| MEDUSA-RULES 27.06.2012 21:58 |
This is a very troubling time for me as a Queen fan. We are witnessing perhaps the most gigantic blunder in Queen's history. We are, I think about to see the image of Freddie Mercury forever tarnished by the ambitions of a rather obscure, secretive and talentless man as far as real acting ability, who has become famous for creating lunatic characters who are a mockery of both themselves and anyone who gets in their way. Sacha Baron cohen, a man known for the talent of consumate mockery and outrageousness, could be known forever as the man who showed the world who Freddie Mercury really was. This is so ironic and so opposed to "protecting the image and legacy of our friend" to Quote Brian May of Queen, that i think i may be dreaming. It is even more unberlievable, when you consider the miracle of my finding THE MAN who is so startlingly MERCURY, that if he was in the role, audiences all over the world would leave the cinemas literally dazed and confused by just how it was achieved with no CGI. link Jeremy Kapone is Mercury link cast of 36 actors "Et tu, Brute?" |
| waunakonor 27.06.2012 22:45 |
This is no more troubling than anything else that has happened in the past, say, 15 years. I don't honestly see how a film is going to destroy the image of Queen or Freddie Mercury or anything like that. The movie will come out eventually, but all Queen's music will still be there, everything else will be intact, and the earth will keep moving 'round and 'round. Sacha Cohen is not going to single-handedly change any of that. In fact, the movie may turn out to be decent. Many fans had their doubts when Roger was picking members for the Queen Extravaganza, but he must have seen something we didn't because it turned out to be a great show. Those two still know what they're doing at least sone of the time, and although they've made some more questionable choices over the years...well, we're all still here, are we not? So let's just all hold hands, forget all our doubts and concerns about the future of (what is for many of us) the greatest rock band ever, and go into this together, and as Queen fans. If we make it out alive somehow, we can all marvel at how good the film was or gripe about how bad it was. If we don't make it, well, I'll see you guys in heaven, or wherever I may end up. For the meantime, however, let's just stop our bitching and worry about things that really matter. So, what's your favorite Queen song? That was my deep, sentimental philosophy for today. I am tired. Good night, QueenZone. |
| rhyeking 27.06.2012 22:49 |
Relax. It'll be fine. Actors get cast against type all the time. It can bring out new and dynamic performances. Besides, one person doesn't make or break a film. There's the script he works from, the director directing him, the editor cutting together his footage, the other actors he plays off of... You can't really judge a forthcoming performance based on what an actor did before, especially if it's a different kind of role. So, yeah, the sky is not falling. |
| john bodega 27.06.2012 23:55 |
You are absolutely ridiculous. |
| mooghead 28.06.2012 01:14 |
"This is a very troubling time for me as a Queen fan." On behalf of us all I offer you our deepest sympathies. Chin up lad, you'll be ok. Love |
| emrabt 28.06.2012 02:46 |
I have a list of 103 actor for this movie, here is a sample: Phil collins as peter gabriel link Peter Cushing as Freddies dad, Bob link peter gabriel As phil collins link David Brighton as Brighton rock link Professor John tricyle as Bicycle Race. link billy idol As Jonny rotten link Richard Obrien as James Hutton / The dream master link Navi Jackson as Mary Austin link Bruce li as Roger Taylor link Natasha 18 from london as Red Special link Bob Hoskins as the plumber who fixed Freddies boiler in 1971 link Nicholas Lyndhurst as Shaggy link Pablo dogger as Scooby / Dog with a bone link lou ferrigno as Brian may / Evil Brian may link Warwick Davis, his wife and kids as coke carrying dwarfs link Brian may as Brian may's dad, BOBBY / Tom baker link And this guy as John Deacon link |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 03:11 |
waunakonor wrote: This is no more troubling than anything else that has happened in the past, say, 15 years. I don't honestly see how a film is going to destroy the image of Queen or Freddie Mercury or anything like that. The movie will come out eventually, but all Queen's music will still be there, everything else will be intact, and the earth will keep moving 'round and 'round. Sacha Cohen is not going to single-handedly change any of that. In fact, the movie may turn out to be decent. Many fans had their doubts when Roger was picking members for the Queen Extravaganza, but he must have seen something we didn't because it turned out to be a great show. Those two still know what they're doing at least sone of the time, and although they've made some more questionable choices over the years...well, we're all still here, are we not? So let's just all hold hands, forget all our doubts and concerns about the future of (what is for many of us) the greatest rock band ever, and go into this together, and as Queen fans. If we make it out alive somehow, we can all marvel at how good the film was or gripe about how bad it was. If we don't make it, well, I'll see you guys in heaven, or wherever I may end up. For the meantime, however, let's just stop our bitching and worry about things that really matter. So, what's your favorite Queen song? That was my deep, sentimental philosophy for today. I am tired. Good night, QueenZone.This is the one thing that can destroy Freddie's image, it should be obvious why it can, it is cinema , it is a lasting portrayal of Freddie himself. So, what's your favorite Queen song? i dont have one |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 03:14 |
rhyeking wrote: Relax. It'll be fine. Actors get cast against type all the time. It can bring out new and dynamic performances.lol the point is he is not an actor he cannot act! To begin to portray the extraordinary charisma and humour of Freddie will take a real actors insight into him as a person, only an actor can study this and begin to genuinly recreate it from a real heart and convey it plausably. The same goes for Freddies unmatched stage perfomance, it will take a real actor with physical stamina and energy and an insight into the human exuberence guts and gusto and exageration of Freddies core self, to truly replicate such a massive stage presence and the mobility and musical expressiveness of Freddie by the actors body , that becomes Mercury on stage. only KAPONE can do all this in every facet, in a way that it is complete, convincing, and truly shines with Freddie, in every respect. It's Challenging the Doors Of Time |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 03:16 |
AN ACTOR’S INSIGHT OR A BIG NAME? No, an unknown is essential for the role, that is what you need. An unknown who can act and essentially be Mercury on screen, which is what i have found and wow can he look like him! , an unknown genuine actor with a script that portrays Freddie properly , both the performer Mercury and the private man Mercury , otherwise you will DESTROY Freddie mercury's image both as a performer and as a man. Real actors are able to crush (EMPTY) themselves and become a person, Sacha cannot do this, his characters are an extension of his own ego, that is not acting it is performing. By letting another powerful well known personality (Sacha) take his (Freddie's) place , you destory his (Freddie's) image. You do not want to have a performer who is based upon themselves (ego), that is a disastrous thing to do to Freddies image. It is like handing him over to somebody wielding a sledge hammer, literally . The world's perception of the ego based Sacha performance will profoundly stick and the damage to the perception of Freddie will be lasting , he will be forgotten yet thought known,totally distorted,disfigured. If sacha's performance is anywhere near credible, it will mean this truly disastrous scenario, because for sacha credbility rests entirely on his speciality- his only range of acting skills that have real impact i.e - his Borat style acting, which rests upon him entirely , and has no relationship to anything REAL, be it a fictional reality based character person, or a factually real portrayal of a real person- such as the Freddie Biopic will be . Note: Even spiderman and superman are characters based upon real humans with real human reactions and everyday interactions, and reality based emotional responses to real , even if , fictionalised situations. Borat is not based upon any human reality at all, it is completly performed in a detached reality, that has no bearing on anything remotley real as far as a study of any real human behaviours , reactions, or thought processes. You have to understand that Sacha has never played anything remotely near human reality based, even for something as fantastical as the human reality based side of superman , so can hardly be expected to play a real human, and that is why when he tries to portray even fictional characters that are characters that are complete with real human reactions and interactions with other characters, he fails miserably. This is the key reason behind Sacha's inability to act out anything other than his own unreal creations convincingly. IN SHORT ALL THE ABOVE EXPLAINS WHY SACHA CANNOT ACT AS A REAL PERSON BECAUSE HE HAS NEVER REALLY TRIED TO ACT AS A REAL PERSON- EVEN IF IT WAS A FICTIONAL REAL PERSON. And it's too late now to start learning in time for the Freddie Mercury biopic That is why i think the below outcome is more probable. But if it turns out like i think it will, the film will be seen as atrociuosly bad and funny where it is not meant to be funny, and the only thing people will be seriously discussing is the question of the end of Sacha's career . Because they will say , he failed at scripted comedy, and now after attempting a serious dramatic part he has failed yet again. This is not naysaying or vindictive, it is the rational outcome when you honestly consider the extent of Sacha's talents as an actor- he can either do totally borat rediculous or he fails, and that is that. He just cannot convince as an actor unless he is in loony land, and speaking it's language. Whereass A good actor can become Freddie , tell his story and leave Freddie intact. Kapone is perfect for this as he can really become Freddie in a way other actors cant. To begin to portray the extraordinary charisma and humour of Freddie will take a real actors insight into him as a person, only an actor can study this and begin to genuinly recreate it from a real heart and convey it plausably. The same goes for Freddies unmatched stage perfomance, it will take a real actor with physical stamina and energy and an insight into the human exuberence guts and gusto and exageration of Freddies core self, to truly replicate such a massive stage presence and the mobility and musical expressiveness of Freddie by the actors body , that becomes Mercury on stage. only KAPONE can do all this in every facet, in a way that it is complete, convincing, and truly shines with Freddie, in every respect. |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 03:20 |
The only way you can protect Freddie 's image, is by having someone who becomes Freddie to the audience if you get someone who is trying to be freddie by using their own ego rather than being him by true acting all his shit will stain Freddies image forever. |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 03:28 |
You see the trouble i think is, you all like to moan about what Queen does after the fact. but what you should do is moan before the fact and give good arguments before it becomes fact. This takes actual passion, real opinion, and action. |
| inu-liger 28.06.2012 03:31 |
Ryuichi Sakamoto should play John Deacon...he's not only got the serious look but the zen to go with it... |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 03:37 |
I genuinely believe that if Freddie was here and was going to have a biopic made about him while still alive, he would prefer Kapone over Sacha, infact i think he would be shocked anyone would seriously consider sacha. he would think it was an awful choice and dismiss it out of hand. Freddie was a very cultured man, aswell as being aware of pop culture etc, he would have known what good acting was, and that a good actor was essential if a movie about him was made, and would know sacha's actng ability was not sufficent. I MEAN ITS SO OBVIOUS IT IS NOT! Also he would know the impact on the general public of such a movie and how important it was to get it right. He would also be fully aware of how the strong image of Borat was attached to SBC. He would prefer Kapone for many reasons, primarily because he would make Freddie look good, young as he was , and would know he was far more capable of convincingly protraying him than sbc. i think he would be outraged by cohen taking the role. Freddie had a sense of humour yes, but he didnt like to be made a fool of or waste his money on crap. would you? Just realise , as unvain or vain as Freddie was do you really think he would want a 41 year old to play him at age 25 and up? forget the fact he catnact, that alone would make Freddie shudder. comon you have got to be joking but my goodness!! they are going to go ahead with this insult! who is going to protect Freddie! because they have gone insane! what an outrage! |
| ludwigs 28.06.2012 03:56 |
I'm finding it hard that it is affecting you so much. Maybe you should pop along to a childrens hospital or a MacMillan nursing home and get some more perspective about things that really do matter? I doubt this potential film will tarnish Fred's reputation? Seemed he became more popular after his death. |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 04:02 |
ludwigs wrote: I'm finding it hard that it is affecting you so much. Maybe you should pop along to a childrens hospital or a MacMillan nursing home and get some more perspective about things that really do matter? I doubt this potential film will tarnish Fred's reputation? Seemed he became more popular after his death.such comments are really quite silly. AND ALSO TRANSPARENT, because you silly remark exposes the fact you fear the logic of my points, so resort to some kind of irrational argument based on a false humility and false comparisms of the importance that i should be concerned people at this moment are suffering, and go on about something that is totally inapropraite and inaffective and irrelevent as an argument against the points i have made. i care about queen i care about freddie i like their music and them but i am not here to detract from what people are here to do by telling them they should not be here doing what this forum was designed to do which is allowing them to express there thoughts on queen and freddie, which is exactly what i am doing. And my thoughts are only voiced because i feel strongly about them, i dont express what i do not believe in, or havent thought enough about. i dont know how other peoples minds work, but i actually can only be bothered talking about things i care about. if you have a problem with that and feel there are more important things to do at this particular moment in time i suggest you do them. and the bit about him becoming more popular after death is quite sick really isnt it. i am concerned only with what i know to be true he would prefer a competent and appropraite actor to play him if he was alive or dead. |
| MEDUSA-RULES 28.06.2012 04:26 |
You see it doesnt matter how much crap people keep wrting about sacha baron cohens great acting skill or his great singing skill or his great resemblance to Freddie Mercury because it is all crap in the end bullshit is bullshit and the truth that sacha cannot act and freddie would want somebody perfect to play him rather than a fixed first choice with no compromise still remains and always will. and because they are not looking for the best for the lead role by actually holding on for a casting period with the involvement of a real director making the decisions shows they have sold freddie mercury for a knowingly blind business deal for ther sake of money. and no matter how much media spin is put on it in the end everyone of those damn liars knows they are lying. and truth comes out of every mouth that cannot stand for such bullshit and they will oppose sacha cohen no matter how much crap enters their head via their eyes- wether in print or on the cinema screen. |
| Senna 28.06.2012 05:38 |
Although we all love Freddie and think of what an exceptional talent he was please also remember he was not a God or a saint for that matter. It's just entertainment. |
| john bodega 28.06.2012 06:18 |
I really get a Chapman/Hinckley vibe from these posts. It's a good thing Freddie's dead and safe from nutjobs like this. |
| matt z 28.06.2012 06:29 |
Well...judging from Queen's past with film.... Flash Gordon...bomb; but cult classic (I used to get sick just looking at the Hawkmen as a kid...if the film ever came up, it almost made me want to vomit; I didn't see the "camp" in it until I was in my 20's) Iron Eagle...pretty alright...does nothing for the band...One Vision isn't their most distinctive rock riff... (Tymd is)... Its simple Highlander.... Epic construction of songs, formidable; but ridiculed somehow by many critics. ...So.. Not counting "bicycle race" in "how high" or "you're my best friend" in Shaun of the Dead... I don't expect much from this. Sascha was terrible in HUGO. He had no sensitivity to his role, which made him seem fake and out of place; out of touch. If anything, it will only generate further camp and humor...cause Sascha is a jerk who isn't fit for a serious role. Oh well. "BLADES OF GLORY" found a way to make it interesting again. Don't look for any "Oscar" nods_- despite the suggestion that the academy is gay. It'll probably be a flop. Meritless flop. Either that or I just dislike Sascha...he's a character goon |
| Tommilaiho 28.06.2012 06:32 |
I'm actually quite hopefull about that movie. Sacha is a fan of Freddies, and 'cause that he will give honest but respectfull performance. Remember that Freddie never , ever took himself too seriously and was quite a joker himself |
| Montreux 28.06.2012 07:12 |
"his Borat style acting, which rests upon him entirely , and has no relationship to anything REAL, be it a fictional reality based character person, or a factually real portrayal of a real person" Medusa, what do you really know about acting? |
| waunakonor 28.06.2012 12:23 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote:No, it's not.waunakonor wrote: This is no more troubling than anything else that has happened in the past, say, 15 years. I don't honestly see how a film is going to destroy the image of Queen or Freddie Mercury or anything like that. The movie will come out eventually, but all Queen's music will still be there, everything else will be intact, and the earth will keep moving 'round and 'round. Sacha Cohen is not going to single-handedly change any of that. In fact, the movie may turn out to be decent. Many fans had their doubts when Roger was picking members for the Queen Extravaganza, but he must have seen something we didn't because it turned out to be a great show. Those two still know what they're doing at least sone of the time, and although they've made some more questionable choices over the years...well, we're all still here, are we not? So let's just all hold hands, forget all our doubts and concerns about the future of (what is for many of us) the greatest rock band ever, and go into this together, and as Queen fans. If we make it out alive somehow, we can all marvel at how good the film was or gripe about how bad it was. If we don't make it, well, I'll see you guys in heaven, or wherever I may end up. For the meantime, however, let's just stop our bitching and worry about things that really matter. So, what's your favorite Queen song? That was my deep, sentimental philosophy for today. I am tired. Good night, QueenZone.This is the one thing that can destroy Freddie's image, it should be obvious why it can, it is cinema , it is a lasting portrayal of Freddie himself. Tommilaiho wrote: I'm actually quite hopefull about that movie. Sacha is a fan of Freddies, and 'cause that he will give honest but respectfull performance. Remember that Freddie never , ever took himself too seriously and was quite a joker himselfThose are basically my thoughts, I just don't know how to put them to words properly. matt z wrote: Well...judging from Queen's past with film.... Flash Gordon...bomb; but cult classic (I used to get sick just looking at the Hawkmen as a kid...if the film ever came up, it almost made me want to vomit; I didn't see the "camp" in it until I was in my 20's) Iron Eagle...pretty alright...does nothing for the band...One Vision isn't their most distinctive rock riff... (Tymd is)... Its simple Highlander.... Epic construction of songs, formidable; but ridiculed somehow by many critics. ...So.. Not counting "bicycle race" in "how high" or "you're my best friend" in Shaun of the Dead... I don't expect much from this.What the hell does that have to do with anything? matt z wrote: Sacha was terrible in HUGO. He had no sensitivity to his role, which made him seem fake and out of place; out of touch.Why are we using this as his defining role? He hasn't acted enough in a non-Borat type movie for us to know how he really is as an actor. Even in Hugo, his character was mainly comic relief, so he didn't really need to fit in well with the movie or for audiences to connect with him. This will be his first role (as far as I know of) where we do need to connect with him on some level. We shall see how he does. |
| Holly2003 28.06.2012 13:39 |
This is one of those "I may not know much about art but I know what I hate" topics and clearly Medusa-whatever hates Sasha. And now that he's made that point a number of times in the short time he's been here, perhaps he would now stfu about it and move onto something else. |
| matt z 29.06.2012 00:08 |
My mistake, maybe I didn't phrase things concisely; I was just rebutting the "thesis" of the poster, that this film with SBC might possibly ruin Freddies reputation and credibility. I was stating using examples of Queen in cinema, that they've rarely ever had serious dramatic application. The one exception I can think of is "who wants to live forever" in HIGHLANDER (yet, in spite of that, the bad make up on his aging wife makes it sorta hard to believe) So,...with Queen's presence in film usually being humorous... Or amorous.. I don't see how it will tarnish the band's image. It will just be another foray into the realm of "cult classic/camp" status. Possibly even moreso depending on how bad it can get. The fact that they've "survived" being in a few turkeys would have been a good precedent for how good or bad the results on the public could be (ah great, now I sound like I'm in marketing!) At best, this could bring about another revival like 1992 with Wayne's World. At worst, a camp film shown every year in revival theaters (like Rocky Horror, Showgirls, Invasion USA, Disco Godfather) So, my post was relevant, but probably phrased badly. Sorry bout that. Also, considering that from all sources that mention it; the film will bookend with Live Aid; its really unlikely that the filmmakers will make Freddies personal life even much of the story. That said, expect another SHOWGIRLS ;) [ie. Box office hyped bomb, forever seen in revivals] ;) its a lot to hope for! My grief with the whole thing was about Sbc...possibly linking Brian's public peaceful guy status vs the bigoted 50's style "humor" that SBC became famous with (sure they're fictional places but he's really ridiculing a culture in a time of "warfare"...knowing there were recruiters at my high school for instance; hipped me to the fact that that sort of ridicule is capitalised on) Btw: I didn't realize he was supposed to be a comic foil in HUGO... Aside from seeing him do a synchronized take with his watch dog....I didn't find anything remotely funny about his character. Hell, I found his acting efforts at sympathy (for instance when he wishes to speak with the flower woman but is put back by his squeaky leg). Maybe I should watch it again. My enjoyment came from the novelties of the old cinema, not much of the situations. Those were pretty bleak considering it was a children's film. If it wasn't for the energy of the "discovery" and "adventure" involved in it, the film adaptation could have been a lot more somber. That said: I hope the Queen film bio is good. Much like Queen + AL...just gotta sit back and hope its good. That's about it |
| master marathon runner 29.06.2012 04:54 |
calm down dear! If anyone has any doubts about SBC's abilities, just watch him in Sweeney Todd opposite Johnny Depp. You'll be pleasantly surprised and reassured.He is more than capable. Trust me. |
| ludwigs 29.06.2012 05:16 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote:How would I possibly 'fear' the logic of your posts and your assumption of my mindset, Mr Freud is way, way off!!??ludwigs wrote: I'm finding it hard that it is affecting you so much. Maybe you should pop along to a childrens hospital or a MacMillan nursing home and get some more perspective about things that really do matter? I doubt this potential film will tarnish Fred's reputation? Seemed he became more popular after his death.such comments are really quite silly. AND ALSO TRANSPARENT, because you silly remark exposes the fact you fear the logic of my points, so resort to some kind of irrational argument based on a false humility and false comparisms of the importance that i should be concerned people at this moment are suffering, and go on about something that is totally inapropraite and inaffective and irrelevent as an argument against the points i have made. i care about queen i care about freddie i like their music and them but i am not here to detract from what people are here to do by telling them they should not be here doing what this forum was designed to do which is allowing them to express there thoughts on queen and freddie, which is exactly what i am doing. And my thoughts are only voiced because i feel strongly about them, i dont express what i do not believe in, or havent thought enough about. i dont know how other peoples minds work, but i actually can only be bothered talking about things i care about. if you have a problem with that and feel there are more important things to do at this particular moment in time i suggest you do them. and the bit about him becoming more popular after death is quite sick really isnt it. i am concerned only with what i know to be true he would prefer a competent and appropraite actor to play him if he was alive or dead. My suggestion was to perhaps give you a better grounding about what things kinda are a little important in the scheme of things. I have been really into Queen since 1974 and was as avid a fan as there could ever be - all through school, punk, New romantics and all the other 'popular trends' I was totally into Queen. Everyone else seemed to only like them when it was cool to. (Mostly after Fred's death I may add....) I can appreciate your passion but do you really think that 'venting-your-spleen' is ever going to change things one iota? You suggest that I should go off and do more important things - well, you're in luck. I do every day. It's part of my job. I occasionally read here and hardly post as it is purely a passing thing that has no bearing on my life. I like Queen up to when Freddie died and the rest has little interest to me as it has become about money, money, money. The people I respected and thought I knew when growing up has, sadly - and true to usual form - become not 'heroes'. Really, just normal people with nice points and ugly traits . I see you dislike SBC and don't think he is up to the task? How do you know he will be shit? Do you base your views on the popular comedy characters he has been known for? Do you act yourself? How is my statement about him becoming more famous since he died inappropriate?? That's the fact's Jack!! Like I said, I am much older and more realistic now so my point about it not really being important in the scheme of life stands!! You made your points initially (and in other threads) so why not just feel proud that the FM estate and RT and BM will read this and congratulate you for saving them from certain disaster and that FM will be seen as a white light walking on water! How the hell would you know what he would've wanted? Did you know him, hang with him?? NO!! C'mon, get real. |
| queenUSA 29.06.2012 06:01 |
master marathon runner wrote: calm down dear! If anyone has any doubts about SBC's abilities, just watch him in Sweeney Todd opposite Johnny Depp. You'll be pleasantly surprised and reassured.He is more than capable. Trust me.I've not seen Sweeney Todd but will check it out now that you've mentioned it to hopefully see another dimension of SBC. I think most people in the U.S. - all they know SBC for is Borat, the Dictator and other over the top roles. Hugo was an example of something other than the usually ridiculous roles. The Dictator was more his usual fare. Tom Cruise is out in a new movie right now called Rock of Ages where he portrays rocker Stacie Jaxx. A bit weird to set aside previous Cruise characters to see him in this way. He did a good job with it. Maybe even a great job with it. |
| Queenfred 29.06.2012 08:08 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote: Even spiderman and superman are characters based upon real humans with real human reactions and everyday interactions, and reality based emotional responses to real , even if , fictionalised situations. Ummmm... so the situations are fictional -but Spiderman and Superman are real? (yeah, cheap shot I know -but you sound like you need to get down from that pedestal for a minute) Dude, wait for the film (if it ever happens). Rubbishing Barrons performance before you've seen it is pointless- and makes your argument logically redundant- whatever your feelings about his acting. And besides, 5ive was much more of a travesty to Queens legacy |
| thomasquinn 32989 29.06.2012 08:10 |
I'm starting to have a nagging suspicion that TS is so angry because *he* wasn't asked to play Freddie. |
| thomasquinn 32989 29.06.2012 08:12 |
So, to sum up: AIDS is a hoax, Freddie was murdered by some French scientist, Sacha Baron Cohen is out to gang-rape Freddie's legacy with all his alter egos, Superman and Spiderman are real people fighting the New World Order and the sun isn't yellow, it's chicken. |
| Queenfred 29.06.2012 08:43 |
It was a lovely chicken this morning... |
| splicksplack 29.06.2012 09:57 |
Don't get sucked in by MADUSA. He's already been in trouble on QOL. He's mental. |
| Wiley 29.06.2012 20:46 |
Medusa is obviously this Kapone guy self promoting himself. He might even do enough noise online to be mentioned in an unreliable Web news site. This is somewhat common. Around the time Daniel Craig was cast as James Bond there was a rumour that made the headlines with some nobody called "something" Travolta who set up a Website with head shots of him as James Bond. Even after Craig was cast there was some note here saying this guy had rejected the role (claiming he was John Travolta's cousin) - some news Websites actually reported it was John Travolta who had rejected the role. |
| MEDUSA-RULES 07.07.2012 03:51 |
many many people, thinking people, despise sacha baron cohen because of the movie he wrote called Borat. These people have real serious reasons for disliking him for that movie. Many just think he is crap anyway, but the majority of conscious humans on this plant know he is not a serious actor, and not the type of perfomer you would want to portray anyone in a serious movie , especially not in a movie about someone as much loved and respected as the seriosly great musician, Freddie Mercury. The is how Roger Taylor said he wants Freddie to be remeMbered, "As a seriously great musician' For Queen to pick such a devisive a man to portray Freddie, openly & obviously , and confrontationally works against the kind of respect of Freddie as a serious musician that Roger says he wants for Freddie. The real success of a movie, is not only based upon tickets sold but on how it is received when watched , Is It recieved as something that can be taken as a truly serious effort to make a movie with the kind of respectful and serious treatment Freddie's life story deserves? Many people seem to be under a kind of mysterious spell. they seem to be seeing Freddie as the kind of one dimensional character that sacha Baron cohen portrays. They dont seem to understand that a serious treatment of a persons life cannot work if the character is one dimensional. Or that a serious film does not preclude a need for a boring serious film that has a complete lack of humour. On the contrary, a film with a one dimensional actor will result in a total bore of a movie and will be embarassingly cringingly horrible to watch. Sacha Barons Cohen specializes in one dimensional characters and his acting skill matches that one dimension. For Freddie to be remebered a a seriously good musician , takes a character study not a one dimensional goofy attempt at a humourous portrayal by a bad actor such as Sacha Baron Cohen. A real character portrayal will need and will include a rounded and real version of a person, both the humour and the serious. Many many people did not believe it was true that sacha was going to play Freddie in the movie, they thought Queen would never allow such a thing. There are numerous concrete good reasons why people thought Queen would never allow such a thing. one being, no one would believe they would invest money on a movie about Freddie starring such a man. A man who is so obviously incapable of serious dramatic acting, and whos NAME is so controversial and who's work literally seriously hated by many. No one would think Queen, who repeatedly have stated they want to protect Freddie's image and legacy, would chose such an obviously devisive and unqualified person to portray the friend they say they seek to PROTECT. It is was with shock we found out they seriously conceded to this. I speak on behalf of millions. The factual silent majority. |
| MEDUSA-RULES 07.07.2012 03:55 |
master marathon runner wrote: calm down dear! If anyone has any doubts about SBC's abilities, just watch him in Sweeney Todd opposite Johnny Depp. You'll be pleasantly surprised and reassured.He is more than capable. Trust me.He is atrocious! |
| MEDUSA-RULES 07.07.2012 04:06 |
Holly2003 wrote: This is one of those "I may not know much about art but I know what I hate" topics and clearly Medusa-whatever hates Sasha. And now that he's made that point a number of times in the short time he's been here, perhaps he would now stfu about it and move onto something else.Actually that is not true, i think he is good at what he does with the Borat character, i have my objections to his racism in choosing to ape a real people though. But i think his comedy is quite good. But i have no doubts that because of his lack of acting range , his persona born of his borat success ,and the fact many people dislike him, his age , how he looks his height and attitude in as far as being able to take directions from others, the lack of scope of his acting mind which is self evident already- and how he can not look at a character or the camera and bring the truth in his eyes, shows he has no ability to truly act in a way that will be convincing or good. i know therefore- that he is a disastrous choice for the portrayal and telling of Freddie and his life story. and matt This movie is going to portay Freddie on the screen for time in memorial it is not about a queen movie score, or a video with real queen in it. |
| zephead2112 07.07.2012 05:28 |
Dominic Cooper. |
