QueenZone discussion #1317393

pittrek wrote: He DID hit the notes live pretty often actually. But his voice changed during the tours and indeed, during the last shows he usually sounded pretty weak

radiogugu wrote:

pittrek wrote: He DID hit the notes live pretty often actually. But his voice changed during the tours and indeed, during the last shows he usually sounded pretty weak

No way. Just listen to the note in under pressure. he couldn't hit that note no way. It has to be studio tampering making it seem higher

radiogugu wrote: I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher. To seem better than it actually was.

Montreux wrote:

radiogugu wrote: I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher. To seem better than it actually was.

Excuse me, aren't you fan of Adam Lambert?

radiogugu wrote: Man, I listen to him sing on his albums and it is amazing. Live however, he NEVER hits notes he did in the studio. A lot of songs make me go "wow" when I listen to them on cd. When I watch queen live, it is a letdown. Under Pressure, Who Wants To Live Forever, pretty much EVERY Queen song actually.....He avoids ALL the high notes and makes his drummer sing them. I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher. To seem better than it actually was.

emrabt wrote: lmao, yes he was a lead singer of Fraud in the mid 80's.

@ radiogugu - I'd like to hear you do better!

Holly2003 wrote: Yes he was a fraud. He also had a girlfriend called Mary Austin, so he wasn't even totally gay as he had everyone believe. Furthermore, his real name was Farrokh Bulsara, not Freddie Mercury. It was all a tissue of lies. It wouldn't surprise me if his moustache was fake too.

radiogugu wrote: Seems everyone has to resort to sarcastic responses instead of answering my question. So I guess freddie did in fact tamper studio notes. he certainly cannot do under pressure notes or who wants to live forever notes lives in their original form. hell, lambert atleast does it live. Lambert at least doesn't wimp out live. He certainly sings circles around freddie in live performances

radiogugu wrote: Man, I listen to him sing on his albums and it is amazing. Live however, he NEVER hits notes he did in the studio. ....He avoids ALL the high notes and makes his drummer sing them. I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher.

Marcos Napier wrote: He's such a fraud that he couldn't even duplicate that damn easy opera section live and had to use ANALOG TAPES - not even computers and ProTools! Fraud, fraud fraud. At least he died before Autotune was invented or else he would have used it all the time too. (do I need to type the word "sarcasm"?)

Zebonka12 wrote: I actually don't agree with people who reckon digital technology is ruining music, in and of itself. It just happens to be the thing we're using at the moment. Blame the people who show extremely poor judgement in manipulating that technology ...

SimonFerocious wrote: Freddie was struggling with his voice on The Magic Tour. I agree that his vocals weren't up to scratch there but that was probably his HIV condition asserting itself. If you look at Queen On Fire from Milton Keynes Bowl in 1982, Freddie's voice is fantastic. He goes for all the high notes and gets them. It depends what concert you are looking at.

radiogugu wrote: Man, I listen to him sing on his albums and it is amazing. Live however, he NEVER hits notes he did in the studio. A lot of songs make me go "wow" when I listen to them on cd. When I watch queen live, it is a letdown. Under Pressure, Who Wants To Live Forever, pretty much EVERY Queen song actually.....He avoids ALL the high notes and makes his drummer sing them. I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher. To seem better than it actually was.

Holly2003 wrote: Yes he was a fraud. He also had a girlfriend called Mary Austin, so he wasn't even totally gay as he had everyone believe. Furthermore, his real name was Farrokh Bulsara, not Freddie Mercury. It was all a tissue of lies. It wouldn't surprise me if his moustache was fake too.

radiogugu wrote: Man, I listen to him sing on his albums and it is amazing. Live however, he NEVER hits notes he did in the studio. A lot of songs make me go "wow" when I listen to them on cd. When I watch queen live, it is a letdown. Under Pressure, Who Wants To Live Forever, pretty much EVERY Queen song actually.....He avoids ALL the high notes and makes his drummer sing them. I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher. To seem better than it actually was.

MDNA wrote:

radiogugu wrote: Man, I listen to him sing on his albums and it is amazing. Live however, he NEVER hits notes he did in the studio. A lot of songs make me go "wow" when I listen to them on cd. When I watch queen live, it is a letdown. Under Pressure, Who Wants To Live Forever, pretty much EVERY Queen song actually.....He avoids ALL the high notes and makes his drummer sing them. I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher. To seem better than it actually was.

You obviously have no idea how an album is made or how a tour is managed. there are at least 3 points to consider wnhen comparing a studio recording with a live performance: 1 - in the studio a singer can record multiple takes of a song or just a specific verse and then select the best for the final mix, even back then in the era of analog multitrack tapes. If he can't get the note he wants one day he can go rest or rehearse and come back later to do it, always in a controled environment. 2 - on tour you have to deliver the same songs 30 to 40 times, or whatever the length of the tour is, over a period of 1 or two months, sometimes in consecutive nights. When doing this you realy have to take care of your voice, and not strain it too much. Freddie in particular, from very early on, had problems with nodes in his vocal cords that sometimes impacted the tours, one of the most known incidents was on Sun City, when he completely lost his voice one night after just a couple of songs. And in Live Aid he performed against the advice of his doctor. Guess he decided to do it because Queen had no more schedulled apearances for that year wich meant he could take it easy afterwords 3 - Queen actualy made it a point of not reproducing the record on stage. They felt it was disrespectful of the audience to do so. If people wanted to listen to the songs as played in the record they could stay home, instead they wanted every concert to be an experience for the audience. That is why Queen where also pioneers in incorporating elaborate light, sound and phyro schemes into the show, something for wich they where criticized at the time. Fact is, some years later, every major rock band was doing the same. Also, hardly any performer can reproduce a song live as it was recorded every single time they perform. If you listen to enough shows you will inevitably recognise this to be true.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: This might be a tad impopular (though, judging from the responses, not nearly as impopular as some of the above posts), but I seriously suspect that the quality of Freddie's performances were also affected by the amount of alcohol and tobacco he took shortly before the show. Why do I believe this to be the case? As a tour drags on, alcohol and drug consumption tends to increase. During the 1970s, when Freddie wasn't (heavily) smoking and drinking, the difference between early-tour-Freddie and late-tour-Freddie seemed far less than it was in the '80s.

brENsKi wrote:

radiogugu wrote: Man, I listen to him sing on his albums and it is amazing. Live however, he NEVER hits notes he did in the studio. ....He avoids ALL the high notes and makes his drummer sing them. I have a feeling he was a fraud singer. Can't hit the notes live so used studio tricks to make his voice higher.

you're a f*ckin indiot. what's your next claim? Br*an shagged animals? J*hn murdered his mother? only question needing an answer: is radiogugu a fucking simpleton? a] yes b] deifnitely c] more than we'll ever know or be able to measure d] makes scientoloty look like the sensible alternative

kdj2hot wrote: Most of you people are complete idiots who knows nothing about music. I can say that from the response I got from my spectacular rendention of seven seas of rhye from that contest. Ignorance is bliss though so you idiots out there should be quite happy

Holly2003 wrote: That's right, everyone's an idiot -- except you. And no one recognises your great musical talent -- except you. And no one can see the alien spaceships -- except you.

tomchristie22 wrote:

kdj2hot wrote: Most of you people are complete idiots who knows nothing about music. I can say that from the response I got from my spectacular rendention of seven seas of rhye from that contest. Ignorance is bliss though so you idiots out there should be quite happy

You know what's ignorant? Sweeping generalisations like this. I haven't heard said spectacular rendition of SSOR, (but I'm sure it'd have me in tears of joy and admiration), but if everybody except you thought it was shit, then maybe you ought to reconsider which party 'knows nothing about music'. :P

Q NUT wrote: What the hell has this thread come to

kdj2hot wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: That's right, everyone's an idiot -- except you. And no one recognises your great musical talent -- except you. And no one can see the alien spaceships -- except you.

No, Im pretty sure youre an idiot without knowing anything else about you except this post. My fecal matter has more general potential than a useless piece of crap like you. I didnt say anything about spaceships and refuse to be brought down by the common tactic of randomness that you stupids seem to be so fond of.

Holly2003 wrote:

kdj2hot wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: That's right, everyone's an idiot -- except you. And no one recognises your great musical talent -- except you. And no one can see the alien spaceships -- except you.

No, Im pretty sure youre an idiot without knowing anything else about you except this post. My fecal matter has more general potential than a useless piece of crap like you. I didnt say anything about spaceships and refuse to be brought down by the common tactic of randomness that you stupids seem to be so fond of.

Calling someone an idiot when you can't use apostrophes makes you look like  ... (wait for it) ... an idiot. Anyway, it was just my attempt to point out, in a slightly humourous way, that you're taking everything far too seriously. But you took umbrage and made an ass of yourself. Carry on. Monkeys at the zoo sometimes fling shit like you do and it can be amusing.

Ozz wrote: Its nice to see that Op brought a nice topic to discuss. Obvious troll it's obvious, and as usual we also have the raging responses of the stepford fans. I dont like much the style of Freddie's voice during the works tour and the magic tour. it sound like he is not taking any more risks... (except for live aid when he goes for all). However, He was fabulous in those late seventeen concerts