| radiogugu 09.07.2012 01:40 |
link Just watch at 5:14. I cannot believe what he said and freddie would be hurt if he heard that. Roger Taylor should be ashamed really... |
| Another Roger (re) 09.07.2012 01:50 |
Roger Taylor was so right. The direction Queen took in this period was terrible. |
| andres_clip 09.07.2012 03:56 |
Just because he liked Freddie doesnt mean he must embrace the gay scene..Me, I love Freddie and the gay scene I dont care as long as u dont do u dirty things in front of me |
| Martin Packer 09.07.2012 05:04 |
The comment - if you listen to it carefully - is about Paul Prenter (and a mention of him thinking Brian's guitar sound old fashioned) - and the influence he had on Freddie. And, as Roger says "hence on the band". I don't find it at all offensive. The "gay club" comment isn't actually anti gay. It's a musical comment. But then I'm straight so what do I know about things being offensive to the gay community. I do know that wasn't Roger's intent. OK, I've been trolled... :-) |
| croatiafan 09.07.2012 05:21 |
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| pittrek 09.07.2012 05:29 |
What did he say ? I don't have youtube access at work |
| YourValentine 09.07.2012 05:46 |
He said that Paul Prenter tried to move Freddie (and the band) towards gay club music and he did not like that. Really homophobic of Roger that he wanted to play Rock music and not club music ;-) |
| cmsdrums 09.07.2012 07:05 |
Yes - Saying he wasn't keen on the music generally played in gay clubs, and would rather than play a different sort of music is SO homophobic isn't it? |
| Martin Packer 09.07.2012 07:16 |
Actually I think Freddie had enough of a "musical compass" not to be too influenced by Paul Prenter. Unless you count Hot Space as a counterexample. :-) Personally I don't as I think at least 2 (and possibly all 4) of them were up for it (Hot Space, I mean). In fact I think Roger overstates his aversion to Hot Space - with the benefit of 30 years of hindsight. |
| LordOfAllDarkness 09.07.2012 07:51 |
Body Language is a gay club song. |
| Elektra 09.07.2012 08:11 |
Roger is not Homophobic at all he was not into House Music. Freddie was into that Music and so was John. Sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with Music its Universal |
| Micrówave 09.07.2012 09:32 |
Sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with Music its UniversalYou haven't seen the Adam Lambert threads, have you? |
| The Fairy King 09.07.2012 11:35 |
He's not being homophobic, but saying he didn't like the music played at gayclubs really. |
| winterspelt 09.07.2012 12:02 |
Someone is trying to troll the Queenzone forums with nonsense threads... |
| people on streets 09.07.2012 12:23 |
radiogugu wrote: link Just watch at 5:14. I cannot believe what he said and freddie would be hurt if he heard that. Roger Taylor should be ashamed really...Fuck off idiot. Roger is no homophobe. YOU should be ashamed for being so stupid. |
| mooghead 09.07.2012 13:04 |
I think someone who took that clip as being homophobic is scouring the archives for homophobic quotes from Queen members thus is probably a little homophobic themselves...... |
| Duraddict 09.07.2012 13:15 |
Hot Space is my favorite Queen record (shoot me later), and yes, I'm gay. If you think ANYTHING Roger said was homophobic then you need to get your head screwed on straight (no pun intended). |
| Flash Jazz 09.07.2012 13:17 |
Second troll thread |
| Man from Zanzibar 09.07.2012 16:03 |
radiogugu wrote: link Just watch at 5:14. I cannot believe what he said and freddie would be hurt if he heard that. Roger Taylor should be ashamed really...>homo >phobia He might not like 'em, but I doubt he's afraid of 'em. |
| GratefulFan 09.07.2012 16:25 |
Umm, no. >ho >mop >hobia According to IWTBF, Roger totally is a slutty schoolgirl who likes cleaning in her spare time. I say credible. |
| the dude 1366 09.07.2012 16:43 |
If he was homophopbic he wouldn't have played with Freddie for 20 years. Oh, and Adam Lambert now. It was a musical comment. Roger didn't want the band he was in to turn into a dance band. I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted his band to sound like they just came out of a hoe-down in Alabama either. |
| Missreclusive 09.07.2012 17:29 |
eesh, dubba post, sorry |
| Missreclusive 09.07.2012 17:30 |
GratefulFan wrote: Umm, no. >ho >mop >hobia According to IWTBF, Roger totally is a slutty schoolgirl who likes cleaning in her spare time. I say credible.LOL, and not a fake one, a real LOL ^5 |
| Sebastian 10.07.2012 00:58 |
Last week I was invited to a Thai restaurant. I declined, as I preferred Italian. I guess that's conclusive proof I hate Thai people, and all Asians for that matter, and all non-Italians for that matter. |
| john bodega 10.07.2012 01:49 |
Threads like this make homophobia seem alright. |
| dysan 10.07.2012 02:47 |
I think Jazz is a far gayer album than Hot Space thematically but the rock muscle kind of hides that. Perhaps that's for another thread. |
| queen79luca 10.07.2012 02:57 |
Bullshit |
| maxpower 10.07.2012 08:17 |
Roger is spot on, you fucking idiot |
| brENsKi 10.07.2012 12:14 |
or......radiogugu is a stupid thick c*nt it has to be one or the other, and i know what i'd put my money on |
| mikezep61 10.07.2012 20:17 |
MARTIN wrote: In fact I think Roger overstates his aversion to Hot Space - with the benefit of 30 years of hindsight. I don't necessarily agree with this statement. Take a look at this youtube video. It's from an Entertainment Tonight interview that was aired in August of 1982 (in fact, I remember seeing the ET cameras at the New Haven concert). Go to 1:25 --- it's pretty obvious that Roger was not particularly thrilled with the latest album: link It sounds like he needed three months, not 30 years to be averse to Hot Space. |
| Martin Packer 11.07.2012 05:28 |
Sounds like none of them were particularly thrilled. |
| tomchristie22 11.07.2012 06:38 |
Roger pioneered disco in Queen music, so he shouldn't complain. But yeah, the thread starter is an idiot |
| shamar 12.07.2012 09:49 |
I twa Rog? I've always think that John. |
| waunakonor 14.07.2012 10:50 |
shamar wrote: I twa Rog? I've always think that John.*It was Rog? I've always thought that was John. Roger wrote Fun it and Fight From the Inside, which sound sort of funky, before John wrote Another One Bites the Dust Duraddict wrote: Hot Space is my favorite Queen record (shoot me later), and yes, I'm gay. If you think ANYTHING Roger said was homophobic then you need to get your head screwed on straight (no pun intended).*BLAM* |
| Day dop 15.07.2012 23:40 |
What a load of bollocks!!!! Roger's homophobic and yet sits on stage and puts his hand on Adam Lambert's knee in a friendly (not sexual) manner??!!? Oh, not to mention how he dressed up in drag for not only I want to break free but The Great Pretender. I think it's safe to say he's comfortable around gay people. Oh yeah, and one of his best mates was gay too.... Fred! If you're not trolling then you're extremely dumb. I hope it's the first. Because I don't mind writing what I have in front of anyone else who could believe such crap. |
| Hannahbal 19.07.2012 17:28 |
YourValentine wrote: He said that Paul Prenter tried to move Freddie (and the band) towards gay club music and he did not like that. Really homophobic of Roger that he wanted to play Rock music and not club music ;-)what a sad day when people can't have opinions upon fear of offending someone. I'm bisexual and I'm not insulted by Roger's comment, it was his band too and had a right to an opinion on the musical direction. The manager was clearly hopping on the disco bandwagon that was very big in the gay community but Queen have and always will be be a band for everyone, Freddie did say that it didn't matter about race, colour or creed after all. |
| ParisNair 23.07.2012 15:02 |
mooghead wrote: I think someone who took that clip as being homophobic is scouring the archives for homophobic quotes from Queen members thus is probably a little homophobic themselves...... ...or yet to come out. |
| ParisNair 23.07.2012 15:03 |
@Hannahbal: YourValentine was being sarcastic there. |
| WizardTurtle 20.01.2015 00:17 |
I know it is a little late to be pointing this out, but just because he didnt want to change his music doesnt make him homophobic. All he said was he didn't want it to sound like it was club music. He just wanted to stick to his genre. Geez, people. |
| joerijoerijoeri 20.01.2015 05:30 |
andres_clip wrote: Just because he liked Freddie doesnt mean he must embrace the gay scene..Me, I love Freddie and the gay scene I dont care as long as u dont do u dirty things in front of meUgh. A comment like this is even worse than the OP |
| Sebastian 20.01.2015 05:53 |
Elektra wrote: Freddie was into that Music and so was John.Not really. That's always been a misunderstood point... John liked R&B, blues, jazz, funk, disco, but not necessarily house music, and he publicly said a couple of times that he didn't like 'Hot Space.' People tend to misblame him for the album because of the 'Another One Bites the Dust' connexion but the truth is John was *less* involved on 'Hot Space' than any of his bandmates. |
| ITSM 20.01.2015 06:44 |
It's allowed to not like what people do, you can still like the person. |
| Oscar J 20.01.2015 08:24 |
Sebastian wrote: Not really. That's always been a misunderstood point... John liked R&B, blues, jazz, funk, disco, but not necessarily house music, and he publicly said a couple of times that he didn't like 'Hot Space.' People tend to misblame him for the album because of the 'Another One Bites the Dust' connexion but the truth is John was *less* involved on 'Hot Space' than any of his bandmates.Hot Space is house music? Also I'd like to see sources of that John didn't like Hot Space. Interesting. |
| mile12 20.01.2015 12:11 |
Hot Space has way more merit and balls then the albums that followed, like Works and AKOM. Yea, it didn' t pay off, but in hindsight they were on to something. Crossover, mixing genres, blending rock with other directions. You can like Hot Space or not, and that is all swell. I can't stand some the songs there, but songs like Back Chat, Dancer, and Staying Power mean more to me then bland inputs like Put Out The Fire, or Action This Day. And as far as this homophobe crap. Well, it' s crap. |
| Sebastian 20.01.2015 12:59 |
Oscar J wrote: Hot Space is house music?No, it's not. 'Hot Space' has eleven songs, each one of them is in a different genre or style, although some of them could be pigeonholed in the same one. Oscar J wrote: Also I'd like to see sources of that John didn't like Hot Space. Interesting.link: They're asked about 'Hot Space', John replies ????????????! (I don't like it at all!). link: John's asked about the best and worst moments of the band. He says the best were Live Aid and the South American tour, and the worst was 'Hot Space.' It makes sense: John was the band member who had least input on the album, and the one whose role suffered the most. |
| miraclesteinway 20.01.2015 14:14 |
I didn't take these remarks as homophobic. I just thought he didn't like the music that was being played in the gay clubs, Queen were more of a rock band, and he probably felt it was just a side step too far. No, not homophobic. I really don't think Roger has any problem with sexuality. |
| ITSM 21.01.2015 05:39 |
mile12 wrote: songs like Back Chat, Dancer, and Staying Power mean more to me then bland inputs like Put Out The Fire, or Action This Day.I agree (+Cool Cat). |
| thomasquinn 32989 21.01.2015 06:11 |
Let's turn it around - it's extremely bigoted to just assume that the vast majority of homosexual people like dance/club music. |
| miraclesteinway 21.01.2015 07:11 |
- and let's not forget thomas, that there are plenty of heterosexual people who love house/dance/club music. That's one of the great things about music - it isn't restricted to sexual orientation, religion, nationality, although of course there is nationalistic music, religious music, and even some 'gay' music, and of course, lots of straight music (man singing that he loves a girl, etc, it's all straight, but so what?) |
| ITSM 21.01.2015 08:08 |
...and gay people singing She instead of He, like Freddie did. |
| The Real Wizard 21.01.2015 10:16 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Let's turn it around - it's extremely bigoted to just assume that the vast majority of homosexual people like dance/club music.Sure, now. But in the early 80s? In a time when the overwhelming majority of society spurned gays in every way imaginable, the clubs were a place of solace and comfort. Of course there is no way of empirically measuring this, but I'd be willing to bet that the musical tastes of gay guys was way more homogenized then than it is now. |
| The Real Wizard 21.01.2015 10:18 |
joerijoerijoeri wrote:Yup. It's about step 5 of 10 of the "ditching homophobia" process that people tend to go through.andres_clip wrote: Just because he liked Freddie doesnt mean he must embrace the gay scene..Me, I love Freddie and the gay scene I dont care as long as u dont do u dirty things in front of meUgh. A comment like this is even worse than the OP |
| Riccashaps 03.12.2018 13:16 |
Just because someone is not into it doesn't mean they are against it. It's like, "If they're not with us, then they are against us" type of reaction. Geesh. People need to chill. Out of all the bandmates, Roger was the one who is always "game" in Freddie's endeavors even when he was doing his solos. His bandmates were progressive thinkers given the time that they grew up in. |
| bucsateflon 03.12.2018 16:25 |
are you troubled and seeking answers? |
| Sweetandtenderhooligan 03.12.2018 18:01 |
I doubt it. He wouldn't have been so close to Freddie and played with him for years if he hated gay people. They all seemed pretty accepting of his sexuality |
| Joeker 03.12.2018 18:34 |
This whole thread is fucking stupid. |
| bucsateflon 04.12.2018 07:47 |
Joeker wrote: This whole thread is fucking stupid.damn right imbecilic thread. Of Course RT made homophobic remarks, who doesn't ? |
| bucsateflon 04.12.2018 07:47 |
. |
| bucsateflon 04.12.2018 17:48 |
. |
| Sweetandtenderhooligan 04.12.2018 18:46 |
Bucsateflon: I don't make homophobic remarks. Ever. |
| FunLovinCriminal 04.12.2018 23:30 |
This thread is not stupid at all. It very much shows that quite a lot of people find polarization to be a fun thing. It makes things look easier when they are, in fact, a lot more complex. |
| BETA215 05.12.2018 03:29 |
You're so useless that you aren't even able to properly troll any guy on this forum. At least try to do it well. |
| The Real Wizard 05.12.2018 05:37 |
bucsateflon wrote: . Of Course RT made homophobic remarks, who doesn't ?People who aren't homophobic, that's who. Give it a try some time. |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.12.2018 11:35 |
The degenerate reactionary "bucsateflon" appears to be entirely beyond redemption. Some people are, sadly, thoroughly rotten. |
| bucsateflon 05.12.2018 12:30 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: The degenerate reactionary "bucsateflon" appears to be entirely beyond redemption. Some people are, sadly, thoroughly rotten.my bait worked perfectly and this stupid twat tagged "question mark boy-girl" got butthurt again!!!! and yes "butthurt" is my homophobe remark directed to you dumb bitch... Waiting for your rant filled with stupid questions(hence your nickname) |
| The Fairy King 06.12.2018 12:50 |
bucsateflon wrote:Judging from your reply, you're in dire need of this:thomasquinn 32989 wrote: The degenerate reactionary "bucsateflon" appears to be entirely beyond redemption. Some people are, sadly, thoroughly rotten.my bait worked perfectly and this stupid twat tagged "question mark boy-girl" got butthurt again!!!! and yes "butthurt" is my homophobe remark directed to you dumb bitch... Waiting for your rant filled with stupid questions(hence your nickname) link You're welcome. |
