| mr mason 27.08.2012 12:01 |
How many exist,and did Freddie ever appear in any? |
| GT 27.08.2012 12:32 |
You can buy a DVD compilation of most of the clips the band made for the conventions from the Queen fan club. It was released to celebrate the 25th silver jubilee convention a couple of years ago. It is 60 mins long and includes the earliest messages and songs recorded on tape to the latest videos recorded on camcorder just for FC conventioneers. |
| GT 27.08.2012 12:34 |
And the cover... |
| people on streets 27.08.2012 13:05 |
GT wrote: You can buy a DVD compilation of most of the clips the band made for the conventions from the Queen fan club. It was released to celebrate the 25th silver jubilee convention a couple of years ago. It is 60 mins long and includes the earliest messages and songs recorded on tape to the latest videos recorded on camcorder just for FC conventioneers.where can I buy this? |
| pittrek 27.08.2012 13:14 |
GT wrote: And the cover... Wow, Roger WITHOUT sunglasses ? :-) |
| mr mason 27.08.2012 13:20 |
Does anyone have a copy they wanna TORRENT,OR SELL? |
| GT 27.08.2012 13:31 |
Why don't you get a copy from the fan club itself? |
| MadTheSwine73 27.08.2012 16:56 |
GT wrote: Why don't you get a copy from the fan club itself?Where? I went to the merchandise section, and I didn't see it. Please provide us with a link. |
| people on streets 27.08.2012 18:35 |
link |
| GT 28.08.2012 00:22 |
You can write to Jacky here: qfc@queenworld.com Or see the fan club website here: link |
| Micrówave 28.08.2012 10:15 |
The only thing available on the Queenworld website are tickets to next year's convention and a link to buy a framed Greatest Hits 1, 2, and 3 (regular CDs) for over $150.00!!!! So is there a link to buy the video? Is it PAL? Is it $150.00, too? That website is pretty horrible. Very poorly written. I can't believe that anyone would send them $50 bucks for a "membership"!!! Downright embarassing, I'd say. Hopefully the video isn't made/compiled by the same people that operate the website. |
| GT 28.08.2012 11:04 |
Just contact Jacky and ask her, I gave you the email address. The disc is region free so should play on any DVD player. I think it cost £10 when it first came out. The quality of some of the videos were recorded on a camcorder and is not perfect as you would expect. But it is a good record of what the band were up to over the years and from their own mouths. I don't have anything to do with the website by the way...lol. |
| aber 28.08.2012 13:29 |
freddiemercury.com is much worse |
| tero! 48531 28.08.2012 15:05 |
I don't mean to sound unnecesessarily negative again, but is this dvd an official release approved by Queen Productions? I somehow doubt the same people who are unwilling to release classic concerts in standard definition would be happy with camcorder material from the conventions. It's also a bit suspicious if it's only for sale under the counter. :/ So, basically this is really just a glorified bootleg and it's okay because (some of) the profits go the the fan club, right? |
| Micrówave 28.08.2012 15:38 |
That's why it's not advertised on the site. So Jacky and the Fan Club is selling a bootleg DVD. And Queen is staunchly against this type of behavior. Any Queen product must be officially released by their label or else a lawsuit would commence against whoever is distributing this. Are Brian, Roger, or John Directors (in any legal way) of the fan club? This just got extremely interesting. Just release Rainbow and I'll stop asking questions. |
| The Real Wizard 28.08.2012 15:52 |
^ I approve of this post. |
| 1sharppencil 28.08.2012 16:01 |
ha ha! I want your Queen Fan Club membership numbers! and then you must swear an oath to the Fan Club! < I too approve :) |
| mr mason 28.08.2012 16:52 |
So it has been established that it is a bootleg,would anybody be so kind as to seed a copy?I would swear an oath to the Rick Astley fan club if it means i get to see this.Thanks.... |
| GT 28.08.2012 17:02 |
It's not a bootleg, it's a fan club release with all content filmed by Jacky over the years. Jacky has asked for it not to be shared as it was sold to raise funds for the fan club. If you want it - buy it. |
| inu-liger 28.08.2012 20:51 |
mr mason wrote: So it has been established that it is a bootleg,would anybody be so kind as to seed a copy?I would swear an oath to the Rick Astley fan club if it means i get to see this.Thanks....Don't be a jerk. If you badly want to see it, I'm sure with the effort you put into requesting torrents of OFFICIAL MATERIAL, you could easily mirror that effort into ponying up 10-20 quid to buy it from the Fan Club. |
| people on streets 29.08.2012 01:40 |
GT wrote: It's not a bootleg, it's a fan club release with all content filmed by Jacky over the years. Jacky has asked for it not to be shared as it was sold to raise funds for the fan club. If you want it - buy it.I'd rather download it for free wich is perfectly legal in my country :-) |
| GT 29.08.2012 01:58 |
It may be perfectly legal in your country as it is everywhere else, but this was a venture to raise money to keep the longest running fan club in the world going and not to be shared by people who want something for nothing. So far people have respected Jacky's wishes not to share or trade these videos, can we continue that? |
| people on streets 29.08.2012 02:02 |
GT wrote: So far people have respected Jacky's wishes not to share or trade these videos.You don't know that. |
| people on streets 29.08.2012 02:03 |
GT wrote: to keep the longest running fan club in the world going andIf the fanclub would end tomorrow I wouldn't give a shit. |
| GT 29.08.2012 02:10 |
I think we know that by your arrogance and greed. |
| inu-liger 29.08.2012 03:23 |
I'd high five you there Gary, but I'd break my computer monitor >.> |
| mr mason 29.08.2012 04:20 |
I would happily pay for a copy,but the fact remains it is a bootleg,otherwise Jacky would be selling this over the counter and not behind the backs of Queen Productions,but aint that what were all doing?This site provides the real fans with the material that Queen Productions cant be arsed to release!'KISS' like them or not, showed the way with the 'KISSOLOGY'box sets,Queen have a much bigger fan base and would easily profit from something similar!Rhys Thomas is a true fan who knows what we all want,but even he can only do so much!I love Queen and have done for over 30 years and would buy anything that they release,but its very disheartening when they keep releasing the same product over and over again.Bring out the charge of the love brigade,lets organise a march to Brian or Rogers house and demand they show us the same respect as we have given them all these years.Thanks.. |
| inu-liger 29.08.2012 04:25 |
@ mr mason: As Gary already said, IT IS NOT A BOOTLEG. Brian, Roger, QPL et al. gave their blessing to Jacky and the Fan Club to sell the DVD to help raise funds to keep the Fan Club going. I hope you do realize that the Fan Club no longer has an actual B&M front, it's all run from Jacky's own home now - this is the situation the F.C. is currently in! HOW ELSE do you think she could have obtained the high quality audio recordings as featured on the DVD, particularly with the music?? Just because it's sold as a DVD-R with a home-printed style sleeve DOES NOT automatically mean this is a bootleg for you freeloaders to leech upon! And if you keep insisting that this is a bootleg and that you're entitled to download it for free here, I will ensure that YourValentine will have the final word and put her foot down on this, and I will guarantee she will not side with you! Keep it real, stupid. |
| mr mason 29.08.2012 08:24 |
I cant be arsed with people like Inu-liger who thinks its their duty to say who gets what and how.Its pricks like this who ruin this site with their holier than thou attitude.Its not official,you cant go into HMV and buy a CDR with printed labels can you,its a bootleg,end of!!!Keep it real,mutha trucka....... |
| GratefulFan 29.08.2012 09:29 |
GT wrote: It may be perfectly legal in your country as it is everywhere else, but this was a venture to raise money to keep the longest running fan club in the world going and not to be shared by people who want something for nothing. So far people have respected Jacky's wishes not to share or trade these videos, can we continue that?I agree completely that when given the option of paying for something 'official' from the band or sanctioned groups that that is what should be done. It's about respect and a tangible expression of interest that hopefully encourages further development of additional material. But that said, if the fan club itself can't be bothered to treat it like a product and make it easily available through a decent website, then it's that much easier for those inclined to fudge the line to see it as worth their time but neither their money nor their reverence. |
| people on streets 29.08.2012 09:39 |
GT wrote: I think we know that by your arrogance and greed.(sorry double post) |
| people on streets 29.08.2012 09:39 |
GT wrote: I think we know that by your arrogance and greed.I think most people agree with me, otherwise the fanclub wouldn't have a problem with the ever decreasing number of people that are willing to be a paying member. I believe that the fanclub in its actual form is not relevant anymore. This has been the situation for years already. I ended my membership in 1999 or so. It seems Queen has realised this too and stopped funding the fanclub. If Jacky desperately wants to hold on to something wich is not relevant anymore: Fine! She can do whatever she wants. But i'm not paying for that. Queen isn't either. Also, You call me greedy? 20+ years I've paid for every official Queen/solo release up untill Queen live at Bowl. Vinyl, cd, dvd, cassette singles, cd singles. You name it. I'm not doing that anymore.I'd rather spent my money on concert tickets. The world has changed. Almost nobody pays for offical releases anymore. If a fanclub, record company or band has not changed it's business model, don't blame the fans for not paying! Change the business model! We live in 2012. |
| Micrówave 29.08.2012 09:52 |
Brian, Roger, QPL et al. gave their blessing to Jacky and the Fan Club to sell the DVD to help raise funds to keep the Fan Club going. Yes, but we're missing the legality part of the equation. Queen (and I'm assuming this is a Queen video) has an obligation to their record company. This is a clear violation of that. The fan club is in the UK. Queen has an exclusive contract for official releases in the U.K. If they release something outside of that contract, they are in breach of contract. The record company could sue them for past (and future) earnings off this video. And look at that website. It doesn't appear that the video (or whatever other fundraising) is doing well or the money is not being used on the website. I demand a free copy. Charging me for it (other than postage) would be against the law. And if they used the US Mail System to ship this "bootleg", it would be a felony. It needs to be hand delivered. By Brian. |
| The Real Wizard 29.08.2012 12:04 |
mr mason wrote: Its not official,you cant go into HMV and buy a CDR with printed labels can you,its a bootleg,end of!!!Keep it real,mutha trucka.......Not official doesn't necessarily mean bootleg. There are more than two possibilities. Unofficial recordings can include bootlegs, counterfeits, pirates, and things released by other channels that aren't a record label. I see what you're saying, but you need to try and move past this binary thinking that every DVD not in a store is a bootleg. It's a bit more complex than that. In the case of these DVDs, it's a bunch of footage of people talking. The only person who owns the rights to that is the person who is filming it - and this happens to be the person selling it. It is her right to do what she wants with it. If you sold a DVD containing footage of your friends having a pool party, it wouldn't be a bootleg. It would be a DVD of your friends having a pool party. There is no need to categorize it, because it cannot be categorized. The only difference between these fan club DVDs and your pool party DVD is the people in the footage are well-known. |
| people on streets 29.08.2012 12:24 |
^ How about the music that is on the DVD? "Dog With a Bone" Message 3st OIQFC Convention 1988 "Invisible Man" Message 4st OIQFC Convention 1989 "I'm Going Slightly Mad (Totally Bonkers)" Message 6st OIQFC Conv. 1991 What about the Queen logo font used for the frontsleeve? |
| The Real Wizard 29.08.2012 12:31 |
Ah, then we've got a different story ! I highly doubt Jacky would release things through the fan club that QPL didn't approve of. If the fan club is in that much dire need of money, they should release things people ACTUALLY WANT TO BUY. Release a 1978 concert film on DVD (even if it's a single camera with mono audio - people won't care!) and bang, there's a year of operation costs paid for. Give QPL their cut, and everyone wins. |
| tero! 48531 29.08.2012 12:32 |
The Real Wizard wrote:In the case of these DVDs, it's a bunch of footage of people talking. The only person who owns the rights to that is the person who is filming it - and this happens to be the person selling it. It is her right to do what she wants with it. If you sold a DVD containing footage of your friends having a pool party, it wouldn't be a bootleg. It would be a DVD of your friends having a pool party. There is no need to categorize it, because it cannot be categorized. The only difference between these fan club DVDs and your pool party DVD is the people in the footage are well-known.Err... If it was a pool party filming a movie from the tv screen, it would be a bootleg taping of the movie, not a recording of the party. (Otherwise I could tape in a movie theatre and claim I was recording the action of watching a movie, not the actual movie!) What it really comes down to is whether the band gave their permission to record the material at the event, and sell it afterwards. If either of these criteria aren't met, it's a bootleg dvd. I have nothing against the fan club, I've bought items from there in the 90's, I'd buy exclusive items again... But I'm not going to buy anything Jacky is afraid to sell in broad daylight. That tells me the product isn't legitimate. |
| GT 29.08.2012 12:44 |
The DVD was sold to fans attending the 25th convention, over 2 years ago, but as I recall it wasn't ready in time. Maybe someone can shed light on this? For all I know they could all have sold when they were ready and sent out. I initially gave Jacky's contact email so people could ask if is still available to buy. There is no reason she would be advertising it on the website after all this time. As I recall they might even have been on the merchandise stall at this years convention. |
| The Real Wizard 29.08.2012 14:14 |
Why do the players involved think this kind of DVD could be profitable for the fan club, but not 70s concert footage? |
| badboybez 29.08.2012 14:36 |
Never understood the FanClub being hard up for funds. I'm sure Brian, Roger and John (maybe) could solve all the financial issues for Jacky to run it properly. I was a member for about 15 years but gave up when the magazines got fewer each year and that you could find out 'new stories' via the Internet etc. I mean she's not even wished John a Happy Birthday from the other week :) |
| Micrówave 29.08.2012 14:49 |
If the fan club is in that much dire need of money, they should release things people ACTUALLY WANT TO BUY. Release a 1978 concert film on DVD (even if it's a single camera with mono audio - people won't care!) and bang, there's a year of operation costs paid for. Give QPL their cut, and everyone wins.You could take it one step further. For that ridiculous $50, you could get 3 12-page magazines AND the 1978 DVD. You could even charge $55. Maybe someone would actually pay the $50-55, then. Perhaps GT can pass this rather simple plan along to the fan club.... before they go broke and have to have substandard releases and webpages. Oops. |
| mr mason 30.08.2012 04:10 |
I think the fan club is shit,and i personally stopped subscribing in 1994,i think the convention should carry on though as it looks a lot of fun,but i think if you are going to pay your dollar for a years subscription you should be able to purchase better products than a bloody keyring,T-Shirts or cds/dvds that are priced higher than most retailers,they should give you the opportunity to buy exclusive content that you cant buy anywhere else,they show 70s concert at the conventions,so how easy would it be to to mass transfer these shows to dvd/cd and sell them exclusively to fan club members,kinda like a loyalty bonus for worshipping at the alter of King Freddie,then the subscriptions to join would go through the roof,and the fan club could be great again like it once was! |
| inu-liger 30.08.2012 05:58 |
mr mason wrote: I cant be arsed with people like Inu-liger who thinks its their duty to say who gets what and how.Its pricks like this who ruin this site with their holier than thou attitude.Its not official,you cant go into HMV and buy a CDR with printed labels can you,its a bootleg,end of!!!Keep it real,mutha trucka....... Bite me. HMV is not the be all, end all of official product distribution, especially when it comes to exclusives, and you know that! And you've only done yourself a disservice by highlighting your stupidity even further in that post. |
| mr mason 30.08.2012 08:12 |
If u keep taking things personally i presume you either work for QPL or want to.This site is built on people wanting what they cant have,and obtaining such material from other fans who are kind enough to share.When someone uploads a rare video or audio the true fans get excited,like us oldies used to on the day a new release was imminent.If u think im stupid,fine,i wont lose any sleep over it.Thank you and goodnight.Your sincerely Dr.Mason Phd |
| Micrówave 30.08.2012 10:16 |
Judging from your horrible grammar, I doubt you have a Phd. Inu-liger ain't that bad... relax dude. |
| mr mason 30.08.2012 10:34 |
Aint sarcasm a bitch,and i am totally relaxed dude. |
| 1sharppencil 30.08.2012 10:59 |
not all holders of ph.D's can boast of good syntax, I assure you (esp. the "lab rats") on the subject, the FC started declining after 1997-98, something which had to do with the advent of a little thing called the Internet. Brian's site serves as a good "newsletter" - still waiting, a decade and a half later, on Rog> the DVD should be made available thru Queenonline, why not? and it should be made clear that most of the funds would go to Jackie> everybody happy? |
| Micrówave 30.08.2012 12:37 |
I don't think Parlophone or Hollywood Records would be too happy. Shhhh... let's not tell 'em. |
| 1sharppencil 31.08.2012 05:01 |
ok ... ha ha |