in the future. What I witnessed was some of the worst promotion for the band which is such a pity...beacause the actual performance is absolutely mindblowing. I knew exactly how it COULD sound but it sounded nothing like that. I'm sure the blu ray and CD's will sound great so I'm sure I'll be able to enjoy it in my "home cinema" where I only have stereo sound which is a million times better than the crap at the cinema. |
| Supersonic_Man89 22.09.2012 03:10 |
Seems like QPL messed up again. Embarrassing. |
| C_Matt 22.09.2012 03:25 |
I just came back a few hours ago from the cinema Showcase from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I really liked very much the concert, the refreshing remastered film and the awesome quality (you could notice drops of sweat at Freddie, or real and vivid colors, the Brian's hand take at the piano on WWtLF, just awesome quality). The show gave you some times the feeling you were in a concert if you really wanted to get envolved, with the people clapping after some songs. I'm glad they didn't cut off the bits of the band members, those are a good inclusion, to know a bit better their personalities. The beggining documentary was a good brief to put you in the context. There were lots of funny moments. The people in the cinema was very mixed: children taken there by their parents (and viceversa) young people, older too. I took my father to watch the concert. This movie was a good way to reach new markets. Full cinema, 16 rows and 26 or 28 seats in each one, so about 400-450 persons there . The cinema was half clapping and singing, mainly after the "EEEEEEEROOOO" part. In Radio Ga Ga you could notice that, how the 50/60% of the audience raised up their hands, singed and clapped. The songs in which the people didn't get too involved were in the first ones (till UP), Now I'm here, and Tutti Frutti. Anyway, it gave me shivers how the people singed along WWtLF, BohRha, WATC, WWRY, RGG, HtF, FWBF, CLTCL, and the acoustics, it was like an "all together" feeling. This doesn't mean that they were standed up shouting to the screen (how I expected it to be); all this was from the seat. I think the main problem was that the sound wasn't the loud enough. When people clapped at IWtBF, they felt a bit stupid (including myself), because the claps sounded louder than the movie you coudn't hear the song (like when opening a snacks bag). The sorround was very low (or it just wasn't there), so all the music came from the fronts and one speaker at the back, which sounded like the center speaker to me. At least it was on stereo, as at WAtC Freddie came from the right channel and Roger from the left one. On RGG you could feel the sequencer behind you. There were many volume differences, after guitar solos mainly. The piano and the guitar were very low, and stole body to all songs; when suddenly, Freddie and Roger explodes all. Roger's cymbals were too low (except the hi-hat). The experience: 9/10. I expected more participation, but I enjoyed watching the concert with my dad and being with some other die hard fans. Some sound problems (I hope from the cinema), but great quality. A good product. |
| Battler 22.09.2012 04:53 |
I'm just surprised noone is criticizing the biggest problem with event: the entire eastern half of EU, with the sole excpetion of Hungary, isn't being shown the product, and the EU is supposed to be a single market! Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, Romania... why are we not getting it shown? Is this some form of discrimination? |
| pittrek 22.09.2012 08:56 |
Battler wrote: Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, Romania... why are we not getting it shown? Is this some form of discrimination?I don't understand it too - there are MANY Queen fans in this part of Europe. We would love to see the movie too |
| jozef 22.09.2012 14:28 |
it may be because we are in this territory 24 years ago saw it in cinemas ... |
| Battler 22.09.2012 15:24 |
Well even Hungary saw it 24 years ago, yet they're still showing it there, so that can't be the reason. I think they will show it here too, except later, like every company does anyway. |
| cmsdrums 23.09.2012 11:36 |
jozef wrote: it may be because we are in this territory 24 years ago saw it in cinemas ...Not according to QPL you didn't if you believe the press release!! |
| Holly2003 23.09.2012 12:11 |
Just saw it in the cinema. Quick review: wasn't in surround sound, only stereo. No sound problems at all. Weird watching a concert in the cinema. There were oly about a dozen people in at most. There was no clapping or cheering. Queen Productions have done a good job this time. Although the bass guitar might've been higher in the mix, this was pretty good, and I heard a lot of "new" things I hadn't noticed on the old VHS. Fred sounds really good on the lower and falsetto notes, and only a little rough at other times. Overall, very impressed. Roger gave a high energy performance and sang well. Brian did a very professional show but didn't seem to be enjoying it quite as much as the others. Deaky's a madman: his dancing during WWRY has to be seen to be believed. I also like how he harrassed tourists beside the Danube; his yellow jogging outfit looks like it was a Xmas pressie from his mother, and those shorts were straight from an '80s porn movie. Great to see him having so much fun. The overall sound was powerful and brash -- just like a rock concert should be. Best performances were UP, Lap/Gods and AKOM. The documentary was just okay -- weak at the start, but improved as it progressed. A few emotional moments for me. I had a real sense of both pleasure and sadness seeing Fred so fit and into it. We lost a lot when he passed away :( ps was that a Gibson Melody Maker Spike was playing during Hammer to Fall? |
| jozef 23.09.2012 13:30 |
cmsdrums wrote: Not according to QPL you didn't if you believe the press release!! QPL is today filled by incompetent arrogants... :-( |
| Justin Bieber 23.09.2012 15:38 |
With sound only coming from the front, or louder in some parts and quieter in others, audience noise coming in and out, my quick diagnosis is that the material was perhaps presented to theaters properly with 5.1 sound, but that many theaters didn't adapt it to their existing sound systems very well. Quiet bits could be the result of missing channels. Documentary might be louder because it would be mixed to proper stereo rather than 5.1. Unfortunately sometimes a 5.1 mix is rendered in stereo simply by using the L + R of the 5.1, rather than by using a proper downmix. This results in the material from the other channels being absent. |
| Missreclusive 23.09.2012 21:44 |
Went today, sound was very low for nearly half, then grew louder. I looked around and seriously thought one of the senior centers was having a day out! lol...oh my. I think one dude was sleeping. I'm not exaggerating, most appeared quite a bit older than me, as in 70's and 80's. It was pretty funny. I had to sit on my hands to keep from over head clapping during Radio Ga Ga. I sang when I wanted to ...figured their hearing aids were turned way down. Unbelievable. No one laughed, no one cried, or sang or reacted in anyway whatsoever. Theater was about half full. Now I'm wondering if I should go again this next Thursday and beg the manager to turn the damned sound up?! |
| tomchristie22 24.09.2012 01:02 |
Sounds pretty similar to mine, I spotted a couple of oldish people who seemed to be asleep. The Queen fan base in my area are evidently not very enthusiastic. |
| drjones 24.09.2012 03:45 |
I went to see it last night (23/09) in my home town Barnsley and it was stunning ! The cinema manager is a Queen fan so put extra speakers in to ensure the sound was top notch. Firstly the picture was stunning in the full stage shots it really looked like the band was there on stage in the cinema ! As someone said Freddie looked amazing he was at the top of his game and in my opinion untouchable. The sound mix was great a little bass heavy but all instruments came through loud and clear. All in all a great job has been done on this and is a perfect document to prove that in 1986 Queen were the best band on the planet ! |
| Hang On In There 24.09.2012 04:55 |
saw it at a late night showing as part of the Cambridge Film Festival - we didn't get the documentary but the concert film was awesome! I'm sorry so many people experienced problems with the sound - we didn't have any. I have seen the film before,a long a time ago, and I'd forgotten how good it was, and how much better it is, as a film of the Magic Tour, than the Wembley show. Best ever performance of Who Wants To Live Forever? As soon as Amazon lists this I'm buying it. |
| malicedoom 24.09.2012 09:34 |
Saw it in Rosemont, IL - USA on Thursday night. Documentary was VERY quiet, but the concert was decent (not great, could have definitely been louder) volume. Hardly anyone there, but those that were made sure we all clapped and cheered. A very nice time. |
| Battler 26.09.2012 14:25 |
I'm appalled. How come noone of the people with access to the film is showing any kind of solidarity towards those of us that can't watch it because it simply isn't shown in our countries? Not a single person decided to eg. boycott the screening in protest to this kind of treatment or show ANY kind of support. Instead, we're being simply ignored. I see plenty of people going here, saying "yes I saw it", and not a single person bothering to even reply to our plea! Had US and UK been excluded, we'd have seen tons of people here complaining and calling for boycotts, but when Eastern Europe gets excluded, NONE of them even cares. Come on people, support our plea! Don't leave us alone! |
| Fireplace 26.09.2012 16:38 |
Battler wrote: I'm appalled. How come noone of the people with access to the film is showing any kind of solidarity towards those of us that can't watch it because it simply isn't shown in our countries? Not a single person decided to eg. boycott the screening in protest to this kind of treatment or show ANY kind of support. Instead, we're being simply ignored. I see plenty of people going here, saying "yes I saw it", and not a single person bothering to even reply to our plea! Had US and UK been excluded, we'd have seen tons of people here complaining and calling for boycotts, but when Eastern Europe gets excluded, NONE of them even cares. Come on people, support our plea! Don't leave us alone!I support your plea! As we Westerners all know Brian May personally, I will make sure he is cane-whipped tomorrow while being forced to watch 10 professional wrestlers eat live badgers with brown sauce. It is an outrage that Lithuania does not show the movie, as we all know that Lithunian support kept Queen in business almost singlehandedly in 1986. How dare they ignore a country that, errrm, did not yet exist in 1986? |
| Battler 27.09.2012 08:11 |
>>I support your plea! As we Westerners all know Brian May personally, I will make sure he is cane-whipped tomorrow while being forced to watch 10 professional wrestlers eat live badgers with brown sauce. It is an outrage that Lithuania does not show the movie, as we all know that Lithunian support kept Queen in business almost singlehandedly in 1986. How dare they ignore a country that, errrm, did not yet exist in 1986?<< First, it's not just Lithuania that's being ignored, but the entire Eastern Europe, including countries that existed in 1986, such as Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria. Second, Lithuania existed as the Lithuanian SSR of the USSR. All countries existed, just some were part of bigger ones. Contrary to your belief, there wasn't a sea between West Germany and the Russian SFSR of the USSR with just the Island of Hungary floating on it - there was the same land there is now, just parts of it were controlled by entities such as Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and the USSR which now no longer exist. Also what justification is that, to ignore a country because it's small or because it "didn't yet exist in 1986"? Especially if the country is part of the EU, which is supposed to have a single market, which in my interpretaton, means every part of EU should have the same access to everything. So by not showing the film in half of the EU, Queen are violating the EU single market. But well if they have the same attitude you showed here, then I'm not surprised at all that the situation is as it is. It's the very same old typical Western attitude after all, to consider anything east of Germany to be second-rate. Also I never said anyone knew Brian May personally or that he should be whipped - all I asked for was showing support by eg. refusing to go watch the film until the missing parts get it shown too. Or at the very least by commenting on Queenonline, sharing our concern and plea. |
| Fireplace 27.09.2012 16:04 |
Valid points and eloquently stated. You may however have missed my point: this is Queen-friggin'-Zone. No one here will refuse to go see the film just because some other parts of the world do not have access to it. I haven't seen it myself since it's not in any cinema near me, and I won't until the Blu-Ray is released. I sincerely hope you will get to see it soon, but an appeal to this kind of solidarity may be too much to ask. |
| Missreclusive 27.09.2012 23:22 |
Now I feel guilty, I saw it twice, again tonight. I did ask the manager of theater to turn up the sound. A few minutes into the documentary someone else complained and they turned it up. Sound was much better but not perfect, still wasnt loud enough for me! Love love love seeing Queen on a big screen. Ah well, I did enjoy it very much, even if the crowd was pretty sedate...again. |
| malicedoom 28.09.2012 10:44 |
"Not a single person decided to eg. boycott the screening in protest to this kind of treatment or show ANY kind of support. Instead, we're being simply ignored." Yeah, OK. There were barely any people in the theatre there as it was, and I'm going to go out of my way NOT to see Queen on the big screen (in AMERICA, of all places, where it used to be impossible to find them at all), especially considering I have NEVER had that chance before?? What are you smoking... |
| Battler 28.09.2012 11:03 |
Well, at least comment on Queenonline in support of us and of our please? The problem is, none of you even comment on Queenonline in support of us. Basically if American gets it, who cares about the rest of the world... |
| DLCVinnuendo 28.09.2012 20:09 |
here in brazil on 10/24!!!! link |
| brunogorski 29.09.2012 13:39 |
:) |
| Wiley 29.09.2012 23:32 |
Saw the movie during a business trip to Ft. Lauderdale, FL. It was a very old, small, yet artsy theater called Cinema Paradiso. Small screen but the sound was loud and very good throughout the whole show. No complains from me. After seeing everybody's comments, apparently I was lucky. |
| mr feller 7777 30.09.2012 03:25 |
I saw it in Adelaide and the sound was also low at the start of the concert but got louder as it went on. The audience got right into it but went to far when people lit their cigarette lighters during Love Of My Life which set the fire sprinkler system off but the show went on and it was like watching the concert in the rain. |
| Missreclusive 30.09.2012 13:48 |
mr feller 7777 wrote: I saw it in Adelaide and the sound was also low at the start of the concert but got louder as it went on. The audience got right into it but went to far when people lit their cigarette lighters during Love Of My Life which set the fire sprinkler system off but the show went on and it was like watching the concert in the rain.LOL, priceless. I love this one. |
| . 30.09.2012 17:13 |
Thanks for making me laugh. |