QueenZone discussion #1322460
Queen Videoclips Shot on Film and VideoQueen Videoclips Shot on Film and Video
| MERQRY 14.08.2012 18:04 |
I always wanted to create a topic where we can discuss about Queen Videoclips, i'm intrested in know wich Queen's videos were shot on film and wich on video... this topic is more a question than an answer, but i'll try to do my best, but i'd like corrections from your part: 1970: Keep Yourself Alive (both versions) --> Video Liar (Both Versions) ---> Video Seven Seas Of Rhye (TotP) --> Video Killer Queen ---> Video Bohemian Rhapsody ---> Video You're My best Friend --> Video Tie Your Mother Down ---> ¿Video? Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy ---> Video Somebody To Love --> Video Spread Your Wings --> ¿Video? We Will Rock You --> ¿Video? We're The champions --> ¿Film? Fat Bottomed Girls --> Video Don't stop me now --> Looks like Film but stored on video Bicicle race ----> Video/Film Crazy Little thing called love --> Film Save me ---> ¿Film? 1980: Play The game --> Video Another One bites the dust --> Video (FAR the most awful quality i have seen for a Queen's video) Back Chat --> Video Body Language --> Video Las Palabras de amor --> Video Under Pressure --> Mix with film and video sourced footage Radio Gaga --> Shot on Film but latter stored and edited on video Hammer to Fall --> ¿Video? ¿Film? I want to Break Free --> ¿Video? Is a hard Life --> Video One vision --> ¿Video? ¿Film? A kind Of Magic --> Film Frieds Will Be Friends --> Video The miracle --> Film Breakthru --> ¿Film? Scandal --> ¿Film? I want it all --> Film 1990: Innuendo --> Film The Show Must Go On --> Footage from various sources I'm Going Slightly Mad --> ¿Film? Headlong ---> Film These Are The days ---> ¿Film? I want to clarify that i mean SHOT on video, there is videos like "Crazy little thing called love" that aparently was shot on film but stored on video... Sorry if i missed some video, i created this list using my memory... this is a kind of SKETCH Cheers And Thanks!! |
| GinjaNinja 14.08.2012 20:59 |
MERQRY wrote: I always wanted to create a topic where we can discuss about Queen Videoclips, i'm intrested in know wich Queen's videos are shot on film and wich on video... this topic is more a question than an answer, but i'll try to do my best, but i'd like corrections from your part: 1970: Keep Yourself Alive (both versions) --> Video Liar (Both Versions) ---> Video Seven Seas Of Rhye (TotP) --> Video Killer Queen ---> Video Bohemian Rhapsody ---> Video You're My best Friend --> Video Tie Your Mother Down ---> ¿Video? Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy ---> Video Somebody To Love --> Video Spread Your Wings --> ¿Video? We Will Rock You --> ¿Video? We're The champions --> ¿Film? Fat Bottomed Girls --> Video Don't stop me now --> Looks like Film but stored on video Bicicle race ----> Video/Film Crazy Little thing called love --> Film Save me ---> ¿Film? 1980: Play The game --> Video Another One bites the dust --> Video (FAR the most awful quality i have seen for a Queen's video) Back Chat --> Video Body Language --> Video Las Palabras de amor --> Video Under Pressure --> Mix with film and video sourced footage Radio Gaga --> Shot on Film but latter stored and edited on video Hammer to Fall --> ¿Video? ¿Film? I want to Break Free --> ¿Video? Is a hard Life --> Video One vision --> ¿Video? ¿Film? A kind Of Magic --> Film Frieds Will Be Friends --> Video The miracle --> Film Breakthru --> ¿Film? Scandal --> ¿Film? I want it all --> Film 1990: Innuendo --> Film The Show Must Go On --> Footage from various sources I'm Going Slightly Mad --> ¿Film? Headlong ---> Film These Are The days ---> ¿Film? I want to clarify that i mean SHOT on video, there is videos like "Crazy little thing called love" that aparently was shot on film but stored on video... Sorry if i missed some video, i created this list using my memory... this is a kind of SKETCH Cheers And Thanks!! |
| GinjaNinja 14.08.2012 21:00 |
Something went wrong there! Here's my post: I've tried to fill in anything that you weren't sure about or I thought differently about :) 1970: Tie Your Mother Down ---> Video. Spread Your Wings --> Video. We Will Rock You --> Video. We're The Champions --> Film. (They may only have a copy on videotape though) Don't stop me now --> Film (stored on video) Bicicle race ----> Video (band performance)/Film (Girls on bicycles) Crazy Little thing called love --> Video. Save me ---> Film. 1980: Another One bites the dust --> I'm not sure about this one. I'm guessing film poorly transferred onto videotape Radio Gaga --> Video (B&W flying craft bits)/Film (most of the rest) Hammer to Fall --> Film. I want to Break Free --> Film (I think) Is a hard Life --> Film One vision --> Film (Except for the Queen II pose bit at the start, which is on video) Who Wants To Live Forever --> Film Friends Will Be Friends --> Film The Miracle --> Film The Invisible Man --> Film (perhaps a small amount of video, certainly edited on videotape) Breakthru --> Film Scandal --> Film 1990: I'm Going Slightly Mad --> Film. These Are The days ---> Film. Hope this helps :) |
| MERQRY 14.08.2012 21:36 |
Many Thanks!! I only dissent with Crazy Little Thing Called love... for me it was shot on film and later tranferred on video, if you can see the bonus tracks (in These are the days of our lives documentary Bluray) you will release that the "alternatives takes" have an Amazing Quality compared with the "Conmon" scenes that looks more awful, look this samples: Conmon Video:  Alternative Takes:  Mmmm i doubut about It's a Hard Life, it doesn't looks like film at all Cheers! |
| MERQRY 14.08.2012 21:51 |
Mmm i see the cameramen in the video and CLTCL was shot on video, but why the rushes and alternative takes have that AMAZING quality compared with the conmon video?? |
| pittrek 15.08.2012 00:55 |
MERQRY wrote: I always wanted to create a topic where we can discuss about Queen Videoclips, i'm intrested in know wich Queen's videos were shot on film and wich on video... this topic is more a question than an answer, but i'll try to do my best, but i'd like corrections from your part: 1970: Keep Yourself Alive (both versions) --> Video Liar (Both Versions) ---> Video Seven Seas Of Rhye (TotP) --> Video Killer Queen ---> VideoWhich version ? The Dutch TV version "could" be film, but I haven't seen it for a long time Bohemian Rhapsody ---> Video You're My best Friend --> Video Tie Your Mother Down ---> ¿Video? Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy ---> Video Somebody To Love --> Video Spread Your Wings --> ¿Video? We Will Rock You --> ¿Video? We're The champions --> ¿Film?Yes, We Are The Champions is film, it's part of the 1977 Bob Harris footage Fat Bottomed Girls --> Video Don't stop me now --> Looks like Film but stored on videoDSMN - film Bicicle race ----> Video/FilmAgain, which version ? Crazy Little thing called love --> FilmWhat makes you think that ? Looks like video to me Save me ---> ¿Film?Probably yes. 1980: Play The game --> Video Another One bites the dust --> Video (FAR the most awful quality i have seen for a Queen's video)Because it's shot on NTSC video and back-converted to PAL video with primitive analogue video techniques, which resulted in field-blended video. The sad thing is that on all NTSC releases, they have converted it AGAIN from PAL to NTSC instead of using the NTSC "master". Probably they don't own it anymore Back Chat --> Video Body Language --> Video Las Palabras de amor --> Video Under Pressure --> Mix with film and video sourced footage Radio Gaga --> Shot on Film but latter stored and edited on videoActually GaGa looks like a film/video combination to me, but I'm just guessing. Hammer to Fall --> ¿Video? ¿Film?Probably film. I want to Break Free --> ¿Video? Is a hard Life --> Video One vision --> ¿Video? ¿Film?The strange thing about One Vision is that the DoRo team used to film EVERYTHING on film, but One Vision has a sort of a "video feel" to it. A kind Of Magic --> Film Frieds Will Be Friends --> Video The miracle --> Film Breakthru --> ¿Film? Scandal --> ¿Film? I want it all --> Film 1990: Innuendo --> Film The Show Must Go On --> Footage from various sources I'm Going Slightly Mad --> ¿Film? Headlong ---> Film These Are The days ---> ¿Film? Sounds correct. |
| GinjaNinja 15.08.2012 09:59 |
MERQRY wrote Many Thanks!! I only dissent with Crazy Little Thing Called love... for me it was shot on film and later tranferred on video, if you can see the bonus tracks (in These are the days of our lives documentary Bluray) you will release that the "alternatives takes" have an Amazing Quality compared with the "Conmon" scenes that looks more awful Mmmm i doubut about It's a Hard Life, it doesn't looks like film at all Cheers!I agree that the quality difference is stunning, but I assume that's because the alternative takes are from a new transfer of the original rushes, and the common sections are poorly mastered and several generations from the master. You can also see this on the "Somebody To Love" alternative version on the DOOL DVD, the quality is similarly good, they've managed to squeeze a lot of resolution out of the 2" videotapes. With regards to "It's A Hard Life":  In this screenshot you can see a "vignette" around the edge of the picture, and this is the edge of the film cell captured during transfer to videotape for distribution. Film dirt is also visible occasionally during the video. |
| people on streets 15.08.2012 13:50 |
I really dont understand this whole film/video whatever discussion. Who cares? You dont have acces to the masters anyway. |
| MERQRY 15.08.2012 20:50 |
people on streets wrote: I really dont understand this whole film/video whatever discussion. Who cares? You dont have acces to the masters anyway. Curiosity... i've curiosity and i'd love if Queen would make a list with this kind of dates... |
| The Fairy King 16.08.2012 03:29 |
Princes of the Universe --Film |
| KevoM 16.08.2012 06:41 |
Some of the videos may have that 'filmic look' but were shot on video. A technique that became popular from the mid 80s and is still widely used today. The BBC use it a lot for dramas. |
| KevoM 16.08.2012 06:43 |
people on streets wrote: I really dont understand this whole film/video whatever discussion. Who cares? You dont have acces to the masters anyway.IF QP have master edits on film then they would make great HD Blu Ray Transfers. Something which you cannot achieve with stuff shot on standard video. |
| people on streets 16.08.2012 06:59 |
KevoM wrote:Again, why bother? There's nothing you can do about a future Queen release. Nothing.people on streets wrote: I really dont understand this whole film/video whatever discussion. Who cares? You dont have acces to the masters anyway.IF QP have master edits on film then they would make great HD Blu Ray Transfers. Something which you cannot achieve with stuff shot on standard video. |
| KevoM 16.08.2012 10:42 |
people on streets wrote:You're quite right, but it's nice to dream though!KevoM wrote:Again, why bother? There's nothing you can do about a future Queen release. Nothing.people on streets wrote: I really dont understand this whole film/video whatever discussion. Who cares? You dont have acces to the masters anyway.IF QP have master edits on film then they would make great HD Blu Ray Transfers. Something which you cannot achieve with stuff shot on standard video. |
| MERQRY 16.08.2012 11:00 |
KevoM wrote:people on streets wrote:You're quite right, but it's nice to dream though!KevoM wrote:Again, why bother? There's nothing you can do about a future Queen release. Nothing.people on streets wrote: I really dont understand this whole film/video whatever discussion. Who cares? You dont have acces to the masters anyway.IF QP have master edits on film then they would make great HD Blu Ray Transfers. Something which you cannot achieve with stuff shot on standard video. Of course, Kevo is right! by the way in this last times in QZ there isn't any post much more intresting either... maybe is a dram or maybe isn't about dream but only for curiosity, simple curiosity... i invite you to open your mind a bit, but maybe i'm afraid is too much... |
| people on streets 16.08.2012 11:13 |
MERQRY wrote: i invite you to open your mind a bit, but maybe i'm afraid is too much...Get a life. |
| MERQRY 16.08.2012 11:28 |
people on streets wrote:MERQRY wrote: i invite you to open your mind a bit, but maybe i'm afraid is too much...Get a life. I have one, that's why i'm wrtting you... |
| Indo77 17.08.2012 14:55 |
MERQRY wrote: I always wanted to create a topic where we can discuss about Queen Videoclips, i'm intrested in know wich Queen's videos were shot on film and wich on video... this topic is more a question than an answer, but i'll try to do my best, but i'd like corrections from your part: 1970: Keep Yourself Alive (both versions) --> Video Liar (Both Versions) ---> Video Seven Seas Of Rhye (TotP) --> Video Killer Queen ---> Video Bohemian Rhapsody ---> Video You're My best Friend --> Video Tie Your Mother Down ---> ¿Video? Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy ---> Video Somebody To Love --> Video Spread Your Wings --> ¿Video? We Will Rock You --> ¿Video? We're The champions --> ¿Film? Fat Bottomed Girls --> Video Don't stop me now --> Looks like Film but stored on video Bicicle race ----> Video/Film Crazy Little thing called love --> Film Save me ---> ¿Film? 1980: Play The game --> Video Another One bites the dust --> Video (FAR the most awful quality i have seen for a Queen's video) Back Chat --> Video Body Language --> Video Las Palabras de amor --> Video Under Pressure --> Mix with film and video sourced footage Radio Gaga --> Shot on Film but latter stored and edited on video Hammer to Fall --> ¿Video? ¿Film? I want to Break Free --> ¿Video? Is a hard Life --> Video One vision --> ¿Video? ¿Film? A kind Of Magic --> Film Frieds Will Be Friends --> Video The miracle --> Film Breakthru --> ¿Film? Scandal --> ¿Film? I want it all --> Film 1990: Innuendo --> Film The Show Must Go On --> Footage from various sources I'm Going Slightly Mad --> ¿Film? Headlong ---> Film These Are The days ---> ¿Film? I want to clarify that i mean SHOT on video, there is videos like "Crazy little thing called love" that aparently was shot on film but stored on video... Sorry if i missed some video, i created this list using my memory... this is a kind of SKETCH Cheers And Thanks!!Hammer to Fall, I want to Break Free, It's a Hard Life, One Vision and Friends will be friends were shot on 35mm film. Don't Stop Me Now was shot on 16mm. Crazy Little Thing Called Love (official video) was shot on videotape. Someone mention about the technique called "Filmlook" but this was not established until 1989. Today almost everything is shot on digital video and then processed either to look like video (interlaced) or filmlook (progressive). |
| qz08927 17.08.2012 18:03 |
"Mmmm i doubt about It's a Hard Life, it does not looks like film at all" No, that is most definitely film. |
| Holly2003 17.08.2012 19:10 |
qz08927 wrote: "Mmmm i doubt about It's a Hard Life, it does not looks like film at all" No, that is most definitely film.No, that is most definitely not film. Your turn now. |
| qz08927 17.08.2012 20:08 |
Holly2003 wrote:You mean the one with Roger wearing that frill?qz08927 wrote: "Mmmm i doubt about It's a Hard Life, it does not looks like film at all" No, that is most definitely film.No, that is most definitely not film. Your turn now. That is definitely film , it is to colorful to be video. |