GT 29.05.2012 13:06 |
New COMPLETE discography now available. Mon, May 28th, 2012 The new fully updated and complete fan club biography/discography is now available to buy. It has taken years of hard work by experts Jim Jenkins and Gary Taylor to ensure this book is accurate and totally complete, it features everything the band have ever done, including full solo discographies. It then took graphic designer Christoph Von Herrath months to design and lay out the text, including dealing with all the corrections and additions that Jim and Gary kept sending him! The result is a stunning little book (see pix below) that every Queen fan will want to own! Sadly the costs of producing this book mean I cannot send it out free with new memberships, but everyone has the opportunity to buy a copy. Prices, including postage and packing, are: UK - £11.50 Europe - £12.50 (€16) Rest Of The World - £13.50 (US $22.00) You can order by email (qfc@queenworld.com) or post to The Queen Fan Club, P.O.Box 141, West Horsley, Surrey, KT24 6AJ. Please ensure you give your name and address - you can pay by cheque, credit/debit card or Paypal. If you use a card 50p will be added to the cost of your order for bank charges. If you send a Paypal payment please add £1 to your payment to cover their fees. |
GT 29.05.2012 13:09 |
And the cover. |
mooghead 29.05.2012 13:15 |
Any chance of a glimpse of the layout of the inside pages? |
dysan 29.05.2012 14:28 |
I'm still annoyed I was only ever sent 1 quarterly magazine when I finally joined up back in '89, but I loved it to bits. |
GT 29.05.2012 15:38 |
Here you go: |
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JacquesDaniels 30.05.2012 03:34 |
There's no Seven Seas of Rhye on Queen II? =P |
dysan 30.05.2012 05:56 |
Oopsy. |
GT 30.05.2012 06:01 |
Thanks, yes we are aware of a few omissions that 'disappeared' in transaction. Not sure how or why, but they were in when we proof read the final draft. |
pittrek 30.05.2012 06:09 |
The book actually contains MUCH more errors. But it's still very interesting |
dekipema 30.05.2012 06:52 |
Is this book available to non-members of the fan club? |
cmsdrums 30.05.2012 07:33 |
You actually proof read the final draft? Blimey, there's a first! And you didn't then print one or two copies of the final version and proof read those again before printing 1,000's of them? I've used the word 'amateurs' too many times with every release recently that it's becoming boring... |
people on streets 30.05.2012 09:13 |
cmsdrums wrote: You actually proof read the final draft? Blimey, there's a first! And you didn't then print one or two copies of the final version and proof read those again before printing 1,000's of them? I've used the word 'amateurs' too many times with every release recently that it's becoming boring...Very valid comment if you ask me. |
AlexRocks 30.05.2012 10:20 |
There are many aspects of it looking really good. But it is very important for discographies to include running time for songs (perhaps a total running time for a particular type of release as well) and the year of release. It looks from the photo here that all of the music home videos don't have a year listed after them. Also in terms of sales for music releases I distinguish a number of things. How much something sold in a particular area of the world, i.e. the U.S. or worldwide, at the time of the project and or promotion and the totals at other important dates. One of the most important being the total thus far for the latest publication of a discography. |
shannaschaffer 30.05.2012 10:24 |
Thanks for all you do, Gary. I am really looking forward to getting my copy. |
Micrówave 30.05.2012 10:45 |
GT: Since it would cost me a absurd price of $22, can you answer a couple of questions? What do you mean when you say "Complete Discography"? Do you mean what you personally have in your collection? Because I have quite a few more Is this completely in Black & White?. If so, your choice of glossy paper was useless and the cost of printing should have been about 25% the price of full color. It must be like 200 pages, then, right? |
pittrek 30.05.2012 11:25 |
Microwave - as a person who has seen this book I dare to reply if you don't mind. B & W - yes, it's completely black & white. It has a very "cheap" look. "Complete" - well I would call it "almost complete" :-) Anyway, I haven't seen so much relevant information in a Queen book for a long time |
splicksplack 30.05.2012 12:00 |
"It then took graphic designer Christoph Von Herrath months to design and lay out the text" Hmmm..are you sure? I only ask because in some places the song titles are in UPPER CASE and in others in Upper and Lower Case. I can't find any info on size or page count but from the pics above I'm guessing at A5 and about 112 pages tops A design studio operative could type out the text in a day or two in Word. That file would then be flown into In-Design or Quark and a the layout done in a day. I'm sorry but "months" is bollocks. I work in the industry. And when I get back to work next week I'll run out a quote for print run of 1,000. I think you'll find your printer has ripped you off or the uplift put on it is ridiculous. |
GT 30.05.2012 13:47 |
dekipema wrote: Is this book available to non-members of the fan club?Hi dekipema, this booklet is available to non-fan club members. Just contact Jacky at the FC. |
GT 30.05.2012 13:51 |
cmsdrums wrote: You actually proof read the final draft? Blimey, there's a first! And you didn't then print one or two copies of the final version and proof read those again before printing 1,000's of them? I've used the word 'amateurs' too many times with every release recently that it's becoming boring...Once all the work had been done it was in Jacky's and the printers control. There wouldn't of been time to proof read a finished copy as they had to be at the convention asap. In fact they arrived on the Saturday morning, the second day of the convention. |
GT 30.05.2012 14:00 |
AlexRocks wrote: There are many aspects of it looking really good. But it is very important for discographies to include running time for songs (perhaps a total running time for a particular type of release as well) and the year of release. It looks from the photo here that all of the music home videos don't have a year listed after them. Also in terms of sales for music releases I distinguish a number of things. How much something sold in a particular area of the world, i.e. the U.S. or worldwide, at the time of the project and or promotion and the totals at other important dates. One of the most important being the total thus far for the latest publication of a discography.We really didn't want to add running times as it would of taken up much more space and using more pages than had been planned. We were told that 100 pages was the max, nearly double the amount to the last bio that came out 15 years ago. So it was a bit of a squeeze. It actually ended up with 104 pages as we wanted some pics in there to break up the type. There is no way we could of included sales figures for the reason above and much of that info is not known. All the releases have a release date including all the home videos and DVDs. |
GT 30.05.2012 14:02 |
shannaschaffer wrote: Thanks for all you do, Gary. I am really looking forward to getting my copy.Thanks shanna, much appreciated. I have receievd many emails, FB and PM's regarding this booklet, most of which are positive. |
GT 30.05.2012 14:13 |
Micrówave wrote: GT: Since it would cost me a absurd price of $22, can you answer a couple of questions? What do you mean when you say "Complete Discography"? Do you mean what you personally have in your collection? Because I have quite a few moreIs this completely in Black & White?. If so, your choice of glossy paper was useless and the cost of printing should have been about 25% the price of full color. It must be like 200 pages, then, right?Like in previous FC booklets over the years, 'complete' means all the Queen and solo single, album and video releases from the beginning till whenever the booklet is published. On this occasion it was April 2012. For this edition we wanted to add many more categories that hadn't been covered before like: cassette singles, USA 12" promo singles, other worldwide CD promo singles and Five Live releases. That is as well as bringing everything up to date on all the regular formats and releases. That includes all the solo stuff and the collaborations - you can just imagine Brian's section! The live Concerts section was also corrected, amended and brought up to date. |
GT 30.05.2012 14:15 |
The type of paper used and the cost of printing was between Jacky and the printer. Not my domain I'm afraid. |
mooghead 30.05.2012 14:15 |
Got to be said... glaring omissions like the Seven Sea of Rhye mentioned above, plus all black and white makes the whole thing look very amateur. For the same price proper books can be bought. Shame. |
GT 30.05.2012 14:21 |
splicksplack wrote: "It then took graphic designer Christoph Von Herrath months to design and lay out the text" Hmmm..are you sure? I only ask because in some places the song titles are in UPPER CASE and in others in Upper and Lower Case. I can't find any info on size or page count but from the pics above I'm guessing at A5 and about 112 pages tops A design studio operative could type out the text in a day or two in Word. That file would then be flown into In-Design or Quark and a the layout done in a day. I'm sorry but "months" is bollocks. I work in the industry. And when I get back to work next week I'll run out a quote for print run of 1,000. I think you'll find your printer has ripped you off or the uplift put on it is ridiculous.It took many months because of the constant additions and corrections that were being thrown Christoph's way. Yes it is A5 format. Yes please, could you get me a quote on 1,000 copies with each booklet containing 104 pages on glossy paper, with a front and back cover in colour and on glossy also. We might have something else in mind. Many thanks. |
cmsdrums 30.05.2012 14:47 |
GT wrote:Thanks Gary - an honest reply is appreciated. I must say however that it seems a bit daft to leave it to the last minute when the date of the convention is known months in advance, and there can't have been that much change in Queen's history, or discography, in the last 6-9 months, to warrant so many last minute revisions?cmsdrums wrote: You actually proof read the final draft? Blimey, there's a first! And you didn't then print one or two copies of the final version and proof read those again before printing 1,000's of them? I've used the word 'amateurs' too many times with every release recently that it's becoming boring...Once all the work had been done it was in Jacky's and the printers control. There wouldn't of been time to proof read a finished copy as they had to be at the convention asap. In fact they arrived on the Saturday morning, the second day of the convention. |
GT 30.05.2012 14:58 |
It wasn't just revisions in the last 6-9 months, but throughout their whole career. We were still working on the content right up to about three weeks before the convention, so suddenly had a rush on after leisurely spending years on it at a more convenient pace. |
Russian Headlong 30.05.2012 15:12 |
The FC are dodgy. Jacky 'sat' on my Wembley tickets in 86. Back in the day there was no internet it was a cheque or po. I waited nearly two months and ended up having to send my cousin (who lived in London) to the fc offices to get the four tickets I had ordered. This was after numerous phone calls, claims they had been lost in the post and other bs. |
cmsdrums 30.05.2012 15:21 |
The FC isn't dodgy, but sometimes Jacky does (or certainly did at the height of membership and activity, which '86 was) bite off more than she could chew, and mostly without any help from the band, their management or publicists. |
mooghead 30.05.2012 15:34 |
"We were still working on the content right up to about three weeks before the convention, so suddenly had a rush on" Its a shame the convention date was only made public 3 weeks before it actually happened....... :/ |
GT 30.05.2012 15:51 |
Well I do have other work and projects to take up my time, not just this booklet. |
cmsdrums 30.05.2012 17:35 |
Yeah, be fair to Gary - if he has other work on you can't expect this book (almost 25 years in the making) to be at totally accurate and produced on time ;-) |
dowens 30.05.2012 19:25 |
I'm surprised Gary replies to all of this. Geez. Don't buy the book if you have so many problems! I enjoy reading everyone's opinions about stuff on here, but wow...so much negativity! |
AlexRocks 30.05.2012 21:28 |
Well I'm actually excited about it and might actually purchase it...may I ask about "The Cosmos Rocks World Tour" I thought it went into 2009? |
GT 31.05.2012 00:19 |
No, just 2008. The final date was in Brazil on 29 November in Rio de Janeiro at the HSBC Arena. |
splicksplack 31.05.2012 03:58 |
GT wrote:splicksplack wrote: "It then took graphic designer Christoph Von Herrath months to design and lay out the text" Hmmm..are you sure? I only ask because in some places the song titles are in UPPER CASE and in others in Upper and Lower Case. I can't find any info on size or page count but from the pics above I'm guessing at A5 and about 112 pages tops A design studio operative could type out the text in a day or two in Word. That file would then be flown into In-Design or Quark and a the layout done in a day. I'm sorry but "months" is bollocks. I work in the industry. And when I get back to work next week I'll run out a quote for print run of 1,000. I think you'll find your printer has ripped you off or the uplift put on it is ridiculous.It took many months because of the constant additions and corrections that were being thrown Christoph's way. Yes it is A5 format. Yes please, could you get me a quote on 1,000 copies with each booklet containing 104 pages on glossy paper, with a front and back cover in colour and on glossy also. We might have something else in mind. Many thanks. |
tomchristie22 31.05.2012 04:23 |
GT wrote:Wouldn't OF is one of the most annoying things in the world =_=cmsdrums wrote: You actually proof read the final draft? Blimey, there's a first! And you didn't then print one or two copies of the final version and proof read those again before printing 1,000's of them? I've used the word 'amateurs' too many times with every release recently that it's becoming boring...Once all the work had been done it was in Jacky's and the printers control. There wouldn't of been time to proof read a finished copy as they had to be at the convention asap. In fact they arrived on the Saturday morning, the second day of the convention. |
dekipema 31.05.2012 08:42 |
Thank you, Gary(^^)/ |
cmsdrums 31.05.2012 09:41 |
Well said tomchristie22 - that wouldn't HAVE got through with a proof read! ;-) |
AlexRocks 31.05.2012 15:43 |
Thank you for responding and clarifying some things for me! I TOTALLY forget that the tour was only around the release date of latest studio l.p. by Queen. I am pretty sure I will be purchasing this soon. Thank you! |
Flash Taylor Sleman 03.06.2012 17:27 |
Gary, a simple question, albums and compilations released outside the UK (as the two CDs Queen Collection, released exclusively in Brazil by EMI / Globo) were covered in the book? Thanks :) PS: Saving my money to buy this book :) |
GT 04.06.2012 00:47 |
Hi Flash, unfortunately due to lack of space we only covered the compilation albums (and VHS/DVD) released in the UK, USA and Japan. Foreign releases are covered in the promo CD singles section though. |
Flash Taylor Sleman 04.06.2012 09:21 |
Hi Gary, Thanks for the answer :D |
splicksplack 06.06.2012 07:42 |
GT wrote:Hi Garysplicksplack wrote: "It then took graphic designer Christoph Von Herrath months to design and lay out the text" Hmmm..are you sure? I only ask because in some places the song titles are in UPPER CASE and in others in Upper and Lower Case. I can't find any info on size or page count but from the pics above I'm guessing at A5 and about 112 pages tops A design studio operative could type out the text in a day or two in Word. That file would then be flown into In-Design or Quark and a the layout done in a day. I'm sorry but "months" is bollocks. I work in the industry. And when I get back to work next week I'll run out a quote for print run of 1,000. I think you'll find your printer has ripped you off or the uplift put on it is ridiculous.It took many months because of the constant additions and corrections that were being thrown Christoph's way. Yes it is A5 format. Yes please, could you get me a quote on 1,000 copies with each booklet containing 104 pages on glossy paper, with a front and back cover in colour and on glossy also. We might have something else in mind. Many thanks. Assuming cover on 250gsm and text pages on 130gsm. 104 pages plus 4 page cover – A5 Outer cover full colour, inner cover and text black only ‘Perfect bound’ (like a paperback book) 1 delivery to London Typesetting and layout - £1,748 Printing 1,000 copies £939 Total - £2,687 (that’s £2.69 per copy) |
GT 08.06.2012 04:05 |
Thanks splicksplack, much appreciated. |
AlexRocks 08.06.2012 09:36 |
I've purchased this! I'm so excited that I just can't hide it! I'm about to loose control and I think I like it! O.k. Wrong song and group...sorry. |