| AdamMethos 30.08.2012 15:14 |
Marc's latest tweet! Marc Martel @marcmartel I'll be performing with Roger Taylor and Brian May on Monday at the Savoy in London for the "Freddie For A Day" benefit. #FreddieForADay Anyone from here going? |
| kosimodo 30.08.2012 15:54 |
i bet the crowd goes nuts.. and Brian and Roger do get it afterwards... I see a tour coming;) |
| 99jaystang 30.08.2012 16:35 |
I did hear his band is breaking up at the end of the year.... Should I go buy a lottery ticket? |
| pipijolk 30.08.2012 16:54 |
This HAD to happen, even if it is just this once, (which I hope it isn't) they had to brave the waters and embrace the potential of the gift of music they can still perform. Can't wait to see this. Can't wait |
| cmsdrums 30.08.2012 17:16 |
Can't wait to see if they suddenly realise what they have with him out front. I may be putting 2 + 2 together and making 347, but with them playing together 'on the sly' (maybe as a trial), Martel's band of many years splitting, and Spike saying he's hoping for a big (as yet unnamed) world tour next year, I'm really hoping for something is planned out of this! |
| Missreclusive 30.08.2012 17:24 |
Ohhhh! I wish I could be there, I so wish!!! Someone pleeeeeeeeease record this! I'm begging. If they never do it again I want to enjoy it. |
| Missreclusive 30.08.2012 17:26 |
I wish I had the money, I would fly there to see that show. I am so jealous of you who get to go! Dont miss that one! |
| pipijolk 30.08.2012 17:39 |
And, really, this is the perfect event, venue, to get up on stage and deliver some tunes. It is an event where you're likely to get a fair and honest reaction from those in attendance. It is a light-hearted event (despite the absence of Freddie, it goes without saying) with comedy and amusement, and then cap it off with some brilliant performances and you could sweep everyone off their feet in amazement. It has that kind of potential. |
| Mr.QueenFan 30.08.2012 18:16 |
Things are going good for Marc Martel and I wish him all the success he deserves. |
| Derk 30.08.2012 18:46 |
99jaystang wrote: I did hear his band is breaking up at the end of the year.... Should I go buy a lottery ticket?His band, downhere, is not breaking up. They are putting their touring ministry on a hiatus for a while. |
| winterspelt 30.08.2012 19:26 |
Im usually happy when the Brian and Roger play with another people, but I kind of feel very wrong that they will play with a Freddie imitator... While I do accept the fact that Martel can sing (I saw QE live) I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel. |
| BelfastQueenFan 30.08.2012 19:44 |
WHy would he stop acting like Freddie Mercury when he was in a Queen TRIBUTE band? That makes, like no sense. Secondly, he naturally sounds like Freddie that's the point. He cant alter his vocal chords. |
| Gregsynth 30.08.2012 19:49 |
Marc Martel isn't a Freddie imitator. |
| Missreclusive 30.08.2012 19:57 |
So true, he isn't a Freddie imitator at all. Who of you will attend? I need to know so I can direct my jealousy where it needs to go. lol |
| pipijolk 30.08.2012 19:58 |
BelfastQueenFan wrote: WHy would he stop acting like Freddie Mercury when he was in a Queen TRIBUTE band? That makes, like no sense. Secondly, he naturally sounds like Freddie that's the point. He cant alter his vocal chords.Yes, agree. His cheek-bones and jaw structure are very similar to Freddie, so it isn't far-fetched to think they might have 'similar' qualities to their vocals. That is the appeal for me, the similar tonality, as Roger stated. And as far as how he acts, it is a difficult spot for him, and I think he has been better off handling his stage presence the way he has been doing on tour. I think he's trying to maintain a proper balance that is difficult to narrow down. He doesn't want to be TOO much like Freddie, as some tribute bands play up, and he doesn't want to be too aloof to the whole Queen vibe to the point where he might be criticized for being too much like he doesn't care. He doesn't have the clout a Paul Rodgers has where "Paul Rodgers can be Paul Rodgers". If he doesn't fit the bill in the exact right way, there will be criticism from both sides. Either too much like Freddie, or too aloof to the Queen legacy. That is criticism reserved for the harsher critics, as the middle ground probably would be more forgiving if Marc isn't PERFECT in every way conceivable. |
| Missreclusive 30.08.2012 20:19 |
You guys have to forgive me (or not!) for the many posts in this thread. I am like a stupid teenager over this one and will be anxious to see how it plays out. I agree pipijolk, but then there will certainly be criticism no matter what. I do think Marc will rise to it and be great no matter what. Like you stated, it's the tonality, along with range that he brings to Queen legacy. If he relaxes and has a ton of fun with it, it will be infectious and the crowd will go nuts! He certainly has the talent. |
| winterspelt 30.08.2012 22:38 |
BelfastQueenFan wrote: WHy would he stop acting like Freddie Mercury when he was in a Queen TRIBUTE band? That makes, like no sense. Secondly, he naturally sounds like Freddie that's the point. He cant alter his vocal chords.I was talking about Marc acting like Freddie while singing with Roger and Brian, perhaps I should have written my prev post in a better way, sorry! Let me try again: I know QE is basically a tribute band, and I know Marc "have" to sing like Freddie, but I also know that the guy have his own style and while his voice may sound like Freddie's, he (Marc) have his own personality... His voice may sound like Freddie's but his style is different and that style does change the whole picture. The fact that his voice is similar to Freddie doesnt means that he have to sing like Freddie. In the same way, somebody using Brian's gear will never sound like Brian unless you are an imitator. With that in mind, I hope that if the Queen gig becomes reality, it could be "Queen + Marc Martel" (or whetever they call it) instead of "Queen + Marc Martel, the guy from QE who basically imitates Freddie" |
| the dude 1366 30.08.2012 22:58 |
I saw Marc Martel on the Extravaganza tour. There are some natural similarities, but Marc is NOT an imitator. Also, the crowd loved him. He is even better live than you would expect. |
| the dude 1366 30.08.2012 23:02 |
Just to add to my last thingy.. This would be the best way to finish off a career. We know it can't be much longer than a few more years |
| pipijolk 30.08.2012 23:23 |
the dude 1366 wrote: Just to add to my last thingy.. This would be the best way to finish off a career. We know it can't be much longer than a few more yearsTrue, if they have any unfinished business with regard to the "sound" of music (of Freddie) they have gathered over the years this might be the opportunity to explore by sitting down in a recording studio for a week or two to see what transpires, if anything. |
| Man from Zanzibar 31.08.2012 00:19 |
kosimodo wrote: i bet the crowd goes nuts.. and Brian and Roger do get it afterwards... I see a tour coming;)We'll see about that. You can't predict how the crowd reacts, maybe some would demand AL instead of MM, because Marc is too much of a "badly genetically engineered fake clone" in their eyes or something like that. I've seen a few die hard Queen fans really pissed off by Martel's performance. One of them even said that "he bastardized Freddie's legacy", lol. I couldn't agree with that, at least the dude sings the damn song properly, how it should be sung in concert, unlike... ehm... nevermind. |
| tomchristie22 31.08.2012 00:47 |
Well that's pretty cool - much better than Lambert or Jessie J.. |
| AdamMethos 31.08.2012 01:21 |
Went to my first Downhere concert tonight. Marc acts pretty much the same on stage with his band as he does with QE (even using some of the same lines when addressing the audience LOL) so I don't think he's intentionally acting like Freddie. However, he does have a guitar on him the whole time with Downhere, so if he is sliding into Freddie-isms during QE, I'm guessing it's during those songs when he just has a mic and no instruments to hide behind? There was an interview during the QE rehearsal period where he said one of his biggest challenges was learning to front a band with just a mic, and he did catch himself drifting into Freddie-isms but he was trying not to do that. |
| Missreclusive 31.08.2012 08:51 |
AM! Lucky you! When I met Mark at QE I felt him to be very genuine. He plays bass too? I just can't help but feel that Rog and Bri will be very happy to have found him and hopefully will consider recording something new. |
| Pierre 31.08.2012 09:31 |
Bha Marc is Jebus friend no chance for him in Queen. |
| 99jaystang 31.08.2012 10:29 |
Adam you went to the Downhere concert in Cambridge Ontario? Small world I live in Cambridge. Was thinking of going but it was sold out. I'm not that religious, but I hear they are very good musically. |
| AdamMethos 31.08.2012 12:17 |
Yep, I was there! I live in Toronto. I never listened to contemporary Christian music before (at least not on purpose LOL) but found myself liking a lot of Downhere's stuff, musically speaking. Enough to get past the sometimes trite lyrics anyway!
Missreclusive wrote: AM! Lucky you! When I met Mark at QE I felt him to be very genuine.My $0.02 impression based on chatting with Marc for a couple minutes in the autograph line (which was a lot less rushed than the QE autograph lines since there were fewer people)... He is shy but not in the stereotypical stammer/mumble way. He just gets passive with strangers. As long as the other person initiates and leads the conversation, he's very open and friendly and articulate. But if the other person expects Marc to make the first move, they might get a "hi" out of him and then... awkward silence. I think that's why I've seen some people say he's stuck-up or standoffish. Imagine a shy fan seeing Marc chatting away animatedly with other people then when it's their turn to meet him, he suddenly has little to say. Oops. I remember a comment on his FB page around the time the STL video went viral from (I think) a friend of the family. They said it was great to see him coming out of his shell because they remember a party a few years previous where Marc managed not to talk to anyone the entire time. When they asked him why he wasn't mingling more, his reply was something like, I've been quiet for 30 years and I don't plan to change now. The irony! :D |
| Missreclusive 31.08.2012 14:53 |
Shy too :-) |
| DLCVinnuendo 31.08.2012 16:53 |
Is this it a beggining of another Queen +?? |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 31.08.2012 18:00 |
Great news! Jeff Scott Soto also deserves his spot and I hope for that. IMHO Jeff is THE one for this spot. In fact, during the 2 QE gigs I saw, he was the only capable of rocking. And, boy, did he rock. Cheers, Ogre- |
| YAFF 31.08.2012 19:39 |
winterspelt wrote: Im usually happy when the Brian and Roger play with another people, but I kind of feel very wrong that they will play with a Freddie imitator... While I do accept the fact that Martel can sing (I saw QE live) I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel.A Freddie sound-a-like is a new low. I frickin' hate Roger & Brian anyway. |
| Man from Zanzibar 31.08.2012 19:44 |
YAFF wrote:Mini-tour with faaaabulous pop reality show star wasn't the new low then? Okay. It's not Queen anyways, it's Queen+ (read: Brian & Roger's Legacy Band).winterspelt wrote: Im usually happy when the Brian and Roger play with another people, but I kind of feel very wrong that they will play with a Freddie imitator... While I do accept the fact that Martel can sing (I saw QE live) I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel.A Freddie sound-a-like is a new low. I frickin' hate Roger & Brian anyway. |
| people on streets 31.08.2012 20:11 |
Better than Adam Lambert Still... no Paul Rodgers. |
| AlexRocks 31.08.2012 22:45 |
YESSS!!! Shouldn't at least some other members of the Queen Extravaganza join too?! |
| Another Roger (re) 01.09.2012 01:37 |
This will be fantastic compared with Adam Lambert. He was shockingly bad! Will this concert have a good stage set-up? |
| Man from Zanzibar 01.09.2012 02:32 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: This will be fantastic compared with Adam Lambert. He was shockingly bad! Will this concert have a good stage set-up?I'm now more concerned about this event not being shot on video properly. I'd like to see at least some footage published online, especially if it's one-time thing with Q+ and MM (which it probably is, for obvious reasons stated by posters above). Still very interested. |
| cmsdrums 01.09.2012 03:55 |
I can't believe it isn't a 'test run' for something later down the line. Otherwise why go to the expense and effort of flying him over to the uk for a short set when there's plenty of others more easily available? |
| Missreclusive 01.09.2012 09:31 |
Maybe you're right about the test run however, they have the money to fly him there for a short set and in all the WORLD he is the obvious choice. Even Brian said it was as though he was sent from above...also, Roger saying it took him back ...the sound...as though Freddie were in the room. |
| AlexRocks 01.09.2012 10:34 |
Pictures please. Thank you. Oh I am so thankful that this is happening!!! |
| AdamMethos 01.09.2012 11:03 |
They could also have flown him over as some kind of advance promo for QE if they plan on taking QE to Europe next year. I did ask Marc what his plans for 2013 are and he said he didn't know yet other than doing some work on a solo album. (Of his other band members, one already got a new job and the other two haven't yet decided what kind of work they want to do.) He did put out a solo single in April on Amazon/iTunes then pulled it in July because there's nothing going on with it right now, he said. I did a quickie search for any footage from last year's FFAD benefit at the Savoy. There's no concert footage at all. There are some still pictures but very few of the actual concert; most are of the celebs arriving at the venue. So unfortunately, I think it's unlikely we'll get any amateur footage of the concert, and unlikely QPL will release any footage if they film the concert themselves. Hope I'm wrong though. :-( Here's info on last year's concert: link |
| pipijolk 01.09.2012 11:08 |
Filming the event, or even streaming the event on their website might be another way for them to raise money for FFaD, people could donate a certain amount for access to the video stream or for a DVD package of the show's highlights. |
| AdamMethos 01.09.2012 11:48 |
I remember seeing on QOL that they actually considered streaming one of the Q+AL Hammersmith concerts and charging for access, but nothing came of it. Since the $$$ they could have made from AL fans wasn't enough impetus to do it, I can't see them having any motivation to do it for this. :-( |
| the dude 1366 01.09.2012 11:50 |
We have to forgive Marc for singing that telepathic surrendering and sucking up to an imaginary friend music. After all, we forgave Freddie for Delilah. It's only fair. |
| Missreclusive 01.09.2012 12:46 |
It never hurts to write to Brian or Roger and do a request. It's a great idea to video the Savoy or at least highlights and offer the dvd to fans and of course for a price with proceeds going to the cause. Someone write and ask! Would you write on Brians website? I can do it. |
| john bodega 01.09.2012 14:10 |
"I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel" This is a joke, right? He didn't run around in a yellow jacket, he didn't do the mic stand thing - I swear to Christ, some people on this forum must be drinking fuckin' ethanol or something. I've never seen such a case of someone being punished for being too good at his job, hahaha. |
| AlexRocks 01.09.2012 16:33 |
I don't think he should be coming out with a solo l.p. at this time. Joining Queen for a tour sounds right though. I am just saying. |
| Missreclusive 01.09.2012 21:16 |
LOL@Zebonka. How to disagree with the obvious? ethanol..lol. So true Z. Couldn't agree with you more. |
| AdamMethos 01.09.2012 22:52 |
AlexRocks wrote: I don't think he should be coming out with a solo l.p. at this time. Joining Queen for a tour sounds right though. I am just saying.I think he started the solo stuff before getting swept up in the whole QE thing. When I was asking him about it, his demeanor wasn't like "I am SO TOTALLY putting out a solo album next year!" It was more like "I guess I can work on my solo album next year..." But he doesn't seem to be an overtly excitable guy, so maybe he's more enthusiastic about it on the inside LOL. |
| winterspelt 02.09.2012 01:24 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel" This is a joke, right? He didn't run around in a yellow jacket, he didn't do the mic stand thing - I swear to Christ, some people on this forum must be drinking fuckin' ethanol or something. I've never seen such a case of someone being punished for being too good at his job, hahaha.So, a yellow jacket and a mic stand its all Marc Martel needs to imitate Freddie? Let's see... It doesnt matter if Marc wears (or not) a yellow jacket, a superman tshirt etc... Marc Martel sings all the songs note by note, trying to do (with certain amounts of success most of the times) a vibrato close to Freddie, using the same notes Freddie used etc, even when he (Martel) can use his own vibrato (which is different than the one he use in QE) and he can even try to change some notes, but no, he imitates Freddie using Freddie's vibrato, notes etc, even when its not his style. When someone changes his/her style to fit someone else's, he/she becomes an imitator, perhaps not the kind of imitator of another bands but still imitator, which is different from someone who plays a cover as a tribute. You can see it in the QE guitar players: They play the songs but at the same time they are using their own personal style while playing: They are not Brian imitators. Im not interested in being part of an internet ad hominen attack, something that it appears is very popular all over the net (and used a lot by a few members in this forum as well) but the "I swear to Christ, some people on this forum must be drinking fuckin' ethanol or something" quote is totally irrelevant to my previous post. You may or may not agree with me, but ad hominen arguments are pretty much useless. |
| qz08927 02.09.2012 01:58 |
"He didn't run around in a yellow jacket, he didn't do the mic stand thing " IMO He should have. THIS IS THE BEGINNING NEXT TIM RICE |
| qz08927 02.09.2012 02:06 |
YAFF wrote:Marc can sing like Freddie alreadywinterspelt wrote: Im usually happy when the Brian and Roger play with another people, but I kind of feel very wrong that they will play with a Freddie imitator... While I do accept the fact that Martel can sing (I saw QE live) I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel.A Freddie sound-a-like is a new low. I frickin' hate Roger & Brian anyway. So dont worry cos everythings allright sacha baron cohen is learning to sing like Freddie concentrate on that thought and expend some internet energy on that thought. Buit dont let it worry you. Remember Jamie Fox, he turned himself into a black man to play Ray Charles, so have hope, cos nothing is impossible. |
| AdamMethos 02.09.2012 02:07 |
Double post. Bleh. |
| AdamMethos 02.09.2012 02:07 |
winterspelt wrote: Marc Martel sings all the songs note by note, trying to do (with certain amounts of success most of the times) a vibrato close to Freddie, using the same notes Freddie used etc, even when he (Martel) can use his own vibrato (which is different than the one he use in QE) and he can even try to change some notes, but no, he imitates Freddie using Freddie's vibrato, notes etc, even when its not his style. When someone changes his/her style to fit someone else's, he/she becomes an imitator, perhaps not the kind of imitator of another bands but still imitator, which is different from someone who plays a cover as a tribute.Y'know, maybe Roger directed him to sing exactly like Freddie? The other QE singers also sing the album versions on almost all of the songs but it's just not as noticeable because their voices sound nothing like Freddie's. Someone did a comparison of the QE and Queen versions of Don't Stop Me Now and even the girl in QE is singing the song note-for-note and inflection-by-inflection just like Freddie: link QE's version of Love Of My Life has a very different arrangement from how Queen did it on the album and in concerts. And Marc's performance of it doesn't match any performance of Freddie's that I could find. I don't think that's a coincidence. Somebody To Love is the other song that had some big changes done to it for QE and Marc sung that somewhat differently than Freddie at the beginning of the QE tour and waaaaay differently than Freddie by the end of the QE tour. And here he is singing it this past Thursday with his own band -- definitely not a Freddie-mimicking performance! link |
| Tarabostes 02.09.2012 05:04 |
AdamMethos Civil reply for civil reply, MM is not bad, especially when he sings Nessun Dorma, an aria which I suspect he couldn't sing without professional advice and help.The only thing that separates us is whom we prefer as Queen vocalist, a controversial guest singer or a guest singer endowed with the ability to mimic voices, as he himself said. Or are we worlds apart? |
| Missreclusive 02.09.2012 08:32 |
MM is not only "not bad" ...he is terrific! I seriously think there is something wrong with you naysayers hearing. Along comes the absolute perfect dude to sing Queen legacy, perfect in so many ways. Ditto again on Zebonkas comment both here and on the other thread. Marc Martel deserves to sing with them, he has the talent and has earned it. How many of you could do it? |
| Tarabostes 02.09.2012 09:34 |
Missreclusive Yeah, something is definitely wrong, we have personal preferences, different taste, expectations, interests, lives, cosmos...and parts beyond... . I suppose the question in the end doesn't expect an answer! |
| pipijolk 02.09.2012 10:29 |
Missreclusive wrote: MM is not only "not bad" ...he is terrific! I seriously think there is something wrong with you naysayers hearing. Along comes the absolute perfect dude to sing Queen legacy, perfect in so many ways. Ditto again on Zebonkas comment both here and on the other thread. Marc Martel deserves to sing with them, he has the talent and has earned it. How many of you could do it? Yeah, Miss R, I understand all the personal preference opinions and such, most QE concert goers have given the show a resounding stamp of approval per the listed reviews at Ticketmaster and Live Nation. Personal tastes, Marc has the voice I want to hear singing the songs, in a live setting. I want to close my eyes and be able to almost have the feeling that I am immersed in a 1970s Queen gig. I think Marc's voice fits the songs more than adequately, compared to say AL. Now we can all split hairs about what "adequately" means or what "almost" means, but for me, I don't see any downside to Marc performing with Brian and Roger, and I don't know how some get so worked up about it to the point where they're steaming with a boiling rage. As far as Marc hitting the same notes, I think that was the point, as they explained during the show, Roger wants to recreate the studio sound of Queen on stage, something they never were able to accomplish back in the early days. It makes sense to start off with the studio rendition and perhaps then, as they become more experienced and comfortable with the music, add in a little personal flair. |
| Missreclusive 02.09.2012 11:30 |
Pipijolk You are dead on. I too want to do as I did watching QE, close my eyes and feel surrounded and immersed in that lovely sound we all miss.. live! It was such an awesome experience. AL offended me, the way he sounded singing songs I love, then add the visual assault. To me Marc is so balanced and when I watch him I get the feeling he loves the songs and is so wanting to express that to his audience. I loved watching his latest STL that Adam posted, a perfect example of Marc adding his own flair to it with a lot of feeling but keeping with the songs integrity. I want to hear him do so so much more of the back catalogue, a dream come true for me. Thank you Z and Pipi and Adam for expressing in the thread what I think, you guys do it far better than I do! |
| AlexRocks 02.09.2012 12:18 |
AdamMethos that was funny. Lol. |
| AdamMethos 02.09.2012 15:26 |
Tarabostes wrote: Civil reply for civil reply, MM is not bad, especially when he sings Nessun Dorma, an aria which I suspect he couldn't sing without professional advice and help.The only thing that separates us is whom we prefer as Queen vocalist, a controversial guest singer or a guest singer endowed with the ability to mimic voices, as he himself said. Or are we worlds apart?Nope, I agree with you. After a certain minimum level of singing ability, I think it's all just personal preference whether someone prefers one singer over another. Being the best technical singer with the biggest range, etc., doesn't mean squat to anyone except a small cadre of vocal experts who like to dissect singing to the Nth degree. It's like those scifi nerd battles over which is better, Star Trek or Star Wars. People who are firmly in one camp or the other will NEVER be swayed. Many people like both. Others hate both. Then there are those who say the new Battlestar Galactica beats both of them. Period. LOL. I like MM because I love the Queen sound and his voice takes me Freddie-land, as others have said. If I go back even futher, what first attracted me to Freddie's voice is that it was so clear and resonant. Many rock singers, especially when they do shouty singing, are hard to understand. Freddie's voice was always clear, no matter what he sang. For example, QE was the first time I heard Stone Cold Crazy. I had NO idea what Jeff Soto was singing and I figured that was just the nature of the song because the lyrics are sung so fast. Then I heard the orignal with Freddie and suddenly knew what the song was about! People call MM a mimic like it's a bad thing. One thing that jumps out as I've been exploring Queen's deeper catalogue is how many different styles of music they did -- and did well. These days, whenever I hear someone say that some song sounds like Queen or sounds Queen-influenced, I want to laugh because I think you can pick any song by any artist and probably find a Queen song that is similar! And it's not just instrumental part of Queen's music that varied widely. Freddie also changed his voice to fit what he was singing. For example, if you take the songs Freddie sang on Sheer Heart Attack, a casual listener probably wouldn't realize that it was the same singer unless they were told in advance and were listening for similarities. I think any singer that wants to tackle the variety in Queen's catalogue needs to have a bit of a chameleon voice. Re Nessun Dorma, MM is self-taught and has never had professional voice lessons or vocal coaching. He said he taught himself opera from watching "Pavarotti Masterclass" videos on YouTube. |
| qz08927 02.09.2012 20:28 |
Missreclusive wrote: MM is not only "not bad" ...he is terrific! I seriously think there is something wrong with you naysayers hearing. Along comes the absolute perfect dude to sing Queen legacy, perfect in so many ways. Ditto again on Zebonkas comment both here and on the other thread. Marc Martel deserves to sing with them, he has the talent and has earned it. How many of you could do it?I agree for Queen's music, Marc Martel is the perfect voice, perhaps the only one for mostof it, maybe less so on some of the rock stuff, but he could apply himself to perfect that style also, he does have the ability. |
| winterspelt 03.09.2012 00:18 |
AdamMethos wrote: Y'know, maybe Roger directed him to sing exactly like Freddie? The other QE singers also sing the album versions on almost all of the songs but it's just not as noticeable because their voices sound nothing like Freddie's. Someone did a comparison of the QE and Queen versions of Don't Stop Me Now and even the girl in QE is singing the song note-for-note and inflection-by-inflection just like Freddie: link QE's version of Love Of My Life has a very different arrangement from how Queen did it on the album and in concerts. And Marc's performance of it doesn't match any performance of Freddie's that I could find. I don't think that's a coincidence. Somebody To Love is the other song that had some big changes done to it for QE and Marc sung that somewhat differently than Freddie at the beginning of the QE tour and waaaaay differently than Freddie by the end of the QE tour. And here he is singing it this past Thursday with his own band -- definitely not a Freddie-mimicking performance! linkIm glad you replied and even posted some links! They are very interesting! I have to admit your points are valid so I think I should reconsider my opinion about Marc Martel...! |
| Tarabostes 03.09.2012 01:24 |
AdamMethos It is a matter of pride to be original, unique, a pioneer in one field or another. It is not for everybody. The chosen ones ,like Freddie Mercury or Jimi Hendrix, are sums of their inheritance, talent, influences, own creativity and imagination who with genius and toil created their own style. But what happens to their disciples, The Who, MM or AL when the Maestro dies? Some choose to follow , to use only the M. ways, others try to find their own way , using what they've learned only as a starting point in a career which may not even resemble the origins. And again , it seems stupid to me to blame somebody for his/her musical taste, it only proves intolerance and an exacerbated ego. I came here, on QZ to defend not to attack. |
| Man from Zanzibar 03.09.2012 02:05 |
This is another video from the same night, you can hear the singing a bit better here and lol at Martel's face during the infamous Guitar Solo performed by himself, haha. link |
| tomchristie22 03.09.2012 06:40 |
I have a friend who likes that band, didn't realise till seeing this thread that Martel's the singer. He seems to spend the first third of that clip tuning the guitar :P |
| AlexRocks 03.09.2012 09:55 |
Holy shit that was amazing!!! I can't believe he was doing all of the guitar himself while singing AND the lead guitar solo?!! What the fuck?! How in the hell?! I've said it before and I've only seen clips of the Queen Extravaganza but Queen have problem. Queen Extravaganza are better than they are! |
| Missreclusive 03.09.2012 09:59 |
Someone please record the performance at the Savoy. |
| Another Roger (re) 03.09.2012 10:17 |
When is the concert tonight? Anyone know where to find the program schedule? :) |
| Man from Zanzibar 03.09.2012 10:33 |
AlexRocks wrote: Holy shit that was amazing!!! I can't believe he was doing all of the guitar himself while singing AND the lead guitar solo?!! What the fuck?! How in the hell?! I've said it before and I've only seen clips of the Queen Extravaganza but Queen have problem. Queen Extravaganza are better than they are!Well, if anything Queen boys wrote and produced all of the goddamn songs after all. QE isn't half bad live, though. I just wish they'd do less "greatest hits" and more not so known ones next time, but that's just me. |
| Man from Zanzibar 03.09.2012 10:36 |
Missreclusive wrote: Someone please record the performance at the Savoy.If it's like past year - fat chance. No one of those healthy wealthy baggers would bother with filming it and I guess there will be no official videos posted online. Damn shame |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 11:02 |
Tarabostes wrote: It is a matter of pride to be original, unique, a pioneer in one field or another. It is not for everybody.True. But being a original or a pioneer in your chosen field isn't the only way to have pride in your work, though that's probably the most legitimate and celebrated way in the world at large. Given MM's background (where what Downhere does is called "music ministry"), I'm guessing that touching people or making a difference in their lives is probably more a matter of pride for him than being the best vocalist/musician. Man from Zanzibar wrote: This is another video from the same night, you can hear the singing a bit better here and lol at Martel's face during the infamous Guitar Solo performed by himself, haha. linkHahaha. Deep in concentration! I think MM is more a rhythm guitarist than a lead guitarist. When Downhere first started covering STL, they were on tour with another band and the guitarist from the other band used to do the guitar part and guitar solo. In the first video I saw of MM playing guitar in STL (around December I think), the guitar solo started well and... the guitar solo started well. LOL. He improved a lot! He tuned the guitar while singing in a few songs. I've never seen that before but I'm not a huge concert-goer. Is that some freakish talent or fairly common? And why would you need to re-tune that often? He used a capo on some songs -- would that have something to do with it? I haven't seen any schedules for the FFAD concert tonight but I assume it'll be in the evening, so around 8 PM? |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 11:19 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: Well, if anything Queen boys wrote and produced all of the goddamn songs after all. QE isn't half bad live, though. I just wish they'd do less "greatest hits" and more not so known ones next time, but that's just me.Yeah, writing the songs as well, trumps just playing them well! I thought QE struck a good balance between greatest hits and lesser known tracks. If they continue long enough to attract a following (who will go to shows for the overall show itself instead of specifically for Queen hits) they might start to do more obscure stuff. This is the only footage I found of last year's concert, so if we're lucky, there's marginally better than 0% chance that something might sneak out this year... 16 seconds of Brian and Jeff Beck doing WWRY: link 18 seconds of Brian, Roger and Tom Chaplin doing It's a Hard Life: link |
| Missreclusive 03.09.2012 11:49 |
Oops double post. I think someone can video the entire performance! I saw some pictures of last year and there were folks with cameras so apparently it's allowed. |
| Missreclusive 03.09.2012 11:49 |
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| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 16:04 |
One of the commenters on those YouTube vids mentioned recording the concert on his phone. But did he post it on YouTube? No! Selfish git! LOL |
| Another Roger (re) 03.09.2012 16:21 |
AdamMethos wrote: One of the commenters on those YouTube vids mentioned recording the concert on his phone. But did he post it on YouTube? No! Selfish git! LOLHow many people attended this concert? Someone must have recorded something for youtube. Come on! :P |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 16:33 |
@heatworld is tweeting from the Savoy. Guests are still having dinner (late dinner!) so I assume the concert hasn't started yet since there are no tweets about it... |
| Another Roger (re) 03.09.2012 16:38 |
AdamMethos wrote: @heatworld is tweeting from the Savoy. Guests are still having dinner (late dinner!) so I assume the concert hasn't started yet since there are no tweets about it...Isnt that a very late concert on a regular monday? |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 17:01 |
Dessert and auction now. $13K to appear in the Freddie biopic. I guess they HAVE to make it now! Follow hash tag #freddieforaday cuz at least three people are tweeting from the party now. |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 18:06 |
Show started. Tom Jones on stage... |
| notimeforlosers 03.09.2012 18:45 |
The Official Queen page on Facebook has just posted a set list for the event. Barcelona Acapella You're my BEst Friend Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon Life is Real and the ol' hits of always, plus some non-Queen stuff. |
| notimeforlosers 03.09.2012 18:47 |
Marc Martel is gonna sing CLTCL, LOASA and STL. |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 19:14 |
I saw that. Great little set for Marc! |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 20:23 |
Marc just tweeted: Fun night @ #FFAD here in London tonight. Met some interesting peeps for REAL! The hilight would have to be meeting Freddie's mum. Pictures! I want pictures! And video! :D |
| Missreclusive 03.09.2012 20:36 |
Yeah, I read that a while ago and wondered if you went to sleep!? lol, j/k...and AM, I appreciate your posting everything you find. Thank you. Puhleeze find a vid of the performance. |
| brunogorski 03.09.2012 20:52 |
:D |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 21:02 |
I was at a family BBQ all day and actually had to spend some time conversing with relatives in between checking the web on my phone for FFAD stuff. ;-) |
| Missreclusive 03.09.2012 21:11 |
Ok A.M. I forgive ya :-) I actually had to work today. I did see the 11 pictures posted on Queen's FB. A couple of guys with their behinds hangin out, heh. I wonder how Marc felt being among the bizarre costumes? If we never get a video of the performance I am going to feel like I truely missed out. Surely someone will post one on youtube over the next few days. |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 22:06 |
Some (teeny) pics of Marc at the event. (See pages 1-3.) link |
| Missreclusive 03.09.2012 22:25 |
That's great! Cant wait to see what the crowd thought, bet he blew them away. I know someone must have taken a video. I'm a broken record here and anxious to hear/see! Gawd, how did I ever get so obsessed??? You know, I can't say much of anything about my love for Queen to those in my life...I get a distinct eye roll. LOL, ah well... Maybe I need a Queen Anonymous group, makes a note to self to consider starting one. |
| qz08927 03.09.2012 22:31 |
where is the you tube link? |
| Missreclusive 03.09.2012 22:34 |
Was Roger there? Cant tell from the tiny pictures, he isn't mentioned. NM, I saw his pic on page 1. Guess I'm tired. So far no youtube. No, not holding my breath for a Youtube, just seriously hoping for one! Thot I'd "edit" my post in answer :-) thereby not taking up more thread. |
| AdamMethos 03.09.2012 22:38 |
Brian has a clearer pic of the set list on his site: link Looks like Marc didn't perform Brian or Roger, if I'm reading it right. We'll have to wait for more pics to see! I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for YouTube! Though I would be absolutely ecstatic to be proven wrong! ;-) |
| tomchristie22 04.09.2012 01:03 |
Of course they only play a setlist like this for a very restricted audience. Not to say they owe us anything, but they've demonstrated they can come up with better setlists than the generic ones they continue to play. |
| Man from Zanzibar 04.09.2012 02:32 |
AdamMethos wrote: Some (teeny) pics of Marc at the event. (See pages 1-3.) linkEven the frikken pics are unavailable to download. Ugghh, to hell with that |
| Missreclusive 04.09.2012 07:26 |
Interviews at FFAD Savoy but no vid of MM yet link |
| queenUSA 04.09.2012 07:55 |
Don't get excited at this link. No Marc stuff. Just a general story of the night with a few pics. Again no Marc. Hope this link works. If not, sorry. link |
| AdamMethos 04.09.2012 07:59 |
The QOL message board admin posted this: "Marc was superb, he really nailed it. Had a great chat with him too, such a genuine guy and spoke of STL from the stage as 'the song that literally changed my life'." |
| Man from Zanzibar 04.09.2012 08:16 |
AdamMethos wrote: The QOL message board admin posted this: "Marc was superb, he really nailed it. Had a great chat with him too, such a genuine guy and spoke of STL from the stage as 'the song that literally changed my life'."That's really interesting, but I'd appreciate it way more if he'd posted video instead, so we could witness how superb Marc really was that night, if you know what I mean, lol. Somebody find me Someone with camcorder Or just with iPhone Whatever Just find me some videooooo |
| Another Roger (re) 04.09.2012 08:30 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote:I am afraid we wont see any video of this. Should have surfaced by now. Unless somebody that recorded went to work, and will upload tonight.AdamMethos wrote: The QOL message board admin posted this: "Marc was superb, he really nailed it. Had a great chat with him too, such a genuine guy and spoke of STL from the stage as 'the song that literally changed my life'."That's really interesting, but I'd appreciate it way more if he'd posted video instead, so we could witness how superb Marc really was that night, if you know what I mean, lol. Somebody find me Someone with camcorder Or just with iPhone Whatever Just find me some videooooo |
| AdamMethos 04.09.2012 08:59 |
No pics or vids but Marc gets a mention: link |
| AdamMethos 04.09.2012 18:07 |
Some more pics. Watermarked but decent sized! link |
| Missreclusive 04.09.2012 18:30 |
Thanks, those are really good pics however, am still bummed that there's no video. |
| AdamMethos 04.09.2012 18:53 |
Yeah. However, last year the event was on Sept 5 and the two short YouTube clips didn't get posted till Sept 30 and Oct 6. So maybe something will turn up eventually... |
| Man from Zanzibar 05.09.2012 01:12 |
Apparently, Brian refused to perform with Marc "out of respect to Freddie". What a joke and I'm actually laughing here, man. After that pathetic assclown named Adam Lambert, after allowing "pop idols" to mock Queen's stuff around and even fucking Freddie Angry Bird, among other offensive things we're still talking respect? I know Jim claims, that Freddie told him to never made him look boring, and boy he succeed in this. Although, If performing with actually talented singer and musician, that just happen to sound and look a bit like Mercury isn't paying huge deal of respect to the Queen legacy sound and to Frederick, I don't know what is. Okay, Bri. Whatever you say. |
| Fone Bone 05.09.2012 04:04 |
If this quote is legit: Five / Pepsi Ad / Angry Bird / reality TV runner-up Adam Lambert / Jessie J / Claiming songwriting credits on Freddie songs / blatantly under-representing Freddie songs on Queen+ projects = respectful Performing with a guy who can deliver tasteful renditions of Queen songs = disrespectful Wow, time to take a vacation to take care and stereoscopic pics of space badgers, Dr Bri |
| john bodega 05.09.2012 06:14 |
... please tell me that's a joke? Fuck, vindication has a sweet taste. I knew there was a culture of punishing people who do their job a little too well, but this is on a whole new level of bullshit. 'Respect' my arse. Forget Adam Lambert - if even that fucking arse-muppet X-Factor contestant who joined them for WWRY at the first Q+AL gets a shot at playing with Brian, then why the FUCK not Marc Martel? I've had a lot of love and respect for Brian - even when I don't agree with him, I can usually accept what he's doing - but this is just bonkers. Please tell me that quote is a joke. |
| john bodega 05.09.2012 06:15 |
Fuck it. Screw Brian. |
| brunogorski 05.09.2012 06:23 |
Brian is getting old... And mad. oO |
| Missreclusive 05.09.2012 06:54 |
Where is the quote? Man from Zanzibar...where did you read that? |
| tomchristie22 05.09.2012 07:58 |
Yeah, if that quote's real I have to agree.. I haven't normally felt any personal annoyance at Brian even if I didn't agree with everything.. But this is just a bit stupid, to put it lightly. |
| unrauv1 05.09.2012 08:10 |
Wow thats such a disappointment, that really shows very little repect for Marc Martel. If I were Marc I would really start to wonder if this whole thing is a waste of time. If he was going to do that to Marc why invite him in the first place. Show no class at all!! Oh and remember QE absolutely owned the stage and set the bar very high, Q+AL was not so much. Who knowns what goes on in his mind. If I were Roger I would have been very angry inside its a little bit of a stub to what Roger is doing. |
| AdamMethos 05.09.2012 08:16 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: Apparently, Brian refused to perform with Marc "out of respect to Freddie".What's the source for that? I'm not doubting you, just want to see Brian's exact words and context. You're the second person I've seen mention that. The other person said she read it in an online article about the event, but she hasn't been able to re-find it. And did Roger play with Marc (or anyone else) that evening? I've been trying to find pics of Roger on drums with anyone, but no luck so far. I remember reading/seeing an interview (not sure if it was with Brian or someone else talking about him) saying that when Roger came up with the tribute band idea, Brian wanted to get an orchestra, choir, the works and put on an actual tribute SHOW. But Roger's concept for it was more like "what if Queen were a young band today?" and he wanted QE to have a similar makeup to Queen, except allowing for a few more people in order to reproduce the harmonies on the albums. Anyway, apparently Brian tried to sway Roger but Roger wouldn't budge. Would this be Brian being bent out of shape over not getting his way? Just throwing it out there... |
| Fone Bone 05.09.2012 08:31 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Forget Adam Lambert - if even that fucking arse-muppet X-Factor contestant who joined them for WWRY at the first Q+AL gets a shot at playing with Brian, then why the FUCK not Marc Martel?Well put Zebonka I had forgotten about this infamy in Ukraine o_O |
| BelfastQueenFan 05.09.2012 08:38 |
Its jealousy. Brian doesn't want to have his STUPID Lambert idea shown up as the farce it is. Also Marc Martel would relegate Brian back to being "just the guitarist". Lets be honest people, Brian loves being the head of Queen which he has been since Freddie died. |
| Missreclusive 05.09.2012 08:41 |
If true, Im not inclined to buy the "respect for Freddie" bit. I think its far more and born out of jealousy. Its all so frustrating and wrong! I did notice Rogers absence and wondered. I wish we knew the truth. |
| unrauv1 05.09.2012 08:44 |
Don't you just love rock and roll. QE made the Q+AL look a little pedestian to be honest. Oh well life goes on. |
| AlexRocks 05.09.2012 09:25 |
O.k. Good news. This is fine. As loooong as they tour with Marc Martel and release live stuff and lead up to a new studio l.p. in the next year or two. With that said I ALSO don't care if they record and tour with both Adam Lambert and Lady Ga Ga and try different things out...as long as they tour with Marc Martel and record with him. |
| Missreclusive 05.09.2012 10:26 |
Haven't seen quote yet, therefore it's all speculation |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2012 10:30 |
I'm interested to see Brian and Kerry Ellis appearing alongside Tom Jones, after Brian slagging off The Voice show with a 'who do they think they are' type rant when Kerry Ellis didn't make it past the heat stages! |
| cmsdrums 05.09.2012 11:00 |
And if Brian's quote is true, does that mean he was being purposely disrespectful to Freddie when he happily performed with Martel (to increase his bank balance rather than for charity) on American Idol? If you did day it Brian, it's a bit bloody late to use that as an excuse! |
| Another Roger (re) 05.09.2012 11:24 |
cmsdrums wrote: And if Brian's quote is true, does that mean he was being purposely disrespectful to Freddie when he happily performed with Martel (to increase his bank balance rather than for charity) on American Idol? If you did day it Brian, it's a bit bloody late to use that as an excuse!Thinking of it now. When Brian came on stage at American Idol Martel sat down by the piano and let Jeff and Yvan sing. Coinsidence? |
| The Real Wizard 05.09.2012 11:37 |
I know all the Brian bashers are frothing at the mouth, but let's wait for an actual quote before jumping to pre-conceived conclusions. |
| AdamMethos 05.09.2012 11:58 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: Thinking of it now. When Brian came on stage at American Idol Martel sat down by the piano and let Jeff and Yvan sing. Coinsidence?Coincidence. On the QE tour, he also goes to the piano when the group busts into the It's Late ending (where Jeff & Yvan sing), so that's just how the song is staged. |
| Holly2003 05.09.2012 11:59 |
Perhaps Brian thinks Martel is too close to being a replacement for Fred as Martel plays in a tribute band whereas all the other collaborations have been "Queen plus" i.e. the lead singer is not replacing Fred. It's a fine and slightly bizarre distinction though and it's also very disappointing as Martel is about as good as I've heard singing Queen songs post-Fred.Maybe when the Queen Extravaganza is finished Brian might have a change of heart. To be honest though, I'm almost past caring. |
| john bodega 05.09.2012 12:34 |
"I know all the Brian bashers are frothing at the mouth" *shrug* I'm as big a Brian fan as they come, but I would definitely find it to be a dick move for him to shaft Martel by not performing with him. The kid's earned it. I would like to see this supposed quote of Brian's, though. I haven't actually seen him mention any of this anywhere. The whole thing bugs me though. There's almost an 'open mic night' approach to the Q+AL shows - not only did they have a shite lead singer, but they kept having these very below par guest singers coming on (the X-Factor guy? Was I the only one who was wondering if he was hallucinating during that?). Time for Brian to swallow his pride and give Marc a shot. |
| unrauv1 05.09.2012 12:58 |
I have a feeling you will not find the quote, and I am sure Brian will not own to it. Queen is his and Rogers gig, I am sure they didn't expect Extravaganza to be as good as it is or to find someone who can really channel Freddie so effortlessly. Lets just hope QE will continue and Marc can get some traction for his own career. Maybe its just too emotionally difficult for Brian to be on a stage and hear what we hear. He would be playing and thinking of his friend Freddie and then look and see Marc. Songs like LOML would be impossible for Brian to do with Marc I think. |
| Missreclusive 05.09.2012 14:00 |
I continue to have very mixed emotions with regard to all of it. I don't know Brian personally so can't say what he feels/thinks. One can't help but wish for and be excited about the possibility of Q + MM. I'm not sure why they wouldn't want to recreate the sound as close to original as possible, makes zero sense to me. Marc Martel seems to really respect the music along with that he would respect Brian and Roger and not upstage them. He ISN'T Freddie, can never be, doesn't try to impersonate. Z said it, he really has earned a tour with them. |
| kosimodo 05.09.2012 14:25 |
the man from zanzibar is trolling.... |
| brunogorski 05.09.2012 18:35 |
Oh, Jesus. I already told my girlfriend that Brian said that. Now I have to tell her that was just someone trolling? :| |
| Missreclusive 05.09.2012 21:10 |
Found this, not a mention of Marc nor is Roger seen..? link |
| john bodega 05.09.2012 21:17 |
"the man from zanzibar is trolling" With or without the quote, I still think a golden opportunity is being pissed down the drain by not doing some serious gigs with Martel. |
| Missreclusive 05.09.2012 21:39 |
As far as I can see, they completely disrespect Marc and with zero reason. He is actually too good for them. If I were any more frustrated about it I'd probably need therapy! lol |
| tomchristie22 06.09.2012 02:07 |
Sadly, it's probably a genuine concern for Brian - QE has proven to be a much more entertaining band than recent incarnations of Queen. |
| qz08927 06.09.2012 02:51 |
I really don't understand Brian's logic. Unless he feels Roger's QE project is just another bad Queen tribute band not worthy of Freddie and so like all the other below par ones spoiling Queen'sand Freddie's Musical legacy- BECAUSE*** This was THE one MAIN reason Roger gave for wanting to form QE in the first place! to have Queen's music played the way it should be. Properly and with their oversight so it does not spoil their musical legacy. And the very concept of Freddie for a day, contradicts Brian's reasoning in the first place! for it consists of people donning pretend mustaches play acting that they are Freddie Mercury. So i really think that Brian should not let what is bothering his conscience bother him. For plainly and on the contrary , Marc singing Queen with Queen honors Freddie! More than anything, for his voice is truly wonderful and worthy of Freddie's songs. |
| inu-liger 06.09.2012 02:56 |
Was Roger even present at all at the Savoy?? |
| qz08927 06.09.2012 03:02 |
inu-liger wrote: Was Roger even present at all at the Savoy??yes i saw pics of him - not on stage though, but he was there. |
| AdamMethos 06.09.2012 07:58 |
inu-liger wrote: Was Roger even present at all at the Savoy??He's on the setlist as introducing Madeleine Bell (the performer on before Marc) and there is a photo of him on stage addressing the audience. Haven't found any pics of him on drums though, so I don't think he played. |
| winterspelt 06.09.2012 13:43 |
I havent found anything about that quote, so perhaps it was just a misunderstood or perhaps the guy who posted it was just trolling... I find interesting that some people are on Marc Martel's side even when we dont know what happened... Perhaps Marc was mistaken and he was going to play in the same event as Brian and Roger instead of playing with them, perhaps Marc was going to play with Brian and Roger AND other people (something like the "WATC" on the Freddie tribute) etc etc... Also, perhaps Marc, Brian and Roger were supposed to play but they ran out of time and rehearsals werent going OK (something like that happened to Toni Iommi when he played in the FM tribute) etc etc... There are many possible scenarios and not all of them are bad, so, I think that, until we get some confirmation about what happened, we just cant assume that Brian and/or Roger were disrespectful to Marc Martel... |
| Missreclusive 06.09.2012 14:13 |
@winterspelt, true |
| brunogorski 09.09.2012 18:57 |
Any news? Photos, videos, anything? :/ |
| YAFF 09.09.2012 23:44 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "the man from zanzibar is trolling" With or without the quote, I still think a golden opportunity is being pissed down the drain by not doing some serious gigs with Martel.You are out of your frickin mind. It's time for Marc Martel to go away and do his own thing instead of becoming famous for being a sound-a-like of a superior singer and musical genius. Martel hasn't earned squat. QE was a farce and I hope that Brian quote IS true. Good for Brian! They will never tour or record with Martel. I'd be willing to wager a large sum. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. |
| YAFF 09.09.2012 23:46 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I know all the Brian bashers are frothing at the mouth, but let's wait for an actual quote before jumping to pre-conceived conclusions.no prob. I'm a Roger basher. Total wanker and hypocrite. |
| john bodega 10.09.2012 00:42 |
What a moron. You're conflating a lot of ideas in your rather basic and thoughtless dismissal. Did I ever say he should record an album with the guys? Nope. There's just an opportunity for some good, respectable gigs here. It'd certainly make up for the fuckin' mess they made with Lambert. But I might as well be having this conversation with a sponge. |
| AdamMethos 10.09.2012 08:00 |
brunogorski wrote: Any news? Photos, videos, anything? :/Still no video but lotsa pics. Here are some more (MM is on page 1 & 2): link I think it's safe to say Roger didn't play drums at the event at all. |
| YAFF 10.09.2012 10:08 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It'd certainly make up for the fuckin' mess they made with Lambert. But I might as well be having this conversation with a sponge.Well you do probably need the sponge since you are a drooling idiot |
| Missreclusive 10.09.2012 10:18 |
AdamMethos wrote:Wonders why? Conflict?brunogorski wrote: Any news? Photos, videos, anything? :/Still no video but lotsa pics. Here are some more (MM is on page 1 & 2): link I think it's safe to say Roger didn't play drums at the event at all. |
| YAFF 10.09.2012 10:28 |
Zebonka12 wrote: What a moron. You're conflating a lot of ideas in your rather basic and thoughtless dismissal. Did I ever say he should record an album with the guys?Don't worry I started a whole new thread that isn't so "basic and thoughtless". Of course to you anything that doesn't align with your eschewed views you'll bash anyway. |
| john bodega 11.09.2012 05:56 |
Your other thread wasn't a huge improvement, but I can see now which wires are crossed. Your response seems to think I want Martel to be some sort of serious addition to the group, or Freddie-replacement. Not so. I just think, with the revolving-door attitude that Brian seems to have about guest singers, that Martel is far more qualified than some of the utter louts that have been given a shot. That's all. |
| AlexRocks 11.09.2012 10:17 |
What in the hell did Brian May say for Christ's sake?! Jesus! Other than that I look forward to Marc Martel becoming the permanent lead singer to Queen touring and doing new studio l.p.s!!! He has earned it!!! I even think maybe some other members of Queen Extravaganza should join permanently. You all just can't spell "Extravaganza" that's all! |
| Missreclusive 11.09.2012 13:27 |
@AdamMethos Found any new news of MM or articles with regard to his performance? Seems it hardly made a blip on the radar..sadly. Wonders when QE will post new dates? Asking you because you seem to find schtuff on tha net. |
| AdamMethos 11.09.2012 20:10 |
Nope. Nothing new. No blip on the radar. Not really surprising since the Savoy was a celebrity event, not for fans or the general public. The reporting on it was mainly about Fergie & Eugenie (and what they wore!) and Tom Jones. Nothing new about QE dates either other than they could be posted any day now. They announced dates for the first tour two months before the tour started. If they follow the same pattern and the next tour is starting mid-November, then they should announce something mid-September. Getting into more speculative territory, something's up with the QE vocalists... JSS announced that he's touring with the Trans Siberian Orchestra from mid-November through December so it doesn't look like he will be QE on the next tour. Strange because in an interview in June he talked about how QE is a dream job; that he asked Roger to be a part of it; and that he's willing to re-arrange his other commitments (like touring his solo album) to be a part of QE. So did he change his mind or is Roger cutting QE vocalists for budget or other reasons? Last week American Idol fansite Vote For The Worst posted spoilers for the upcoming X-Factor season and mentioned that Jennifer Espinoza auditioned but didn't make it. (They speculated she might have been discounted because she already appeared on Idol.) Then Jennifer teased fans that they should watch the X-Factor premiere this Wednesday and Thursday, so it looks like her audition will be aired. If Jennifer made it through auditions, would X-Factor commitments have conflicted with QE? Jennifer's mom made a comment on Facebook that people who didn't catch the first QE tour really missed out because that was the only time those four vocalists would sing together. So was she referring to JSS leaving or is Jennifer gone too? I haven't heard anything about Yvan. But if Roger is cutting vocalists, it's hard to believe that Jeff or Jennifer would go before Yvan since Yvan is most similar to Marc in vocal range and you'd think he'd want more diversity among the lead vocalists not less. |
| cjpew 11.09.2012 20:45 |
AM - I suspect the TSO gig is probably more lucrative for Jeff (can't blame him for that), plus it's a brand new show for them this year so can't blame him for wanting to be a part of it. If you haven't seen their show - go if you have the opportunity !!! (nothing close for me this year) I saw it the first year Jeff joined the cast and it's amazing (and he was too :)) |
| Missreclusive 11.09.2012 22:39 |
@AdamM - Well, hmmmm, maybe what you suggest is true or maybe QE is done. I'm sure glad I got to experience it the first time around. Like you, as for vocalists leaving or being cut, I think Yvan should be the one to go, he just didn't contribute much imo. I just can not imagine Roger ending QE, I feel it would grow increasingly more popular with more exposure. (between you and me if Brian has any influence, I think he's a brat!) I cant help but think something was up with the FFAD deal, Roger not playing...? What was that? Are he and Brian interacting at the function? I haven't had time to view all the pics. lol...I'm not a very good Sherlock H. |
| AdamMethos 11.09.2012 23:43 |
cjpew, interesting about TSO! The only thing I know about how much QE pays is that during the QE auditions one of the (bitter) Queen tribute band members who didn't make the second round made a comment that the non-fulltime musicians auditioning were foolish to be potentially quitting their jobs just to go on tour for a year and what will they do after the year is up? And one of the people who did make the second round responded with something like adequate compensation is not an issue. I tried to find the exact comment on YouTube, but YouTube had a makeover just after the contest was over and a lot of the old comments went byebye. Missreclusive, I did say speculative territory! This is waaaaaay speculative... but all of the QE musicians can sing. Roger couldn't be sure they could do Queen's multi-layered harmonies until QE rehearsals started. I'm wondering if he's deciding to go with less leads and have the musicians carry the backup vocals? I think there's going to be at least one more QE tour because Marc seemed so convinced of it when I spoke to him. He acted like it was common knowledge that there's going to be a fall tour and the only question is what dates. He thought the QE.com website already said something to that effect and when I told him there was nothing on the website, that's when he said that they're currently booking venues and the website should be updated soon. I suppose it's possible that he's WAY out of the loop as to the current status of QE, but I think it's more likely that there's at least a fall tour but beyond that is unknown. |
| AdamMethos 12.09.2012 00:13 |
From the FFAD pics, it seems Brian sat with Tom Jones for dinner. Didn't see any pics of Brian and Roger together but there aren't that many pics of Roger at the event, or of the event in general relative to the amount of guests that attended. Seems the photographers mainly took a few pictures of each performance and concentrated the non-performance pics on the higher profile guests at the event. Brian arguably has a higher profile in the British public than Roger. As for Roger not playing, that's a puzzle. Grasping at straws but maybe he wasn't feeling up to it (ageing is harder on drummers than guitarists?) or didn't have time to attend the rehearsals? I think it's too soon to start inventing conspiracy theories anyway. LOL |
| cmsdrums 12.09.2012 07:31 |
Perhaps Brian and Tom were exchanging haircare tips, or Brian was having a pop at him for not selecting Kerry Ellis at her audition in The Voice |
| AdamMethos 12.09.2012 11:18 |
cmsdrums, hahaha. The articles said that apparently Brian and Tom are good friends. One rumor killed. Vote For The Worst got it wrong. It's Jessica Espinoza (Jennifer's sister)who auditioned for X-Factor, so JSS is the only one who will likely not be back: link |