| Biggzy10 10.06.2012 10:36 |
Favorite moment, bridge, harmony, vocal, lyric, transition, guitar solo. ANYTHING! And please dont turn this into a favorite lyric post or favorite song post. Those are so overdone. |
| kosimodo 10.06.2012 13:41 |
Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music. |
| kosimodo 10.06.2012 13:41 |
Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music. |
| kosimodo 10.06.2012 13:41 |
Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music. |
| waunakonor 10.06.2012 14:37 |
Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music. |
| waunakonor 10.06.2012 14:39 |
Seriously, though, I think I'll go with the guitar solo of White Queen. Beautiful |
| tcc 10.06.2012 16:55 |
The drum solo in the Keep Yourself Alive video and the guitar solo after the "it is better to burn out than to fade away" in the song "Gimme The Prize". |
| waunakonor 10.06.2012 23:19 |
How about acoustic guitar solo/You can be anything you want to be/electric guitar solo in Innuendo? I just love that. |
| MEDUSA-RULES 10.06.2012 23:52 |
i like the guitar zooming in on prophets song |
| MEDUSA-RULES 10.06.2012 23:55 |
waunakonor wrote: Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music.whats that? you mean the piano/ guitar bit |
| bago.vidovic 11.06.2012 04:35 |
Guitar solo with the bearly hearable piano in Now i'm here |
| matt z 11.06.2012 04:59 |
Off the top of my head, it used to be the solo in "you take my breath away", the last verse on "white man" "skin and bones!!"... Or the guitar swell in "all dead all dead"... Then there was the high part of "who wants to live forever" where freddie "sold" the passion of "and Weee....can LOOOOOOoOove FOREVER...forever....is our today"... Some incredible dramatic spikes that just take you on a culminating passionate run... Gotta love Queen. Whether it was Brian, Freddie or Roger...they all took you there... John himself is the master of "you and I", "the millionaire waltz" and the supremely underrated bass licks in "I'm Going Slightly Mad".... Incredible band. They are...time and time again. Tested..... ...The shit. ;) |
| ITSM 11.06.2012 06:14 |
Houston '77 The transition from Get Down Make Love to The Millionaire Waltz. The piano in You Take My Breath Away - Beautyful! |
| GratefulFan 11.06.2012 06:30 |
There are many, but what comes first to mind is the intro of It's Late. The whole song is pretty much perfect mind. NOTW in general was an embarassment of riches for songs with immediate, early hooks. |
| MadTheSwine73 11.06.2012 08:44 |
The chorus in Mad The Swine, or the piano for the "Mamma" part in Bohemian Rhapsody. |
| horse feathers 11.06.2012 08:46 |
My Fairy King, for me. The double vocal part. 'He rules the air and turns the tides' part. Just fantasic in my opinion. |
| croatiafan 11.06.2012 09:16 |
"I'll face it with a grin, I'm never giving in OOOOOOOOOOON WITH THE SHOOOOW"! When the piano at the end of The Prophet's song fades into the introduction for Love of my life. |
| Flash Jazz 11.06.2012 09:16 |
After the guitar solo in White Queen, after the drums have come in you hear the guitar on the right "dun dun du-du-du du dun dun duu duuuu" SO AWESOME! Hope you know what I mean xD |
| waunakonor 11.06.2012 09:49 |
Another one: In Was it All Worth It?, the "Yes, it was a worthwhile experience!" to the end of the song. I was absolutely blown away when I first heard that part, how the guitar riff suddenly got really loud and epic again and Freddie closing out the song with his affirmation that it was worth it makes this possibly Queen's best climax in my opinion, and the very end is a beautiful revisiting of the riff. The buildup was a little weird at times, but that just makes the song that much more magical.
Soooo...yeah
matt z wrote: Incredible band. They are...time and time again. Tested..... ...The shit. ;)Hear hear, brotha'. :D MEDUSA-RULES wrote:lol, I don't know, I'm not the one who wrote thatwaunakonor wrote: Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music.whats that? you mean the piano/ guitar bit |
| waunakonor 11.06.2012 09:50 |
:P |
| MEDUSA-RULES 11.06.2012 12:05 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote: waunakonor wrote: Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music. MEDUSA-RULES wrote whats that? you mean the piano/ guitar bit waunakonor wrote lol, I don't know, I'm not the one who wrote that end quote you mean you didnt write the song or the message? |
| waunakonor 11.06.2012 13:30 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote: MEDUSA-RULES wrote: waunakonor wrote: Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music. MEDUSA-RULES wrote whats that? you mean the piano/ guitar bit waunakonor wrote lol, I don't know, I'm not the one who wrote that end quote you mean you didnt write the song or the message?The message. kosimodo wrote it originally. Three different times. |
| kosimodo 11.06.2012 15:59 |
Sorry for those double posts! My android got slow... And sorry for not being clear enough. I would thing you lot would know which part i ment. I ment ofcourse the part in save me from 2.25 til 2.37, i always think it is stunning. |
| david (galashiels) 11.06.2012 16:39 |
the last bit of .its late......its all to laaaaaaaaaaate.drumm roll then hard rocking. |
| brENsKi 11.06.2012 17:14 |
the very last 1000th of a second of "Yeah" |
| Missreclusive 11.06.2012 19:13 |
1975 H.O. concert medley transitions..perfect. The way Freddie rolls his rrrr's "rrrrisky" in ITLOTGs revisited. Brians guitar, anytime, anyplace and for however long. I head bang in the car to the drums on Somebody to Love. (try not to in heavy traffic) |
| panasonic 12.06.2012 02:09 |
Mystical interlude in save me... Fantastic piece of music. |
| Wijnand 12.06.2012 02:14 |
The guitar intro of Tie Your Mother Down... |
| matt z 12.06.2012 03:51 |
brENsKi wrote: the very last 1000th of a second of "Yeah"Yeah! (no pun intended) That whole bit leaves me craving more, and the emphasis on and ESSENCE of the role it plays in spatial existence is frighteningly deliberate. The summation of one man's art and craft and life, it really could have been overdone in another person's hands. I just think it could have done without so much CHORUSING saturation (the effect) A complete mood shift. But I've heard the last track as a whole was left off the vinyl BRILLIANT call! (Assuming you're referring to the digital edition and the fraction of a second where it can be clearly discerned that the original vocal master has just ended) |
| ludwigs 12.06.2012 03:51 |
croatiafan wrote: When the piano at the end of The Prophet's song fades into the introduction for Love of my life.There is no piano in The Prophets Song. It's 2 guitars.....then after the loud crash an acoustic guitar and 2 toy koto parts |
| matt z 12.06.2012 04:05 |
ludwigs wrote:Oh PLEASE let this be an extensive Queenzone argument, I love to read people bicker about it all.croatiafan wrote: When the piano at the end of The Prophet's song fades into the introduction for Love of my life.There is no piano in The Prophets Song. It's 2 guitars.....then after the loud crash an acoustic guitar and 2 toy koto parts Personally CROATIANFAN, I agree with you. It sounds like a double take of an acoustic harmonic, or maybe even simply a strong note. The piano comes in on LOML. It IS f-ng beautiful though, aint it? Could someone please wake up Roy Thomas Baker and ask him if there's a faded in or out piano note that was sent to the masters? For years I never heard the "vibes/xylophone" at the end of "You're my Best Friend"... It took DTS remixing to bring it to light....how strange I thought. I'd been hearing that album for years. (Often playing along with it) |
| Amazon 12.06.2012 06:09 |
Three of my favourite parts: (These are not my three favourite parts, but rather three of them.) 1)Brian's vocal contribution to Keep Yourself Alive. It sounds like he has a cold, and so is a little weird, however it also makes it wonderful. Queen was always focused on perfection, however to feature Brian's imperfect voice went against this, and so is my favourite part of Keep Yourself Alive. :D 2)Roger's vocal contribution to The March of the Black Queen. Freddie had a voice that, during the 70's, was never particularly tough (unlike for example I Want It All), and for Roger to come in on TMOTBQ with his gruff voice made TMOTBQ, already a masterpiece, all the more sweeter. 3)The 'ready Freddie' from Crazy Little Thing Called Love. I just love that, I think it's a really nice moment. |
| MrFunster 12.06.2012 08:40 |
Yeah, (track 13 from made in heaven) |
| sokerplair 12.06.2012 10:07 |
The end of the bbc version of Spread Your Wings. I love it because you can feel all four get into the song real well. |
| eiddref 12.06.2012 10:09 |
Oh rock of ages, do not crumble. Love is breathing still. |
| Flash Jazz 12.06.2012 10:56 |
I'm surprised no-one has said the flamenco part of Innuendo |
| Hangman_96 12.06.2012 11:06 |
Guitar solo in Killer Queen. |
| malicedoom 12.06.2012 14:45 |
Just off the top of my head: - The instrumental / guitar section of 'Scandal' - The guitar solo in 'These Are the Days of our Lives' |
| Dane 13.06.2012 08:27 |
The bridge in 'You and I' where suddenly it all goes into minor! Masterfull! |
| mooghead 13.06.2012 10:53 |
I do quite like it when one of them pops up in a song being sung by someone else - Freddie in Sweet Sister, Roger in Black Queen etc... |
| Heavenite 14.06.2012 06:22 |
Great thread! I recognise and really like just about all the bits of songs mentioned here. For me its two bits of "Mother Love" that are incredible. Firstly Freddie singing "Momma please let me back inside". All about the safety of mother's womb. And then right at the end of the song Freddie sings "I think I'm going back to the things I learned so well in my youth" - which of course are the first words he sung as Larry Lurex on Goin' Back (ie the b-side of "I Can Hear Music") which was written by Goffin and King and was made famous by Dusty Springfield. So maybe Freddie recorded the b-side first and those words were the first he sang on a published recording. That's then followed by the sounds of Freddie's life on fast backwards reverse from the end all the way back to the start and the cry (of him? as) a baby and possibly even the womb before that. Wow!! |
| waunakonor 14.06.2012 19:59 |
The transition between Death on Two Legs and Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon on A Night at the Opera.
Flash Jazz wrote: I'm surprised no-one has said the flamenco part of InnuendoI did. |
| Heavenite 15.06.2012 00:30 |
The transition from Party to Khashoggi's Ship is also one of my favourites. |
| Levon Thyme 16.06.2012 00:13 |
The vocal pileups! "Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh explode!" from Don't Stop Me Now "Make my way!" from Dragon Attack Final extra "It's late" (s) from It's Late "leave it for some hopeless lane" from Long Away Many more. |
| mooghead 16.06.2012 07:22 |
"The transition from Party to Khashoggi's Ship is also one of my favourites." Really? It has to be the clunkiest, clumsiest piece of production in the whole catalogue |
| Heavenite 16.06.2012 09:35 |
Each to their own I guess. I just love it and have for years, whatever the technical merits of it are. For me it keeps the energy up high going from Party into Khashoggi's Ship. Just on your point about different singers on songs, I do like the use of different vocalists too, be it within songs or on different songs on the same album. Although there seems to have been a lot less of Brian and Roger singing on later Queen albums. I can't even think of one line that Bri or Rog sings on Innuendo. Haven't heard the Roger version of Ride the Wild Wind though so I don't know if that would have been a good alternative to Freddie's vocal. Maybe just a verse from Rog would have been good. |
| mooghead 16.06.2012 10:17 |
link |
| tomchristie22 16.06.2012 21:35 |
Heavenite wrote: I can't even think of one line that Bri or Rog sings on Innuendo. Haven't heard the Roger version of Ride the Wild Wind though so I don't know if that would have been a good alternative to Freddie's vocal. Maybe just a verse from Rog would have been good.But Roger DOES sing lines in Ride The Wild Wind. 'Push the envelope - don't sit on the fence' and 'Live life on the razor's edge'. I don't know if you overlooked that or just didn't consider it a line that he sang, which is fair enough because it's spoken. |
| Heavenite 20.06.2012 04:27 |
mooghead wrote: link Nice version Mooghead. Very enlightening. Thanks for that. |
| Heavenite 20.06.2012 04:39 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Heavenite wrote: I can't even think of one line that Bri or Rog sings on Innuendo. Haven't heard the Roger version of Ride the Wild Wind though so I don't know if that would have been a good alternative to Freddie's vocal. Maybe just a verse from Rog would have been good. But Roger DOES sing lines in Ride The Wild Wind. 'Push the envelope - don't sit on the fence' and 'Live life on the razor's edge'. I don't know if you overlooked that or just didn't consider it a line that he sang, which is fair enough because it's spoken. Hi tom You are right on both counts. I did overlook Roger's contribution to Ride the Wild Wind. However had I recalled it, I would have probably overlooked anyway because, as you say, it's spoken word. I can say that because I remember ignoring Roger's spoken word contributions on The Invisible Man when I was reviewing the contributions of other band members on later albums. Roger's version sounds cool and a verse or a line or two might have added a bit more variety to the song and worked really well. Having said that, its great to hear Roger's version after all of these years and its not half bad in my opinion. |
| eYe 21.06.2012 01:29 |
The best moment to me happened only once, when I saw the Kharkov video for the first time, when Brian played Bijou and Freddie appeared on the screen. |
| john bodega 21.06.2012 02:49 |
"Really? It has to be the clunkiest, clumsiest piece of production in the whole catalogue" Except for the 2 songs themselves. Hadn't heard that Roger version of Ride the Wild Wind yet. It's kickin'. I can see why they maybe didn't want to take any lead vocals on Freddie's last full album, and I'm not sure the drum groove at the start needed to go on for so long, but it's awesome to listen to. |
| Holly2003 21.06.2012 03:33 |
Too many moments to pick one but some that always give me a lift are: Oh Rock of Ages -- from Brighton Rock. The isolated multitrack version of this is awesome. And also in Brighton Rock, the power chords Brian hits right after the Rock of Ages section. He plays them just behind (or ahead?) of Roger's beat. Simple stuff, but used to great effect. Sounds really heavy. Fred singing the bridge on Sail Away Sweet Sister The melodic acousitc guitar section in Save Me. But of course no single moment in the Queen catalogue comes close to this bit of Rush's Tom Sawyer. link at 2 mins 32 seconds in. :) |
| Silken 21.06.2012 13:48 |
The snare drum in Innuendo. I get goosebumps everytime. The intro of Death On Two Legs. Beautiful. |
| ITSM 22.06.2012 05:22 |
The last verse in "Drowse", is also great! The lyrics are so good, and he sings it in a cool way. |
| br5946 22.06.2012 10:37 |
The guitar solo and the bass coda in Going Slightly Mad, the bass intro in Under Pressure, the flamenco section of Innuendo which then leads into Brian's solo (already mentioned on this thread), the guitar hook in the single version of Flash right before 'Gordon's alive!', the brass and woodwind bit in Seaside Rendezvous, the metal section of Doin' Alright, the drum machines on Rain Must Fall, the second verse of Mother Love (esp. the Red Special chord at 1:28 and Freddie belting that high note at 1:53), the piano entering on It's A Beautiful Day, the guitar solo on Soul Brother, the 'come back, come back to me' section of Millionaire Waltz before it gets heavy, the list goes on! |
| br5946 22.06.2012 10:38 |
The guitar solo and the bass coda in Going Slightly Mad, the bass intro in Under Pressure, the flamenco section of Innuendo which then leads into Brian's solo (already mentioned on this thread), the guitar hook in the single version of Flash right before 'Gordon's alive!', the brass and woodwind bit in Seaside Rendezvous, the metal section of Doin' Alright, the drum machines on Rain Must Fall, the second verse of Mother Love (esp. the Red Special chord at 1:28 and Freddie belting that high note at 1:53), the piano entering on It's A Beautiful Day, the guitar solo on Soul Brother, the 'come back, come back to me' section of Millionaire Waltz before it gets heavy, the list goes on! |
| purplepiepete 22.06.2012 12:21 |
well whenever i bought a new queen lp, on the first spin i listened out in particular for brian's solos, so i guess they must be my favourite part of a queen song. the other one are the vocal harmonies. |
| Flash Jazz 23.06.2012 08:53 |
ITSM wrote: The last verse in "Drowse", is also great! The lyrics are so good, and he sings it in a cool way.Drowse is my favourite song, means so much to me |
| Flash Jazz 23.06.2012 08:54 |
John's bassline in Millionaire Waltz, it's amazing |
| waunakonor 23.06.2012 20:21 |
Heavenite wrote: tomchristie22 wrote: Heavenite wrote: I can't even think of one line that Bri or Rog sings on Innuendo. Haven't heard the Roger version of Ride the Wild Wind though so I don't know if that would have been a good alternative to Freddie's vocal. Maybe just a verse from Rog would have been good. But Roger DOES sing lines in Ride The Wild Wind. 'Push the envelope - don't sit on the fence' and 'Live life on the razor's edge'. I don't know if you overlooked that or just didn't consider it a line that he sang, which is fair enough because it's spoken. Hi tom You are right on both counts. I did overlook Roger's contribution to Ride the Wild Wind. However had I recalled it, I would have probably overlooked anyway because, as you say, it's spoken word. I can say that because I remember ignoring Roger's spoken word contributions on The Invisible Man when I was reviewing the contributions of other band members on later albums. Roger's version sounds cool and a verse or a line or two might have added a bit more variety to the song and worked really well. Having said that, its great to hear Roger's version after all of these years and its not half bad in my opinion.I'm a bit surprised no one's mentioned that Brian's voice is quite prominent in parts of I Can't Live With You (I can't live with you, I can't live with you, I can't live, I can't live, I can't live with you) The Hitman (Hitmaaaaaann...) and The Show Must Go On (Learning, learning...turning, turning). I like the guitar intro and outro of The Night Comes Down, and how the end of that outro seems to sort of flow into the opening chords of Modern Times. Matt Z mentioned the last chorus of Forever. I too like that part, but my favorite is the VERY last time they sing "Who wants to live forever?" and hearing Brian's backing vocals there. They're very powerful, but it took me a while to notice them. Brian really had some great sounding backing vocals Case in point: the songs mentioned earlier. Whoa, I just took two different points regarding unrelated topics and connected them. That's a very well-written comment in my opinion. I'm proud of it. |
| Heavenite 24.06.2012 09:08 |
Hi waunakonor Nice pickup, although most of those are harmonies, as opposed to lead vocals, aren't they? So its sort of right I guess, but not quite the same as a lead vocal, I wouldn't think. Its a a matter of how you view it I guess. |
| waunakonor 24.06.2012 15:33 |
Heavenite wrote: Hi waunakonor Nice pickup, although most of those are harmonies, as opposed to lead vocals, aren't they? So its sort of right I guess, but not quite the same as a lead vocal, I wouldn't think. Its a a matter of how you view it I guess.In that bit of I Can't Live, it's just Brian singing--Freddie's not doing anything--so I would consider that a brief lead vocal, even if that's not technically what it is. I don't know, I guess you're right, it depends how you see it. Brian's voice sounds very nice on that album, though. Oh, I can't believe I never mentioned the part of Black Queen when it suddenly gets all soft. A voice from behind me reminds me.... |
| Heavenite 25.06.2012 03:23 |
In any case, Brian's voice is very nice on that album. Actually, it makes me wonder why its Brian like that. I wonder if they still needed to do multiple overdubs in 1991. If so, maybe it was a case of Freddie not overdoing it given his health situation. On the other hand, it may just be they thought Brian's vocals sounded better in the parts of those particular songs for some reason. To provide contrast to Freddie's vocal in the verses maybe? Having said all that, I still think the point I was trying to make, that Brian and Rog take more of a back seat on later albums is still largely true despite the bits here and there that they did contribute. |
| goose44 25.06.2012 09:25 |
Guitar solo in Ride the Wild Wind. Best mini solo ever done! |
| goose44 25.06.2012 09:55 |
Someone mentioned in White Quees att he end of the acoustic solo, then the thrashing dun dun with Roger then the Brian solo. That part is o clear and smashing. Love it. In It's late the last chorus of It's late. It's late, It's late , It's late It's late, It's late It's late It's late. Plus the final It's late, the 1 second extension of lateeee is pure gold. |
| Fat Bottomed Queen 25.08.2015 10:39 |
Spanish guitar in Innuendo. |
| Sebastian 25.08.2015 10:57 |
link |
| Fat Bottomed Queen 25.08.2015 14:28 |
Sebastian wrote: linkAwesome channel. I'll try to watch all of them videos tonight. |
| Day dop 25.08.2015 17:44 |
There's loads, but here's a few... The "When I'm gone..." part in Teo Torriate. Rogers drum solo in Dragon attack. If there's one track that'll give you goosebumps, it's TSMGO, and these parts in particular... "My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends" .... Then the later part... "I'll face it with a grin, I'm never giving in, on - with the show - I'll top the bill, I'll overkill, I have to find the will to carry on (On with the - On with the show) - The show must go on..." Freddie's "Yeaaah" at 3:04 on Save me. John's bass on Liar from 5:00 onwards. The "Out in the city, in the cold world outside I don't want pity, just safe place to hide" part on Mother Love. Brian's guitar solo in Hammer to fall. That note/chord (whatever you call it) at 2:15 is the classic May sound. The "But now you can kiss - my ass goodbye" line on Death On Two Legs. Was It All Worth It, Brian's solo and when it goes into USS Enterprise battle mode at 3:59 onwards. |
| Day dop 25.08.2015 18:09 |
Heavenite wrote: The transition from Party to Khashoggi's Ship is also one of my favourites.That's excellent. |
| Holly2003 25.08.2015 18:19 |
Day dop wrote: There's loads, but here's a few... The "When I'm gone..." part in Teo Torriate. Rogers drum solo in Dragon attack. Then of course, The Show Must Go On. "My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends" .... Then the later part... "I'll face it with a grin, I'm never giving in, on - with the show - I'll top the bill, I'll overkill, I have to find the will to carry on (On with the - On with the show) - The show must go on..." ^ If there's one track that'll give you goosebumps, it's TSMGO, and that part in particular.Yep to all of those. However, there are so many of these great moments -- usually at least one in almost every song -- it's hard to pick only a few. But I would add: The stereo vocals "woh woh woh explode!" in DSMN, which was what got me into Queen. Brian's solo on Back Chat. Perfect. Brian's fills in Flick of the Wrist. Brian's solo in Soul Brother. Brian's solo in The Hero Flash Gordon Battle Theme -- when the first huge guitar riff kicks in. The "Welsh male voice choir" in Brighton Rock, particularly the "Oh rock of ages" section. Brian's jazz orchestra in Good Company, particularly the second half of the song. "Jimi Hendrix, yeah he was good." |
| Bike It 80 25.08.2015 22:02 |
The guitar solo in WWRY, I just LOVE that guitar sound! The end of Doing Alright with the crunchy guitar sound The guitar solo at the end of ITLOTG The "dixieland orchestra" guitar solo at the end of Good Company, that's pure genius The drums, bass and guitar solos in Dragon Attack The bass at the end of Sail Away Sweet Sister and Freddie's lines before the guitar solo The "Insanity laughs under pressure we're cracking" part in Under Pressure The pre-solo bridge in SSOR ("Sister - I live and lie for you..."), the ending of the solo with the guitar echoing and the "BAM! Storm the master-marathon..." Bicycle Race's a capella intro and the bridge ("Bicycle races are coming your way...") The bass line in AKOM The guitar solo in Put Out The Fire The over the top guitar solo in The Invisible Man The "You can be anything you want to be" part in Innuendo The heartfelt guitar solo in TATDOOL The little piano improvisation at the beginning of Spread Your Wings on Live Killers And the oft-mentionned bridge in Brighton Rock ("Oh, rock of ages...") So, basically, a lot of bridges and guitar solos! |
| tomchristie22 25.08.2015 22:07 |
All the people (mostly in 2005) saying that Queen's use of fade-outs was a cop-out for a lack of good endings to their songs ... they all had full endings in the live versions, so it obviously wasn't beyond their capabilities or efforts by any means. It would have been an artistic choice whenever they used a fade out. |
| noorie 25.08.2015 22:30 |
I love the ending of White Man. The part where it is just Brian's guitar, then a second of silence, and then Freddie singing 'What is left....' Ultra dramatic! In Brighton Rock, 'There's still a little MAGIC in the air'. I love the way Freddie does the word 'magic'. Just a tiny thing, but it stands out. |
| Bike It 80 26.08.2015 15:12 |
Forgot one (how could I !!) : In Tie Your Mother Down, in the choruses, some of the "down" come in earlier than the others, they're not all tight. I like the kind of "live" feel it gives to the song, since usually the backing vocals are so tight they're near perfect. |
| KJ 26.08.2015 15:44 |
The piano ending in Let me live, The intro of Fight from the inside, The BBC version of Nevermore, the part when the drum starts, The way Freddie sings "gentle rain beating beatin' on my face" in A winters tale, These are the first that come to mind.... |
| brENsKi 26.08.2015 16:37 |
British Man wrote: Spanish guitar in Innuendo.strange that you choose the one piece of Queen guitar work that ISN'T Brian May playing |
| Sebastian 26.08.2015 18:05 |
brENsKi wrote:Actually, Brian does play most of it.British Man wrote: Spanish guitar in Innuendo.strange that you choose the one piece of Queen guitar work that ISN'T Brian May playing First iteration is just Dr May except the chromatic run at the very end. Second iteration is mostly Dr May (harmonising with himself) until Steve takes over for the fills in the end (when the metre changes). Third iteration is Steve indeed. |
| brENsKi 27.08.2015 13:41 |
i think you're nitpicking - you know the point that i'm making: of all the great guitar solos/pieces Brian played - one gets chosen that's not recognisable for Brian's playing per se - moreover, for the flamenco skills of Steve Howe ++++++++++++++++++++ “Brian had his shot with it and had done what he’d wanted to do with it but thought that someone else could race about with it and add some excitement to those structures,” Howe tells Chronicle Live. “They jokingly said I could do a bit of [iconic Spanish flamenco guitarist] Paco De Lucia with it. I could see what they were after so I did some improvising and they loved it. I was so proud to be on that record.” Innuendo Guitars: All electric guitars are played on the Red Special plugged directly into the desk. Effects are by Zoom. All guitars are played by Brian, with the exception of the solo guitar in the flamenco-part, which is done by Steve Howe. |
| Sebastian 27.08.2015 19:35 |
brENsKi wrote: i think you're nitpickingI agree to disagree. brENsKi wrote: one gets chosen that's not recognisable for Brian's playing per se - moreover, for the flamenco skills of Steve HoweExcept that the bit that most people recognise is indeed played by Brian. brENsKi wrote: Innuendo Guitars: All electric guitars are played on the Red Special plugged directly into the desk. Effects are by Zoom. All guitars are played by Brian, with the exception of the solo guitar in the flamenco-part, which is done by Steve Howe.That's from an analysis done about a decade and a half ago. It was very good considering what was available at the time, but technology and research march on and now there's far more available information, which allows us to conclude much more accurately that, as I wrote earlier: First iteration is just Dr May except the chromatic run at the very end. Second iteration is mostly Dr May (harmonising with himself) until Steve takes over for the fills in the end (when the metre changes). Third iteration is Steve indeed. There's not just one solo guitar in the flamenco part, but instead three of them: Brian plays two of them, Steve plays the other one. |
| brENsKi 28.08.2015 01:30 |
Sebastian, i haven't disagreed with you - regardless of what was there before it Steve came along - his final touches gave the song it's true flamenco feel - all i have said is that the solo is recognisable for Steve Howe's playing something backed up by comments by Steve and Brian |
| Sebastian 28.08.2015 06:49 |
Well, I do disagree. Steve's final touches, magnificent as they were, added up to the flamenco feel it already had. I hope, should multi's or stems ever leak/surface, I can make a Howe-less remix of the song one day, and in my opinion it retains ca. 80% of its flamenco feel, even without his bits. Moreover, I'd argue that, subjectively, I think the most memorable aspect of that solo is the transposed motif, which is the one played by Brian (twice), rather than the chromatic run and the third iteration, which are the best part of the song (in my opinion) but which are not as widely recognised, and those are the bits Steve played. |
| tcc 28.08.2015 07:27 |
Sebastian - can you please use a youtube video and put the time of the parts that you have mentioned so that we can hear it specifically ? Thank you. |
| Fat Bottomed Queen 28.08.2015 08:06 |
I'd go as far as calling Innuendo the best thing I have heard. it has everything, But my favorite thing is the spanish guitar. It's not to exclude may, though. I love the Guitar work in The Prophet's Song. Also the wah-wah solo in Great King Rat. |
| The King Of Rhye 28.08.2015 08:20 |
Hmm....I got a few I never really hear anyone talking about....the little piano part at about 2:04 in We Are The Champions, for one. Just a simple little lick, but I always really liked that for some reason. :D Also, I guess it'd be Brian's version of that, the riff in Father To Son, right after "take it sonny, hold it high". It never repeats in the song, but it just kicks butt....for about a few seconds. ...and the drum fill after the guitar solo in Tenement Funster. Like the other ones I said, simple but so effective. Hmm, not sure what would be John's example of such a thing, might have to do some further research on that.... |
| Oscar J 28.08.2015 08:48 |
Yes, that Father to Son bit is great! It incorporates that bluesy tritone interval that Brian seemed fond of in the early 70's. The Brighton Rock lick (the on he does two times in the beginning of the solo part) is another prominent example. |
| Sebastian 29.08.2015 10:29 |
tcc wrote: Sebastian - can you please use a youtube video and put the time of the parts that you have mentioned so that we can hear it specifically ? Thank you.link 3.31 - 3.40: There are two lead guitars (playing the solo in octaves) and a rhythm one (strumming chords in the background). Brian's playing all three, no Steve involvement yet. 3.41 - 3.43: Steve adds one guitar doing a two-octave+ chromatic run (ascending).It finishes at 3.43 and Brian's left alone again. 3.44 - 3.46: Brian's playing all three guitars again, but this time the two solo guitars are in thirds rather than octaves. 3.47 - 3.49: Steve adds an ornament, but he's still not doing the lead. 3.50 - 3.53: Brian's left alone again and he's playing all three. 3.54 - 4.04: There are two solo parts going on at the same time. Brian's doing the 'easy one' (same melody as the first and second solos) and Steve's doing the more technically demanding one, which finishes on a descending chromatic run. Brian's also doing the rhythm bit there (strummed). 4.05 - 4.08: Brian's left on his own and finishes it off (and he also adds a three-part electric harmony in the background). The whole bit lasts 38 seconds, out of which 21 (55.26%) are exclusively Brian, 6 (15.79%) feature Steve adding ornaments to Brian's lead and the remaining 11 (28.95%) have the two of them playing lead (plus Brian doing rhythm as well). |
| Oscar J 29.08.2015 13:10 |
The "run" at 4:02 doesn't sound very chromatic to me. Interesting breakdown though - where did you find all this information? |
| mooghead 29.08.2015 13:15 |
At 1.45 of My Fairy King Queen at the Beeb version is an awesome little piece of guitar for only a few seconds that isnt on the album version but is just great. |
| Sebastian 29.08.2015 13:20 |
Oscar J wrote: The "run" at 4:02 doesn't sound very chromatic to me. Interesting breakdown though - where did you find all this information?Which information? The times? That's thanks to the fact YouTube's got a little menu on each video: on the bottom left corner there's a button to pause or resume, then one to go to the next one, one to either mute or change volume and then they inform you how long it's been since the video started and when it's gonna end. |
| Oscar J 29.08.2015 13:28 |
Cute master suppression techniques you've got there. Forget that I asked. |
| Sebastian 29.08.2015 14:55 |
British Man wrote: But my favorite thing is the spanish guitar. It's not to exclude may, though.It doesn't exclude him, since on roughly 71% of it he's the only one playing the lead, and on the remaining 29% of it he's dueting with Steve. |
| mooghead 29.08.2015 16:12 |
About 23% of things I say on the internet are classed as 'ok'. The other 47% is made up by a self loving 'expert', the other 68% no one could care about, the remaining 28% is just cat videos. I am better than you because my life is so empty I have the time to percentagise what I do with my life. I just made up a new word. I am better than you. So says 100% of my ego. |
| Sebastian 29.08.2015 16:42 |
mooghead wrote: About 23% of things I say on the internet are classed as 'ok'. The other 47% is made up by a self loving 'expert', the other 68% no one could care about, the remaining 28% is just cat videos. I am better than you because my life is so empty I have the time to percentagise what I do with my life. I just made up a new word. I am better than you. So says 100% of my ego.That's great, good for you. Also, you've just demonstrated you failed to do primary school maths. |
| mooghead 29.08.2015 16:59 |
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the world cares. The other 58% doesn't. |
| Sebastian 29.08.2015 17:30 |
mooghead wrote: 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the world cares. The other 58% doesn't.Actually, you seem to do, since you keep reading my posts. Thank you for making me such an important part of your life. |
| tcc 30.08.2015 07:57 |
Thanks for the response Sebastian. I tried to follow the music with your timing but it happens so fast that I cannot hear them separately :-) I think your point is also valid as I can feel the Spanish atmosphere in the solo performed by Brian at the 1992 tribute concert: link |
| Sebastian 30.08.2015 09:52 |
Maybe a good idea could be a fan recreation depicting what Brian played and what Steve played, similar to what some people do with Beatles vocals (e.g., link and link. It's not the same as actually having the stems or multi's (if they ever become available to begin with), but that'd be better than nothing. |
| Sebastian 01.09.2015 07:25 |
I downloaded a midi of the piece and modified it slightly to reflect what I think is on the record. It's obviously not even close to having the multi's or the stems but it's better than nothing and it can show which part is played by each of them. Also, I counted the notes played by the lead guitars on that flamenco bit: 613 (in such a short time), out of which 173 (28.22%) are played by Steve. Arguably, that's still the best 28.22% of the song :) But still, mathematically, Brian played 72.78% of the classical lead guitar, and 100% of the distorted lead guitar, so 'Innuendo' is still chiefly his input in terms of guitar playing. I guess I'll make a video for the file and put it on my YT channel. |
| Sebastian 01.09.2015 09:58 |
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| Sebastian 01.09.2015 10:00 |
There it is: First you hear the midi of the four guitars together. Then just Brian's strummed rhythm. Then the first of Brian's solo parts. Then the second of Brian's solo parts. Then Steve's part. Then the whole bit but without Steve (only Brian's parts). |
| Rami 01.09.2015 14:07 |
Excellent. That is 100% cool. Thank you very much for your effort, Sebastian! |
| Rami 01.09.2015 14:07 |
Excellent. That is 100% cool. Thank you very much for your effort, Sebastian! |
| Sebastian 14.04.2016 06:05 |
I remembered this thread while listening to this lovely TKQCS episode: link |
| Your Fairy King 19.04.2016 17:13 |
My favorite part will always be the bicycle bells followed by BM's dueling guitar battle then coming to an abrupt halt in Bicycle Race. |