jeffuk49 27.05.2012 03:02 |
Hi any news from the first night |
Another Roger (re) 27.05.2012 03:05 |
The crowd refused to sit down for the 11 first songs its seems. I am trying to find setlists and reviews. But no luck yet. There should be some online newspapers in Quebec covering this? |
jeffuk49 27.05.2012 03:27 |
yeah got that tweet earlier thanks |
Another Roger (re) 27.05.2012 04:13 |
Is this a review? Can anyone translate? link |
aber 27.05.2012 04:16 |
Pictures: link |
jeffuk49 27.05.2012 04:42 |
It's sold out last night at the Grand Theatre de Quebec that the tribute band Queen Extravaganza starting up its North American tour. The show, which included more than 35 songs, traveled the band's repertoire in his greatest hits. Whether it's quieter songs such as Love of My Life and You Take My Breath Away or more rock songs like Stone Cold Crazy , all were delighted. The group exuded an energy and an infectious enthusiasm that has been passed in a natural way to the crowd. Lighting simple, but how well made is added to the show. All members of the group had its place, and guitarists Brian Gresh and Tristan Avakian were conspicuous with their awesome guitar solos and some acrobatics. Several standing ovations were offered to the group by the public, whether for Another One Bites The Dust and Crazy Little Thing Called Love and many others. On I'm In Love With My Car , is the drummer Tyler Warren who is responsible for the interpretation vocals, and drums of course. It is obvious that the group offered the biggest hits such as Bohemian Rhapsody , which had never been done by the Queen on show in a complete, We Will Rock You, We Are The Champions as well as Fat Bottomed Girls and The Show Must Go On rappelling. The Queen Extravaganza is a show of greatest hits ... without forgetting. In addition to providing any performance, group members have generously offered the public a quick session of signing autographs and taking pictures directly into the corridors of the Grand Theatre. A rumor that the Queen drummer Roger Taylor, was in Quebec for the first tour as a producer. Of the nine artists in the group include the presence of three Quebec, is Francois-Olivier Doyon (bass) of Quebec, Marc Martel (vocals) of Montreal and Yvan Pedneault (vocals) Sept-Iles. The Queen Extravaganza will be performing tonight in Montreal and Toronto May |
jeffuk49 27.05.2012 04:43 |
oh thats the translation |
splicksplack 27.05.2012 05:23 |
I don't think it is. It's another review. |
Another Roger (re) 27.05.2012 05:42 |
link |
argQ 27.05.2012 10:32 |
Don't Stop Me Now here: link |
Another Roger (re) 27.05.2012 12:18 |
Under Pressure: link |
Wiley 27.05.2012 13:24 |
Under Pressure was quite good, actually. Liked Jeff's Bowie and the "Why" high note. Good execution. |
Pim Derks 27.05.2012 15:21 |
So, what was the setlist? Did they actually perform anything which was not played by QPR and/or which isn't on the Greatest Hits albums? |
MadTheSwine73 27.05.2012 15:40 |
I'm going tonight. I'll post a setlist soon after I get back, and a review on it later this week. |
Rubbersuit 27.05.2012 17:43 |
Better than I expected from those youtube videos. They seem to be re-creating the album versions of songs pretty faithfully. I'm never a fan of bands performing in front of a big TV screen but at least it's not camera shots of themselves (looking at you Van Halen). |
The Real Wizard 27.05.2012 20:06 |
Incredibly professional. |
The Real Wizard 27.05.2012 20:06 |
I'll be seeing a show next week. Looking forward to it now. |
brunogorski 27.05.2012 20:42 |
Under Pressure sounded pretty cool, Jeff singing the Bowie part was nice! |
Hugowan 27.05.2012 21:19 |
Beautyful. 1st: I want the live DVD, when can we get it, Rog? 2nd: I'd love to attend, do a world tour whenever you want. It's interesting that the first video that made it to YTube was DSMN, my favourite song. I'm totally sold. :) |
MadTheSwine73 27.05.2012 22:31 |
The show was amazing. |
Jimmy Dean 27.05.2012 23:17 |
Show was awesome but I have my complaints: The good: Marc Martel did a fantastic job channeling Freddie the best he could. If no one was convinced during the first half the of the show... One Vision to open the second half was uncanny! I would have to say One Vision was definitely the highlight of the night, performance-wise. This is where it all came together. Under Pressue was also a big highlight, everyone stood up for this performance - this is where Jeff Scott Soto really was worth bringing along on the show - he did a great Bowie, and his interplay with Martel's Freddie was brilliant. Martel could be mistaken for Freddie when throwing out the "de-dop, di de-dop"'s. The other big highlight was that they actually played March of the Black Queen! They played a little more than Queen ever did in a live setting as they began from the "A voice from behind me..." verse and finished off with "never dots her i's"... Very surprised by the performance The girl, Espinoza sang most of the song with Jeff Scott Soto throwing in the line "I'll be your bad boy, I'll be your bad boy".. Very nice interplay - and great band performance. Unfortunately, it seemed I was one of the few in the Montreal audience to know exactly what was going on! Many surprises - Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon, Lap Of The Gods and Lap Of The Gods Revisited, I'm In Love With My Car with the drummer singing - did a great job too, and of course You Take My Breath Away (incredible job by Marc Martel). The bad: JEFF SCOTT SOTO did a wonderful job of channeling PAUL RODGERS... wow... this guy should not have been in the show. I see where they needed him to sing the heavier parts, as Martel's and that other guy's voice was a little too thin. But when he began "Save Me"... it just became obvious that his voice was not suited for the show. He wasn't off key, and he didn't sing badly... but he just didn't fit. They didn't play "The Show Must Go On" --> epic fail. They should have dropped Who Wants to Live Forever and used that instead. They also didn't play Keep Yourself Alive --> epic fail #2. SUMMARY - if they get rid of Soto or at least relegate him to certain specific parts of the show .. ie. Bowie on Pressure, heavy bit of Bohemian Rhapsody, Stone Cold Crazy... would be worth seeing more than once. Also, they need to play with the running order of the set list and above all... include The Show Must Go On... I was really expecting this to be interpreted by Espinoza... would have been perfect for her, Given that these are small issues - they show itself was incredible and definitely went beyond my expectations. The light show is also worth mentioning - very well done and in wonderful taste. SET LIST (running order is probably off) SET 1 Intro before show: hidden track off Made In Heaven 1) Prophet Song (tape - La/la/la Madman bit) 2) We Will Rock You (Fast) 3) Tie Your Mother Down 4) Now I'm Here 5) Love Of My Life 6) I Want It All 7) Killer Queen 8) The March Of The Black Queen (excerpt) 9) Dragon Attack 10) Bicycle Race 11) I Want To Break Free (single version) 12) You Take My Breath Away 13) Crazy Little Thing Called Love 14) Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon (I shit you not!) 15) I'm In Love With My Car (Drummer sang this one!) 16) Save Me 17) Bohemian Rhapsody INTERMISSION SET 2 18) Rock It (Tape Intro) 19) One Vision 20) A Kind Of Magic 21) Don't Stop Me Now 22) Under Pressure 23) Another One Bites The Dust 24) Who Wants To Live Forever 25) White Man (intro riff only) 26) Fat Bottomed Girls 27) Stone Cold Crazy 28) (Drum Solo) / Liar (intro) 29) You're My Best Friend 30) Seven Seas Of Rhye 31) In The Lap Of The Gods 32) In The Lap Of The Gods...revisited 33) Radio Ga Ga 34) Somebody To Love ENCORE 35) We Will Rock You (Slow) 36) We Are The Champions (Not quite 40, but if you round up and include the tapes and excerpts... you can sort of boast 40) |
tomchristie22 28.05.2012 01:37 |
Setlist looks great |
Another Roger (re) 28.05.2012 02:16 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote: The show was amazing.Is it possible to get a longer review from you? :) |
Another Roger (re) 28.05.2012 02:38 |
Bohemian Rhapsody montreal: link |
tcc 28.05.2012 03:08 |
Thanks for the link. The singing is not bad but I think they should wear lighter coloured clothing to stand out more on the stage. I think Freddie always made sure he wore attractively coloured clothes to make the appearance even more appealing. Edit: I jumped the gun - in the youtube uploads for DSMN and UP, the band wore white. |
john bodega 28.05.2012 03:16 |
Pre-production must've been paying off, I like this a lot more than the TV appearance from a little while ago. Female vocalist still seems like a token hire to me, which is a shame. |
Another Roger (re) 28.05.2012 03:22 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Pre-production must've been paying off, I like this a lot more than the TV appearance from a little while ago. Female vocalist still seems like a token hire to me, which is a shame.Totally agree. She sings well, but she shouldnt be in this concept in my opinion. The youtube links is good. Wish we could get a clip with better recording though :) |
Raffy 28.05.2012 06:20 |
The 3 videos posted here are very impressive... incredible job, all renditions of the songs were very professional but with a slight personal touch which is always welcomed in a tribute band ;) My personal favourite owever was "Under Pressure"... stunning version and the combination of Jeff and Marc voices is superb! And I cannot wait to see and hear Marc Martel rendition of songs like: - You Take My Breath Away - Save Me - Who Wants To Live Forever - In The Lap Of The Gods - In The Lap Of The Gods...revisited which are very suitable for his voice timbre (reminds me a lot of 1977-1982 Freddie's)... BTW: where is Spread Your Wings? Otherwise perfect setlist ;) |
cmsdrums 28.05.2012 07:14 |
Well it certainly sounds as if they have met Roger's main aim of trumping most of the piss poor tribute bands out there. Hopefully it may spark Roger into talking Brian into doing some lesser aired album tracks in July! |
bokkepoot 28.05.2012 09:53 |
Sound level is to high for the camara which shoot the concert but....: March of the black Queen: link I'm in love with my car: link |
on my way up 28.05.2012 10:06 |
Hopefully we'll get a good recording from one of the dates. This is awesome stuff! |
dysan 28.05.2012 10:17 |
Looks great. Didn't like that TMOTBQ, mind. |
The Real Wizard 28.05.2012 10:21 |
bokkepoot wrote: March of the black Queen: linkYikes, a bit pitchy. Not that I could do any better.. |
The Real Wizard 28.05.2012 10:21 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: Bohemian Rhapsody montreal: linkNow this is incredible. |
Raffy 28.05.2012 11:04 |
Raffy wrote: The 3 videos posted here are very impressive... incredible job, all renditions of the songs were very professional but with a slight personal touch which is always welcomed in a tribute band ;) My personal favourite owever was "Under Pressure"... stunning version and the combination of Jeff and Marc voices is superb! And I cannot wait to see and hear Marc Martel rendition of songs like: - You Take My Breath Away - Save Me - Who Wants To Live Forever - In The Lap Of The Gods - In The Lap Of The Gods...revisited which are very suitable for his voice timbre (reminds me a lot of 1977-1982 Freddie's)... BTW: where is Spread Your Wings? Otherwise perfect setlist ;)I've also forgot all the songs they could have chosen from 1986+ albums... none of them was in the setlist... why? |
Raffy 28.05.2012 11:06 |
Maybe they want to cover only the "live period" of Queen (1970-1986) |
99jaystang 28.05.2012 11:27 |
wow before I was rolling my eyes when Roger announced this Extravaganza, but have to admit this is a awesome show. Great song selection. |
beautifulsoup 28.05.2012 13:05 |
99jaystang wrote: wow before I was rolling my eyes when Roger announced this Extravaganza, but have to admit this is a awesome show. Great song selection.So did I, and so do I. |
Another Roger (re) 28.05.2012 14:17 |
From the few clips I have seen so far this my verdict: - Its fantastic when Marc Martel sings - The band plays well together, and will probably gel and develop even further as they keep playing live. - Soto is good for backup, and he does a great David Bowie in Under Pressure. - Espinoza sings quite well, but she should be relegated to backing vocals, or probably sing the odd song. She should not interfier in Martels songs. Girls isnt right for Queensongs in my opinion. - The guitarists does a fine job. They should cut out the theatrics though. Tossing the guitar in the air do not add to the show. They might think that, but it doesnt. ;) - I havent seen or heard enough of the drummer yet. But it sounded like he did a good version of "I'm in love with my car". Thats all I have so far. :) |
djcamper 28.05.2012 14:32 |
Raffy wrote: 1986+ albums... none of them was in the setlist... why?Yes, with so many rarities, bring in "Was it all worth it" at last! |
Raffy 28.05.2012 14:47 |
djcamper wrote: Yes, with so many rarities, bring in "Was it all worth it" at last!That's precisely my point: imagine after the line "When the hurly burly's done" and before the solo the band stops... 2 seconds of silence... Bri & Rog enter on the stage, Marc Martel presents them then they continue the song all together... spine chilling... it would be the ultimate live experience! |
queenfanbg 28.05.2012 15:37 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: Under Pressure: linkactually this is pretty nice... |
MadTheSwine73 28.05.2012 17:16 |
Another Roger (re) wrote:By the end of the week I should post a review :)MadTheSwine73 wrote: The show was amazing.Is it possible to get a longer review from you? :) |
Wiley 28.05.2012 20:42 |
So I guess we now know who's the real quality control on the Queen camp. Mr. Taylor none the less. |
waunakonor 28.05.2012 20:42 |
I've said before about my lack of confidence in the show, but now I'm officially convinced that it will be a good show. It doesn't seem like anyone has been going and straight-up saying that the show was bad or disappointing, which is great for a site like QueenZone where unnecessary negativity is injected into everything. Some very informative reviews here. If the bit about playing Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon is true, then I especially can't wait to here that little number performed, as well as other more powerful numbers that I'm sure he'll be able to do some justice to. Did Queen even actually play LoaSA live? Seeing it on Thursday in Detroit, as well as GregSynth. Should be great! :) |
waunakonor 28.05.2012 20:50 |
:P |
The Real Wizard 28.05.2012 20:53 |
waunakonor wrote: Did Queen even actually play LoaSA live?Yup, at just about every 1976 show. |
notimeforlosers 28.05.2012 21:53 |
LOASA live from Boston '76: link |
Gregsynth 28.05.2012 22:39 |
waunakonor wrote: I've said before about my lack of confidence in the show, but now I'm officially convinced that it will be a good show. It doesn't seem like anyone has been going and straight-up saying that the show was bad or disappointing, which is great for a site like QueenZone where unnecessary negativity is injected into everything. Some very informative reviews here. If the bit about playing Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon is true, then I especially can't wait to here that little number performed, as well as other more powerful numbers that I'm sure he'll be able to do some justice to. Did Queen even actually play LoaSA live? Seeing it on Thursday in Detroit, as well as GregSynth. Should be great! :)Can't wait to meet you! |
Gregsynth 28.05.2012 22:43 |
on my way up wrote: Hopefully we'll get a good recording from one of the dates. This is awesome stuff!Trust me, you'll be seeing a good recording from a date on this tour ;) |
YourValentine 29.05.2012 01:28 |
Now what is the difference between the "Queen Extravaganza" and any other good cover band? (Except all the hype, of course.) |
cmsdrums 29.05.2012 02:00 |
YourValentine wrote: Now what is the difference between the "Queen Extravaganza" and any other good cover band? (Except all the hype, of course.)The difference is that this is a tribute band, not a cover band. There a tons of cover band out there - bands that do Queen songs but with no real feel for the nuances and style of playing, or the sound they need to capture, or the signature pieces they have to include. A tribute band however has all of those, and is not looking to radically alter songs to present their own skills, and stay true to the songs and pay attention to detail with their performance (such as Roger's hi hat/snare style of playing) etc I'm sure having Queen's sound guy on board, and Roger coaching them has definitely helped. I'm partially in agreement with Wiley on the quality control - Roger has gone 'classic' and paid tribute to the catalogue, whereas Brian has tried in numerous ways to reinvent and change the songs; both have their merits but I am in Roger's camp on this. |
john bodega 29.05.2012 02:10 |
Someone needs to smack that female singer on the snout, the pitch thing is really getting on my nuts. Bo Rhap sounds really great. I really can't take anyone seriously if they dismiss Martel out of hand. The man has a very clear talent. What a pity he didn't come with a time machine - he could punt PR out of the picture for good. |
tomchristie22 29.05.2012 02:47 |
Well this is all looking much better than I expected. It's pretty nice that Roger seems to have managed to exceed our expectations. I look forward to GregSynth's verdict (and recording if that's what he appeared to be implying) too! |
djcamper 29.05.2012 04:10 |
Raffy wrote: That's precisely my point: imagine after the line "When the hurly burly's done" and before the solo the band stops... 2 seconds of silence... Bri & Rog enter on the stage, Marc Martel presents them then they continue the song all together... spine chilling... it would be the ultimate live experience!Would be great, I would also like to hear how much miracle and innuendo songs would benefit from modern synth sound. @Gregsynth, do you have plans about making an analysis of QE vocal performances and comparing them to whose from times of Freddie? I would be personally very interested in seeing that. |
Rubbersuit 29.05.2012 07:48 |
YourValentine wrote: Now what is the difference between the "Queen Extravaganza" and any other good cover band? (Except all the hype, of course.)Personal involvement and quality control by Queen. |
waunakonor 29.05.2012 07:57 |
notimeforlosers wrote: LOASA live from Boston '76: linkAh, ok, thanks for that. I've never really done my homework on Queen live like a lot of other people have, so I don't know much about that. Still, can't wait to see how the QW does it. |
The Real Wizard 29.05.2012 08:37 |
cmsdrums wrote:Excellent post.YourValentine wrote: Now what is the difference between the "Queen Extravaganza" and any other good cover band? (Except all the hype, of course.)The difference is that this is a tribute band, not a cover band. There a tons of cover band out there - bands that do Queen songs but with no real feel for the nuances and style of playing, or the sound they need to capture, or the signature pieces they have to include. A tribute band however has all of those, and is not looking to radically alter songs to present their own skills, and stay true to the songs and pay attention to detail with their performance (such as Roger's hi hat/snare style of playing) etc I'm sure having Queen's sound guy on board, and Roger coaching them has definitely helped. I'm partially in agreement with Wiley on the quality control - Roger has gone 'classic' and paid tribute to the catalogue, whereas Brian has tried in numerous ways to reinvent and change the songs; both have their merits but I am in Roger's camp on this. |
Missreclusive 29.05.2012 09:44 |
Fairly new to this site and a reborn Queen fan. Reborn in the sense that I liked their hits years ago and have now gone deeper therefore, have become a solid fan. On that note, I read the comments in Youtube and see there are quite a few who recently discovered Queen. I'm feeling QE could cause serious resurgence. I think this is a fantastic thing for the younger generation! Wondering if the band will bond even more and stay together, do a world tour? Also, I feel the girl needs to go. Am going to see QE in Houston on the 20th. |
Missreclusive 29.05.2012 09:47 |
Reread my post and I didn't mean the girl needs to go along with but rather go home! She seems out of place and her solo bits annoy me. |
brunogorski 29.05.2012 09:59 |
Queen Extravaganza should come to Brazil! I'd love to watch them! :'( |
YourValentine 29.05.2012 12:04 |
cmsdrums wrote:YourValentine wrote: Now what is the difference between the "Queen Extravaganza" and any other good cover band? (Except all the hype, of course.)The difference is that this is a tribute band, not a cover band. There a tons of cover band out there - bands that do Queen songs but with no real feel for the nuances and style of playing, or the sound they need to capture, or the signature pieces they have to include. A tribute band however has all of those, and is not looking to radically alter songs to present their own skills, and stay true to the songs and pay attention to detail with their performance (such as Roger's hi hat/snare style of playing) etc ... I have to disagree. It does not matter if you call them tribute or cover but there are loads of excellent Queen tribute or cover bands who have a lot of love for the music and are really good. There is definitely a weird feeling seeing musicians who devote their whole musical carreer to the music of another band trying to recreate the success of this other band on a stage but once you have accepted this concept of a band playing nothing but the material of another very successful band they can be great. Good Queen cover bands do capture the sound and feeling without slavishly following a specific original reference stage rendition of a song. I have seen many cover/tribute bands, some are even friends but I find it more than weird that the drummer of the original band assembles his own tribute band and hypes them with the full publicity machine of the originals. I am sure the musicians are all great and have a genuine love for Queen music but to me the whole project looks like a very cheap marketing event: Bring Queen back to the USA with the least possible money and effort and a lot of publicity. There was a time when Roger thought that cover bands are very bizzarre but times change. |
bassman67 29.05.2012 12:23 |
The singers are amazing. Honestly though, I hate those guitarists - especially the lefty with that stupid ass backflip and throwing his guitar in the air stuff. Why are they doing that? I wonder how involved Brian was in the selection of guitarists? When I saw that on AI I couldn't believe how incredibly stupid that was. |
Gregsynth 29.05.2012 13:59 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Well this is all looking much better than I expected. It's pretty nice that Roger seems to have managed to exceed our expectations. I look forward to GregSynth's verdict (and recording if that's what he appeared to be implying) too!You implied correctly :) I can't wait to see the QE live! Going off the Youtube videos, I love what I'm hearing! |
notimeforlosers 29.05.2012 14:32 |
Love of My Life by QE: link Uau. I'm in love with Martel. |
kosimodo 29.05.2012 14:55 |
Well... sound absolutely great! Marc is a great singer indeed! They can tour Europe in bigger venues for sure. |
notimeforlosers 29.05.2012 16:09 |
Marc Martel is without a doubt the star of the show. His Love of My Life performance is stupendous. I'm longing to see other videos, You Take My Breath Away for instance. |
jeffuk49 29.05.2012 16:20 |
a visit to the uk would be nice |
Jimmy Dean 29.05.2012 17:35 |
Also - since I witnessed it - I should mention, Marc Martel, I think, has assumed the role of the front man, as he was the only one to address the crowd. Not as charismatic as Freddie, mind you, but he did know how to get the crowd going and was not shy of the mic. I'm pretty sure Roger will drop one of the singers as the tour goes on as Marc needs more airtime... and it won't be the girl - cuz she hardly got any, and when she did - it was in good taste, ie. the right selections for a female singer to sing. |
brunogorski 29.05.2012 18:03 |
I've just found a Brazilian girl in the Montreal show! link At 2:16, she says: "Ai, que lindo!" This means some like "Oh, it's beautiful!" \o/ |
MadTheSwine73 29.05.2012 18:09 |
Full Setlist in perfect order: Prophet Song (Intro from tape) / We Will Rock You (Fast) Tie Your Mother Down Now I'm Here Love Of My Life I Want It All Killer Queen / The March Of The Black Queen (excerpt) Dragon Attack Bicycle Race I Want To Break Free You Take My Breath Away Crazy Little Thing Called Love Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon I'm In Love With My Car Save Me Bohemian Rhapsody Intermission Rock It (Intro from tape) / One Vision A Kind Of Magic Don't Stop Me Now Under Pressure Another One Bites The Dust Who Wants To Live Forever White Man (intro riff only) / Fat Bottomed Girls Stone Cold Crazy Drum Solo / Liar (intro) You're My Best Friend Seven Seas Of Rhye In The Lap Of The Gods In The Lap Of The Gods...revisited Radio GaGa Somebody To Love Encore We Will Rock You We Are The Champions |
Doga 29.05.2012 18:39 |
What an impressive setlist. Q+AL must do something like that!!! |
notimeforlosers 29.05.2012 19:01 |
Save Me + CLTCL link Bicycle Race link |
notimeforlosers 29.05.2012 19:20 |
Definitely, I don't like Soto's inputs in Queen songs, I think he doesn't fit them. Martel should be in charge of all the songs, his voice is phenomenal and fits perfectly in everything he has taken. He's the man! The drummer is great too! |
MadTheSwine73 29.05.2012 20:02 |
I think the other male singer (not Soto, not Martel) is also amazing. He's, in my opinion, the second best one there vocally. |
Jimmy Dean 29.05.2012 22:22 |
Agreed with MadTheSwine (since we were the only ones there)... that other guy was a more "Broadwayish" version of Mercury - so he should be used for the more campy songs like Bicyle Race, Don't Stop Me Now, Seven Seas etc. That guy would not be able to pull off any of the slow numbers or even the ones that need a full voice, a la Kind of Magic, One Vision & Radio Ga Ga. |
Jimmy Dean 29.05.2012 22:33 |
brunogorski wrote: I've just found a Brazilian girl in the Montreal show! link At 2:16, she says: "Ai, que lindo!" This means some like "Oh, it's beautiful!" \o/We got lots of every nationality here... really, every one... In fact, we have a relatively large Portugese population (relative to Canada that is)... Toronto probably has a lot more, though. |
The Real Wizard 29.05.2012 23:05 |
The Toronto show was absolutely spectacular. I will post a full review tomorrow. The setlist was the same. Dare I say, this was far better than seeing Queen + Paul Rodgers. Stay tuned.. |
notimeforlosers 29.05.2012 23:39 |
I am almost regreting to have bought the Hammersmith ticket for Q + AL, plus an additional flight from Brazil to England. Should have gone to Canada instead! Martel is absolutely amazing. |
Another Roger (re) 29.05.2012 23:51 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Dare I say, this was far better than seeing Queen + Paul RodgersThat is shocking news really. But I guess Paul Rodgers ruined a lot with his bluesy voice. :) |
Another Roger (re) 29.05.2012 23:53 |
The Real Wizard wrote: And I took plenty of videoMay I request Killer Queen and You take my breath away ? Please upload songs with Martel on vocals ;) |
notimeforlosers 30.05.2012 00:03 |
Another Roger (re) wrote:I second that. More Martel, please!The Real Wizard wrote: And I took plenty of videoMay I request Killer Queen and You take my breath away ? Please upload songs with Martel on vocals ;) |
notimeforlosers 30.05.2012 00:09 |
I've just found a video where Marc Martel is shaving his beard to let just the moustache in and sings a snippet of Killer Queen 'channeling' Freddie. link Wanna see more QE videos! |
kosimodo 30.05.2012 01:00 |
I bet when He was seeing Marc instead of Paul... Marc was His favorite singer!;) |
The Real Wizard 30.05.2012 09:00 |
Another Roger (re) wrote:Actually, I think that was the best part. The fact that he was adding his own flavour to the Queen catalog added certain freshness and life to many of the songs.The Real Wizard wrote: Dare I say, this was far better than seeing Queen + Paul RodgersThat is shocking news really. But I guess Paul Rodgers ruined a lot with his bluesy voice. :) And likewise, with May and Taylor playing the Free and Bad Company songs, they never sounded better, as far as I'm concerned. Review of QE coming up shortly. |
Bad Seed 30.05.2012 10:18 |
Any info on the 'never before seen' footage they were apparently going to show on the screens Bob? |
on my way up 30.05.2012 11:06 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Most of the time the European fans are in advantage but now with this QE you guys in the US and Canada seem to be the lucky ones...Another Roger (re) wrote:Actually, I think that was the best part. The fact that he was adding his own flavour to the Queen catalog added certain freshness and life to many of the songs. And likewise, with May and Taylor playing the Free and Bad Company songs, they never sounded better, as far as I'm concerned. Review of QE coming up shortly.The Real Wizard wrote: Dare I say, this was far better than seeing Queen + Paul RodgersThat is shocking news really. But I guess Paul Rodgers ruined a lot with his bluesy voice. :) I've liked pretty much all I've seen, which is rare for Queen performed by other musicians! |
The Real Wizard 30.05.2012 11:08 |
Bad Seed wrote: Any info on the 'never before seen' footage they were apparently going to show on the screens Bob?Maybe some very slight bits. But nothing extraordinary. |
Missreclusive 30.05.2012 11:11 |
I Was going to ask the same question, they keep advertizing never before seen footage. ? |
Missreclusive 30.05.2012 11:11 |
I Was going to ask the same question, they keep advertizing never before seen footage. ? |
Missreclusive 30.05.2012 11:13 |
I stutter, sorry. |
The Real Wizard 30.05.2012 11:19 |
YourValentine wrote: there are loads of excellent Queen tribute or cover bands who have a lot of love for the music and are really good.While many of them are quite good, none remotely compare to this. There is definitely a weird feeling seeing musicians who devote their whole musical carreer to the music of another bandTell that to Yo Yo Ma - he has spent 99% of his career replicating the music of others. I am sure the musicians are all great and have a genuine love for Queen music but to me the whole project looks like a very cheap marketing event: Bring Queen back to the USA with the least possible money and effort and a lot of publicity.If you're this cynical now, I can only imagine what you'll be saying after the shows with Adam Lambert :-) There was a time when Roger thought that cover bands are very bizzarre but times change.Thank goodness one is allowed to have their views evolve over time ! |
The Real Wizard 30.05.2012 14:03 |
My review of the Toronto show: After seeing the audition videos, I was generally unimpressed. But after seeing the show last night, all I can say is - I'm glad Roger Taylor was the judging panel instead of me, as he clearly saw the potential in front of him. The 1250 capacity theatre was sold out. Expectations were high, and rightfully so. Roger Taylor said he picked the best. In any situation that is a tall order. They did not disappoint. Four lead singers and a five-piece band (most of whom also sang) did justice to the Queen back catalog. While the big hits were performed as is the custom at any Queen-related event, they also delved into the earlier albums more than any tribute act or even Queen themselves had in decades. The March Of The Black Queen, In The Lap Of The Gods (both versions), You Take My Breath Away and Dragon Attack were ear candy for the hardcores, while classics like Somebody To Love, Radio Ga Ga and You're My Best Friend were enjoyed by everyone on hand. Fat Bottomed Girls brought the house down. It has been moved to be near the end the show, being such a crowd pleaser. One may see the absence of songs like Keep Yourself Alive and The Show Must Go On as glaring omissions. But with a running length of over two hours, it was just not possible to cover every piece of ground Queen covered on fifteen records, so there is not a chance I will call this a criticism. Vocal harmonies were tight and clearly well-rehearsed. The singers were all strong. Perhaps Jennifer Espinoza had some opening night jitters in Monreal, or maybe her voice wasn't coming out clearly in her monitor - but she was absolutely flawless in Toronto. Bohemian Rhapsody was introduced by Marc Martel as a song that Queen had never performed in its entirety. This band performed the song perfectly from beginning to end. While all four lead singers were fantastic and each represented various colours of Freddie Mercury's multi-faceted voice, Martel was clearly the strongest of the four. And that is not meant to sound like a disservice to the others. He is just that good. There are too many great Martel moments to mention, but his interpretation of Under Pressure, particularly the "Why can't we give love" section, was delivered powerfully with conviction, where he sounded scarily close to Mercury. Jeff Scott Soto handled the Bowie parts perfectly. You Take My Breath Away was Yvan Pednault's best song of the night, and despite being a little known ballad, it was greatly appreciated by the audience. The lead singing duties are split almost evenly. Sometimes the singers switch it up from verse to verse. Overall - there is no cheese factor here. Some showmanship, but rarely was it over the top. Just pure dedication to the music. The lighting show was excellent, and there were some visuals on the screen. Never once did it hamper the music. It simply augmented the experience, just the right amount, just when necessary. The keyboardist (and musical director) held the fort. The bassist and drummer were rock solid, and the latter even sang the lead on I'm In Love With My Car - not an easy song to do justice to. After a brief but dazzling drum solo, Death On Two Legs and Liar were referenced before the final fanfare. Tristan Avakian balanced musicality with theatricality perfectly, and stayed true to Brian May's style and gentlemanly stature. Brian Gresh is an incredibly good player as well, but he often opted for speed picking and blazing runs over May's melodic style. That said, the choice to have two very different styles of guitar playing kept things fresh. Also worth noting is the guitar toss in the air antic was thankfully scrapped, but the back flip remains. Back flips are necessary in shows where one needs to make up for a lack of musical depth. Not here. But this is a single two-second moment in a 2+ hour show. His professionalism and fiery guitar style were an integral part of the show. So, let's compare it to other Queen-related shows. Tribute act singer Gary Mullen may have Mercury's persona down pat and has studied the voice for years, but Martel simply comes off as more genuine. And the QE band is far, far better. QE wins. We Will Rock You, being a theatre show, is a whole different animal. It generally sticks to the hits, but in its defense it was designed for the general public, not for the wider spectrum of Queen fans like QE was. WWRY has lasted for a decade, and something has to be said for that. The bands are equally good. QE wins. Queen + Paul Rodgers was two Queen members and a legendary blues-based singer offering a refreshing take on the Queen catalog. Rodgers was the first (and likely only) singer to bring May and Taylor back together to tour the world and record a new album, which brought joy to Queen fans worldwide (although not all). But the song selection of QE has a diversity that no single singer can handle. That person is no longer with us. QE wins - but barely. And finally, Queen themselves. The breadth of their catalog could never be fully replicated on stage by just four people. They sometimes came close, peaking around 1976-77. Being a four piece often forced them to re-arrange their songs for the live environment, usually with great results. But it was a very different band. Not better, not worse - just different. The spectacle of Queen's show was always grand. It was their ideas, their theatrics, their creative control. And a member of Queen is the primary reason why the Queen Extravaganza show is such a success. Queen wins. And there's nothing wrong with that. Being second place to Queen is still an immense honour. The Queen Extravaganza is very likely the closest thing one will ever see to capturing what Queen were all about in a two hour span. It will be incredibly hard for anyone to top this. I cannot recommend this show highly enough. |
Rubbersuit 30.05.2012 14:20 |
Thanks for the detailed review. Not sure if you'll agree with yourself about QE being better than Queen+PR in a few days after the post-show "high" wears off. :) I'm happy it's a good show. Queen needs some wins to counter-balance Queen+ AL. |
The Real Wizard 30.05.2012 14:32 |
Perhaps you're right, but let's look at it this way. I've separated the songs into two lists - those that QPR did and didn't play. Tie Your Mother Down Love Of My Life I Want It All Dragon Attack I Want To Break Free Crazy Little Thing Called Love I'm In Love With My Car Bohemian Rhapsody One Vision A Kind Of Magic Under Pressure Another One Bites The Dust Fat Bottomed Girls Radio Ga Ga We Will Rock You We Are The Champions Now I'm Here Killer Queen The March Of The Black Queen (excerpt) Bicycle Race You Take My Breath Away Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon Save Me You're My Best Friend Seven Seas Of Rhye In The Lap Of The Gods In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited Somebody To Love Don't Stop Me Now Who Wants To Live Forever Stone Cold Crazy Death On Two Legs (fragment) Liar (fragment) The diversity really is staggering. Note that most of the second list are Mercury compositions. But with the shoe on the other foot, one can only commend Brian and Roger for having a setlist between 2005-08 full of hits with so few Mercury songs. Yet the complainers said the band was little without Mercury. Irony is just lost on some people. When I think back to QPR, the first thing that usually comes to mind is the two of them at the front of the stage playing A Kind Of Magic, old chums smiling nearing their fifth decade of playing together. What joyful times those were. |
cmsdrums 30.05.2012 14:54 |
Great review The Real Wizard - thank you. And I totally agree- Brian and Roger as two old friends revelling in each other's skills and 'jamming' parts of AKOM really were was a high point of the last tour. |
MadTheSwine73 30.05.2012 16:03 |
I guess I won't be doing a review of the Montreal show now... Bob pretty much summed it all up. |
Another Roger (re) 30.05.2012 16:54 |
Radio GaGa with bad sound: link This is so similiar to Freddie Mercury. |
waunakonor 30.05.2012 17:36 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Don't you know? If you say one thing and then say a different thing years later, you're being a hypocrite! The only way to go about life is to be an arrogant asshole who will never change his view about anything no matter how many good arguments he hears against it, because changing your mind makes you a pussy.YourValentine wrote: There was a time when Roger thought that cover bands are very bizzarre but times change.Thank goodness one is allowed to have their views evolve over time ! |
notimeforlosers 30.05.2012 19:44 |
Martel on Killer Queen: link And a weak YMBF by Espinoza: link |
YAFF 30.05.2012 19:46 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.Nicely written review....but I'll pass. Honestly, I wouldn't go even if it were free. To each their own though. I don't like tribute bands and especially a hand-picked one by a member of "Queen +" Martel's undeniable similarity to Freddie is actually the most repulsive part. With Queen + PR, the WWRY musical, Queen + Adam Lambert and now this I can honestly say that I have zero respect left for Brian & Roger. But, hey, I only listened to Queen because of Freddie anyway. |
YAFF 30.05.2012 19:48 |
notimeforlosers wrote: Martel on Killer Queen: linkFail. |
notimeforlosers 30.05.2012 19:51 |
YetAnotherFreddieFan wrote:Go to a Freddie Mercury forum instead. Here is a Queen forum, where people admire the work of Brian May, Roger Taylor, John Deacon AND Freddie Mercury, not only his.The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.Nicely written review....but I'll pass. Honestly, I wouldn't go even if it were free. To each their own though. I don't like tribute bands and especially a hand-picked one by a member of "Queen +" Martel's undeniable similarity to Freddie is actually the most repulsive part. With Queen + PR, the WWRY musical, Queen + Adam Lambert and now this I can honestly say that I have zero respect left for Brian & Roger. But, hey, I only listened to Queen because of Freddie anyway. Freddie's widows piss me off so badly... |
waunakonor 30.05.2012 21:26 |
YetAnotherFreddieFan wrote: Martel's undeniable similarity to Freddie is actually the most repulsive part. With Queen + PR, the WWRY musical, Queen + Adam Lambert and now this I can honestly say that I have zero respect left for Brian & Roger. But, hey, I only listened to Queen because of Freddie anyway.I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. How does QE make you respect R&B (heh, has anybody else ever noticed that pun?) any less when you've never seen it and almost everything you've heard of it is positive? That doesn't make any sense. Second, how is Martel being similar to Freddie repulsive? It means he can do some justice to the songs, which is a good thing! You say you only like Freddie anyway (something I disagree strongly with) so having someone who's like Freddie should be a plus. Third, what notimeforlosers said. |
The Real Wizard 30.05.2012 21:35 |
waunakonor wrote:Ah, but of course! What was I thinking ?!?The Real Wizard wrote:Don't you know? If you say one thing and then say a different thing years later, you're being a hypocrite! The only way to go about life is to be an arrogant asshole who will never change his view about anything no matter how many good arguments he hears against it, because changing your mind makes you a pussy.YourValentine wrote: There was a time when Roger thought that cover bands are very bizzarre but times change.Thank goodness one is allowed to have their views evolve over time ! |
Gregsynth 30.05.2012 21:36 |
I can't wait for the show tomorrow! Bob's review is making me want to see the show more than ever! BTW waunakonor, you have a Private Message/Mail! |
Missreclusive 30.05.2012 22:22 |
I do have a question, how old are most of the people on this forum? Curious. Seems "passion" abounds here. Btw, I don't really expect an answer. lol |
Missreclusive 30.05.2012 22:30 |
And another thing. I love Queen and mainly because of Freddie however, I'm going to QE because of my love for great live music. These are true musicians who love performing and their heros musically speaking are Queen. Except for Martel, I think he was pushed into auditioning for this because he sounds like Freddie...from what I read he wasn't a huge fan beforehand. |
notimeforlosers 30.05.2012 23:33 |
I don't like tribute bands and especially a hand-picked one by a member of "Queen +" Martel's undeniable similarity to Freddie is actually the most repulsive part. With Queen + PR, the WWRY musical, Queen + Adam Lambert and now this I can honestly say that I have zero respect left for Brian & Roger. But, hey, I only listened to Queen because of Freddie anyway.And actually, Roger is not a member of Queen+ as you're claiming, he's the co-founder of Queen alongside Brian May and he was there before Freddie jumped in. Anyway, if you're not interested in Queen, grab your Mr. Bad Guy album and be forever happy (while I'm being happier with my Sheer Heart Attack). |
tomchristie22 31.05.2012 03:59 |
Listening to their version of Killer Queen at the moment, sounds fantastic.. I really regret being skeptical of this before.
YetAnotherFreddieFan wrote:You say it as though Freddie was the band's leader and centerpoint while Brian and Roger just played on his backing tracks. I wonder if there'd be the same complaints about Freddie tarnishing Queen's legacy if he was still around, and Brian & Roger had since died?The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.Nicely written review....but I'll pass. Honestly, I wouldn't go even if it were free. To each their own though. I don't like tribute bands and especially a hand-picked one by a member of "Queen +" Martel's undeniable similarity to Freddie is actually the most repulsive part. With Queen + PR, the WWRY musical, Queen + Adam Lambert and now this I can honestly say that I have zero respect left for Brian & Roger. But, hey, I only listened to Queen because of Freddie anyway. |
mt60 31.05.2012 08:08 |
Hi guys :) I have one question. Anyone have a bootleg from Torronto concert? |
waunakonor 31.05.2012 10:19 |
GregSynth wrote: BTW waunakonor, you have a Private Message/Mail!Well, so I do! How did you know? Missreclusive wrote: I do have a question, how old are most of the people on this forum? Curious. Seems "passion" abounds here. Btw, I don't really expect an answer. lolIt seems to me that most of us are middle aged with a few teenagers/early 20s people scattered around as well wreaking havoc. |
Micrówave 31.05.2012 10:21 |
Queen + Paul Rodgers was two Queen members and a legendary blues-based singer offering a refreshing take on the Queen catalog. Rodgers was the first (and likely only) singer to bring May and Taylor back together to tour the world and record a new album, which brought joy to Queen fans worldwide (although not all). But the song selection of QE has a diversity that no single singer can handle. That person is no longer with us. QE wins - but barely.I actually enjoyed your review up until this part. There's a reason a singer can have a long, sustaining career... because he can still do it, which Paul obviously can. I'm sure Martel's a decent lounge singer, but c'mon dude... really? He plays church fundraising gigs and probably works for a Title Company during the day time. |
cmsdrums 31.05.2012 10:39 |
Even more credit to Martel in that case for dropping a guaranteed income job and pursuing the QE thing, when it may only be a 'famous for five minutes' thing. Having said that, Gary Mullen has made a 20 year career from a five minute tv appearance, so I'm sure Martel could after he inevitably gets dropped like a stone by Roger/Brian/Jim Beach when the next best thing since sliced bread comes along! |
Micrówave 31.05.2012 13:59 |
I'm trying to think of an artist that was hoping his appearance with a cover band would make him famous.... Besides the new Journey singer, I can't think of anyone. And I wouldn't exactly call him famous. Sure, they get to sing "Don't Stop Believin'" to 40 year olds, but it's nothing like the hey day with Steve. But good luck, if that's your thing. |
The Real Wizard 31.05.2012 14:02 |
Micrówave wrote: There's a reason a singer can have a long, sustaining career... because he can still do it, which Paul obviously can. I'm sure Martel's a decent lounge singer, but c'mon dude... really? He plays church fundraising gigs and probably works for a Title Company during the day time.The reason why I gave QE the slight edge over QPR isn't because of the singer. It's the diversity of songs offered. Martel is great, full stop. The perfect guy for this particular project. The longevity of Paul Rodgers isn't necessarily a means to dismiss someone else. |
7Innuendo7 31.05.2012 17:58 |
I'm persuaded to hit the Cleveland show...we'll see if I make it back to Erie the next morning for work! |
Brian Maybe 31.05.2012 18:17 |
Great review, Bob, thanks! I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the show in LA. Don't know if I will enjoy it quite as much as Queen+PR, as seeing one of my biggest guitar idols is always a rare treat, but I'm with you on the superior setlist for sure! Some real gems in this show. I hope it does great throughout the whole tour. |
brunogorski 31.05.2012 20:23 |
You're My Best Friend: link Who Wants to Live Forever: link |
Missreclusive 31.05.2012 21:34 |
waunakonor wrote:Thanks for the answer to my question. I will never admit to being middle aged. eeeshGregSynth wrote: BTW waunakonor, you have a Private Message/Mail!Well, so I do! How did you know?Missreclusive wrote: I do have a question, how old are most of the people on this forum? Curious. Seems "passion" abounds here. Btw, I don't really expect an answer. lolIt seems to me that most of us are middle aged with a few teenagers/early 20s people scattered around as well wreaking havoc. |
tero! 48531 31.05.2012 22:25 |
notimeforlosers wrote:So... If we're here only to admire the four guys that were queen until 1991, I guess it means we aren't allowed to admire the Extravangaza either? Or Queen+Paul Rodgers? Or Queen+Adam Lambert?YetAnotherFreddieFan wrote:Go to a Freddie Mercury forum instead. Here is a Queen forum, where people admire the work of Brian May, Roger Taylor, John Deacon AND Freddie Mercury, not only his. Freddie's widows piss me off so badly...The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.Nicely written review....but I'll pass. Honestly, I wouldn't go even if it were free. To each their own though. I don't like tribute bands and especially a hand-picked one by a member of "Queen +" Martel's undeniable similarity to Freddie is actually the most repulsive part. With Queen + PR, the WWRY musical, Queen + Adam Lambert and now this I can honestly say that I have zero respect left for Brian & Roger. But, hey, I only listened to Queen because of Freddie anyway. Right? |
MERQRY 31.05.2012 22:47 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.have you seen young people in the crowd?? maybe this kind of things could help to Queen legacy (and i think it would be fantastic) |
notimeforlosers 31.05.2012 23:01 |
tero! 48531 wrote:Not right. I meant we don't like Queen just because one of its members, or two, or three. We like the entirety, the work of four fabulous musicians, and Queen wouldn't have been the same without any of them. I fully agree that Queen would have never been what it is without Freddie, but I believe it wouldn't have without the other three too. Queen is a unity, the labour of F+B+R+J. And if we like Queen and admire the career, we have to pay respect for these guys that gave us the music and artistry we have enjoyed so much for decades. And even if we don't agree with some of their collaborations and/or decisions, we have to respect. Is up to them to do whathever they wanna do with the (magnificent) music they created together. I don't really like all of the things that went on in the past 20 years, but I respect all of them. And such things you quoted (QE, Q+PR, Q+AL) are totally related to the two active members, then, you can admire, and if not, respect.notimeforlosers wrote:So... If we're here only to admire the four guys that were queen until 1991, I guess it means we aren't allowed to admire the Extravangaza either? Or Queen+Paul Rodgers? Or Queen+Adam Lambert? Right?YetAnotherFreddieFan wrote:Go to a Freddie Mercury forum instead. Here is a Queen forum, where people admire the work of Brian May, Roger Taylor, John Deacon AND Freddie Mercury, not only his. Freddie's widows piss me off so badly...The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.Nicely written review....but I'll pass. Honestly, I wouldn't go even if it were free. To each their own though. I don't like tribute bands and especially a hand-picked one by a member of "Queen +" Martel's undeniable similarity to Freddie is actually the most repulsive part. With Queen + PR, the WWRY musical, Queen + Adam Lambert and now this I can honestly say that I have zero respect left for Brian & Roger. But, hey, I only listened to Queen because of Freddie anyway. That's what I meant. By the way, I admire the QE project. =) |
tcg 31.05.2012 23:06 |
Just got in from the Detroit show. Is it Queen? Of course not. Is Martel Freddie? Of course not. Is that what I paid to see? Nope. Is it a talented group of musicians and singers performing my favorite music in a concert (loud) setting? Absolutely. Would I pay to see it again? I sure would. Now, just to clarify, I have seen Queen every time they came to Detroit starting in '78 or '79 including QPR. Would I love to see all of Queen together including Freddie? Of course I would but that ain't happening. This show was a whole bunch of people with one thing in common, rockin' to some of the best music ever written. And they were rockin'. I saw old people, young people, old people with little kids and kids who knew the words to most of the songs. I saw people standing, cheering and signing along. Of course this is Detroit, home of the greatest rock n roll audiences in the world so I expected that. I took my 27 year old daughter and her boyfriend. My daughter is a Queen fan, her boyfriend was familiar with Queen but not a hard core fan. I knew my kid would have fun but the boyfriend said he really enjoyed it. I don't see a downside to this show. |
Gregsynth 31.05.2012 23:23 |
I was at the Detroit show, and it was absolutely awesome. When I wake in the morning, and not be slightly tipsy, I'll post my fan story/review! BTW, the recording turned out great, but I'm gonna kill the guy sitting next to me for hitting off key falsetto notes during some songs and cracking when speaking! haha |
The Real Wizard 31.05.2012 23:31 |
MERQRY wrote:It was a good mixture. I'd like to say there were more young people, but it seemed pretty equal all around.The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.have you seen young people in the crowd?? maybe this kind of things could help to Queen legacy (and i think it would be fantastic) |
Missreclusive 31.05.2012 23:33 |
MERQRY wrote:I'm taking two kids ages 12 and 7 to the Houston show. My 12 yr old is a pretty big fan of Queen. The 7 year old sings along and asks me a lot of questions. He saw a picture of Roger on my computer the other day and said "Hey! Roger Taylor! Drummer for Queen!" I fully intend to pass on my love for the best band ever.The Real Wizard wrote: I cannot recommend this show highly enough.have you seen young people in the crowd?? maybe this kind of things could help to Queen legacy (and i think it would be fantastic) |
waunakonor 01.06.2012 00:18 |
Saw it in Detroit, and met Greg briefly as well. That was interesting.
I won't bother writing a long review because Greg will inevitably do it for me, so I'll just make a couple notes.
Some people were complaining about the lack of The Show Must Go On; well, they did that in Detroit. It was nice, though the singing seemed a bit off, and it felt a bit heavier than it should. Also, it seems that in place of SMGO they removed Seven Seas of Rhye. I think I prefer SMGO slightly over SSoR though.
You Take My Breath Away is gorgeous!
I really like how they juxtaposed Sunday Afternoon and Love With My Car, so that it went immediately from one to the other just like on the album. That was fun.
Finally, I hope this doesn't sound to weird, but when Jennifer, who is already mildly attractive, starts singing the hard rock part of my favorite song ever, it's kind of sexy. Just saying.
If I have anything else notable to say, I will, but as I just mentioned Greg probably will as well.
Gregsynth wrote: I was at the Detroit show, and it was absolutely awesome. When I wake in the morning, and not be slightly tipsy, I'll post my fan story/review! BTW, the recording turned out great, but I'm gonna kill the guy sitting next to me for hitting off key falsetto notes during some songs and cracking when speaking! hahaHaha, I'm pretty sure I was doing that, though I was on the other side of the auditorium. |
Gregsynth 01.06.2012 00:27 |
waunakonor wrote: Saw it in Detroit, and met Greg briefly as well. That was interesting. I won't bother writing a long review because Greg will inevitably do it for me, so I'll just make a couple notes. Some people were complaining about the lack of The Show Must Go On; well, they did that in Detroit. It was nice, though the singing seemed a bit off, and it felt a bit heavier than it should. Also, it seems that in place of SMGO they removed Seven Seas of Rhye. I think I prefer SMGO slightly over SSoR though. You Take My Breath Away is gorgeous! I really like how they juxtaposed Sunday Afternoon and Love With My Car, so that it went immediately from one to the other just like on the album. That was fun. Finally, I hope this doesn't sound to weird, but when Jennifer, who is already mildly attractive, starts singing the hard rock part of my favorite song ever, it's kind of sexy. Just saying. If I have anything else notable to say, I will, but as I just mentioned Greg probably will as well.Haha. It was cool to meet you! It's nice to have a forum to talk about a band, and then meet forum members in person! The guy hitting bad notes, was literally 2 seats down from me (he's on the recording--prepare for laughter)!Gregsynth wrote: I was at the Detroit show, and it was absolutely awesome. When I wake in the morning, and not be slightly tipsy, I'll post my fan story/review! BTW, the recording turned out great, but I'm gonna kill the guy sitting next to me for hitting off key falsetto notes during some songs and cracking when speaking! hahaHaha, I'm pretty sure I was doing that, though I was on the other side of the auditorium. |
waunakonor 01.06.2012 10:35 |
Yeah, you talked a bit about that after the show as well. If I weren't on this site, I wouldn't have known much about this show and I wouldn't have known that someone awesome like you were there. So, I guess Queenzone, with all it's little quirks, some more lovable than others, is a lot of fun. |
notimeforlosers 01.06.2012 23:45 |
In the Lap of the Gods (exerpt) In the Lap of the Gods... Revisited Radio GaGa link Amazing version of In the Lap of the Gods, even it was just an excerpt. The intro harmonies, just perfect. Martel amazing as always in everything he takes part. His Radio GaGa makes me forget that I'm so tired of the song. |
Missreclusive 02.06.2012 00:30 |
notimeforlosers wrote: In the Lap of the Gods (exerpt) In the Lap of the Gods... Revisited Radio GaGa link Amazing version of In the Lap of the Gods, even it was just an excerpt. The intro harmonies, just perfect. Martel amazing as always in everything he takes part. His Radio GaGa makes me forget that I'm so tired of the song. This is great! As far as I can hear/see, QE has put their own magic to the great music we all love. It's truely a celebration of something I now hold near and dear. Cant wait to see them in Houston and just might have to go to the Dallas show too. I agree with a comment I read that this is about as close to hearing Freddie live that we will ever experience. There are certainly "moments" when Martel sounds like Freddie. Obviously he isn't trying to duplicate the great FM. As for me, I blast Queen in the car all of the time and preferably the live recordings. |
Missreclusive 02.06.2012 00:30 |
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brunogorski 02.06.2012 11:56 |
Somebody to Love (Toronto show): link LOL!!!!!!! Oh, Martel, what did you do? =P |
brunogorski 02.06.2012 14:39 |
The Show Must Go On: link |
Missreclusive 02.06.2012 14:41 |
Did Detroit not have a big turn out? I found one review that called the audience "sparse". |
Gregsynth 02.06.2012 15:17 |
Missreclusive wrote: Did Detroit not have a big turn out? I found one review that called the audience "sparse".When I was there, it was pretty packed! |
Missreclusive 02.06.2012 15:33 |
link Only one Detroit show, so not sure why the reviewer reported sparse. |
Gregsynth 02.06.2012 15:45 |
Yeah, I don't get that. It makes it seem like the show wasn't well-attended, but I saw that most of the main floor seats were sold-out! |
Your Fairy King 02.06.2012 19:20 |
The Chicago June 1st footage just up on YouTube is the best so far. Check it. |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners 02.06.2012 19:36 |
They put on a dynamite show in Chicago last night! Overwhelming! I agree with many of the previous comments made about the recent shows, and felt that overall the quality of performance from every member is staggeringly high. If you're in a position to see this show you must! The sound is fantastic: the balance of voices & guitars, the arrangements, the sound of the instruments. It's clearly a labor of love for the QE band and it makes all the difference. The faithful reproduction of the original album sounds (LOASA, ITLOTG, BR, BR, YTMBA, et al) is utterly jaw-dropping! It all absolutely warms my heart! Chicago footage being posted on YouTube now, at least 7 tracks so far... here's one. link |
GonnaUseMyPrisoners 02.06.2012 19:58 |
One afterthought about the set list: yes, to my sheer delight, it seemed heavier on songs from QII, SHA, ANATO, and ADATR. Even when I finally got to see them live in 1980 & 1982, they no longer played many of these songs. So it was a real treat to hear such good renditions live. But that choice of emphasis leaves room, IMO, to also construct a different set, with focus on other albums, at a future time. If I had to guess, and I don't (but I will), I suspect this is just the inaugural version of the tour, and that we'll see QE evolve into a second tour that have more songs from NOTW, Jazz, Game, FG, (for example) and a third with Works, AKOM, Miracle, Innuendo, MIH... wouldn't that be lovely? |
MadTheSwine73 02.06.2012 22:14 |
That WOULD be awesome. |
tsskiller 03.06.2012 00:14 |
I can't wait to see them in Philadelphia on June 7th...it's quite sad that I live in NYC, but it's more convenient to go to a venue in Philly rather than one in Long Island. That's what I get for not having a car... |
The Real Wizard 03.06.2012 03:25 |
brunogorski wrote: The Show Must Go On: linkAbsolutely. Fucking. Incredible. Martel sounds almost exactly like Mercury on this one. |
on my way up 03.06.2012 04:21 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Brian and Roger should REALLY tour with Martel...brunogorski wrote: The Show Must Go On: linkAbsolutely. Fucking. Incredible. Martel sounds almost exactly like Mercury on this one. It'd be the most fitting tribute to their late frontman EVER: people would realise that FM had such a voice combined with all his other talents (songwriter, first class entertainer, frontman, ...)and in the meantime they could enjoy some mindblowing performances. |
Supersonic_Man89 03.06.2012 05:22 |
I'm not usually a fan of Roger & Brian's more recent ideas...I think Adam Lambert's a terrible choice to tour with, his voice simply doesn't suit the Queen style, and it just sounds wrong to be honest. I wonder if Adam Lambert wasn't famous, whether he'd still be their no. 1 guy. Because if you take fame out of the equation, then there are certainly better singers out there and this QE tour proves it. I'm just basing things on a few Youtube clips, but it actually seems pretty good. I admire the fact they didn't just play the hits, they're introducing album tracks to an American audience, almost like they're a current band introducing their new songs to a crowd. I think despite it seeming like the whole QE is commercially regurgitating Queen to a new audience, after seeing a few clips it seems like everyone involved are really enjoying themselves and care about what they're doing, they've certainly put in the hours in rehearsals and it shows. My main concern for a project like this would be whether it would reach the high bar that Queen in the past have set, and although I personally wouldn't choose to see QE (I'd prefer to put on a Queen DVD, but that's just me) I think they should be proud of what they've done so far. It's almost like Roger Taylor had seen a few tribute acts and gone 'Stop doing Queen wrong!!!' and set up his own one. |
john bodega 03.06.2012 05:58 |
This has to be awkward for Brian and Roger. They've committed to performing with some C-grade dope, and in the meantime they've got Martel singing his arse off over in Queen Extravaganza. The guy is really earning his keep. He deserves to be guesting with actual Queen. |
cmsdrums 03.06.2012 06:36 |
Spot on Zebonka |
ptr 03.06.2012 08:16 |
Im not posting here a lot of comments, but I have to say, that I think the ideas about Brian and Roger touring with Marc Martel are very disrespectful to Freddie... And I think that its sad to read that on fans forum! My point of view: 1.) When you are accepting this guy (and he is very good singer!) as the one who is the closest to Freddie and that he is able to sing that stuff "almost like Freddie" (which is nonsense - in fact, that TSMGO you linked here is miles miles away behind the studio original and miles away behind Pauls version from Sheffield IMO) - then it means that you are even able to accept "almost uknown guy" as replace of one of greatest music star ever. Its like admiting "he is not the only one", because you are able to "accept him" in Freddie's position because you hear similarities (which are NOT there - but you wish them to be there!).... In my point of view, Freddie is absolutely irreplaceable - his singing is absolutely unique. The best way how to keep THIS in everyones mind is to find another great singer, who will sing the Queen songs totally different. Thats the reason why I think that looking for "2nd Freddie" is fault - and I think that its sad, that even Queen fans are able to say that you would accept anyone to even "get close to be 2nd Freddie" - there is noone like that - no Martel, no other guys from tribute bands, just noone. 2.) QPR were great because of that cooperation of musicians which were at the same league. Brian - Roger - Paul, it was exactly as Brian said at the beginning - Paul Rodgers is the singer who is not the "poor relative", he is rock star with even longer career than Bri and Rog. So everything seems natural - similar age, similar roots, similar careers.... new way of singing of legendary songs.... What more can fans ask? :) I think that Lambert is going to be just Brian's / Roger's "yes boy" - he will do exactly what he would be asked to do.... And that's the biggest fault of that all. Four five "tribute" concerts? Fine, regular real cooperation? It will never happen..... |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 10:43 |
I can't help but voice the obvious here and I'm sure its been said before. IF you want to go hear Queens songs live and LOUD then Martel joining Bri and Rog would be my choice! If Bri and Rog wanna write new stuff then fine, do it with PR or AL or whoever. Personally it is so VERY not disrespectful to Freddie to showcase his music and voice through Martel. In fact it's quite the opposite allowing people to go hear it live and hear someone who can do Freddies voice some justice even though no one on the planet could be exact. The other thing Martel does is introduce Queens "sound" to the younger generation LIVE. He wont have the stage presence nor be the showman Freddie was yet, from what I see he's doing great, I applaude him. I wish for the old tunes to be carried forward, for the younger kids to grow to love them and keep it going. I see QE as very intrumental in doing this. Hey, I love live music. I would go hear great country band live but would not listen to a country radio station or purchase a country cd. Point is, if you want pure unadulterated Queen, then listen to a cd...if you want a live and loud Queen experience then QE is the best and Martel plus Roger and Brian would be sold out world wide. |
ptr 03.06.2012 11:01 |
Missreclusive: Queen Extravaganza is good thing. I have absolutely no problem with that project. I would have a problem with big cooperation Brian & Roger with Martel. By the words big cooperation I mean regular touring or recording, suggestions to regular project ala QPR with Marc Martel are disrespectful to Freddie IMO. |
Another Roger (re) 03.06.2012 11:03 |
ptr wrote: Im not posting here a lot of comments, but I have to say, that I think the ideas about Brian and Roger touring with Marc Martel are very disrespectful to Freddie... And I think that its sad to read that on fans forum!My point of view:1.) When you are accepting this guy (and he is very good singer!) as the one who is the closest to Freddie and that he is able to sing that stuff "almost like Freddie" (which is nonsense - in fact, that TSMGO you linked here is miles miles away behind the studio original and miles away behind Pauls version from Sheffield IMO) - then it means that you are even able to accept "almost uknown guy" as replace of one of greatest music star ever. Its like admiting "he is not the only one", because you are able to "accept him" in Freddie's position because you hear similarities (which are NOT there - but you wish them to be there!).... In my point of view, Freddie is absolutely irreplaceable - his singing is absolutely unique.If you can not hear similiarities between Freddie Mercury and Marc Martel I have to question your will to hear it. You probably don't want to. Their voices have obvious similiaties in certain areas. Sometimes its just like hearing Freddie. I have never heard anyone being this similar before to be honest. |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 11:32 |
Another Roger (re) wrote:I agree. Anyone who doesn't hear it, doesn't want to. Freddie was and still is so loved and missed. I'm very excited to get to experience QE. I also feel that Martel is very respectful to Freddie's memory. He's not trying to be Freddie but rather produce the sound so Q fans old and new can enjoy a live experience. I did see an interview with Roger where he addressed the Q cover bands saying most weren't good at all. So yes, I think he took it on to try to duplicate the live sound as close as possible. It's all about havin fun. I'm not a musician, nor an expert in any of this. I'm only a fan of all things Queen.ptr wrote: Im not posting here a lot of comments, but I have to say, that I think the ideas about Brian and Roger touring with Marc Martel are very disrespectful to Freddie... And I think that its sad to read that on fans forum!My point of view:1.) When you are accepting this guy (and he is very good singer!) as the one who is the closest to Freddie and that he is able to sing that stuff "almost like Freddie" (which is nonsense - in fact, that TSMGO you linked here is miles miles away behind the studio original and miles away behind Pauls version from Sheffield IMO) - then it means that you are even able to accept "almost uknown guy" as replace of one of greatest music star ever. Its like admiting "he is not the only one", because you are able to "accept him" in Freddie's position because you hear similarities (which are NOT there - but you wish them to be there!).... In my point of view, Freddie is absolutely irreplaceable - his singing is absolutely unique.If you can not hear similiarities between Freddie Mercury and Marc Martel I have to question your will to hear it. You probably don't want to. Their voices have obvious similiaties in certain areas. Sometimes its just like hearing Freddie. I have never heard anyone being this similar before to be honest. |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 11:37 |
ptr wrote: Missreclusive: Queen Extravaganza is good thing. I have absolutely no problem with that project. I would have a problem with big cooperation Brian & Roger with Martel. By the words big cooperation I mean regular touring or recording, suggestions to regular project ala QPR with Marc Martel are disrespectful to Freddie IMO.I'm sorry, I just don't get it? Do you think Freddie would be upset? I'm not sure I understand anyone being upset at all with any of it. I dislike AL and PR touring with them, would I go see them? Yes, to see Roger and Brian but I would LOVE to see Martel with them and hear something closer to Freddie. So, does your view make you more of a "purist" for all things Queen or is it my view that would dictate such? |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 11:37 |
ptr wrote: Missreclusive: Queen Extravaganza is good thing. I have absolutely no problem with that project. I would have a problem with big cooperation Brian & Roger with Martel. By the words big cooperation I mean regular touring or recording, suggestions to regular project ala QPR with Marc Martel are disrespectful to Freddie IMO.I'm sorry, I just don't get it? Do you think Freddie would be upset? I'm not sure I understand anyone being upset at all with any of it. I dislike AL and PR touring with them, would I go see them? Yes, to see Roger and Brian but I would LOVE to see Martel with them and hear something closer to Freddie. So, does your view make you more of a "purist" for all things Queen or is it my view that would dictate such? |
ptr 03.06.2012 13:28 |
No - I dont know what would Freddie think about this so Im not trying to pretend that... :) Easily: - accepting anyone who is Freddie "lookalike" or "soundalike" for full cooperation with Brian and Roger is IMHO disrespectful to Freddie, because that simply "denies" that Freddie's uniqueness. Noone REALLY sounds like him and its just a question when you will discover that... I think that Martel is great singer with great voice, but definately NOT 2nd Freddie, or "Freddie's reincarnation"... I dont get that "looking for" Freddie's reincarnation. He was unique and you will never find the 2nd Freddie with his voice. What totally annoyed me were the comments like that Mullen should cooperate with Brian and Roger, because he sounds like Freddie... Its simply NOT true, and the Martel is similar case. Listen to Martel's voice stop the song in the middle, find Freddie's live performance of the same song and start that track... I accept Martel in QE simply because he is great singer with nice voice, but I think that its like Mona Lisa in Louvre (Freddie's work) compared to printed poster with the Mona Lisa (Marc Martel) and saying that the printed poster is similar to DaVincis work and its enough for me... Instead of that, you can get real art - for example Mona Lisa from Andy Warhol - Paul Rodgers.... Do you get it now? :) |
Montreux 03.06.2012 13:34 |
Where can I sign your comment, Ptr? :-) |
MercurialFreddie 03.06.2012 13:46 |
I don't know whether his voice's been strained by the previous gigs but he can't hit higher notes on SMGO and by the computer effect on his voice the staff tries to compensate it. When he goes for the most hard ones in the song then it's just a sheer shriek. Otherwise it's very good performance :) |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 14:00 |
Zebonka12 wrote: This has to be awkward for Brian and Roger. They've committed to performing with some C-grade dope, and in the meantime they've got Martel singing his arse off over in Queen Extravaganza. The guy is really earning his keep. He deserves to be guesting with actual Queen.100% behind this comment. |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 14:10 |
ptr wrote: No - I dont know what would Freddie think about this so Im not trying to pretend that... :) Easily: - accepting anyone who is Freddie "lookalike" or "soundalike" for full cooperation with Brian and Roger is IMHO disrespectful to Freddie, because that simply "denies" that Freddie's uniqueness. Noone REALLY sounds like him and its just a question when you will discover that... I think that Martel is great singer with great voice, but definately NOT 2nd Freddie, or "Freddie's reincarnation"... I dont get that "looking for" Freddie's reincarnation. He was unique and you will never find the 2nd Freddie with his voice. What totally annoyed me were the comments like that Mullen should cooperate with Brian and Roger, because he sounds like Freddie... Its simply NOT true, and the Martel is similar case. Listen to Martel's voice stop the song in the middle, find Freddie's live performance of the same song and start that track... I accept Martel in QE simply because he is great singer with nice voice, but I think that its like Mona Lisa in Louvre (Freddie's work) compared to printed poster with the Mona Lisa (Marc Martel) and saying that the printed poster is similar to DaVincis work and its enough for me... Instead of that, you can get real art - for example Mona Lisa from Andy Warhol - Paul Rodgers.... Do you get it now? :)Ok, yes, since you put it that way I do understand exactly what you're saying. So, this means that the younger generation who can never see the original Queen live should never get to see the closest thing? They also shouldn't see a poster of the Mona Lisa if they cant view the original? lol...ok, I'm splitting hairs here but hey! We all have an opinion and Martel is the best I've seen so far. Once again, if Roger and Brian want to do new music ..exit Freddie, then Paul or Adam can sing. If they want to run through the old stuff, I'm for Marc. I like hearing Martel, I tolerate Paul and will not tolerate Adam. I didn't like his voice or him when he was on AI. |
ptr 03.06.2012 14:37 |
Missreclusive: Im "young" fan who never had a chance to see Queen with Freddie - I was born in 1986, but I would rather see Brian & Roger with legend than with singer who has no big career behind him... I want to see the best possible thing and that simply is not the same as "closest thing". ;) My opinion is, that the best possible thing was Q+PR or it would be cooperation Brian and Roger with another legend of similar league. And I really dont mean Lambert - its just matter of taste, I cant stand Lamberts voice. My opinion is, that there is one singer who would may be better even than PR, but its just my guess - John Farnham... his "live singing range" is even wider than Freddie's but that means nothing - chemistry is needed and Im not sure that it would work. To my commentary - Im not saying they should not see Mona Lisa on poster... They can, Mona Lisa on poster is Queen Extravaganza, but noone should pretend that you can put this poster into Louvre instead of Mona Lisa original - thats exactly what would be big cooperation Bri & Rog + Martel. |
john bodega 03.06.2012 15:20 |
Yawn, yawn, yawn. It's not disrespectful to get a singer who can do the job. It would make a nice change for Brian and Roger to pick a guy who can do it (Martel) instead of someone who makes sense in the very short term (Lambert, whose shelf life really can't last that much longer). Lambert only made sense as a guest singer on a very superficial level. Amongst Idol viewers (whose standards are very bloody low) it might've seemed he has the right characteristics to handle Queen music, but really - it's a pipe dream. He has the range, but is the wrong man for the job, unequivocally. Singers have their elements. Kerry Ellis was probably great for WWRY, but she is not whatever it was that Brian tried to make her. And so she didn't take off like they probably hoped she would. It's not knocking her abilities to say so - that's just how it is. Lambert's all wrong for Queen. That one song of his (basically "Can't Be Tamed" with different lyrics) is just barfworthy. Fucking get rid of him. Now as for Marc Martel ... I don't think that one video of Show Must Go On is his finest work, but that's a motherfucker of a song to try and sing. Freddie himself would probably make the same number of vocal flubs, but we'd forgive him because he'd be giving it his absolute best - same as Martel. I'd rather hear that than listen to that warbling idiot Adam "It's All About Me" Lambert. Marc's been distinguishing himself, not in ridiculous TV appearances with an out-of-control vibrato that makes him sound like a lamb being rogered by a hippo - but in real touring conditions with a real band. Marc's earned the job, I just hope the hell Brian and Roger wake up and give it to him. Disrespectful to Freddie? What the hell are you smoking? This is the first time since Freddie's died that they have a singer who is willing, ready and able to do the job to a standard that meets the real thing - and you think it'd be disrespectful? Stick your head in a bucket or something. |
Another Roger (re) 03.06.2012 15:33 |
Beautiful Zebonka12. I fully agree with you. How the hell can it be disrespectful to have singer that has the ability and tone to sing queensongs. His voice makes me feel like its Queen. Rodgers made me feel that it was a Paul Rodgers solo tour with Brian and Roger as backing. It will be the same with Lambert. We dont want that? Queen music needs a singer with a certain colour and feeling in the voice. This will never ever happen again. Brian and Roger: You have the chance now, but soon its gone. |
pipijolk 03.06.2012 15:33 |
Queen is scheduled to perform at the 2012 Olympic ceremonies, probably the closing event and not the opener... Closing would be August. I really hope they are considering bringing some element of the QE to their Olympic show. They've talked about PR, and AL is out there, but I think the biggest WOW would come from Marc Martel doing at least a few of the show stoppers, Love of My Life, Bohemian, Show Must Go On, etc. Even JSS and Marc on Under Pressure would be a highlight. They wouldn't necessarily have to be the only 'Band unit' as they could still have a PR and or AL be there if they felt it would be fine... But I think QE would be the best option. |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 17:09 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: Beautiful Zebonka12. I fully agree with you. How the hell can it be disrespectful to have singer that has the ability and tone to sing queensongs. His voice makes me feel like its Queen. Rodgers made me feel that it was a Paul Rodgers solo tour with Brian and Roger as backing. It will be the same with Lambert. We dont want that? Queen music needs a singer with a certain colour and feeling in the voice. This will never ever happen again. Brian and Roger: You have the chance now, but soon its gone.Zebonka and Another R, thanks for expressing it intelligently and with grace. I love Z 's lil rant bout AL! Yay, someone who feels zactly like I do about him and Rodgers. Thanks. |
Missreclusive 03.06.2012 17:13 |
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Your Fairy King 03.06.2012 18:42 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Disrespectful to Freddie? What the hell are you smoking? This is the first time since Freddie's died that they have a singer who is willing, ready and able to do the job to a standard that meets the real thing - and you think it'd be disrespectful? Stick your head in a bucket or something.I am behind this statement 100%. |
ptr 03.06.2012 23:40 |
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ptr 03.06.2012 23:48 |
"This is the first time since Freddie's died that they have a singer who is willing, ready and able to do the job to a standard that meets the real thing - and you think it'd be disrespectful?" So you are saying that what is Martel doing is at the same level as Freddie's performing ("standard that meets the real thing")??? That IS disrespectful to Freddie, because it's simply not true! Its not disrespectful from Martel, but its disrespectful (or maybe discredit) from fan who says THAT! You (fans) usually say that FM is the one and only one, the greatest singer ever, outstanding performer etc. and now you would by satisfied with "uknown" guy in his position, because you WANT to be fooled by thinking "its almost the same as original" - which is not true? |
ptr 04.06.2012 00:26 |
"How the hell can it be disrespectful to have singer that has the ability and tone to sing queensongs. His voice makes me feel like its Queen. Rodgers made me feel that it was a Paul Rodgers solo tour with Brian and Roger as backing" Its about the result you are looking for.... I know that there is no 2nd Freddie, so I want the best possible thing, not trying to "find" illusion of original Queen, because it would be just fooling my own mind. BTW if PR made you feel that it was PR's solo tour with Bri and Rog - its nothing wrong, its great compliment to PR's job in fact, because it means that it worked naturally.... Again - you cant get new original Queen, why you are trying to find them? Instead of that, you can get a supergroup (its musical term) with great singer (thats what QPR were) who brings new attitude to the classics.... The positive things? There is quality guaranteed by the name of the singer, his tradition and history. Its interesting, because of new ways of singing.... The only "negative" thing - it has nothing to do with original Queen. But that's not what Im looking for. The greatest respect to Freddie IMO means the admitting "he is the only one and we know that" and stop that madness with trying to put "wannabe" Freddie singers into his positions. |
cmsdrums 04.06.2012 02:39 |
The major thing with Martel is that he isn't trying at all to impersonate Freddie, and isn't actively searching to replicate his voice and his moves (as someone like Gary Mullen does pretty well). If Bri and Roger were to play with someone like Gary Mullen it would possibly be very wrong, and seen as trying to replace Freddie, but Martel just happens to be gifted with a great voice, which is quite similar to Freddie's in some places, and so he is able to pay tribute to the songs properly without any accusations of 'trying to be Freddie'. To me, the best compliment (as opposed to it being an insult as one main poster is trying to say here) would be to have Martel play with them and do these fabulous songs justice. The real insult is tarnishing the music by hooking up with Lambert long after the initial giddiness of seeing him sing on American Idol had worn off. Yes, Paul Rodgers was welcomed to get them back on the road and back in the studio, but after a while he soon stopped trying to pay tribute to the songs and was intent on fucking them over by making up totally new melodies when they simply weren't needed. Bri and Rog NEED to do at least a show or two with Martel in order to deliver the type of set list we're seeing on the QE dates, and they can finally bow out from regular performance in style - that would be a very fitting tribute for Freddie, and their music. |
ptr 04.06.2012 03:00 |
cmsdrums: I would have no problem with two three tribute concerts with various singers and Martel included. Im saying that I would not agree with big cooperation like with Rodgers was - tour(s) with live album(s) / DVD(s)... That would be insult. There is big difference between individual concert as tribute and real concert tour which looks like "the band is running". Fully agree with opinions about Lambert, I dont agree with that too and Im very worried that the 5 shows which are planned now are sadly just the beginning of something much bigger. :( |
john bodega 04.06.2012 03:10 |
"So you are saying that what is Martel doing is at the same level as Freddie's performing ("standard that meets the real thing")???" Nope. I'm saying he's -better- Why don't you give some '84 shows a spin, and permanently put to bed the idea that Freddie was infallible? He fucked up, the same as everyone who's ever been on a stage. Martel's the best option. And he's not even wearing a fake moustache and a yellow jacket. We've been given everything (absolutely everything) we've been begging for over the past 20 years, and what happens? We have dinguses claiming it'd be disrespectful for him to play with Brian and Roger. How thick can you be? |
ptr 04.06.2012 04:11 |
Zebonka12: You are putting the words into my mouth... I have never said, that Freddie was always perfect... Every singer makes faults, every singer gets cold, every singer can have the bad shape. I dont idolize him, I dont idolize no one... Honestly, I dont consider myself even as true hardcore Queen fan - there are bands that I like more than Queen, there are even singers that I adore even more than Freddie, so Im far from that statements that you tried to put into my mouth. I just respect Freddie as one of the greatest singers in history (and I think no one doubts about it) and the only people with "similar" reputation and career should be put into position of lead singer with Brian and Roger. How many singers in the world have the similar reputation as Freddie? Very very few.... I can assure you just in this: Martel is not among them. |
GratefulFan 04.06.2012 05:55 |
cmsdrums wrote: The major thing with Martel is that he isn't trying at all to impersonate Freddie, and isn't actively searching to replicate his voice and his moves (as someone like Gary Mullen does pretty well). If Bri and Roger were to play with someone like Gary Mullen it would possibly be very wrong, and seen as trying to replace Freddie, but Martel just happens to be gifted with a great voice, which is quite similar to Freddie's in some places, and so he is able to pay tribute to the songs properly without any accusations of 'trying to be Freddie'.Martel absolutely is actively seeking to replicate parts of Fred's voice and tone. His work with his own band sounds little like his work with QE and much more like an adult contemporary voice. Martel himself described his talent for mimicry of voices in the Nessun Dorma video recorded well before QE. It's certainly not a criticism to note that he has tapped this talent to deliver the material in a familiar yet authentic way largely devoid of cheese, but the implication that there are not significant elements of active imitation is simply incorrect in my view. It's nice to see so many hard core fans excited about this and so thoroughly enjoying the shows. The only slightly surprising thing to me is that he never seems to get called out for a vibrato that goes a little over the top sometimes. But that's a small complaint. |
rgmix 04.06.2012 07:09 |
The thing is a huge part of Queen's unique sound was Freddie, nothing wrong with wanting somebody able to replicate that. Queen singing with somebody like Martel would only show respect and acknowledgement towards Freddie IMO. Nobody is that stupid to think this guy (or anybody) can replace him, in fact Freddie would always be in everybody's minds. The point is Queen don't sound like themselves without that type of voice, period. When you go to a Queen concert you expect a specific sound and feel, everything else is disappointing even if some people don't admit it. If Queen decided to continue without Freddie, they should respect their sound. I don't care if Martel tries to replicate Freddie's voice, as long as he does a good job and doesn't sound ridiculous. Again, Freddie's the one in everybody's minds anyway. I only hope Martel's beautiful voice can take some punishment, we all know what it means to (really) sing Queen songs live. Sorry for bad English. |
john bodega 04.06.2012 09:06 |
"I can assure you just in this: Martel is not among them" Your assurances aren't worth the stuff I wash out of my belly button. You're the sort of person who thought Axl Rose did a good job at the Tribute; putting profile before actual talent. |
Fone Bone 04.06.2012 09:26 |
Tut-tut Zebonka has the right of it Judging from the videos that have popped on YouTube 1/ I labeled the whole venture disgraceful (a tribute band cast on YouTube, yikes) and I was embarassingly wrong : it's quite awesome 2/ The setlist is just what I want from a post-Queen project (highlighting the 70's, when Queen was at it's songwriting peak) 3/ God is officially a Canadian : Martel, what a find !! His love of my life, his Bo Rhap, even his Radio GaGa, a song we all grew so tired of, what a thrill ! His renditions are just more enjoyable than the Adam Lambert MTV performances, the WWRY cameos, even some of the lesser QPR moments. OF COURSE it would be great to have him peform with Rog and Bri Lambert has got the pressure on, I tell you For GregSynth : Does Martel sing TSMGO in the original key ? It sounds as if he does, and suffers for it a bit. Is Jennifer Espinoza really the seriously pitch-challenged singer we see and hear on YouTube ? |
ptr 04.06.2012 09:32 |
Zebonka12: Again, you are absolutely wrong. You dont know me, you dont know my music taste, so stop putting these hillarious things into my mouth... From whole Tribute concert, only 3 singers did a really good job IMO: Roger Daltrey in I Want It All, Seal with Who Wants To Live Forever and George Michael in Somebody To Love. For example Robert Plant (who is in the list of fans usually very high) was just terrible in all tracks (and I really dont think that monitors breakup was the cause). But noone from named did the job that would be as good as Rodgers did in particular songs in 2005-2008, just George Michael got close to the "perfect" performance. For example Rodgers take of Tie, Fat Bottomed or I Want It All - he made these songs as that tracks would be written for him.... That's sign of perfection... |
Missreclusive 04.06.2012 10:28 |
Never argue with a true passive/agressive person, you will surely wind up placing the bucket over your own head and walk away. My dear, you are being quite silly! Obvious as the nose on your face. Marc must have somehow rubbed you the wrong way (ah yes, even tho you say he is a great singer) He IS what some of us, if not ALL of us have waited for. This is repetitive...he can do the songs justice if only Brian and Roger will take him on. Where's the bucket? |
AdamMethos 04.06.2012 11:29 |
Unlurking... Martel said in interviews that he does push his voice to do Freddie but he doesn't have to go far to get there, and also that in his own music he's trying to find his own voice and not sound like someone else. However, he also said that even when he tries not to sound like Freddie, he still gets people coming up to him after Downhere concerts with the "You sound like that guy from Queen" line. I got sucked into buying some his band's music and I noticed that in their earlier songs, Martel tends to sound more Freddie-like. In their recent songs, he tends to sound (strangely enough) more like George Michael from the Wham! days. Since George Michael also sounds great singing Queen, it makes me think there's some underlying thread in the voices of Freddie, Martel and Michael that I'm not musically knowledgeable enough to pinpoint. I think Martel's Freddie-voice has more to do with phrasing and intonation (e.g. sing with an English accent) than changing the timbre of his voice. On the QE tour, I think he is singing "Love of My Life" in his "natural" voice since the arrangement doesn't seem to match a version that Queen has done. It's also (to my ears) the song where he sounds the least like Freddie although I can still hear traces of Freddie-ness in parts. |
john bodega 04.06.2012 12:07 |
Seal was crap. George Michael was good and tasteful, and the only reason that people have such fond memories of his performance is because they were expecting Wham fluff, and what they got was competence. They'd forgotten that he could sing a song decently, and the surprise has lingered ever since then. Roger Daltrey was really the only guy who delivered a song as intended at the Tribute. He gave it a good kicking, and the only people who don't like that performance are the same poor nutjobs who just don't get The Who. Now that we have all of that out of the way, please - stop smoking whatever it is that you're smoking. Paul Rodgers was crap. He impressed me on his first couple of outings because he sounded like he was trying, but he very quickly turned the Queen shows into cruisy, boring, risk-free ventures. When the album came around, his nauseating voice had really overstayed its welcome. "I wander threeeeuuuuhh the niiiight". Holy crap, anyone who could keep their food in their stomach during that song should work at the Ipecac Testing Ground. The fact that Brian's "I Want It All" was better than Paul Rodgers' (who is supposed to be some kind of big name fuckin' singer) speaks volumes. PR couldn't remember the lyrics half of the time, and wasted his breath trying to be some kind of blues hero, with unnecessary and vomitous blues trills left right and center - all the while relying on Brian to save the day when it got to the tough bits. 'I want it NOOOOOWWWW' - that big B note? That was Brian. Fact is that there's nothing really wrong with what Martel is doing, and you don't know how to handle it. You are genuinely ill if you think the idea of hiring the right man for the job equates to some kind of disrespect, after all these years of flawed collaborations, mismatches and plain bad decisions. Seek help, or at the very least get someone who knows the English language to help to understand what 'disrespect' actually means, because I suspect you haven't got a damned clue. |
john bodega 04.06.2012 12:10 |
"and the only people with "similar" reputation and career should be put into position of lead singer with Brian and Roger. How many singers in the world have the similar reputation as Freddie? Very very few.... " I can't get over how absolutely stupid this is... Do you suggest they hire someone who's crap because they've got a 'reputation', and what - ignore capable performers because they don't?? Help me to understand this, because you make absolutely no sense. |
Missreclusive 04.06.2012 12:44 |
AdamMethos wrote: Unlurking... I think Martel's Freddie-voice has more to do with phrasing and intonation (e.g. sing with an English accent) than changing the timbre of his voice. On the QE tour, I think he is singing "Love of My Life" in his "natural" voice since the arrangement doesn't seem to match a version that Queen has done. It's also (to my ears) the song where he sounds the least like Freddie although I can still hear traces of Freddie-ness in parts.Hello, recently unlurked too. I agree. I like his rendition of LOML, yet, wasn't expecting the lack of Freddie-ness. I'm having a tough time accepting the girl even though I understand why she's there. I think to Roger it was mostly about sound, quality and of course entertainment. Did you see QE or are you going to? |
ptr 04.06.2012 12:59 |
Zebonka12: We will never agree in this. Case closed. :) Its legitimate - you probably still want to find 2nd Freddie (I mean vocally), once you would probably agree with Gary Mullen, now Marc Martel was "discovered"... In 2013-2014 its maybe going to be another guy from European version of Queen Extravaganza? My opinion is that admiting that "he sounds similarly enough as Freddie that he cooperate with Brian and Roger and they should make a charade almost like that we are back in 1980s" is dehonesting of Freddie's and Queen's name. Freddie was unique. Period. Sorry, but thats how I see that. My opinion is that Brian&Roger should cooperate with people on their own level = music legends. My opinion is that "closest to the original" and "highest quality" is not the same, because you can never achieve that original, so why even "try"? Is that so hard to understand? :) |
Missreclusive 04.06.2012 13:31 |
ptr wrote: Zebonka12: We will never agree in this. Case closed. :) Its legitimate - you probably still want to find 2nd Freddie (I mean vocally), once you would probably agree with Gary Mullen, now Marc Martel was "discovered"... In 2013-2014 its maybe going to be another guy from European version of Queen Extravaganza? My opinion is that admiting that "he sounds similarly enough as Freddie that he cooperate with Brian and Roger and they should make a charade almost like that we are back in 1980s" is dehonesting of Freddie's and Queen's name. Freddie was unique. Period. Sorry, but thats how I see that. My opinion is that Brian&Roger should cooperate with people on their own level = music legends. My opinion is that "closest to the original" and "highest quality" is not the same, because you can never achieve that original, so why even "try"? Is that so hard to understand? :)Gary Mullen? Nice guy but how to place him and Martel in the same basket? Please, don't answer this because the way I see it, that is disrespectful to remaining Queen. It was put this way, its a feeling, along with talent and a lot of other things that make it jive. MM is the first I've seen that could have what it takes all around. He wont upstage Bri and Rog (PR and AL) and he just has "it". That is if the chemistry is right and of course that's up to remaining Queen. Well, my young friend, you have been entertaining, sort of. I'm no expert. I only know what I enjoy. BTW, this is a great site for learning. Thanks to all of you who contribute so much to this site, much appreciated. The humor can make my otherwise mundane day. |
john bodega 04.06.2012 13:39 |
"once you would probably agree with Gary Mullen" I'm peering through the murk of your Pidgin English to try and understand what it is you're saying here. I don't care for Gary Mullen. He was once very good. The last time I heard him he'd lost his voice. In any case, I wouldn't like to see him performing with Queen. It's not about an impersonation, it's about doing the music a service. Martel does that, consistently. You are being wildly illogical, here. What is your assertion - that they shouldn't be playing with anyone because nobody is Freddie? If that were your opinion then you wouldn't be singing the praises of Paul "Hey Who Am I Singing For Again?" Rodgers. Maybe you're having a hard time getting your opinion across because I only care about the music, and you've got some other asinine considerations at the forefront of your thinking. I think that's probably it. And, it really needs to be said - Freddie doesn't need respect. He's dead. Dead people don't care. You have the records there if you want to reminisce. Some of us are more interested in fucking living. |
ptr 04.06.2012 14:16 |
Are we getting to the phase that you ask me the names, that I would love to see with Brian and Roger on stage? There are not many singers in their league, but I mentioned one of them - I would love to see them touring with John Farnham (he already did WWRY with them): link Then comes "return" of Paul Rodgers. We have absolutely different opinion about him. Another singer who I can imagine on stage with Queen would be Glenn Hughes (I know how controversial his singing style is - his other Queen cover of Killer Queen is terrible): link Sadly that's just my imagination and fiction after May 2010 - I would love to know how would Queen sound with RJD, because he was awesome singing improviser on stage - he sang songs different each night and thats what I like to hear (Rodgers does similar thing, but he's not that kind of "master" in that as Ronnie was). |
Gregsynth 04.06.2012 14:40 |
For my two cents: Having Marc Martel sing Queen songs is far from disrespectful. I saw that man live in Detroit, and he was amazing. He didn't copy Freddie's moves, and he sang with his own style. The only way to disrespect Freddie's memory is to have a Freddie clone (that copies the stage moves, etc), sing with Brian/Roger and then slap the Queen name on it. Gary Mullen is a fantastic Freddie impersonator, but it will be illogical to have him work with Brian/Roger (and Gary himself admits that he's just a fan that wants to pay tribute to Freddie's legacy). Marc Martel has a voice that "fits" with Queen's music, and he delivers the songs very well. I talked to many people after the Detroit show, and everybody was praising Marc for his delivery of the songs. Nobody complained about "he's not Freddie" or anything. There was also younger kids that were talking to their parents about "that amazing Marc guy" and stuff. As for his TSMGO rendition, Marc does have a few rough moments--but considering how difficult that song is to sing, he did a good job. I'll take him singing that song over Adam Lambert any day of the week. He did perform that song in the original key! |
The Real Wizard 04.06.2012 14:49 |
Fone Bone wrote: For GregSynth : Does Martel sing TSMGO in the original key ? It sounds as if he does, and suffers for it a bit. Is Jennifer Espinoza really the seriously pitch-challenged singer we see and hear on YouTube ?Indeed, TSMGO is in the same key as the original, B minor. It looks like Espinoza just had opening night jitters in Montreal. She was most excellent in Toronto when I saw it. |
The Real Wizard 04.06.2012 14:51 |
Zebonka is bang on. Perhaps he's a bit hard on Paul Rodgers, but his assessment of the bigger picture is absolutely spot on. Mercury is dead, and people need to get over it. QE is all about being true the music and bringing it to the next generation in the finest way possible. They are the first band since Queen to do justice to the Queen back catalog. If anyone is within 100 miles of a QE show and chooses to give it a pass for whatever reason, you are truly missing out. |
john bodega 04.06.2012 15:38 |
"I would love to know how would Queen sound with RJD, because he was awesome singing improviser on stage - he sang songs different each night and thats what I like to hear " You'd get no argument from me there - Ronnie was absolutely the most glaring omission from the Tribute. I have never understood why he wasn't there for a song. Anyone who's ever heard "Feelings, Feelings" and then listened to some Elf records has to know that there was definitely room for a Dio guest spot at the Tribute. I really reckon he had the right sensibility as a performer to do Queen material some justice, even if it was only as a one-off. It's the sensibility that is hard to nail down. I remember listening to the last time the guy from The Darkness sang Tie Your Mother Down. And it's the weirdest thing. Despite the fact that he sounded tired and not really like someone who was putting any effort in, he still sounded sort of right for the song. It's hard to really pin down what I mean, there. I would never suggest him for guesting with Queen, but he's in that branch of the rock tree (on a good day). It really isn't just about range (Farnham) or reputation (Rodgers). Marc's just putting his head down and his tail up and doing the job the right way - trial by fire and all of that. It'd be one thing if he'd had a great Youtube audition but wasn't all that great live (like the guy that Jason Bonham discovered on Youtube and was touring with for a while there). Martel is proving himself in the most real way possible - gigging! "Perhaps he's a bit hard on Paul Rodgers" Oh, I know I am.. if I'm harsh with PR it's because I still feel a little let down. When Q+PR were cooking, you knew about it. To see when they started coasting has always been a bit of a sucker punch for me, and maybe PR isn't the one to blame - I'm not a mindreader, it might've just been the group dynamic sort of collapsing. It might've been an interesting experiment but I think it was destined to be a short lived one. |
Another Roger (re) 04.06.2012 16:21 |
Zebonka12: Even though we disagree with ptr we should speak nicely to him. He has been very calm and tackled on the ball so far. We can disagree with him without insulting him ;) |
Another Roger (re) 04.06.2012 16:22 |
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john bodega 04.06.2012 16:26 |
"we should speak nicely to him." I've been very nice. Rather, I've addressed the idea of 'Martel = disrespect' with the exact requisite amount of niceness that it deserves, and possibly a bit extra. Sincere apologies if, in an attempt to be straightforward, I sound unkind or whatever. One can't really butter some things up though. |
Another Roger (re) 04.06.2012 16:39 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "we should speak nicely to him." I've been very nice. Rather, I've addressed the idea of 'Martel = disrespect' with the exact requisite amount of niceness that it deserves, and possibly a bit extra. Sincere apologies if, in an attempt to be straightforward, I sound unkind or whatever. One can't really butter some things up though.Hehe. He has to answer for that himself. Am I the only one that thinks concerts in small theatres looks more fun than a big stadium? Of course a stadium concert looks fantastic on tv. But to actually be in the crowd must be a bit boring. The stage is so faaaar away. And the sound is probably better indoors too. |
Missreclusive 04.06.2012 18:36 |
Not that it matters but I've always preferred a small venue. Saw the Stones in a large one and it just wasn't fun, I did not have a good time. Granted, I was completely sober so maybe thats why. :-) |
AdamMethos 04.06.2012 19:08 |
Missreclusive wrote: Hello, recently unlurked too. I agree. I like his rendition of LOML, yet, wasn't expecting the lack of Freddie-ness. I'm having a tough time accepting the girl even though I understand why she's there. I think to Roger it was mostly about sound, quality and of course entertainment. Did you see QE or are you going to?Roger talked briefly about why he picked each singer in a an article for a St. Louis paper: link "We're just trying to present the music in a way that's very true to the records and our live performances. We have Marc Martel singing with us, and the weird thing is you close your eyes, and Freddie Mercury is in the room. It's an extraordinary and uncanny audio resemblance. That gives us a head start... I have a fantastic rock performer in Jeff Scott Soto. He puts over the hard rock stuff great. There's a girl, Jennifer Espinoza, who does the ballad stuff and has an incredibly low voice for a woman. She puts over some great stuff in a more melodic way. Yvan Pedneault is just a fantastic performer with a high, pure range in his voice." I went to the Toronto show. I've never seen Queen live or any tribute bands. I just know their music from the CDs and YouTube vids. So I was blown away. I loved it! The only potential problem I see with Martel singing with Queen for more than just a one-shot appearance is that he's a Christian rocker. In an interview with some Christian media just after he won the contest, he was asked what would happen if he has to sing some of Queen's more risque songs. He said something like he would talk to them and let them now how he feels, which I took to be a diplomatic way of saying that he would refuse to sing some Queen songs. That's not a problem in QE since he shares singing duties with three other people. But would it be acceptable to have him sing with Queen if some of the catalog is going to be off limits? A while back for a laugh, a friend and I made a list of "most inappropriate Queen songs that we want Marc Martel to sing" and "Get Down Make Love" topped the list. ;-) |
AdamMethos 04.06.2012 19:17 |
I prefer small theaters too where I can actually see the performers with my own eyes. In the couple stadium shows that I've been to, I basically watched the big screens at the side of the stage the whole time. I saw the Stones in a stadium and had a good time. My friend didn't though because some stoner was next to her and he kept tipping over into her lap the whole time! |
Missreclusive 04.06.2012 21:05 |
AdamM- Thanks for the article, it certainly repeats in many ways what those here already believe to be true. According to that, they have no intention of playing with Marc other than potential brief guest appearances. I sorta figured that there were songs Marc wouldnt do, lol..."Get Down Make Love" would be one I'd like to see him do also. He never sways from the fact that he's all about his Christian band. Frankly, I was suprized he would be involved at all. I do recall hearing him say he was fairly shoved into it by wife and friends because of his ability to sound like FM. Ah well, maybe he will change his mind? I think I might have had a better time at that Stones concert if I'd have had a stoner tipping into my lap! Was with my ex. He and I went to see Johnny Winter once and I swear, my ex could have doubled as a coat rack. You could always find him, standing straight and never moving an inch. Quite the ball of fire! Oh..I lie, if you looked down you could barely perceive his foot tapping.I am attending QE in Houston and if I can, Dallas too. I honestly have a hard time enjoying very many current artists, I think its a shame that we cant go back in time. |
Man from Zanzibar 05.06.2012 01:29 |
Or maybe they should focus on different songs, other that "inappropriate" ones. In fact I'm surprised they let Marc sing "Don't Stop Me Now" at all (with Jennifer on the "sex-machine" line, lol). I'm more concerned about him singing songs like "Innuendo" for example. I'm curious if he'd have a hard time delivering the "false religion"line. Other than that I see no evil in staying away from certain tracks in favor of the rest of brilliant Queen stuff. Too bad they're not gonna do "The Miracle" on QE show anytime soon. It actually fits Extravaganza a lot, considering that they're basically around age of them adorable kids "playing" real Queen's music in "The Miracle" music video. Sadly, Freddie will never show up from behind the curtains and sing "The one thing we all waiting for is peace on Earth and end to war", but Bri and Rog can (as seen on Idol). I still hope for the second part of the QE tour and them covering more early and more of the very late stuff (including Innuendo and Made in Heaven). Less "obvious" Greatest Hits. |
AdamMethos 05.06.2012 02:33 |
Well, I did wonder if the reason they have Jennifer doing the second verse of "Don't Stop Me Now" is because Marc won't sing the "I'm a sex machine ready to reload" line. Mwahaha. Actually, I doubt he's a conservative Christian since he's from Montreal and didn't have any problem with appearing on Ellen. I don't think his hesitation about doing the contest had to do with religion. I think it was more that he's a songwriter/musician and doesn't want to be pigeon-holed as just a tribute band singer or Freddie impersonator. There's a bit in this video where it looks like he's starting to say that maybe QE will give him the opportunity to write music with Queen (***pausing to wait for ptr to stop wailing***) but he catches himself just in time: link He also just put out a solo single before the tour started, and it's mainstream, so it looks like he wants to branch out beyond the Christian music scene. I don't know if that came about since he got the QE gig or if it was in the works before. "Innuendo" is such a long song (and not well-known like Bo Rhap) that QE would probably create shorter arrangement if they include it in the show. So it wouldn't be difficult for them to drop any "problem" sections. I love Made In Heaven. I think Marc would do great on "A Winter's Tale" and "Let Me Live" is a great song for the whole group. |
Man from Zanzibar 05.06.2012 03:12 |
AdamMethos wrote: I love Made In Heaven. I think Marc would do great on "A Winter's Tale" and "Let Me Live" is a great song for the whole group. Oh man, "A Winter's Tale", "Made in Heaven", "You Don't Fool Me"... heck, I'd love to hear everything including the saddest one - Mother Love. I adore the late ones as much as the stuff they did in early days. |
Fone Bone 05.06.2012 03:18 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Thanks BobFone Bone wrote: For GregSynth : Does Martel sing TSMGO in the original key ? It sounds as if he does, and suffers for it a bit. Is Jennifer Espinoza really the seriously pitch-challenged singer we see and hear on YouTube ?Indeed, TSMGO is in the same key as the original, B minor. It looks like Espinoza just had opening night jitters in Montreal. She was most excellent in Toronto when I saw it. |
Your Fairy King 05.06.2012 05:20 |
AdamMethos wrote: A while back for a laugh, a friend and I made a list of "most inappropriate Queen songs that we want Marc Martel to sing" and "Get Down Make Love" topped the list. ;-)So I guess this means he won't trot out the Big Spender encore. |
ptr 05.06.2012 05:25 |
Gregsynth wrote: For my two cents: Having Marc Martel sing Queen songs is far from disrespectful. I saw that man live in Detroit, and he was amazing. He didn't copy Freddie's moves, and he sang with his own style. The only way to disrespect Freddie's memory is to have a Freddie clone (that copies the stage moves, etc), sing with Brian/Roger and then slap the Queen name on it. Gary Mullen is a fantastic Freddie impersonator, but it will be illogical to have him work with Brian/Roger (and Gary himself admits that he's just a fan that wants to pay tribute to Freddie's legacy). Marc Martel has a voice that "fits" with Queen's music, and he delivers the songs very well. I talked to many people after the Detroit show, and everybody was praising Marc for his delivery of the songs. Nobody complained about "he's not Freddie" or anything. There was also younger kids that were talking to their parents about "that amazing Marc guy" and stuff. As for his TSMGO rendition, Marc does have a few rough moments--but considering how difficult that song is to sing, he did a good job. I'll take him singing that song over Adam Lambert any day of the week. He did perform that song in the original key! I have no problem with him performing Queen songs with Queen Extravaganza.... I would have a problem with him performing with Brian May and Roger Taylor under name Queen or Queen + Marc Martel etc. There is no doubt that he is great singer, but top league singers are something "more" than "just" great singers, its not enough. |
cmsdrums 05.06.2012 16:23 |
You seem to say that only people of a certain age or standing in the industry can perform with Queen - regardless of whether they're any good. To me, if they're good enough I don't care if no-one has heard of them or if they're younger - in fact, they have no reputation that people will tag to them and say 'well they did 'xyz' so they must be great. |
Missreclusive 05.06.2012 16:40 |
I live in the USA and don't feel I'm missing out by not seeing Queen+PR or Queen+AL. I would be very jealous if I were to miss QE and even more so if Queen+MM were to happen, even for a few concerts or some new songs and I couldn't go see them. Age/experience/fame isn't a factor nor should it be. It's all about the music. I hope while there's still time that this can come about. |
dunga 05.06.2012 21:56 |
I can't wait for the Houston Show 6/20 :) |
notimeforlosers 06.06.2012 01:20 |
ITLOTG...R: link Close your eyes and it's Freddie you'll hear. |
Fone Bone 06.06.2012 07:02 |
Could one of the attendees please post the setlist featuring the lead singers of each song ? That would be nice :) |
AdamMethos 06.06.2012 07:59 |
I like this video for ITLOTG better -- better sound and it has the whole song (that they played): link Here ya go. The Act 2 order is not exact since it looks like they vary it slightly for each show. ---------- Who Sings What For those keeping score ;-) Marc - 13 Jeff - 11 Yvan - 11 Jennifer - 6 Tyler - 1 We Will Rock You (Jeff) Tie Your Mother Down (Jeff) Now I’m Here (Yvan) Killer Queen (Marc) Love Of My Life (Marc) I Want It All (Jeff & Yvan) Bicycle Race (Jeff & Yvan) I Want To Break Free (Yvan) The March Of The Black Queen (Jennifer) Dragon Attack (Jeff) You Take My Breath Away (Yvan) Save Me (Jeff & Yvan) Crazy Little Thing Called Love (Marc) Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon (Marc) I’m In Love With My Car (Tyler) Bohemian Rhapsody (Marc & Jeff) One Vision (Marc) A Kind Of Magic (Yvan) Don’t Stop Me Now (Marc & Jennifer) Under Pressure (Marc & Jeff) Who Wants To Live Forever (Jennifer) Another One Bites The Dust (Jennifer, Yvan & Jeff) You’re My Best Friend (Jennifer) Seven Seas Of Rhye (Yvan) *The Show Must Go On (Marc) Stone Cold Crazy (Jeff) In The Lap Of The Gods (Jennifer & Marc) Radio Ga Ga (Marc) Fat Bottomed Girls (Jeff) Somebody To Love (Marc) We Will Rock You (Yvan) We Are The Champions (Yvan & Marc) *Not on the setlist for Montreal & Toronto |
Vocal harmony 06.06.2012 13:30 |
Interesting that some people regard the idea of Marc singing with Queen as disrespectful to Freddie's memory. I think that anyone with this view is missing the point. Brian And Roger don't want to share a stage while performing as Queen+ with someone who sounds like Freddie. Why would they, they would know that who ever that person was would never be as good as the real thing, and why would they want to relive their glory days through someone trying to be who they're not. When they decide to tour or play live they are in a position where they can perform with almost who ever they want. They have chosen people who have their own voice and not a Freddie clone. And there is the simple answer to why Adam Lambert, Paul Rodgers, and George Michael have played with them and Marc Martel never will |
Man from Zanzibar 06.06.2012 14:11 |
Vocal harmony wrote: They have chosen people who have their own voice and not a Freddie clone Nobody is a Freddie clone. Martel's voice just more or less reminds people of the sound of Freddie and that's it. |
7Innuendo7 06.06.2012 20:50 |
Cleveland was great fun, but on a Monday night more advertising/promotion needed. Stone Cold Crazy, MOTBQ, -- some pretty good reviews from other folks. Yes it was worth it! |
Fone Bone 07.06.2012 02:54 |
@AdamM Thanks for your post - it would be a nice addition to the QE wikipedia article |
AdamMethos 07.06.2012 08:09 |
New video of TSMGO in St. Louis. Better sound and picture than the other one. link |
john bodega 07.06.2012 20:27 |
Way to bitchslap the first video! This chap's great. I'm going to say it though - they really need to do something about Espinoza's pants. |
eYe 08.06.2012 00:20 |
Well done, Roger! Thank you very much! Please bring them to this side of the big pond. |
inu-liger 08.06.2012 01:55 |
Expect an excellent audio recording from the Philly show sometime later this weekend (at the earliest) courtesy of TSS_Killer... |
Another Roger (re) 09.06.2012 03:15 |
inu-liger wrote: Expect an excellent audio recording from the Philly show sometime later this weekend (at the earliest) courtesy of TSS_Killer...This might sound a bit rude, but do you think you can speed up the process? Can not wait for some high quality youtube videos :) |
inu-liger 09.06.2012 03:39 |
Another Roger (re) wrote:inu-liger wrote: Expect an excellent audio recording from the Philly show sometime later this weekend (at the earliest) courtesy of TSS_Killer...This might sound a bit rude, but do you think you can speed up the process? Can not wait for some high quality youtube videos :) Oh how rude indeed! You do realize sending 96/24 quality FLAC master files from one user on one side of the continent to a user on the the other side directly DOES take time, never mind I have a work schedule to follow before I can conveniently waste my free time to edit this into a release for you lovely people ;) Expect it by Sunday! |
queenUSA 09.06.2012 12:43 |
Double post |
queenUSA 09.06.2012 13:05 |
Last night was the June 8th QE in Washinton DC. Great show by the whole gang. It really blew the roof off the venue last night: DC's 9:30 Club. The set list tracked with what others have posted from earlier tour dates. We did not have SSOR last night, nor White Man, nor Liar bits as others may have had. There was a small portion of instrumental heaviness from the opening of DOTL - which we were treated to in the second half. The band was not introduced till the last song. They are again: Marc Martel, Jennifer Espinoza, Jeff Scott Soto, Yvan Pedneault, Brian Gresh, Tristan Avakian, Francois-Olivier Doyan and Brandon Ethridge. Of course I loved every moment and expected Marc and the others to sing well - so one of the surprises for me was how good Tyler Warren was with IILWMC. He was amazing. Extremely satisfying. I would love to hear that again! Special effects: Deep purple stage lighting at the appropriate moments; heavy strobe lights on SCC; Jennifer on bike bell for BR; laser mirror ball effect on WWTLF; UP video footage during UP; RG Metropolis footage during RG; Gresh back flip during FBG (a somewhat terrifying moment when the landing was wobbly, let me tell you); during OV there was a Queen footage montage projected - but I did notice it had almost no 70's images in this particular montage. Wardrobe: 1st half black dress for all, 2nd half white dress for all. Jennifer darling, please listen to me carefully - the turban headgear must go! It's like channeling Lucy Ricardo. Sorry to be harsh, but it is ridiculous my dear. Atmosphere: Marc told the enthusiastic crowd we were the loudest of any audience yet encountered. He had a good rapport, however please re- think the opening salutation of "Good evening ladies and gay people!!" The band captivated the audience and participation was high with sing alongs and yes - they even bewitched us all to perform the RG arm bit (congratulations Washington fans you receive an A mark for effort and coordination!). See everyone? Americans do get it. Please give us some credit and love. And now the morning after: My hearing is totally blown!! Still ringing. Go and experience it for yourself. I regret not buying a t-shirt. I will have nothing but my memrories and ear ringing. Lastly, a big thank you to Mr. Rogert Taylor for having the vision and drive to bring this project to fruition and to treat those of us in America to one hell of a special night. Thank you very much! |
Missreclusive 09.06.2012 13:39 |
Well written interviews/articles. link link link __________________________________________________ "I'm clutching a meat cleaver, I'm coming apart at the seams" Freddie Mercury |
AdamMethos 09.06.2012 14:46 |
Thanks for the links. I love this quote from the Boston Herald: "When my mom was pregnant, my dad would put headphones on her stomach and play Queen for me," Extravaganza drummer Tyler Warren said. |
ParisNair 09.06.2012 15:59 |
Good to see so much positivity on Queenzone. Yes, I think its the first time we see a thread full of 99% appreciation for what the emaining Queen have done, post freddie. I supppose this is what Brian, Roger can still achieve, with their experience, eye for potential, and quality control. They stayed off dope during their hey-days, and it shows :D Regarding the calibre of Marc Martel (who seems to be everybody's favorite), I think he has got a great platform, and now has to show staying power. Maybe QP can help him with a solo career once the extravanza is wrapped up. About the discussion regarding Brian + Roger performing live with Marc, I think its best to keep it a guest slot for him till he really makes it on his own. But then again, if Adam Lambert can front them, then so can anyone else. |
pipijolk 09.06.2012 23:30 |
Marc has been in a, relatively, successful band (Downhere) since 1999 and they have won 5 Canadian Juno (USA Grammy)awards for 5 of their albums. I say relatively, because they are 'Christian themed' band. People in general don't give to much credence to Christian music, but he is successful, he writes his own music. I see no conflict of interest in Marc stepping out and doing something with much broader appeal. I think he has done a great job on stage with QE and I hope he gets involved with Brian and Roger in some capacity. It is such a great opportunity for everyone involved. |
pipijolk 09.06.2012 23:32 |
Oops, actually, they won 4 and were nominated for 5. |
Missreclusive 10.06.2012 00:12 |
Check this review out. lol Also, don't forget to read the comments, apparently Tristan (guitarist) chose to review the reviewer. link |
john bodega 10.06.2012 07:49 |
jigaboo! |
john bodega 10.06.2012 07:50 |
"This might sound a bit rude, but do you think you can speed up the process?" Just ask the band to play quicker. |
inu-liger 10.06.2012 08:40 |
link |
john bodega 10.06.2012 08:52 |
Rockin'! |
Man from Zanzibar 10.06.2012 08:59 |
queenUSA wrote: the opening salutation of "Good evening ladies and gay people!!" What the fa, is that for real? |
Missreclusive 10.06.2012 12:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: |
john bodega 10.06.2012 16:26 |
Given some time to think about it - we all know what it's like to have a spectator get under our skin, and it's very easy to start thinking 'well hey - I'm getting paid to do this, what do YOU know about it??'. But that's a massive logical fallacy and my gut tells me this guy is better than that. In any event I get what his reasoning probably is. I can accept their ideas of onstage presentation (as hard as it is for me to even watch) but they'll have to accept that it's not for everyone. If they wanted to write bitchy responses to absolutely everyone who thinks it looks ridiculous, sooner or later they'll come up against someone who isn't a 'fat guy with a Myspace' - what would happen if (for argument's sake) someone like Guthrie Govan were to say something similar?? The old "I'm making a living doing this and you're not" argument wouldn't cut it then, and then what are you left with? It'd be a lot easier to be comfortable with the idea that not everyone wants to see a guy ape Steve Vai's guitarface. Maybe some people do - and that's cool! My point is that everything is okay and no one need be heavy on the topic. Live and let live! |
AdamMethos 10.06.2012 17:38 |
During the YouTube contest, Tristan made this comment on his audition video:
Yes, it looks somewhat dramatic, but it's not a put-on. Playing this music makes me feel fantastic. I feel it with every fiber of my being.... I could tone it down, but why? Music is about expressing emotions, and given the choice, I will always feel - and express - joy.So I guess getting called on the antics is not new to him, and he gets frustrated with the criticism instead learning to ignore it? At the concert I thought the cliche guitarist moves were amusing, but my (younger) sister thought they were lame. |
AdamMethos 10.06.2012 19:03 |
queenUSA wrote: Atmosphere: Marc told the enthusiastic crowd we were the loudest of any audience yet encountered. He had a good rapport, however please re-think the opening salutation of "Good evening ladies and gay people!!"I'm listening to the recording of the Philly show (thanks TSS_Killer & inu-liger!) and on it Martel says, "Good evening ladies and fellows." But he says "fellows" fast so maybe you misheard "fags" instead? Just find it hard to believe he would be that stupid. LOL |
Missreclusive 10.06.2012 21:36 |
AdamMethos wrote:LOL...and this is how it goes. One person puts a pot on their head and hears something completely wrong and before you know it, everything goes into a tailspin and it seems there's no stopping it!!! So now Marc is the ignorant fool who actually made reference to the gay people in his opening. Gotta LOVE people. So so so hilarious. I personally find so many funny things in life, yes, easily entertained. Sadly a lot of the time I'm the only one laughing, ever had that happen? Now wait, is it smart people who are easily entertained or schtoopid people? DO NOT answer that. hehequeenUSA wrote: Atmosphere: Marc told the enthusiastic crowd we were the loudest of any audience yet encountered. He had a good rapport, however please re-think the opening salutation of "Good evening ladies and gay people!!"I'm listening to the recording of the Philly show (thanks TSS_Killer & inu-liger!) and on it Martel says, "Good evening ladies and fellows." But he says "fellows" fast so maybe you misheard "fags" instead? Just find it hard to believe he would be that stupid. LOL |
queenUSA 10.06.2012 22:25 |
AdamMethos wrote:I'm sure it was meant to be light humor as it was said with a sweeping arm flourish. But it was cringe worthy.queenUSA wrote: Atmosphere: Marc told the enthusiastic crowd we were the loudest of any audience yet encountered. He had a good rapport, however please re-think the opening salutation of "Good evening ladies and gay people!!"I'm listening to the recording of the Philly show (thanks TSS_Killer & inu-liger!) and on it Martel says, "Good evening ladies and fellows." But he says "fellows" fast so maybe you misheard "fags" instead? Just find it hard to believe he would be that stupid. LOL |
MEDUSA-RULES 10.06.2012 22:27 |
I'm listening to the recording of the Philly show (thanks TSS_Killer & inu-liger!) and on it Martel says, "Good evening ladies and fellows." But he says "fellows" fast so maybe you misheard "fags" instead? Just find it hard to believe he would be that stupid. LOL Kind of thing Freddie might have said though |
MEDUSA-RULES 10.06.2012 22:28 |
Truth is even if Marc was the same as Freddie personality wise today it would not work because it's all been done |
inu-liger 11.06.2012 03:18 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote: Truth is even if Marc was the same as Freddie personality wise today it would not work because it's all been done That, and here's another thing to consider: the Internet did not exist back in Freddie's day. Stuff like that would have taken MUCH longer to spread around, even if rumour-wise |
kosimodo 11.06.2012 05:11 |
Cant wait for them to go to europe! Compaire The Queen Experience with the Queen Extravaganza.. and i bet they played that concert to more people the whole north american tour in total... link And overthere were to celebrate His 65th birthday more then 30.000 people.. Imaging Marc Singing Gaga there!!!! |
kosimodo 11.06.2012 05:28 |
really.. they need bigger venues! |
kosimodo 11.06.2012 05:48 |
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kosimodo 11.06.2012 05:49 |
here is radio gaga compaire.. link over 30000 people paid for this! |
Man from Zanzibar 11.06.2012 06:26 |
queenUSA wrote:AdamMethos wrote:I'm sure it was meant to be light humor as it was said with a sweeping arm flourish. But it was cringe worthy.queenUSA wrote: Atmosphere: Marc told the enthusiastic crowd we were the loudest of any audience yet encountered. He had a good rapport, however please re-think the opening salutation of "Good evening ladies and gay people!!"I'm listening to the recording of the Philly show (thanks TSS_Killer & inu-liger!) and on it Martel says, "Good evening ladies and fellows." But he says "fellows" fast so maybe you misheard "fags" instead? Just find it hard to believe he would be that stupid. LOL I seriously doubt he'd said "fags" on stage in his right mind and being relatively sober, he's not suicidal case or that kind of thing. However, that alcohol/honey/whatever cocktail may be salvation for the singing voice, but not so good for the brains, if you know what I mean, hehe. Among his close uber-christian friends suuuuuure, why not. But on stage in front of so many people? That's mental, they would've probably kicked him off the stage that same night and sent back home if that was the case. It's not 80s anymore. Things like that not exactly look cool in your resume, also. |
john bodega 11.06.2012 07:14 |
People aren't seriously debating whether a Christian Rock singer would use the word 'fags' on stage, are they? Have you ever MET one of these people?? |
Man from Zanzibar 11.06.2012 07:51 |
Zebonka12 wrote: People aren't seriously debating whether a Christian Rock singer would use the word 'fags' on stage, are they? Have you ever MET one of these people?? Just downloaded that clear audio rip from Philadelphia. It's "fellows", not gay people. He wasn't THAT drunk after all :) |
queenUSA 11.06.2012 18:25 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote:This is not about the Philly show or what was said there.Zebonka12 wrote: People aren't seriously debating whether a Christian Rock singer would use the word 'fags' on stage, are they?Have you ever MET one of these people??Just downloaded that clear audio rip from Philadelphia. It's "fellows", not gay people. He wasn't THAT drunk after all :) It was the show in DC. The word was not fags. The phrase was (unfortunately) "Good evening ladies and gay people!" but you had to be there to witness the rest of it, the happy face, big grin, sweeping arm flourish to properly understand the context. It was not the end of the world, but leave the comedy to Robin Williams next time. That's all. |
inu-liger 11.06.2012 22:27 |
Anyone have a recording of Martel's greeting to the DC audience then? I too doubt he would even say such a thing like that, however anything IS possible, so we'll need solid evidence to prove or dispel this... |
The Real Wizard 11.06.2012 22:32 |
In today's world of tabloid culture, it's guilty until proven innocent. He also said he's going to come to the house of the guy who started the rumour to beat the shit out of him. But maybe that's just a rumour too. |
AdamMethos 12.06.2012 00:10 |
None of the YouTube vids posted so far from the DC concert contain that bit. I asked a couple of the people who posted vids if they remember him saying that. Haven't heard back yet... |
queenUSA 12.06.2012 06:20 |
The Real Wizard wrote: In today's world of tabloid culture, it's guilty until proven innocent. He also said he's going to come to the house of the guy who started the rumour to beat the shit out of him. But maybe that's just a rumour too.I reported details of the show - not rumors. Not tabloid. Please return to my original post in this thread fromJune 9th, the morning after the DC show. You will see a a lot of detail about the show. It was a great show people, despite the comment. |
pipijolk 12.06.2012 17:26 |
Is it true that he also bit the head off a bat? Some people from the show said he said 'fine and dandy people' I think that there would be more press if he said '.. and gay people' as it does seem a little strange, I think someone would have picked up on it and mentioned the curious choice of words. |
inu-liger 12.06.2012 17:41 |
Yeah people on QOL are also mirroring comments that it was "dandy people" that was said, not "gay people" |
AdamMethos 12.06.2012 19:28 |
One of the YouTubers I asked said she didn't hear it if he said that. She asked her friends who went to the concert with her and no one remembers him saying that but one friend thinks he might have said "hello all you dandy people." The other YouTuber I asked replied "Did not happen" and didn't elaborate. |
MEDUSA-RULES 12.06.2012 21:41 |
Marc Martel is the closest voice to Mercury possible, and i mean quality not mimic of Freddie's later Live style, i mean like studio voice. Queen could really get in the studio with him and make a new Queen album, sharing ideas and writing with him. Why dont they? I have just watched another video, a short version of one vision and it was amazing, same energy and vibe as Freddie- and power and sound -it cut off though at the end- that was the video cutting off not the music. Why that was cut off i dont know, it was the best i seen of them doing that song. |
pipijolk 12.06.2012 22:58 |
"Marc Martel is the closest voice to Mercury possible, and i mean quality not mimic of Freddie's later Live style, i mean like studio voice. Queen could really get in the studio with him and make a new Queen album, sharing ideas and writing with him. Why dont they?" Yeah, I agree. Obviously, they didn't know what to expect with the QE, they didn't know they'd get a decent group to work with, they didn't know how they'd gel, they didn't know if it would be well received... Etc. They had a lot of doubters, a lot of cynical viewpoints, hard shells to crack. They couldn't take the risk of going overboard with anything, in case it didn't work out, smaller clubs, 1 month tour, it is a trial run, basically, in the experiment. I think it is a great success, most especially Marc's presence in the group. I don't know how he would handle all of the songs, but the ones he performed were fantastic and I could easily see him performing with Brian and Roger without skipping a beat. It would send chills down people's spines, goosebumps and hair standing on end, all of that, no doubt. |
AdamMethos 12.06.2012 23:03 |
Here's the entire One Vision: link Anyone know what he says after the Fried Chicken line? One... something? (repeated) That version of the ending is new to me. |
AdamMethos 12.06.2012 23:12 |
From a purely marketing standpoint (as opposed to e.g. artistic integrity), if Roger has plans to tour this QE band internationally (instead of the original idea of creating different QE bands in different regions), then having Marc sing one song with Queen at the Olympic closing ceremonies would be great promotion.
pipijolk wrote: I don't know how he would handle all of the songs, but the ones he performed were fantastic and I could easily see him performing with Brian and Roger without skipping a beat. It would send chills down people's spines, goosebumps and hair standing on end, all of that, no doubt.Apparently, when not putting out Christian music, Marc's band has played private corporate events as a Queen cover band, so he can probably perform a lot more Queen songs than the ones he does in QE! |
Missreclusive 12.06.2012 23:59 |
For the life of me I can not imagine a Queen fan not wanting to hear/see Martel sing with Roger and Brian. It would be so spectacular. I also think his stage personality/presence is perfect for it. He isn't Freddie in that way, therefore wont upstage Brian and Roger at all. What a great way to present some of the unreleased songs in concert. |
MEDUSA-RULES 13.06.2012 00:12 |
AdamMethos wrote: Here's the entire One Vision: link Anyone know what he says after the Fried Chicken line? One... something? (repeated) That version of the ending is new to me.what city were they playing in it sounds to me if it's the same video i saw that he said one city bethlehem were they playing in bethlehem? |
MEDUSA-RULES 13.06.2012 00:30 |
pipijolk wrote: "Marc Martel is the closest voice to Mercury possible, and i mean quality not mimic of Freddie's later Live style, i mean like studio voice. Queen could really get in the studio with him and make a new Queen album, sharing ideas and writing with him. Why dont they?" Yeah, I agree. Obviously, they didn't know what to expect with the QE, they didn't know they'd get a decent group to work with, they didn't know how they'd gel, they didn't know if it would be well received... Etc. They had a lot of doubters, a lot of cynical viewpoints, hard shells to crack. They couldn't take the risk of going overboard with anything, in case it didn't work out, smaller clubs, 1 month tour, it is a trial run, basically, in the experiment. I think it is a great success, most especially Marc's presence in the group. I don't know how he would handle all of the songs, but the ones he performed were fantastic and I could easily see him performing with Brian and Roger without skipping a beat. It would send chills down people's spines, goosebumps and hair standing on end, all of that, no doubt.Yes but i mean write new queen songs A new QUEEN ALBUM |
MEDUSA-RULES 13.06.2012 00:39 |
PLus that video of one vision would look great if GT was filming it you would see the expression in close ups as marc sings just like Freddie as he expressed. plus the video again cuts off its not the full version is it? i got two version first cuts off -thats better than the second although the second is good also. is that all guitar after fun fun one one into the break? or is it synths also? the end bit is this brilliant ending its all wonderful one man yeh one goal one lord one city of bethlehem praise God! on the second version at the end it seems like Party yeh one man yeh One Lord for the streets a boogie yeh yeh yeh yeh somethin unintelligable End this is exciting hope it's being proffessionally filmed |
MEDUSA-RULES 13.06.2012 01:42 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: Or maybe they should focus on different songs, other that "inappropriate" ones. In fact I'm surprised they let Marc sing "Don't Stop Me Now" at all (with Jennifer on the "sex-machine" line, lol). I'm more concerned about him singing songs like "Innuendo" for example. I'm curious if he'd have a hard time delivering the "false religion"line. Other than that I see no evil in staying away from certain tracks in favor of the rest of brilliant Queen stuff. Too bad they're not gonna do "The Miracle" on QE show anytime soon. It actually fits Extravaganza a lot, considering that they're basically around age of them adorable kids "playing" real Queen's music in "The Miracle" music video. Sadly, Freddie will never show up from behind the curtains and sing "The one thing we all waiting for is peace on Earth and end to war", but Bri and Rog can (as seen on Idol).I still hope for the second part of the QE tour and them covering more early and more of the very late stuff (including Innuendo and Made in Heaven). Less "obvious" Greatest Hits.I'm curious if he'd have a hard time delivering the "false religion"line lol no why should he>? he knows all religions of the world are false and there IS only ONE WAY to LIFE Any problem is easily solved by him and Queen going into a studio and writing new queen songs for a NEW QUEEN ALBUM |
john bodega 13.06.2012 04:31 |
Please stop spamming. |
queenUSA 13.06.2012 07:26 |
AdamMethos wrote: One of the YouTubers I asked said she didn't hear it if he said that. She asked her friends who went to the concert with her and no one remembers him saying that but one friend thinks he might have said "hello all you dandy people." The other YouTuber I asked replied "Did not happen" and didn't elaborate.And so you've asked around. But "dandy people" is NOT how it went down. It happened. |
Man from Zanzibar 13.06.2012 12:00 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote: Marc Martel is the closest voice to Mercury possible, and i mean quality not mimic of Freddie's later Live style, i mean like studio voice. Queen could really get in the studio with him and make a new Queen album, sharing ideas and writing with him. Why dont they? You asking for a fan rage cry here, don't you? Lol. If anything I think that's the reason they'd probably never gonna perform with him live, let alone working in studio (oh my gawd, are we serious here). Dude's just way too close, it's creepy sometimes. Though, if Martel's gonna end up being uber-popular in US they might consider doing a couple shows with him, similar to the euro-tour with Lambert. I mean, Adam's popular, the name alone selling tickets right now, they hope he brings new crowd of squealing girls with him or whatnot. Personally I'd be happy if they would do second leg of Queen Extravaganza tour, featuring even less known earlier and later tracks (especially the ones never performed live). I'm talking digging real deep here. There's plenty of songs for every singer. Now that'd be a "bijou". |
Missreclusive 13.06.2012 22:38 |
Noooo! Appears to me that Marcs voice is suffering. Is it me or is it true? link Hope he gets some rest before heading to Texas. |
AdamMethos 13.06.2012 22:53 |
Now he sounds more like Freddie on tour vs. in the studio??? ;-) He sounds fine on Under Pressure, which came after BoRhap, so maybe it was just a bad recording: link They just finished six shows in a row, which is the longest stretch of shows on the tour. But they have two days off till the Tampa show to rest up. |
Missreclusive 13.06.2012 23:04 |
AdamMethos wrote: Now he sounds more like Freddie on tour vs. in the studio??? ;-) He sounds fine on Under Pressure, which came after BoRhap, so maybe it was just a bad recording: link They just finished six shows in a row, which is the longest stretch of shows on the tour. But they have two days off till the Tampa show to rest up.Thanks for the encouraging words :-) However, that Bo Rhap wasn't the best I've heard out of him, just seemed he was straining. Yes, after watching that one I did find the UP in NY and watched it and he seemed ok. I want a great show in Houston! Thanks |
YAFF 13.06.2012 23:56 |
MEDUSA-RULES wrote: Yes but i mean write new queen songs A new QUEEN ALBUMblasphemy. pure and simple. no Queen without Freddie. The worst possible collaboration would be a sound-alike. Marc is very good...but he's no Freddie Mercury. Freddie was more than just a voice |
YAFF 13.06.2012 23:58 |
Zebonka12 wrote: People aren't seriously debating whether a Christian Rock singer would use the word 'fags' on stage, are they? Have you ever MET one of these people??is that a crack against Christians...ya f**ktard? |
john bodega 14.06.2012 06:42 |
Being that I'm friends with a couple of them, and that no - it wasn't a knock on Christians - I politely invite you to go fuck yourself. |
MEDUSA-RULES 14.06.2012 06:52 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote:My only interest is the idea of a new Queen album with new songs, and it's obvious Marc, who is a song writer himself and sounds so incerdibly good, as close as is possible to Freddie's range and style and tone, should be in the studio with Brian Roger and even John making new QUEEN MUSIC.MEDUSA-RULES wrote: Marc Martel is the closest voice to Mercury possible, and i mean quality not mimic of Freddie's later Live style, i mean like studio voice.Queen could really get in the studio with him and make a new Queen album, sharing ideas and writing with him.Why dont they?You asking for a fan rage cry here, don't you? Lol. If anything I think that's the reason they'd probably never gonna perform with him live, let alone working in studio (oh my gawd, are we serious here). Dude's just way too close, it's creepy sometimes. Though, if Martel's gonna end up being uber-popular in US they might consider doing a couple shows with him, similar to the euro-tour with Lambert. I mean, Adam's popular, the name alone selling tickets right now, they hope he brings new crowd of squealing girls with him or whatnot. Personally I'd be happy if they would do second leg of Queen Extravaganza tour, featuring even less known earlier and later tracks (especially the ones never performed live). I'm talking digging real deep here. There's plenty of songs for every singer. Now that'd be a "bijou". For if it's true that John eventually decided to leave from upfront, because he was opposed to the kind of people Brian and Roger were working with as vocalists, then i bet he would not have the same reaction to Marc's talents and voice. And this is perfect, as studio is the place of the retired from live perfomances. |
Man from Zanzibar 14.06.2012 10:04 |
YetAnotherFreddieFan wrote:MEDUSA-RULES wrote: Yes but i mean write new queen songs A new QUEEN ALBUMblasphemy. pure and simple. no Queen without Freddie. The worst possible collaboration would be a sound-alike. Marc is very good...but he's no Freddie Mercury. Freddie was more than just a voice To be perfectly honest with you, after The Cosmos Rocks I'm not afraid of anything related to guest vocalists in Queen+, haha. If such things ever gonna happen, the way to go is doing no intentional imitation of Freddie at all (it might work live, but will sound cheap in studio). If they want a young strong voice for their new stuff, the voice that happens to remind people of Mercury a little bit, so be it. Just let him sing in his natural singing style, though even on some recent Downhere records (for example things like Living the Dream) when he tries his best not to sound like Freddie, well you know what, I still hear it here and there. Therefore if it comes out by itself, let it be, otherwise don't push it. After all it's up for Brian & Roger to decide if they want to do anything with it at all. If they feel it's the right thing for them to do right now (which is unlikely), I bet they're not gonna bother with some of us screaming "it's sacrilegious, blasphemy, are you out of your mind, guys!!", because, well, it happened before and probably might happen again. Just sayin' |
AdamMethos 14.06.2012 12:12 |
The only way we're going to get new Queen songs is if they put out an album of unreleased tracks. Marc comes from a totally different background and sensibility than Queen. Maybe he can write good music with Roger and Brian, but they won't be Queen songs. Queen's music changed a lot while Freddie was alive. Even if Freddie was still alive and the band still together, I doubt that the music they would be producing today would resemble what we think of as "Queen songs." |
Man from Zanzibar 14.06.2012 13:33 |
AdamMethos wrote: The only way we're going to get new Queen songs is if they put out an album of unreleased tracks. Marc comes from a totally different background and sensibility than Queen. Maybe he can write good music with Roger and Brian, but they won't be Queen songs. Queen's music changed a lot while Freddie was alive. Even if Freddie was still alive and the band still together, I doubt that the music they would be producing today would resemble what we think of as "Queen songs." No real Queen without Freddie Mercury, I completely agree with that. Since release of "Made in Heaven" it's only Queen + Paul Rodgers, Queen + Adam Lambert or Queen + Marc Martel or anyone they want. Live or in studio, it's gonna be so called "Queen+" as long as they're active and alive. I've had a fun time reading some interesting discussions on the web about that album Journey recorded with "soundalike" (what a fken word) Arnel Pineda on vocals. I guess the general consensus was like yep, dude sounds very much like young Steve Perry, but it's not exactly the same thing. So if Queen+ decides to pull off "The Cosmos Rocks" all over again with younger vocalist/songwriter, I'm pretty sure my darn vote is for Martel, not Lambert. It's just because Marc gives me strong "Queen-esque" vibe that Adam hasn't (he's good, just different). That kind of timbre and vocal characteristics just suit Queen, in my opinion, same with Pineda's recreation of the "legacy sound". |
YAFF 14.06.2012 23:16 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Being that I'm friends with a couple of them, and that no - it wasn't a knock on Christians - I politely invite you to go fuck yourself.Naw I'm an original. Road less traveled kind of guy. You've already cornered the market on fucking one's self. So without further ado you may continue pleasing yourself... |
john bodega 15.06.2012 06:37 |
I'm really not that flexible. What kind of daft cunt are you anyway? Jumping at shadows a bit aren't we - no one was making fun of Christians. Well not me anyway, but it wouldn't be the first time that I've been blamed for the ills of this forum, hah. |
BelfastQueenFan 15.06.2012 09:08 |
He needs to put on a British accent. Also I KNOW they werent looking for a Pub Freddie doing all the movement and actions and jumping around the stage and hand gestures etc etc that Freddie was so good at...but watching the Youtube clips (because im not American)...its a bit boring. Even if they gave him the bottomless mic stand it would improve. |
Man from Zanzibar 15.06.2012 10:49 |
BelfastQueenFan wrote: He needs to put on a British accent. Even if they gave him the bottomless mic stand it would improve. That's full "Pub Freddie" here, my friend. I guess Gary Mullen already perfected that kind of impersonation show to the point of no return, lol. Personally I think they made right decision not to make Marc grow some 'stache for the QE. It's weird enough now, but if he'd be jumping on stage like that with the bottomless mic, talking and singing with British accent... I see plenty of people walking out angry with such words like "fuck this show". Speaking of international tour possibilities, i bet they'd love the hell out of him in France, since he also a French-speaking person. |
Missreclusive 15.06.2012 11:04 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote:Naaaa, I don't want to see an impersonator. I think all the impersonators on Youtube are funny but not very good at all, including Gary M. I just want to hear Queens music live and with competence.BelfastQueenFan wrote: He needs to put on a British accent.Even if they gave him the bottomless mic stand it would improve.That's full "Pub Freddie" here, my friend. I guess Gary Mullen already perfected that kind of impersonation show to the point of no return, lol.Personally I think they made right decision not to make Marc grow some 'stache for the QE. It's weird enough now, but if he'd be jumping on stage like that with the bottomless mic, talking and singing with British accent... I see plenty of people walking out angry with such words like "fuck this show". Speaking of international tour possibilities, i bet they'd love the hell out of him in France, since he also a French-speaking person. |
Man from Zanzibar 15.06.2012 11:10 |
Missreclusive wrote: Naaaa, I don't want to see an impersonator. Same here, especially after so many cover bands doing that thing. |
YAFF 15.06.2012 19:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I'm really not that flexible. What kind of daft cunt are you anyway? Jumping at shadows a bit aren't we - no one was making fun of Christians. Well not me anyway, but it wouldn't be the first time that I've been blamed for the ills of this forum, hah."jumping at shadows"? Perhaps... too much whiskey that night (yup I'm a sinner). Anyway, what's your take on this QE business? I just can't stop myself from hating everything about it. It's my loss I know. But I can't be alone in thinking QE is a parody of a farce of a tragedy |
AdamMethos 15.06.2012 21:25 |
From an interview here:
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...the biggest challenge for Martel in rehearsals has been to sing with just a microphone. "In my career I've always had a guitar on me when I'm playing with my band," he said. "And I haven't had the time to really develop my own style as a front man without a guitar on so it's easy for me to kind of fall into copying Freddie's moves and I'm trying to walk that fine line as not to be an impersonator but a tribute artist."I think that's one of the reasons why he plays piano or guitar on a lot of the songs. But he does seem to be getting more comfortable covering the stage with just a mic as the tour goes on, and JSS is probably a big help with that. That said, I went to the 3rd concert in Toronto and didn't find him stiff or boring. There's a lot going on on the stage with the lighting and video screens and 8 other musicians (which you don't necessarily get a feel for in the YouTube videos which tend to focus on just one part of the stage). So he doesn't have to bear the full burden of keeping the show dynamic and moving. YetAnotherFreddieFan wrote: Anyway, what's your take on this QE business? I just can't stop myself from hating everything about it. It's my loss I know. But I can't be alone in thinking QE is a parody of a farce of a tragedyWell, the show has been getting good reviews and I have yet to come across someone who went to the show and didn't have a good time. So even if you find the concept abominable, I think it's safe to say that it won't be a blight on Queen's legacy in the history books. |
john bodega 16.06.2012 04:13 |
"Anyway, what's your take on this QE business? I just can't stop myself from hating everything about it" My take? Well, honestly I'm all about the music. That's why I didn't care when Brian and Roger kept using the name Queen with Paul Rodgers. I don't care about names, I care about the music. When the music went sour, that's when they lost me. Same deal with Queen Extravaganza. I don't care about people's ideas of what's right or wrong or whatever. If the music is good (and it's really improved since they've been gigging regularly) then they've got my vote. I don't have any backwards notions about 'hey he's impersonating a dead guy' or whatever. I really do think that music has to be played live by people in a room in order to be actually alive. If it's on a CD or a hard drive, it's just junk sitting there until someone uses it. I could be accused of being almost quasi-religious about my music, but it is very serious to me. I really think that if people aren't out there playing this stuff (even if it is QE and not the real band) then it might as well be dead and rotting in the ground! And since they're doing a good job, I can't find a good reason to complain. Even if the poses are getting a little silly. (That's my whiskey take on things, anyway). |
queenUSA 16.06.2012 07:00 |
Does the staging delivery of NIH matter to anyone else? While happy to hear NIH in the set list, I would enjoy it better choreographed to work with the opening lyrics as Queen performed it back in the day. Of course it's not fair to compare the QE to Queen itself, and yet .... Just having Yvan stand there in front of a mic singing "Now I'm here, Now I'm there" whilst standing in place really loses the impact of the song when you've seen it properly staged out by Queen on videos from the past. Would it have really been so difficult to pull off something special to showcase the song and honor how it was presented by Queen? It was always thrilling when Queen rushed upon the stage at the musical outset of NIH - who could forget that? These are the types of details that fans really appreciate. So is it lazy to do less? Is it greedy to want more? The QE stage for the June 8th show was small and very shallow. A bit underwhelming when I saw the size of it because I knew it would limit movement and delivery space throughout the show. So again, does the staging delivery of NIH matter to anyone else? And Did anyone else have a better NIH experience at one of the QE venues? |
pipijolk 16.06.2012 12:03 |
"Same deal with Queen Extravaganza. I don't care about people's ideas of what's right or wrong or whatever. If the music is good (and it's really improved since they've been gigging regularly) then they've got my vote. I don't have any backwards notions about 'hey he's impersonating a dead guy' or whatever. I really do think that music has to be played live by people in a room in order to be actually alive. If it's on a CD or a hard drive, it's just junk sitting there until someone uses it." I agree, someone tweeted that the QE, "they ain't (expletive) on Freddy" (sic- should be Freddie) Why would someone single out Freddie and not the entire band? The QE is playing the live music of Queen, the tweet should be "they ain't (expletive) on Queen". And today, they perform something that Freddie, sadly, can't perform. I don't agree with the sentiment that no one should ever perform the music of Queen and/or Freddie because he is no longer living. I don't think the negative criticism that is offered is merited. I don't think it sullies FM's legacy in any way, I think it further enhances and solidifes his legacy when people are reminded of the music in a live setting. It reignites the memory. |
Missreclusive 16.06.2012 12:36 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "Anyway, what's your take on this QE business? I just can't stop myself from hating everything about it" My take? Well, honestly I'm all about the music. That's why I didn't care when Brian and Roger kept using the name Queen with Paul Rodgers. I don't care about names, I care about the music. When the music went sour, that's when they lost me. Same deal with Queen Extravaganza. I don't care about people's ideas of what's right or wrong or whatever. If the music is good (and it's really improved since they've been gigging regularly) then they've got my vote. I don't have any backwards notions about 'hey he's impersonating a dead guy' or whatever. I really do think that music has to be played live by people in a room in order to be actually alive. If it's on a CD or a hard drive, it's just junk sitting there until someone uses it. I could be accused of being almost quasi-religious about my music, but it is very serious to me. I really think that if people aren't out there playing this stuff (even if it is QE and not the real band) then it might as well be dead and rotting in the ground! And since they're doing a good job, I can't find a good reason to complain. Even if the poses are getting a little silly. (That's my whiskey take on things, anyway).DITTO! |
Missreclusive 16.06.2012 12:55 |
queenUSA wrote: So again, does the staging delivery of NIH matter to anyone else? And Did anyone else have a better NIH experience at one of the QE venues?Yes, disappointing delivery of NIH. I battle with myself inside knowing QE is doing a decent job, but not loving every single minute of what I see. They can't please everyone because they aren't Queen. Haven't seen them live yet, just Youtube. Looking forward to experiencing it first hand. |
john bodega 16.06.2012 14:58 |
"So is it lazy to do less? Is it greedy to want more?" What kind of venues are they playing at, exactly? I'm really wondering if the production budget would allow for whatever it is that you think could be improved in the staging. I mean I know that it's one thing to get the players to physically do more interesting stuff on the stage, but as far as the size of the thing, the lightshow, and whatever else - I'm just wondering if that's not limited by the places they have to play. |
pipijolk 16.06.2012 23:16 |
It is amazing, it seems that Marc's 1st audtion submission of 'Somebody To Love' at YouTube has recently (and once again) been promoted at a couple of big websites, Reddit and a Spanish one. It is getting a lot of first-time viewers and some people are defiantly taking the position that it is a lip-sync or other computer trickery. Some are saying that he didn't finish the song because he can't hit the final high note. Many are completely oblivious to the past 8-9 months and the QE tour and Marc performing with Brian and Roger on American Idol. |
queenUSA 17.06.2012 20:39 |
Zebonka12 wrote: " I'm really wondering if the production budget would allow for whatever it is that you think could be improved in the staging.What I had in mind was the Hammersmith 1975 opening treatment of NIH. Could not embed the video ... But basically it begins In complete darkness and then Fred backlit for a moment, then back to darkness, perhaps 2 other strobed flashes of him (or someone) and then the band rushes the stage in a pyro flash. Budget friendly I think other than the pyro effect. Certainly more satisfying than the QE singer standing stationery behind a mic and simply singing out ... Now I'm here, now I'm there. No impact, you know? I know the stage was smallish, but hey it's just turning the light off and on so how difficult is that really to go the extra mile? We are talking about an extravaganza here. Just saying ... |
Missreclusive 17.06.2012 20:51 |
This is pretty cool. link |
john bodega 17.06.2012 23:05 |
"Certainly more satisfying than the QE singer standing stationery behind a mic and simply singing out ... Now I'm here, now I'm there. No impact, you know?" Ah ok. Doesn't seem like it'd be such a big deal for them to do something more, yeah. |
Missreclusive 20.06.2012 17:57 |
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AdamMethos 20.06.2012 20:40 |
Finally, the wait is over! Have a great time tonight!
queenUSA wrote: What I had in mind was the Hammersmith 1975 opening treatment of NIH. Could not embed the video ... But basically it begins In complete darkness and then Fred backlit for a moment, then back to darkness, perhaps 2 other strobed flashes of him (or someone) and then the band rushes the stage in a pyro flash. Budget friendly I think other than the pyro effect. Certainly more satisfying than the QE singer standing stationery behind a mic and simply singing out ... Now I'm here, now I'm there. No impact, you know? I know the stage was smallish, but hey it's just turning the light off and on so how difficult is that really to go the extra mile? We are talking about an extravaganza here. Just saying ...I wasn't familiar with the Hammersmith treatment, so I didn't notice anything awry at the show I went to. But in this video from the Chicago show... link ...it looks like they're doing something similar to what you describe. They don't start in total darkness, but they do start darker then bring on some light flashes when the fast part kicks in. The staging that I can't figure out is Killer Queen. When the stage is large enough that a riser can fit behind the drum set, Martel does the whole first verse of KQ standing (almost hidden) behind the drum set. Very odd! On one of the YT videos for TSMGO, someone suggested that Freddie probably didn't record the song in the correct key and they did key adjustment on it. I find that hard to believe so is that person just talking out of their arse or has Queen done that sort of thing before? |
AdamMethos 20.06.2012 21:17 |
Zebonka12 wrote: What kind of venues are they playing at, exactly? I'm really wondering if the production budget would allow for whatever it is that you think could be improved in the staging. I mean I know that it's one thing to get the players to physically do more interesting stuff on the stage, but as far as the size of the thing, the lightshow, and whatever else - I'm just wondering if that's not limited by the places they have to play.Most of the venues seem to be clubs and theaters with a capacity 1200-2000. One of the venues only held a few hundred (if you trust fan guestimates). The Bethlehem, PA venue had a capacity of 3000, and someone who went to that show said there were entire rows of empty seats. So 1500-2000 seems to be the best size for the amount of people they're attracting. From what I can tell in the videos, on smaller stages, they do one or more of... use a second keyboard instead of the piano, have fewer or no risers, use one video screen instead of three. I haven't noticed any changes in the lighting; it looks like they still use all the different types of lights as on a larger stage, but maybe fewer of each type? |
Gregsynth 20.06.2012 23:30 |
AdamMethos: That person who suggested that about TSMGO, is just talking out their arse. Update: I took TSMGO in audacity and pitched it down a semitone then one full tone--Freddie's voice sounds very unnatural when it's pitched down. I also did the same thing for other Innuendo-era tracks, and Freddie's voice sounds "wrong" when pitched down. |
Missreclusive 21.06.2012 00:07 |
On my phone so short reply. The sound, and I mean all of it was fab! Sound alone, Roger met his goal. Very worthy concert if you have even a clue about music. Would warm hearts of Queen fans everywhere! |
john bodega 21.06.2012 00:55 |
"From what I can tell in the videos, on smaller stages, they do one or more of... use a second keyboard instead of the piano, have fewer or no risers, use one video screen instead of three. I haven't noticed any changes in the lighting; it looks like they still use all the different types of lights as on a larger stage, but maybe fewer of each type?" Makes sense from a production standpoint. Still, it's be something to see them on a big stage with some big shit going on. |
queenUSA 21.06.2012 06:58 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "a big stage with some big shit going on."Exactly right. Yet at $35 a ticket, I guess this is not possible? |
AdamMethos 21.06.2012 09:31 |
Maybe they budgeted the tour conservatively since it's the first one? Many predicted that QE would never get off the ground or would fold after a few shows so it was a big gamble although it may not seem like it now... Ticket prices seem to vary widely depending on city/venue. I saw someone saying they only paid $15 for a ticket. In Toronto, tickets were around $45 and $65 ($65 and $85 with taxes and processing fee). |
pipijolk 21.06.2012 15:26 |
AdamMethos wrote: Maybe they budgeted the tour conservatively since it's the first one? Many predicted that QE would never get off the ground or would fold after a few shows so it was a big gamble although it may not seem like it now... Ticket prices seem to vary widely depending on city/venue. I saw someone saying they only paid $15 for a ticket. In Toronto, tickets were around $45 and $65 ($65 and $85 with taxes and processing fee).Yeah, most likely they'd want to be cautious with this untested experiment. Don't want to go overboard when you don't really know what you have. I think they're learning pretty quickly 'what they have'. Hope it translates into bigger and better things. It really should. |
Missreclusive 21.06.2012 19:41 |
House of Blues was a very small venue and didn't seem sold out or packed. There were empty seats in the balcony, although, those people could have been standing on the floor. They give you the choice even if you've purchased balcony seats. Anyway, I wasn't happy with the crowd, they seemed a bit "bleh" to me. QE deserved a super enthusiastic crowd! I sat next to a man from England who said he had seen several Queen shows in the 70's and 80s. he was amazed at the sound. He and his g/f were traveling to see Q+AL if they could find tickets. He and I both were on our feet during LOTG and LOTGR. Excellent! In fact it was all excellent if you care how it sounds (broken record here) Small stage, one riser, one screen. No vids during first half, lights were good/ok for the small venue/stage. This would play great on a large stage with more production. I didn't miss the flash of it all! The musicians made up for it with the beautiful live sound. I promise you, this show doesn't disappoint. Marc was more animated than I've seen on Youtube, his voice is very Freddie-like and he sings the songs appropriate to his voice. Jeff Scott does the rocker voice, so does Jennifer. I didn't expect to enjoy them as much as I did, ..excellent. Drummer Tyler wowed with his IILWMC. You never had the feeling at all that they were impersonating Queen, it felt like a live Queen celebration that would move you to tears hearing those songs the way they should be played, with such precision and feeling. I did take ear plugs however, didn't really need them. It was loud but not shattering, once again and for the last time, I was utterly thrilled with the sound of nearly every song and performance except NIH and yes, bland performance to me. We stayed to have t-shirts signed and all were very gracious, very real and I never felt "rushed along" Tristan had a bit of edge to himself but it wasn't a turn off. Tyler signed a broken drum stick and handed it to the kiddo with me, a very nice gesture. I would do it again if I had the chance. This band is perfect to perform any and all of the Queen catalogue. Oh, I paid 137.00 total, including processing fees, for three tickets. I wanted to video, but they were shutting cameras down and even announced when we were in line outside to take them to the cars. Well, I decided that I wanted to immerse myself in the music and not bother with the camera. |
YAFF 21.06.2012 22:13 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I could be accused of being almost quasi-religious about my music, but it is very serious to me. I really think that if people aren't out there playing this stuff (even if it is QE and not the real band) then it might as well be dead and rotting in the ground! And since they're doing a good job, I can't find a good reason to complain. Even if the poses are getting a little silly. (That's my whiskey take on things, anyway).Interesting take. Live keeps it alive. I think you actually got me to "lighten up". It's a good cover band. I think Gary Mullen does a better Freddie overall. I dunno it just sucks Freddie left us so soon. We could have had about 7 new Queen albums (minimum) plus the opportunity to see them live for two bloody decades now. Most of my absolute faves are dead...Queen (Freddie), Dio, Roy Orbison, Albert King....never got to see any live |
dunga 21.06.2012 22:55 |
I also went to the Houston concert and it was awesome. I drove almost 650 miles in total and it was a worthwhile experience. The sound awesome and lights ok. I bought a ticket for balcony but the angle up there sucked so I decided to be standing on the floor. Like Missreclusive said the security was very tight in regards of the cameras. When they saw mine they removed my micro sd card. However I was able to record most of the audio (mp3, sorry). |
AdamMethos 22.06.2012 00:30 |
Bizarre about not allowing cameras. Talk about closing the barn door after the horses have left... Clip of AOBTD in Orlando (skip to 1:08) link For some reason Marc is singing it this time, instead of Jennifer, Yvan and Jeff. (Not that I'm complaining...) |
Wiley 22.06.2012 01:09 |
I'm pretty sure The Show Must Go On wasn't transposed in any way. Only songs that had this treatment, if I remember correctly, were Another One Bites the Dust (recorded in E but sped up to -almost-F) and No-One But You (slightly sped up but not even a semitone). Any other instances? |
Missreclusive 22.06.2012 08:28 |
dunga wrote: I also went to the Houston concert and it was awesome. I drove almost 650 miles in total and it was a worthwhile experience. The sound awesome and lights ok. I bought a ticket for balcony but the angle up there sucked so I decided to be standing on the floor. Like Missreclusive said the security was very tight in regards of the cameras. When they saw mine they removed my micro sd card. However I was able to record most of the audio (mp3, sorry).And I would love to have that audio! I drove from SA area to see them. We stood on the floor for a little while then went up to balcony, had kids with me and they wanted to be in the balcony or I would have stayed on the floor. |
john bodega 22.06.2012 09:54 |
"Any other instances?" Hammer To Fall is lower than standard - I can't remember if that's how they recorded it or not. |
Gregsynth 22.06.2012 10:31 |
Wiley wrote: I'm pretty sure The Show Must Go On wasn't transposed in any way. Only songs that had this treatment, if I remember correctly, were Another One Bites the Dust (recorded in E but sped up to -almost-F) and No-One But You (slightly sped up but not even a semitone). Any other instances?There's a few songs like Dust and Seven Seas that play half a semitone off! |
dunga 22.06.2012 14:01 |
@Missreclusive - I drove from Brownsville, and about the audio if someone can volunteer to edit it I'll be more than glad to share it :) |
AdamMethos 22.06.2012 14:58 |
AdamMethos wrote: Clip of AOBTD in Orlando (skip to 1:08) link For some reason Marc is singing it this time, instead of Jennifer, Yvan and Jeff. (Not that I'm complaining...)Apparently, Jennifer wasn't feeling well, so she just sang lead on Black Queen and the men took over lead vocalist duties on her other songs. I bet that was a show the "women shouldn't sing Queen" contingent would have liked to have gone to. ;-) What would be the reasons for transposing songs after the fact vs. just recording them in the preferred key? |
Missreclusive 22.06.2012 15:33 |
dunga wrote: @Missreclusive - I drove from Brownsville, and about the audio if someone can volunteer to edit it I'll be more than glad to share it :)Let me know if someone volunteers to do that, and thank you, I so wanted to use my camera but watched them react and I gave up. :-( I don't think I've ever enjoyed a concert more, and I've been to a few. I would travel to see it again if I could afford to. Would love to hear them do more of the less known songs. My Fairy King, Liar, Innuendo, I could go on. |
Missreclusive 22.06.2012 15:49 |
AdamMethos wrote: Bizarre about not allowing cameras. Talk about closing the barn door after the horses have left... Clip of AOBTD in Orlando (skip to 1:08) link For some reason Marc is singing it this time, instead of Jennifer, Yvan and Jeff. (Not that I'm complaining...)From that clip Marc did well with AOBTD. Jennifers shining moment was MOTBQ and also ITLOTG, ws glad Marc sang LOTGR. I'm now bitten by the bug, want to see more of Queen live. Would go see Q+AL if I could and certainly would see QE again. Not sure they would ever come back to Texass if Houston is an indicator. I did ask Jeff Scott Soto what the Dallas crowd was like and he said they were good. Oh, then, since Tristan sat with the "I'm a rock star" look on his face, nose a bit in the air (I didn't mind as he's talented hehe) I had to mention to him the bad review up north with regard to his antics. Well...he quipped back at me "Yeah well, some like it, some don't". Oh, I shouldn't have said anything, I did tell him I enjoyed him and he played great. I'm just one lowly little Queen fan out here. |
Wiley 22.06.2012 21:53 |
Gregsynth wrote: There's a few songs like Dust and Seven Seas that play half a semitone off!I always 'felt' there was something wrong with Seven Seas of Rhye. Also, there is one of the Queen II "remasters" in which this song's first guitar power chord sounds waaaay off, almost like it starts a bit flat and then hits the right note. Has anyone noticed this? (It could be the newer Island versions). Don't know if "flat" is the right word but it certainly sounds different to my ears. It's a bit like the click in the 93-94 remaster for Fat Bottomed Girls. It took me some time to convince myself that it hadn't been there the whole time and I didn't confirm it until I got another Jazz CD with different remastering. |
waunakonor 24.06.2012 15:30 |
Missreclusive wrote: Anyway, I wasn't happy with the crowd, they seemed a bit "bleh" to me. QE deserved a super enthusiastic crowd!My brother and I got told by a security guard to sit down. Bleh. |
Missreclusive 24.06.2012 20:04 |
You were in the balcony? No, I wasn't the crazy lady up there (dancing, doing what appeared loosely to be Freddie moves). At one point everyone was watching her instead of QE. They never told her to sit down. They ran me back to my seat once. |
Man from Zanzibar 24.06.2012 23:51 |
I was thinking recently about the possibility of them doing another QE tour performing even less "known" songs, including those never performed live by Queen. Here's my very own wish-tracklist of the "Greatest Songs" (not just "Hits"), from the records released 1984-1995. Of course I'm a bit bias towards Marc (as well as Innuendo and Made In Heaven, as you can see), but other singers have got something for them, too. I was trying to be realistic, but even after I've cut some tracks, though it is still 21 songs in total. Well, this is a dream after all. There's a lot of very tough songs to sing, so I don't expect the guys doing all of it, even if they're gonna do that kind of show anytime soon. In my opinion it's appropriate to put early stuff (pre Hot Space) in the first part of the show and perform the later (post Hot Space) ones after intermission. Presented here as on original CDs, so of course tracklist order is boring, lol. - It's A Hard Life (Jennifer, Yvan) - Keep Passing The Open Windows (Everyone) - Is This The World We Created (Marc on vocals and acoustic guitar) - Princes of the Universe (Jeff) - Khashoggi's Ship (Jeff) - The Miracle (Marc) - Breakthru (Jennifer) - Was It All Worth It (Everyone) - Innuendo (Jeff) - I'm Going Slightly Mad (Jennifer) - Don't Try So Hard (Yvan) - These Are The Days Of Our Lives (Marc & Jennifer) - Bijou (Marc on vocals, Brian & Tristan on guitars) - It's A Beautiful Day (Marc on vocals and piano, Brandon on keyboard) - Made In Heaven (Marc) - Let Me Live (Everyone) - Mother Love (Marc) - Heaven For Everyone (Jennifer) - Too Much Love Will Kill You (Yvan) - You Dont Fool Me (Jeff) - A Winter's Tale (Marc) Total: 21 [By performer, incl. with others, duets and everyone] Marc: 10 Jennifer: 7 Jeff: 6 Yvan: 6 |
queenUSA 25.06.2012 06:39 |
Man from Zanzibar I like your list and suggestions. Tyler Warren is also really good and I would like to hear him on Rock It (prime jive). Who would you suggest do the opener on that? I'm thinking I would like to hear Marc and Tyler. Also I would like to hear Put out the Fire. What's your take on singing assignment for that? |
Under Pressure 25.06.2012 23:11 |
At LA now... Performances are good, but honestly what's missing is the awe of standing in front of four humans capable of creating such tight, memorable music. Watching a 3D film in 2D, and there's no way around that... |
AdamMethos 26.06.2012 00:54 |
@Man from Zanzibar Interesting list. In the show, generally Jeff gets the hard rock, and Marc and Yvan the soft rock/ballads. Your list kind of sticks to that formula. I'd like to see a break from that pattern for a few songs just to make things interesting. In the show they gave Jeff a slower song (Save Me) and Marc a rocker song (One Vision). So maybe give Jeff I'm Going Slightly Mad (somehow I can really picture him doing this one) and Marc Princes Of The Universe. Found an interesting but highly technical article on the audio production in QE. I understood about 50% of it. link |
Missreclusive 26.06.2012 10:02 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: |
Wiley 30.06.2012 09:05 |
No surprise Jeff got to sing "Save me" as he also sung it (very well) 15 years ago for the "Dragon Attack" Tribute CD where Heavy Metal artists covered Queen. I have this CD in my car stereo at the moment and, to be honest, I think I can now appreciate it better because I know who these guys are as opposed to back in 97. By the way, in this one Glenn Hughes sings "Get Down Make Love" and is as close as we will get to hearing a Paul Rodgers version of it (lost opportunity in all their tours together). At times he sounds a lot like him. About Slightly Mad, I'm pretty sure he nailed it when he sung it in a Queen Convention. Jeff certainly can sing. I wouldn't mind if it was him singing in Kiev today. |
Man from Zanzibar 01.07.2012 04:57 |
Saw Queen + Adam Lambert concert in Ukraine on TV. Haha, what a goddamn joke. Are AL fans really trying to convince somebody that Lambert's voice suits Queen? Because you know what, it doesn't. Just find any fan video of Marc Martel & QE doing "Radio GaGa" or "Somebody to Love" and compare it to official videos from the Q+AL gig in Ukraine. While MM doesn't sound perfect there's much more "Queen" and it is overall more convincing than anything Lambert can offer. I don't care that he's a fabulous showman. The. Right. Voice. Just. Isn't. There. It may please AL fans, but not someone like me. I know he's not gay, not fun, not fabulous and quite boring, but from what I've heard so far, vocally Martel is still the Champion (after Freddie Mercury and George Michael, obviously). |
Another Roger (re) 01.07.2012 05:25 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: Saw Queen + Adam Lambert concert in Ukraine on TV. Haha, what a goddamn joke. Are AL fans really trying to convince somebody that Lambert's voice suits Queen? Because you know what, it doesn't. Just find any fan video of Marc Martel & QE doing "Radio GaGa" or "Somebody to Love" and compare it to official videos from the Q+AL gig in Ukraine. While MM doesn't sound perfect there's much more "Queen" and it is overall more convincing than anything Lambert can offer. I don't care that he's a fabulous showman. The. Right. Voice. Just. Isn't. There. It may please AL fans, but not someone like me. I know he's not gay, not fun, not fabulous and quite boring, but from what I've heard so far, vocally Martel is still the Champion (after Freddie Mercury and George Michael, obviously).Spot on! As sad as it sounds: I prefer the tribute band. Lambert was an absolute disaster. What an embarassment. |
croatiafan 01.07.2012 05:38 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: Saw Queen + Adam Lambert concert in Ukraine on TV. Haha, what a goddamn joke. Are AL fans really trying to convince somebody that Lambert's voice suits Queen? Because you know what, it doesn't. Just find any fan video of Marc Martel & QE doing "Radio GaGa" or "Somebody to Love" and compare it to official videos from the Q+AL gig in Ukraine. While MM doesn't sound perfect there's much more "Queen" and it is overall more convincing than anything Lambert can offer. I don't care that he's a fabulous showman. The. Right. Voice. Just. Isn't. There. It may please AL fans, but not someone like me. I know he's not gay, not fun, not fabulous and quite boring, but from what I've heard so far, vocally Martel is still the Champion (after Freddie Mercury and George Michael, obviously). |
croatiafan 01.07.2012 05:39 |
I agree 100% |
pipijolk 01.07.2012 09:23 |
croatiafan wrote: I agree 100% |
pipijolk 01.07.2012 09:25 |
I didn't see the Kiev show, but I didn't think he'd be a good fit with Queen. I think there's too much of the 'Lady Gaga self-promotional gimmickry' going on with AL and that turns me off, just as a first impression. He can sing, though. George Michael touched on it in his song 'Freedom', freedom from the gimmicks that are aimed to draw attention to oneself and not on the merit of one's vocal prowess or lyrical ability and cleverness in writing. I am not too much a fan of the 'over-the-top' theatre that pop music delivers on stage, like Britney Spears, Madonna, Lady Gaga. I don't go to a concert to watch a Burlesque show or other pretentiousness, I want to experience the music and sound, and perhaps a little showmanship, but not the modern day "I can be more over-the-top than you" mentality. I think QE was just a solid show, strong music, some 'eye-candy' with the lighting and fog effects, but I liked the muted feel of the 1st act (the low-key club atmosphere), and the staging of the 2nd act was a nice contrast to the 1st. |
Missreclusive 01.07.2012 20:15 |
All anyone has to do is go watch/listen to Marc with QE on Youtube, then watch and listen to AL singing the same damned songs and Marc Martel wins hands down! NOT because he sounds like Freddie but because he can sing and has control of is voice. He isn't afraid of an audience, he knows how to perform even though he isn't flamboyant, he got the audience going and was good. AL is green compared to MM. I don't know for the life of me how anyone with ears could say AL can do any of Queens songs and do them well. He didn't have much time to prepare? Doesn't matter, his voice was all over the place. He can't cover his mistakes or improvise and even if he could his voice is NOT suited to do Queen. Yeah, he was Roger and Brians choice and I can't figure out why. |
Missreclusive 01.07.2012 20:21 |
I'm on a rant here, lol. I LOVE the music! I'm mad at myself for caring one way or the other. I wanted to like Q+AL, I wanted to enjoy it. I just couldnt enjoy AL. I did have fun watching Brian and Roger and Rogers son, I did enjoy the clips of Freddie and it made me feel so nostalgic inside. Hard to get past the fact that Freddie is gone, I am glad Roger had the good sense to do QE and to allow them to tour USA! I feel privileged to have experienced that. |
AdamMethos 02.07.2012 01:48 |
Missreclusive wrote: AL is green compared to MM. I don't know for the life of me how anyone with ears could say AL can do any of Queens songs and do them well. He didn't have much time to prepare? Doesn't matter, his voice was all over the place. He can't cover his mistakes or improvise and even if he could his voice is NOT suited to do Queen. Yeah, he was Roger and Brians choice and I can't figure out why.I don't think it's that AL is green. AL has been performing for 20 years since he was 10 years old. In comparison, MM has been performing for around 12 years. I think it's preparation and perhaps knowing to prioritize what's important. AL had three weeks of rehearsal with Roger and Brian, right? MM had three weeks of rehearsal too -- he had to skip out for a week during QE rehearsals to do some tour dates with his other band. If you count that MM does backing vocals on many of the songs that he's not lead on AND he learned piano and guitar parts for a number of songs, then I think the amount of stuff MM had to learn for QE is equal to or slightly more than what AL had to learn for the Kiev concert. Yet even though MM's stage presence was lacking in the first QE concert compared to now, musically he was strong from the start. I don't think MM is necessarily a bigger talent than AL. But I think that from the time he won the contest last December, he probably started learning Queen songs, especially the ones that were new to him, backwards and forwards. In comparison, there's that interview with AL just before rehearsals for Kiev starts where he admits to not yet knowing all the songs but being keen on figuring out what he's going to wear. |
waunakonor 02.07.2012 14:14 |
I've been listening to a recording of the Detroit show almost nonstop for the past day or so and still absolutely love it. QE, I would say, is my first real hard rock concert, and since I was fairly close to the front, with all the speakers and action on stage and such, it was exhilarating. I was in another world for a couple hours, interrupted only briefly by intermission, a world of Queen music. It was fantastic. I'm glad I got the chance to experience it. Even listening to a recording of the same show now, I can see what I loved so much about it. I have great memories from that night. It's sad that I had to settle for this instead of the real thing (Freddie, Brian, Roger, and John), but this was still an absolutely excellent time for me. |
AdamMethos 03.07.2012 02:34 |
Went to the concert in Calgary tonight. The background music playing in the theater before the concert started was the hidden track from the Made In Heaven album! Does anyone remember that from other venues on the tour? |
Missreclusive 03.07.2012 09:22 |
AdamMethos wrote: Went to the concert in Calgary tonight. The background music playing in the theater before the concert started was the hidden track from the Made In Heaven album! Does anyone remember that from other venues on the tour? I dont remember that at all. |
MadTheSwine73 03.07.2012 09:56 |
Yeah, I do. |
waunakonor 04.07.2012 09:19 |
I do, too. I was walking in to the theater a little while before the show started and thought--is that, hey, that's Track 13 from MIH! Then the "La la la la la la" from The Prophet's Song started and that was also pretty cool. |
Brucek 04.07.2012 11:20 |
I caught QE in Boston at the House of Blues while on Business. Different, I wouldn't see it again. A little cheezy. |
AdamMethos 04.07.2012 12:40 |
I didn't notice the MIH in Toronto. But the lobby area in Toronto is smaller so people went into the theater earlier resulting in a noisy theater by the time I went in. The Calgary theater lobby is huge, and they were serving drinks and snacks, and had cocktail tables set up and everything. So a lot of people stayed in the lobby until just before showtime. I went into the theater about 20 mintues before the show. I don't remember if they played anything before the MIH but my ears perked up when it started. They played the entire song then the lights went down and Prophet Song started. Cool! |
pipijolk 04.07.2012 13:14 |
http://reviews.ticketmaster.com/7171/1712524/queen-extravaganza-reviews/reviews.htm Almost 200 reviews from concert goes posted at Ticketmaster. 4.6/5 stars. |
pipijolk 04.07.2012 13:17 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkE7jbFDVew Skip to 8:30 for Marc's appearance on Russian TV. Brian says Marc is a 'gift from the gods', after the clip of Marc. |
s.m. 04.07.2012 16:56 |
beautiful concert yesterday at jubilee auditorium in edmonton i wont go into details how i cried like a baby, since it was my first time i was listeting to queen songs live, but i will share soume thoughts about the concert band was crisp, tight, marc martel was obviously the favorite of the crowd (btw, full hall, i was pleasently suprised) he sounded great jss was a great addition, he has the spirit of a rock star, and is not shy bass player and the drum player were wicked, i loved their contribution, and the guitar players were good as a queen fan, i was impressed great experience for me personally, and the atmosphere was electric the whole way straight from the gig, band came and singed stuff, took photos, really humble people (and there you could see that there is a buzz about MM, eveyrbody wanted him) i am usually critical of QP, but roger made a good move, and the product was excellent |
AdamMethos 04.07.2012 19:11 |
The QE website has added the band members' tour highlights to their bio pages: link |
Missreclusive 04.07.2012 21:02 |
AdamMethos wrote: The QE website has added the band members' tour highlights to their bio pages: linkThank you for the link, I enjoyed reading what they had to say. As for QE, I say, bring it back! |
Missreclusive 04.07.2012 21:03 |
Do you suppose if they had found Marc before AL, they might have toured with him instead? |
john bodega 05.07.2012 00:03 |
If the decision was business-motivated? Probably not. Tons of people have said in the past that Queen should've gone with an 'unknown', but I reckon they'd have been shot down just as much for doing that as they have been for anything else. If they were doing it just with the music in mind, I'd like to think they'd have given Martel a go. He can do the job, and he can do it better than anyone that they've got. Shame it won't happen. |
inu-liger 05.07.2012 05:46 |
AdamMethos wrote: Went to the concert in Calgary tonight. The background music playing in the theater before the concert started was the hidden track from the Made In Heaven album! Does anyone remember that from other venues on the tour? Ditto at the Edmonton show |
pipijolk 05.07.2012 09:35 |
"If they were doing it just with the music in mind, I'd like to think they'd have given Martel a go. He can do the job, and he can do it better than anyone that they've got. Shame it won't happen." I wouldn't be quick to dismiss any type of collaboration with Marc. If they have written songs with Freddie in mind, Marc would be, at least, worth a sit down in the recording studio to see what they've got. It wouldn't hurt. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Marc show up on stage with the guys somewhere down the road, even if a single instance, not necessarily a full blown tour. |
Missreclusive 05.07.2012 10:08 |
Marc has far more stage personality now than he did in the beginning. His charisma has grown. I like the fact that he's entirely appropriate and easy on the eyes, certainly not annoying to watch. I hope Brian and Roger realize what they've found in Marc. I admit to being a bit obssessed when it comes to Freddie. AL grates on me so much that I can't watch or listen to him. If Marc would adopt a bit more "rocker" and push his voice a bit (LOL, take up smoking! j/k), he could sing any or all of Queens songs. |
AdamMethos 05.07.2012 12:28 |
When I look at how much MM has grown in stage personality from the beginning of the tour, I think it would have been a mistake to have him go from YouTube audition to fronting Queen in Kiev. Not that it would have been disasterous, just that he would have been out of his element and overshadowed by Brian and Roger. I think doing one or two Extravaganza tours is the right place for him to be right now. At the Calgary concert, he did a little bit of vocal improv during the audience-as-choir part of STL. That would have never happened at the begining of the tour. So he's also getting familiar and comfortable enough with Queen songs to play around with the melodies on the fly. One thing I find ridiculous about AL fans who criticize MM is that they think it's OK (fantastic even) for AL to have a similar flamboyance and stage presence as Freddie but somehow not OK for MM to have a similar voice as Freddie. Why is capturing one aspect of Freddie somehow more legit than another? It's not. IMO, it's just personal preference whether you prefer "your" Queen with the sound (MM), the spectacle (AL), both sound and spectacle (Gary Mullen and other tributes), or neither (Paul Rodgers). Since I came to know and like Queen through their music and not concerts, my preference is for sound over spectacle. |
Missreclusive 05.07.2012 12:36 |
Freddie could get away with the flamboyance and even though it wasn't who he was in private, the audience always saw him as fun and sincere. AL, no way, he's full of himself in an obnoxious way. I agree with you about the AL fans. One thing for sure, I don't think AL fans would be Queen fans if not for this tour. Worlds apart they are. I just bet most of them never heard anything past WARTC or WWRY, maybe Bo Rhap. |
Man from Zanzibar 05.07.2012 16:16 |
Brucek wrote: I caught QE in Boston at the House of Blues while on Business. Different, I wouldn't see it again. A little cheezy.If you consider QE cheesy, your head probably would've exploded during Gary Mullen's act, lol. I say the cheese factor was minimal here. |
Man from Zanzibar 05.07.2012 17:30 |
Missreclusive wrote: Freddie could get away with the flamboyance and even though it wasn't who he was in private, the audience always saw him as fun and sincere.Watching Freddie on stage I see a man who's having a great time performing songs he wrote with his bandmates / friends Roger, Brian and John and having fun playing with the audience. It appear easy for Freddie even when this wasn't the case at all. Adam, on the other hand, gives that "trying too hard" vibe, that never goes away. It's not like he's a bad guy or something. Just don't try so hard, Adam, dont try so hard. |
cjpew 05.07.2012 20:20 |
AdamMethos wrote: Went to the concert in Calgary tonight. The background music playing in the theater before the concert started was the hidden track from the Made In Heaven album! Does anyone remember that from other venues on the tour?Hey Adam - I was there too! Your videos are great - where were you sitting? Looks like you were close to where I was (11th row) - my videos came out great sound-wise but I couldn't quite figure out how to zoom properly with my phone to get closer video. I actually found the sound in the theatre a little strange - everyone except Jeff sounded a little 'nasal' to me - but it sure didn't come across that way on the videos so it must just have been the acoustics in the theatre. Anyway - great show, and thanks for putting your videos on YouTube - you got some I didn't. I was too busy singing along and rocking out :) |
AdamMethos 05.07.2012 22:26 |
I was in the 15th row. I shot video with my phone and a small video camera. With the phone, no zoom, but good sound pickup (strangely enough). With the video camera, nice zoom but bad sound pickup (sigh). Yeah, I thought the voices sounded a bit high-pitched but it didn't come out that way on the recordings. Strange. Which songs did you record? Here a pic of the autographs I got. :D |
cjpew 05.07.2012 22:41 |
AdamMethos wrote: I was in the 15th row. I shot video with my phone and a small video camera. With the phone, no zoom, but good sound pickup (strangely enough). With the video camera, nice zoom but bad sound pickup (sigh). Yeah, I thought the voices sounded a bit high-pitched but it didn't come out that way on the recordings. Strange. Which songs did you record? Here a pic of the autographs I got. :DNice pic :)- I got one of those bags autographed. I got several photos of the concert, most turned out pretty good - and some of the band in the meet 'n greet too. Videos - I've got Killer Queen, I'm In Love With My Car, You Take My Breath Away and The Show Must Go On in full. Partials of BH, STL, Crazy Little Thing and Lazing On a Sunday Afternoon. Actually now that I've uploaded to my computer the videos look a bit closer. |
unrauv1 06.07.2012 16:09 |
I hope Roger Taylor and Brian May don't kill QE, I saw that russian interview and they hinted on how much money it costed. The press is raving about how great Q+AL are, so maybe this project's days are numbered. |
AdamMethos 06.07.2012 18:17 |
I saw that too, Roger saying that he hasn't seen any $$$ from QE yet. The tour was still on during the interview, so hopefully the financials will work out in the end. They had a fair amount of sell out shows and most of the non-sell out shows looked well attended. So I don't see how the tour could be underperforming unless they were expecting it to sell out almost everywhere or unless a lot of unbudgeted expenses came up once the show hit the road... The backstage crew surprises the band onstage during FBG in Edmonton. Looks like they're having more fun than in Moscow (the band anyway, not the audience -- sheesh, Canadian audiences!). ;-) link |
inu-liger 06.07.2012 19:12 |
Yeah, oddly enough I think the Edmontonians audience was actually MUCH quieter at this show as opposed to when I saw 'Queen - It's A Kinda Magic' at the same venue 3 years ago! I was kinda wtf'ing at that o.O |
unrauv1 06.07.2012 20:18 |
Maybe trim down the proformers and let Marc carry more of the show. But my gut tell me this may have been an experiment by Roger Taylor, Brian May is most likely looking an the bottom line costs. It would be sad to see it end. Saw QE in Vancouver BC and they were polished, tight and fun. Oh well it's their money. I also feel there would be a strange dynamic between Queen + AL and QE. There is no replacement for youth and vigor in the whole band, Marc's voice only got better and better from start to finish. Adam Lambert would feel threatened an insecure. |
Missreclusive 10.07.2012 09:53 |
I cant help but believe that Marc must be missing QE backing. Not dissing his band at all, but they aren't what the others were. Here's a YT of him July 7th doing STL with his band. link |
AdamMethos 10.07.2012 11:58 |
Cool seeing Marc play the guitar solo! But yeah, seems to be a lack of energy in that performance compared to QE and also (strangely) compared to previous performances of STL with his band before the QE tour. Still coming down off the high maybe? |
john bodega 10.07.2012 15:40 |
I'd say the QE shows have done him a world of good. He's really sounding onto it. The band, not so much. |
Missreclusive 10.07.2012 16:39 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I'd say the QE shows have done him a world of good. He's really sounding onto it. The band, not so much.Thats what I thought, I think Marcs energy is really good and he has grown a lot. The band is dragging him down and to Adams comment, I bet he really misses QE musicians. For the hundreth time, why o why cant Brian and Roger take this guy on for a while? He clearly has heart for the music. |
BelfastQueenFan 10.07.2012 18:21 |
Hey can anyone post that youtube video of Marc Martel in ahotel room with his friends and he has a Freddie tash and is laughing and making jokes about it? I know it was on this thread I just cant find it. |
AdamMethos 10.07.2012 18:26 |
BelfastQueenFan wrote: Hey can anyone post that youtube video of Marc Martel in ahotel room with his friends and he has a Freddie tash and is laughing and making jokes about it? I know it was on this thread I just cant find it.The one where he sings first lines of Killer Queen? link |
BelfastQueenFan 10.07.2012 18:49 |
Yep thats it cheers |
inu-liger 11.07.2012 00:54 |
From the show I went to: |
Man from Zanzibar 11.07.2012 13:34 |
I'd love the hell out of it if Brian and Roger would joined the gang at least for couple of the bigger gigs (and hopefully live DVD recorded there) after their Q+AL tour is finished. Let's face it, Jeff is going to push his own solo career now or after the fall tour (he even admitted himself he set few things on hold because of QE). Marc as well, he's not that big of a star by himself, of course, not anywhere near Soto. He'll be back to his tiny-ass Christian rock band and release his own solo EP (heh, good luck with that, pal). He made it clear that QE thing is just for this one year for him. So by the end of 2012 we are left with Yvan and Jennifer? Dr. Bri, Sir Rog... Fall tour, make it happen... P-p-please? |
pipijolk 11.07.2012 17:01 |
link Skip ahead to 2:15 to hear Marc talk about other opportunities, where he catches himself before saying too much. |
pipijolk 11.07.2012 17:02 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A73Q4XKLs8w here is the link, better |
Missreclusive 11.07.2012 18:38 |
yes I had noticed that but thought at the time it was his "wishful thinking". All up to Brian and Roger. I think public response to Martel and QE was very positive. Not sure how extensive the advertizing was. Does anyone know how many of the shows were sold out? Any? |
Man from Zanzibar 11.07.2012 19:44 |
pipijolk wrote: link Skip ahead to 2:15 to hear Marc talk about other opportunities, where he catches himself before saying too much. Marc: Writing with... [um] That's just wishful thinking, I guess. Somehow I doubt Roger offered him an opportunity to write together just like that, haha. Now maybe things have changed, after he has been tested by singing his ass off live and being on the road with QE, though, he's not leading the whole time. Now, after a pretty successful summer tour, obviously, he must be totally bonkers to refuse if Roger or Brian would ever ask him to jam around in studio with a few glasses of champagne and occasional grand piano. In terms of studio collaborations, that Queen + Paul Rodgers album was like a blasphemy for many, if I remember correctly. It could not be much worse if they'd choose younger guy with kinda tenor voice that can handle rock, pop and even some opera. As for his work as a composer he's heavily influenced by Queen. Quite a few Downhere songs written by him (for example Living the Dream or My Last Amen) sound remotely like a bit more poppy Queen, once you cut off the Christian lyrics. He's fine at powerful hymns (e.g. Let Me Rediscover You) and slower ballads (Surrender, How Many Kings), if you keep him away from writing down religious stuff he's okay. His first solo single "Up in the Air" is completely secular, which say something. As songwriter he's by lightyear not even near Freddie's brilliance and I think he understands that. Still, he was daring enough to rip-off Queen's Bicycle Race and wrote "Audience", which his band performs for their listeners. I'd buy the CD, though, just like I bought Q+PR album (and I still play it occasionally), just out of curiosity if nothing else. |
pipijolk 11.07.2012 19:59 |
"Marc as well, he's not that big of a star by himself, of course, not anywhere near Soto. He'll be back to his tiny-ass Christian rock band and release his own solo EP (heh, good luck with that, pal). He made it clear that QE thing is just for this one year for him." I posted the YouTube clip to show that Marc is open to broadening his musical chops, which differs a little from your quote. It sounds like he'd love to work with Roger and Brian. |
AdamMethos 11.07.2012 20:43 |
I don't hear a similarity between Audience and Bicycle Race other than they're both quirky songs. Where do you see the similarity? I took that comment to be wishful thinking too. But from that interview and others, MM seems interested in writing and performing original music, so I don't think he'll stick with QE beyond the year unless there's something more to entice him. (I think I read somewhere that he's putting his wife through college, so if QE pays really well compared to his band, maybe that would be incentive...) He's written 5 songs for his solo EP and I think they're all secular, so good sign? I hope he'll still sing with QE or Queen infrequently even if he quits as one of the lead singers because it would be a shame to never hear him sing Queen songs again except for when his band covers STL or WWRY. |
pipijolk 11.07.2012 20:51 |
Marc and the QE gang having a good time (they're all there) with Marc's brother David on lead. |
Missreclusive 11.07.2012 21:32 |
pipijolk, thank you for posting that vid. I cant help saying that I just bet Freddie would love that one! Fun. I so hope Marc will continue with Queen in some fashion. |
Man from Zanzibar 11.07.2012 22:03 |
AdamMethos wrote: I don't hear a similarity between Audience and Bicycle Race other than they're both quirky songs. Where do you see the similarity? "Audience, Audience" / "Bicycle, Bicycle" ? Haha Sorry If I was being rude. It's not me, it's Martel himself. In fact someone asked him on radio show (i think it's still on youtube somewhere) if Queen would allow him to sing one of his own songs and what would it be. His answer was like "Since I'm not gonna preach in front of a non-christian crowd I'd probably choose Audience", then he confessed that bits of the little song was made after "that Bicycle Song of Queen" and he with his friends had fun about it, guessing if someone from their audience will notice anything. Apparently it's not blatant enough, which isn't a bad thing. |
Man from Zanzibar 11.07.2012 23:09 |
pipijolk wrote: Marc and the QE gang having a good time (they're all there) with Marc's brother David on lead.Precious frikkin Lord, I love his brother. David's "I want to be Queen" faux-audition tape in a dress is hysterical. |
AdamMethos 11.07.2012 23:51 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: "Audience, Audience" / "Bicycle, Bicycle" ? Haha Sorry If I was being rude.I didn't think you were rude. I didn't doubt there was a similarity; I just couldn't hear it. But now... DUH! Love the Queen sing-a-long! I spotted the obvious: Marc, Jeff & Francois. And maybe Tristan at 2:07. Where are the rest??? Came across this surfing YT. MM isn't known for unusual costume choices, so what is this? A military uniform? link And another variation, almost a wifebeater here LOL. link |
AdamMethos 12.07.2012 00:30 |
Missreclusive wrote: Does anyone know how many of the shows were sold out? Any?Quebec City, Montreal, Toronto (Canada loves Queen!), Chicago and Orlando were sold out. Not sure if there are others. I saw discounted tickets for LA and a few other cities pop up on Groupon. Worst was Minneapolis which only sold around 50%. Guess they won't be going back there if there's a second tour! |
Another Roger (re) 12.07.2012 01:31 |
Audience do not sound anything like Bicycle Race. If you think thats similar you can almost find similaries in any song. |
pipijolk 12.07.2012 10:10 |
Where are the rest??? Jennifer is on the couch, see her when they pan the camera 3:45 or so. Not sure about Brandon, Tyler and Brian, they're probably there somewhere. As far as sellouts, it is easy to sell out a smaller venue, so you should look at overall attendance numbers. I don't think Minnesota is a large capacity theater, but 50% of 5,000 is still 2,500, which is more than some sellouts at, say 1,500. |
Man from Zanzibar 12.07.2012 13:42 |
AdamMethos wrote: wifebeaterThey should've made an international brand out of this, really. Or... maybe they already have. LOL |
Man from Zanzibar 12.07.2012 13:48 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: Audience do not sound anything like Bicycle Race. If you think thats similar you can almost find similaries in any song.If I didn't listen to Marc on radio show talking about it, I'd probably agree with you. |
Another Roger (re) 12.07.2012 14:08 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote:Probably :)Another Roger (re) wrote: Audience do not sound anything like Bicycle Race. If you think thats similar you can almost find similaries in any song.If I didn't listen to Marc on radio show talking about it, I'd probably agree with you. I love Audience and Bicycle Race btw ;) |
Man from Zanzibar 12.07.2012 15:29 |
Another Roger (re) wrote: Probably :) I love Audience and Bicycle Race btw ;)Well, maybe the "rip-off" wasn't the right word for it, I apologize. Being overall Queen-esque and having the "Audience, Audience" line gave it such effect. Of course, I doubt that B&R will sue Marc for plagiarism anytime soon. If anything they must be flattered. Something like "Hey, this boy didn't just stole our shit, he's fucking with it in pure creative way", hehe. Actually I'd like him to continue... you know... messing with it. Preferably in studio with the guys themselves. |
Missreclusive 12.07.2012 15:50 |
lol I finally listened to "Audience". Hard to get the connection but if he says so... |
AdamMethos 12.07.2012 17:19 |
I think the only direct connection is the Audience Audience riff is like Bicycle Bicycle. Indirectly, it's quirky and sung in a stylized way a bit reminiscent of Lazing On A Sunday and Seaside Rendezvous. |
Missreclusive 12.07.2012 18:11 |
yes I can see that, totally |
AdamMethos 13.07.2012 20:56 |
Christmas in July! If you like Audience, check out what MM did with the Christmas carol Good King Wenceslas, a song that I never liked much till I heard this version. (There are already a couple live versions on YT with crappy sound that don't do the vocals justice. I uploaded the album version.) link |
Man from Zanzibar 13.07.2012 22:01 |
I'm listening now to the audio recordings from Edmonton. I have to note that Marc finally nailed the "I had a dream when I was young" part in One Vision properly. Funk me, Freddie, that was so sharp and good. Why oh why... Who needs the North American tour of Q+AL (besides the glamberts, of course), when there may be delicious Q+MM that will sound almost like Queen. Are you effin kidding me? Again, Lambert who? |
Missreclusive 13.07.2012 22:05 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: I'm listening now to the audio recordings from Edmonton. I have to note that Marc finally nailed the "I had a dream when I was young" part in One Vision properly. Funk me, Freddie, that's was so sharp and good. Why oh why... Who needs the North American tour of Q+AL (besides the glamberts, of course), when there may be delicious Q+MM. Are you effin kidding me?Again, Lambert who?THANK YOU! I've been asking the same question and I would love it so much if only... |
Missreclusive 13.07.2012 22:12 |
Man from Zanzibar, that paragraph you wrote needs to be forwarded to MM! Care if I do? |
Man from Zanzibar 13.07.2012 22:41 |
Missreclusive wrote: Man from Zanzibar, that paragraph you wrote needs to be forwarded to MM! Care if I do? Hahaha, go for it, dear. Though, I think it's the Q+ boys, who should give it a thought (and it's their call, after all). Now there's two possible guest singers to go with on the US tour Very famous one and vocally appropriate one (to the legacy of Queen). Also don't bother with people around the world in countries like Brazil and Italy begging for the international gigs, they're just daydreaming, lol. |
Man from Zanzibar 13.07.2012 22:54 |
AdamMethos wrote: Christmas in July! If you like Audience, check out what MM did with the Christmas carol Good King Wenceslas, a song that I never liked much till I heard this version. (There are already a couple live versions on YT with crappy sound that don't do the vocals justice. I uploaded the album version.)linkThis is one mighty sexy version of that Christmas carol, dare I say. Never heard this Downhere version before, actually. |
pipijolk 14.07.2012 09:08 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: I'm listening now to the audio recordings from Edmonton. I have to note that Marc finally nailed the "I had a dream when I was young" part in One Vision properly. Funk me, Freddie, that was so sharp and good. Why oh why... Who needs the North American tour of Q+AL (besides the glamberts, of course), when there may be delicious Q+MM that will sound almost like Queen. Are you effin kidding me?Again, Lambert who?I love it, I agree, unfortunately, AL has a very well organized following who are probably skewing the favorable side of the feedback, such is the way of popular American Idol performers. I don't really have anything against Q+AL, at least during this run, but if it prevents any Q+QE (MM) then I would be very disappointed. Marc has the sound I want to hear paired with Queen's music. |
The Real Wizard 14.07.2012 10:58 |
pipijolk wrote: AL has a very well organized following who are probably skewing the favorable side of the feedback, such is the way of popular American Idol performers.Or maybe it's just a small minority of Queen fans who are against the whole thing because they refuse to let Brian and Roger evolve into different directions. The tens of thousands of people who have seen the band don't seem to have too much issue with it ! |
pipijolk 14.07.2012 11:40 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Or maybe it's just a small minority of Queen fans who are against the whole thing because they refuse to let Brian and Roger evolve into different directions. The tens of thousands of people who have seen the band don't seem to have too much issue with it !I don't begrudge Brian and Roger for continuing on and following their passion. I don't have anything bad to say about Q+AL, but as I said, I would be very disappointed if that prevents Marc from working with the pair. I think it would be a lost opportunity. The thing is now, with the apparent success of Q+AL, it would be difficult to part ways and do something with MM, and you would get a lashing from the AL fans who are well organized on the net, don't underestimate their tenacity. |
pipijolk 14.07.2012 11:49 |
To summarize my sentiments re: MM and AL, England Dan & John Ford Coley sang it best, |
Man from Zanzibar 14.07.2012 16:14 |
The Real Wizard wrote: The tens of thousands of people who have seen the band don't seem to have too much issue with it !I've heard that point before, lol. Something about tens of thousands who can't go wrong. As for Brian and Roger, I think they chose the singer, that can at least hit the right notes (which he does, the other question how exactly he's doing it), but more importantly the fact that he is insanely popular right now, with the guaranteed audience, buying tickets to every show he's on like crazy. In other words "this guy is the money". Many people look forward to the actual show, stage flash, a ridiculous "sex appeal" factor or anything, that is not related to the actual vocals and musical performances. That's fine, Adam is their fella for sure. Although I don't think there's been much consideration about how exactly the guy will sound in respect of Queen's legacy. While Lambert's decent, I can't shake off the feeling I'm watching the Queen Week on American Idol or an episode of Glee (without the autotune). Yep, people like me who prefer "the legacy sound", comparing to the roaring army of AL-lovers, obviously are minority. Not exactly a fabulous minority, but still very proud one. ;) |
AdamMethos 15.07.2012 20:57 |
pipijolk wrote: To summarize my sentiments re: MM and AL, England Dan & John Ford Coley sang it bestMan, that is one sad song! I never heard it before but it echoes my sentiments too. The first single from MM's upcoming EP (which was released just before the QE tour started) has been pulled from iTunes and Amazon. Apparently it's going to be re-released under a label. I wonder which label signed him. I will do a spit-take if it's Hollywood Records. ;-) |
john bodega 15.07.2012 23:05 |
"The tens of thousands of people who have seen the band don't seem to have too much issue with it" That's meaningless, though. If they supported child labour, would their opinion still be worth anything? (Before anyone says it, Adam Lambert is worse than child labour). |
Missreclusive 16.07.2012 09:46 |
I don't have to see AL live to rethink what my ears/eyes tell me is true. I never saw Queen live back in the day but the videos, recordings and even the crappiest of youtube vids show the brilliance. Even the less than great vids of QE on youtube are good, one can hear/see it was a good show. AL is just not what I want to see or hear, nor is Justin Beiber and he has tens of thousands of fans. You can add all sorts of flash to a show and some good sounds interjected and hype up thousands of people, doesn't mean there's an ounce of brilliance to it. ugh. |
john bodega 16.07.2012 13:36 |
The 'thousands of people can't be wrong!' argument is a laugh, because those same thousand people will be wrong whenever it suits the person bringing it up. It's nebulous, pointless, illogical and unreliable. |
Missreclusive 16.07.2012 14:02 |
Zebonka12 wrote: The 'thousands of people can't be wrong!' argument is a laugh, because those same thousand people will be wrong whenever it suits the person bringing it up. It's nebulous, pointless, illogical and unreliable.Yes, pointless. However, there are plenty of sheeple on this earth. |
unrauv1 16.07.2012 15:44 |
So I take it Marc is working on a solo effort away from Downhere? I would guess this will cause a bunch of friction in the Downhere band. I feel Downhere has run its course and Marc should be cultivating new oppertunities. I am not confident that QE will continue. |
unrauv1 16.07.2012 16:12 |
Man talk about sound legacy you just can't get much better than: link |
Missreclusive 16.07.2012 17:01 |
unrauv1 wrote: Man talk about sound legacy you just can't get much better than: linkVery true. I would pay triple or more to see them again and wow, if they would do more early Queen. Hammer to Fall, Liar, Millionaire Waltz. I would travel and pay far more than I did. That legacy Queen sound is hard to beat. I don't even really care about all the "flash" surrounding it. I sat during this concert and at times closed my eyes. |
pipijolk 16.07.2012 18:17 |
I share the sentiment, re: QE. If Queen + AL were on tour concurrently with Queen Extravaganza, I would opt to see QE to be immersed with the old Queen sound. I am not impressed with theatrics as much as I am with the 'sound vibe' that moves you inside and out, where you can close your eyes and lose yourself in the music. Glambert, Gaga and all the pop-star attention seekers don't impress me with that choice of self-promotion, but that's just me and I know a lot of people love to drink that up. |
AdamMethos 16.07.2012 20:33 |
unrauv1 wrote: So I take it Marc is working on a solo effort away from Downhere? I would guess this will cause a bunch of friction in the Downhere band. I feel Downhere has run its course and Marc should be cultivating new oppertunities. I am not confident that QE will continue.No friction. One of the bandmembers had a new baby this spring and wanted to spend more time with his family, so the band's not touring as much this year as in the past. The solo project is just something to do with the extra downtime. He auditioned for QE for the same reason. Anyone who utterly despises AL's voice will not find him palatable in any format. For me, he's fine in small doses and annoying in large. So I would go to Q+AL because he wouldn't be singing the entire time and the spectacle of the live show would help to distract if his voice becomes annoying. How about QE opening for Q+AL on a North American tour? Since Q+AL would do mostly greatest hits, and they wouldn't want a crossover in the set lists, then QE would do more of the lesser known songs. I'd be down with that! haha |
Missreclusive 16.07.2012 21:39 |
Ok Ambassador Adam, heh, I'll bite. I would do that as long as QE goes on first and shows AL how its done. Stupid me, of course the lesser of the two bands goes on first! Then, I either exit or might stay if there's enough alcohol (for which I rarely drink) and I have a shuttle or cab waiting after. |
Man from Zanzibar 16.07.2012 23:46 |
unrauv1 wrote: So I take it Marc is working on a solo effort away from Downhere? I would guess this will cause a bunch of friction in the Downhere band. I feel Downhere has run its course and Marc should be cultivating new oppertunities. I am not confident that QE will continue. Apparently, Downhere boys always were and still are his close friends and buddies. If Roger decides to arrange second QE leg, then Marc will do fall tour with Extravaganza and that's it. It's not like Marc's gonna suddenly blow up like a superstar in early 2013, the viral fame is fading away already. Even if he is busy with his solo stuff I'm sure he'd always be there for his friends. He is not a lead singer in the band, after all, I think Jason is co-songwriter and co-singer in the band. They will go on just fine, releasing new CDs and performing live gigs all around the country. His solo works will probably achieve some recognition, to say the least. Of course, not anywhere near seven million listeners on YT and screaming choir of devoted fans (Lambert-level). All I know, that I will enjoy the hell out of his goddamn voice as long as I'm around. Just one little advice for Marc: for the love of Angry God, don't you give your first solo CD title "Mr. Bad Guy". It WILL tank, make no mistake, lol :-P |
AdamMethos 17.07.2012 00:05 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: Just one little advice for Marc: for the love of Angry God, don't you give your first solo CD title "Mr. Bad Guy". It WILL tank, make no mistake, lol :-PNo no no. Mr. Bad Guy doesn't suit a Christian rocker. So how about... Mr. Good Guy? :-P Missreclusive wrote: Ok Ambassador Adam, heh, I'll bite. I would do that as long as QE goes on first and shows AL how its done. Stupid me, of course the lesser of the two bands goes on first! Then, I either exit or might stay if there's enough alcohol (for which I rarely drink) and I have a shuttle or cab waiting after.Just use the intermission between acts to get as tipsy as you need in order to last until the part of the set with just Brian and Roger starts. ;-) Speaking of unlikely scenarios. There's a quote from an old Doctor Who TV movie where the Doctor says, "I love humans. Always finding patterns in things that aren't there." So I was reading the thread about Roger's solo album. I wasn't familiar with Roger's solo work so I fire up Google and find cover art for The Unblinking Eye, which seemed vaguely familiar. Then I remember that back on June 12, MM posted this pic on his Facebook page with no explanation. At the time I thought that was random. Now MM has a solo EP supposedly coming out this year. And after several years, Roger says his solo album is finally being released this November. Coincidence??? Or collaboration in the works??? :D |
Man from Zanzibar 17.07.2012 01:36 |
AdamMethos wrote:Man from Zanzibar wrote: Just one little advice for Marc: for the love of Angry God, don't you give your first solo CD title "Mr. Bad Guy". It WILL tank, make no mistake, lol :-PNo no no. Mr. Bad Guy doesn't suit a Christian rocker. So how about... Mr. Good Guy? :-P Well, the solo thing isn't Christian-themed, as far as I know. Of course I doubt Marc would go bananas and do something R. Kelly would do, huehuehue :D. I bet Martel would love the original title Freddie wanted to put on his solo album, he he. Oops, sorry, Marc-boy, there is "Made in Heaven" by Queen and it is not going anywhere. |
AdamMethos 17.07.2012 08:20 |
Yeah, I don't think it will be explicitly Christian. But I'm sure there won't be anything in it that contradicts Christian values either. |
Missreclusive 17.07.2012 14:36 |
AdamMethos wrote: Yeah, I don't think it will be explicitly Christian. But I'm sure there won't be anything in it that contradicts Christian values either.Interesting connection and train of thought with regard to the picture. I doubt that Roger is done with MM or QE. Is there anything written out there with regards to his thoughts about the AL collaboration? Seems to me it's all about Brian, even the setlist appears to be mostly about him. Off topic, the Illustrated lyrics book seems to be more about Brian and Roger. I could go into detail but wont, wondered if anyone else would notice it. I admit to being a fan of Queen for quite sometime but not having gone deeper than simply enjoying the music and mostly the "hits" until the past 3 years. |
AdamMethos 17.07.2012 20:15 |
WHOA!!!! Talk about speaking too soon. Marc's band Downhere is retiring as an active touring band!!! Roger, do you hear that? ;-) Post from their website: link Hello friends, It is with many memories and deep feelings that we relay to you the decision we have made over the course of the last year. January 1st 2013 will mark the end of our traveling ministry for the foreseeable future. It has become very clear to us that this chapter of our journey, initiated by God, is drawing to a close. While we mourn the end of this season we also celebrate over a decade of ministry. It has been hard work and our families have paid a big price. The friends, songs, experiences, and lives changed as a result of hearing the truth of God's love have sustained us through many years and miles. For those of you who know us well, you know that this is not a band break up. In fact, we are open to playing a select few shows or events in the future. After many years and miles spent together we have become a band of brothers who love each other dearly. There is not one single variable that has initiated this change; rather it would seem the same sovereign hand that has guided us together for this season is now leading us in different directions. We are grateful for the role you have played in our lives. Your encouragement and support over the years has carried us through thick and thin. We have always wanted to finish well. We believe that means finishing together, as a band... and that is what we are going to do. We are working on setting up a few wrap-up shows this fall - more information will be forthcoming as things get solidified. Sincerely, Jason, Marc, Glenn, & Jeremy |
GratefulFan 17.07.2012 21:01 |
Good spotting AM. Wouldn't have predicted that. They've crafted a lovely statement that their fans can feel good about, though the backstory may be a little more interesting. Before Marc went out with QE a handful of churches cancelled bookings because of perceived unchristian whatever. Who knows how these hardliners think. It would be fascinating to know if even more backed off as the tour unfolded. They have a pretty light schedule as it stands. |
Missreclusive 17.07.2012 21:10 |
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Missreclusive 17.07.2012 21:18 |
GratefulFan wrote: Good spotting AM. Wouldn't have predicted that. They've crafted a lovely statement that their fans can feel good about, though the backstory may be a little more interesting. Before Marc went out with QE a handful of churches cancelled bookings because of perceived unchristian whatever. Who knows how these hardliners think. It would be fascinating to know if even more backed off as the tour unfolded. They have a pretty light schedule as it stands.As QE progressed through the tour, I saw how MM changed and grew more and more into it. He appeared to be having a great time. Not sure how the QE tour helped him as a solo artist but I wouldn't think it hurt him. If I knew where to write, I'd do it to encourage him. |
AdamMethos 17.07.2012 21:40 |
GratefulFan wrote: Before Marc went out with QE a handful of churches cancelled bookings because of perceived unchristian whatever. Who knows how these hardliners think. It would be fascinating to know if even more backed off as the tour unfolded. They have a pretty light schedule as it stands.I can't remember where the exact post is, but a while back someone on Downhere's messageboard said that after Marc won QE, the band stopped booking new gigs until they found out what dates QE would be needing Marc for. Also one of the band members just had a new baby in the spring and wants to spend more time with his family. So the light schedule is probably a combination of those two things. |
pipijolk 17.07.2012 21:44 |
GratefulFan wrote: Good spotting AM. Wouldn't have predicted that. They've crafted a lovely statement that their fans can feel good about, though the backstory may be a little more interesting. Before Marc went out with QE a handful of churches cancelled bookings because of perceived unchristian whatever. Who knows how these hardliners think. It would be fascinating to know if even more backed off as the tour unfolded. They have a pretty light schedule as it stands. Yeah, he did comment on how some churches cancelled their shows because of Marc's stepping out and doing QE. He compared the reaction to Amy Grant recording secular music and alienating some people. The hard-core fundamentalists of, mainly, the Mid-West and South can be strict and intolerant, quite unlike the basic tenets of Christianity. But, alas, you can find hard-core stubborn fundamentalists in just about every corner of life's interests. Also, it had to be grueling to drive around thousands of miles in a Tour Van spanning a decade of touring. That is a grind on one's family life. Easy to do when you're in your twenties, not so much fun in your 30s. |
pipijolk 17.07.2012 21:47 |
Missreclusive wrote:GratefulFan wrote: Good spotting AM. Wouldn't have predicted that. They've crafted a lovely statement that their fans can feel good about, though the backstory may be a little more interesting. Before Marc went out with QE a handful of churches cancelled bookings because of perceived unchristian whatever. Who knows how these hardliners think. It would be fascinating to know if even more backed off as the tour unfolded. They have a pretty light schedule as it stands.As QE progressed through the tour, I saw how MM changed and grew more and more into it. He appeared to be having a great time. Not sure how the QE tour helped him as a solo artist but I wouldn't think it hurt him. If I knew where to write, I'd do it to encourage him. Marc has a twitter account and a Facebook page where you could drop a comment or two. |
AdamMethos 17.07.2012 22:32 |
From the first concert Downhere did after Marc won QE: link They talk about Marc's QE audition experience in the intro to STL. Looking back at it now, it looks like they were starting to get the sense that it was the beginning of the end. |
Missreclusive 17.07.2012 22:52 |
Sure sounds that way to me. I had missed this one, thx. |
Man from Zanzibar 17.07.2012 23:43 |
AdamMethos wrote: Yeah, I don't think it will be explicitly Christian. But I'm sure there won't be anything in it that contradicts Christian values either. Oh, totally. I mean, every person has its own philosophy and way of seeing things in life. If Marc's going to write personal and sincere lyrics and don't just try to please the current "mainstream" ways, good for him. |
AdamMethos 18.07.2012 22:09 |
Have you guys heard the Downhere song Breaking Me Down? I found this vid of the live version and it now tops my list for most Freddie-ish vocals in a Downhere song. :D link |
Man from Zanzibar 18.07.2012 23:17 |
AdamMethos wrote: Have you guys heard the Downhere song Breaking Me Down? I found this vid of the live version and it now tops my list for most Freddie-ish vocals in a Downhere song. :D link Oh my... |
Man from Zanzibar 18.07.2012 23:18 |
this comment should be deleted |
Man from Zanzibar 18.07.2012 23:19 |
fucking glitch, how to delete the post |
Missreclusive 18.07.2012 23:32 |
AdamMethos wrote: Have you guys heard the Downhere song Breaking Me Down? I found this vid of the live version and it now tops my list for most Freddie-ish vocals in a Downhere song. :D linkDitto...oh my. I really do love his voice and, who says he can't rock? |
AdamMethos 21.07.2012 22:43 |
Came across this old blog post from George Stroumboulopoulos, a Canadian TV host/interviewer/personality, about MM's STL audition video going viral. The post is dated Sept. 26, 2011 and the last paragraph reads: Although if this whole "Queen Extravanganza" thing breaks Martel's way - and you've got to think it will - Downhere might want to get ready for the impending "indefinite hiatus". link Whoa, he totally called it! Here's a radio interview MM did a couple days after the QE tour ended where he talks about the experience: link |
GratefulFan 22.07.2012 00:16 |
Canadians look for excuses to type and properly spell "George Stroumboulopoulos" just to impress each other and mark territory. The rest of it is probably made up. :P |
Missreclusive 22.07.2012 00:20 |
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AdamMethos 22.07.2012 01:04 |
@Missreclusive When you delete your post my reply looks like a non sequitur LOL but anyway...
Up In The Air... Lyrically cliche/forgettable. Musically, kind of catchy after a few listens. The YouTuber who commented "Marc just went all Ricky Martin on us haha" sums it up perfectly, I think. :D
I actually prefer Downhere's latest single Living The Dream:
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It sounds very Beatles-ish and the Beatles trumps Ricky Martin every time. ;-)
Marc also did an intro for Living The Dream. It was shot a few months after the STL audition and he still hadn't cleaned the room!!
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GratefulFan wrote: Canadians look for excuses to type and properly spell "George Stroumboulopoulos" just to impress each other and mark territory. The rest of it is probably made up. :PHahaha! I wanted to be lazy and just write "Strombo" but figured I should spell it out for the non-Canadians who never heard of him. ;-) |
Missreclusive 22.07.2012 01:43 |
@AM eeesh! I didn't intend to delete the entire post! I was revising it and I guess deleted the whole enchilada. sorry. Thx for ans me and I pretty much agree. Love his voice but not the song so much. |
john bodega 22.07.2012 01:43 |
*shrug* the sooner he's rescued from that bunch, the better. |
Missreclusive 22.07.2012 01:48 |
oh for petes sake, time to quit, stuttering. This will probably go in twice too. |
Another Roger (re) 22.07.2012 03:49 |
Downhere has announced that they are longer an active band like they used to be. It is practically over for them: link |
AdamMethos 27.07.2012 01:59 |
This article has a 22-minute audio interview with Jeff Scott Soto and Jennifer Espinoza. Interesting behind-the-scenes info on QE. Apparently, Roger had the idea for QE for a few years before they actually started auditions and JSS has been in on it since conception. And they've been approached by South American promoters to bring QE there. link |
brunogorski 27.07.2012 13:04 |
Holy mother of god, please, someone bring Queen Extravaganza to Brazil! |
Micrówave 27.07.2012 16:46 |
Don't worry, you're not missing much. It's a cover band. |
Man from Zanzibar 28.07.2012 07:20 |
Micrówave wrote: Don't worry, you're not missing much. It's a cover band.Of course you're not missing much, just live music. |
brunogorski 28.07.2012 22:05 |
Micrówave, it's a cover band but it's pretty cool. I'd love to watch them. =) |
Missreclusive 28.07.2012 22:15 |
Brunogorski, I hope they do another tour and you get to go! You will love it. Yes micro, a cover band but the best and worthwhile if you LOVE the way Queen used to sound. |
AdamMethos 31.07.2012 22:46 |
Found another quirky song from MM's band Downhere called Rockstars Need Money. Haha! If you liked their song Audience, Rockstars is in the same vein. :D link This is another vid of Rockstars. The sound's not as good but at the beginning MM does a crazy vocal run that sounds like he goes through his entire vocal range from high to low. Since I'm practically tone deaf, I'd love it if someone with a musical ear can take a listen and let us know what are the highest and lowest notes he hits: link |
Man from Zanzibar 02.08.2012 15:18 |
AdamMethos wrote: Found another quirky song from MM's band Downhere called Rockstars Need Money. Haha! If you liked their song Audience, Rockstars is in the same vein. :D link This is another vid of Rockstars. The sound's not as good but at the beginning MM does a crazy vocal run that sounds like he goes through his entire vocal range from high to low. Since I'm practically tone deaf, I'd love it if someone with a musical ear can take a listen and let us know what are the highest and lowest notes he hits: linkHis vocal improvisations with the audience, oh my... I think I, umm, know where he "stole" that from lol |
AdamMethos 11.08.2012 15:43 |
Haha. Well, MM has never denied that Freddie was an influence. It's just in more ways than we thought! :P This article in a local TN paper with Tyler Warren (the drummer) says he will continue touring with QE in early November. Of course, the article also says that the recent QE tour was "last year" so I don't know how accurate the November date is, but it does seem like almost a sure thing that QE will continue. link Found this interview with MM from 8 months ago where he says (at around 6:30) that there are only one or two of Queen's greatest hits that he wouldn't feel comfortable singing, and his main concern seems to be lyrics taking the Lord's name in vain. He doesn't say if sexual content is an issue, but since he doesn't sing backup in Bicycle Race (which has swearing) but does sing backup in Fat-Bottomed Girls, I think it's probably not an issue except maybe when it's explicit (Get Down Make Love or Body Language)... link |
Missreclusive 11.08.2012 17:03 |
Thanks for posting! I nearly knew that Roger wasn't going to pass up the QE golden opportunity and let it go. Now I wonder if they are taking it to other countries? |
Man from Zanzibar 12.08.2012 01:28 |
There's so much of Queen to sing, I think the repertoire is not gonna be a problem for Marc, overall. Especially since he's not the only one singing there. Just as the sound engineer of QE said, the Fall tour and hopefully some kind of 2013 tour possible, too, maybe even international. I know there's lot of interest from the South America and boy, let me assure you, Europe isn't all about Lambert, too. |
AdamMethos 14.08.2012 01:55 |
Yep, I didn't think the repertoire was going to be a problem. I was just curious about what song(s) would be verboten. I have to say, Bicycle Race wouldn't have been on my list, though in retrospect it makes sense. So... someone who went to the Downhere concert this past weekend asked them what the break up means. They're done with regular touring. They may do a concert here and there, or even a new album, if their schedules work out and they all want to do it. Otherwise, they are getting "regular" jobs and are going to be hobby musicians instead of professional musicians. I'm going to assume that last part doesn't include Marc and that maybe this means he will be doing QE full-time with solo stuff on the side (or vice versa)? He DID say in an interview that music is his only marketable skill haha. |
AdamMethos 15.08.2012 08:14 |
Another sign of more QE to come... Someone else who met Downhere this past weekend says that they didn't plan to announce the break up so soon but were forced into it in order to fit in a farewell mini-tour before the next QE tour. Come on, Roger, give us some more QE dates already! Haha. |
Missreclusive 15.08.2012 11:11 |
AM! Not sure where you gain the knowledge but am thankful for it :-) As you know nothing would make me happier than to see QE again even though I feel they will probably be touring elsewhere (not in the USA) |
AdamMethos 15.08.2012 17:59 |
No big secret. I just check out the Downhere message board after their concerts to see if anyone who went reports anything of interest. :D I think they'll do at least one more tour in North America before heading out internationally. Not that I know anything about organizing tours, but it seems like the few months between when the first tour ended in July and when the second tour starts in November wouldn't be enough time to set up an international tour. (And I don't think they would have started organizing an international tour before the results of the first tour were tallied.) |
Man from Zanzibar 20.08.2012 20:08 |
My money is on international tour dates in 2013, especially considering that Marc's not full-time in Downhere any longer. They'd probably lose Jeff in 2013 (give man a break, his solo stuff was on hold because of QE for long enough), but Marc, Yvan and Jennifer will carry on. Jenn is gonna be amazing female rocker, she's just in the beginning (no one's gonna stop her now, it's hopeless to even try) and Marc towards the end of a first tour proved he can handle rocker's vocals too, maybe with a tad bit more time for practice. |
waunakonor 20.08.2012 20:12 |
With an at least slightly reworked setlist, I would totally pay money to see them again if they came down here, and even see some more QueenZone types. |
AdamMethos 20.08.2012 21:29 |
Man from Zanzibar wrote: They'd probably lose Jeff in 2013 (give man a break, his solo stuff was on hold because of QE for long enough), but Marc, Yvan and Jennifer will carry on. Jenn is gonna be amazing female rocker, she's just in the beginning (no one's gonna stop her now, it's hopeless to even try) and Marc towards the end of a first tour proved he can handle rocker's vocals too, maybe with a tad bit more time for practice.This article has a GREAT two-part audio interview with Jeff and Jenn: link From the way Jeff speaks in the interview, he isn't going anywhere. QE is his dream job and he asked to be considered for QE back when Roger first got the idea a few years ago. I think that as long as QE doesn't do any extended tours (like 6 months or something), Jeff will continue to re-arrange his own stuff around QE dates. I think Yvan would be the first to go, if anyone has to leave, since he doesn't really add anything unique, vocally speaking. (Jeff is the rocker, Marc is the Freddie, Jenn is the girl, Yvan is...?) I'd like to see Marc do a harder rock song next time around too. I always thought he could handle rock vocals fine; he just needs more attitude to really sell it. |
Missreclusive 20.08.2012 23:38 |
AM, thanks for the link! Loved the interview with JSS and Jennifer. I too think Yvan didn't contribute much. He was the one with almost no energy on stage, his voice was just ok. Also, Marc's STL Calgary July 2nd is excellent and shows how much he can rock. Marc grew better and better as the tour progressed. His voice seemed to gain power as well as his stage presence/personality. lol, seems them Freddie shoes were gettin more and more comfy :-) |
AdamMethos 22.08.2012 01:42 |
Missreclusive wrote: I too think Yvan didn't contribute much. He was the one with almost no energy on stage, his voice was just ok. Also, Marc's STL Calgary July 2nd is excellent and shows how much he can rock. Marc grew better and better as the tour progressed. His voice seemed to gain power as well as his stage presence/personality. lol, seems them Freddie shoes were gettin more and more comfy :-)One nice thing about having four singers is how they staged the beginning of BoRhap like the Queen II album cover. I loved that! It won't work quite as well with just three. I dunno about Marc's voice gaining power as the tour progressed. He was belting it out good on some Downhere songs before QE. I think at the beginning of the tour he was more concerned with singing exactly like Freddie did on the albums, and at the end he was more comfortable with changing up the songs in parts to sing it the way he wanted to. But yeah, he was definitely feelin' the Freddie by the end of the tour haha. I like the LA STL too: link Here's another recent article on QE focusing on the vocalists: link Some interesting quotes: "Keyboardist/musical director Brandon Etheridge says that most of the rehearsal time was spent in front of a piano working on harmony vocal parts... 'I had the good fortune of having access to all the recorded vocal tracks without the instruments. During our month of rehearsals, I stayed up late every night transcribing every note. Some of our singers read musical notation well and others not at all. I taught the singers their parts by playing each part on the piano.' "That level of access and talent brings something really special to the show but it comes at a price. One of the first things Roger Taylor insisted on with the audio team is that there would be no harmonizers and no pitch correction hardware or software even included in the rig much less used... "When you talk about a project like this—basically an officially sanctioned tribute to one of the most influential and beloved bands in the history of rock—you may not be looking to fill big shoes or to replace anyone but expectations are going to be very high. So, any trepidation about how they would be received?... "Vocalist Marc Martel says it is all about owning it. 'Though it's true that the songs are the star of this show, if we let the songs take ownership of us instead of the other way around, I think that would be awkward for the audience. I believe an audience wants to feel like the performers are in control, no matter what they're performing. It's a bit of mental gymnastics, but I still try to sing Queen's songs as if they were mine. What makes that easier is that I love the music so much.'" |
Missreclusive 22.08.2012 10:39 |
Great! I love the mention of fans wanting MM to do the tour instead of AL. "By the time the tour started it had 6 million views and fans online were calling for Marc to do the upcoming dates with the actual members of Queen instead of Adam Lambert." I've been to many concerts but if you love Queen, QE can not be beat by anyone. If given the choice to see Roger and Brian or QE, I'd go see QE. Roger was correct when he stated that QE raised the bar. I wasn't under the impression that Brian was very involved..? Articles mention him yet in the beginning it was Roger. |
brENsKi 22.08.2012 11:23 |
Missreclusive wrote: I've been to many concerts but if you love Queen, QE can not be beat by anyone.except for the original queen lineup? |
Missreclusive 22.08.2012 11:39 |
ok ok, I suppose. ;-) One of my many regrets, never saw them live. |
AdamMethos 22.08.2012 12:52 |
Missreclusive wrote: I wasn't under the impression that Brian was very involved..? Articles mention him yet in the beginning it was Roger.From what I read/seen in interviews, Brian reviewed some of the video auditions when the contest was running, so he was probably aware of who the main contenders were. Not sure if Brian was actively involved in picking the winners or if he just gave his approval after the fact. Brian rehearsed with the band for the Idol appearance of course but I don't think he was with them for the main rehearsals in Toronto and Montreal -- the local articles I saw at the time only mentioned Roger. Brian seems to be a better (more articulate) spokesperson than Roger though. He did most of the talking about QE in the video interviews after Idol and on that Russian talk show. Maybe this is just another example of Brian sneaking in extra credit for himself? Haha. |
Man from Zanzibar 23.08.2012 13:51 |
Yvan is totally fine and has a great voice, I'm just biased towards Marc and Jenn in terms of the sound. I'm okay with current set of singers in QE. |
unrauv1 30.08.2012 13:37 |
This is how Marc Martel sounds at the second to last concert in July 2012. This is how TSMGO should sound!! Who said he didn't have power and range and doesn't shreik like AL. link |
brENsKi 30.08.2012 16:04 |
Missreclusive wrote: ok ok, I suppose. ;-) One of my many regrets, never saw them live.was lucky enough to see them 5 times between 79 and 86 b'ham nec 79 milton keynes 84 b'ham nec 84 wembley 86 and knebworth 86 only one i don't have a bootleg of is the b'ham 79 gig |
Missreclusive 30.08.2012 17:22 |
And yes, you are very lucky to have seen 5 Queen shows. I so wish I could have seen one! There was a couple from England sitting next to us at the QE concert. He said he had seen Queen live several times during the years you saw them. He was on his feet a lot during the QE concert, he thought the sound was awesome too. If they tour here again, come see them. |
Man from Zanzibar 30.08.2012 22:07 |
And here we go: link link I hope Marc's performance with Brian and Roger at the "Freddie for a Day" event will be recorded on video. Like HD 1080p professional video, you know. Also if the winter-fall tour or possible 2013 tour is confirmed, i think it's time for the QE production to think about official live DVD or video on iTunes. Fans from very remote places would appreciate something like that when the all things QE end eventually. Yes, it's not the real thing, and yes you can always watch many concert videos of the real thing and real Freddie even on youtube, let alone dvd box sets. But still. |
pipijolk 30.08.2012 22:37 |
I like how he worded the tweet, "I'll be performing with Roger Taylor & Brian May on Monday..." He didn't say I'll be performing with Queen, very tactful. Anyway, join the other thread on the main board, Man from Zanzibar, Adam Methos started a new topic about this event next week. Hope they perform at least a few songs. |
AdamMethos 31.08.2012 01:03 |
Downhere had a concert 90 minutes away from me tonight, so I took the opportunity to see them live for the first (and probably last) time. Spoke to Marc in the autograph line afterwards and he said QE will be touring again in mid-Nov to mid-Dec, and that they're currently booking venues and the website should be updated soon. Oh, in addition to piano and guitar, Marc also plays bass guitar! He and Downhere's bassist traded instruments (literally) for one song. Man from Z, I too hope Queen professionally films at least one QE show this time around! |
Man from Zanzibar 31.08.2012 02:39 |
AdamMethos wrote: Oh, in addition to piano and guitar, Marc also plays bass guitar! He and Downhere's bassist traded instruments (literally) for one song.Holy sharks, bass too? Oh, man... |
pipijolk 31.08.2012 10:51 |
Anyone post this info yet? The person running the QE fan page on facebook talked to Mark at the Downhere show the other night and he said the QE would be running from mid-Nov to mid-Dec, not sure what that means as far as JS. Soto as he is set to tour with TSO. https://www.facebook.com/queenextravaganza |
AdamMethos 31.08.2012 11:39 |
pipijolk wrote: The person running the QE fan page on facebookThat's me! (Unmasked!) I was one of a bunch of YouTube regulars following the QE contest. Since YouTube isn't conducive to continuing discussions, I created the FB page as more of a central place for YouTubers to gather. And it snowballed from there... |
AdamMethos 31.08.2012 17:25 |
Some video I shot of Somebody To Love at last night's Downhere concert -- in 1080p HD! link |
Missreclusive 31.08.2012 17:37 |
AdamMethos wrote: Some video I shot of Somebody To Love at last night's Downhere concert -- in 1080p HD! linkCant help it, am in awe of Marc. Thats probably the best STL performance of his yet imo. He's far more animated and relaxed. Of course, he has his Downhere band and fans there. I'm just so excited to see him perform again and hope QE travels to Texas. Btw, GREAT camera! yeow! |
Man from Zanzibar 31.08.2012 19:37 |
AdamMethos wrote: Some video I shot of Somebody To Love at last night's Downhere concert -- in 1080p HD! linkOh, that's what I call quality video. What is the camera, if I may ask? |
AdamMethos 01.09.2012 12:20 |
I used a Sony Handycam:
link
Missreclusive wrote: Cant help it, am in awe of Marc. Thats probably the best STL performance of his yet imo. He's far more animated and relaxed.What I liked in that performance (and other STL performances towards the end of the QE tour) is that Marc seemed to be doing his own take on the song and not any conscious imitation of Freddie. While there are some songs, e.g. Killer Queen, that they might want him to perform as close to Freddie as possible, I hope he gets to do his own take on more songs on the next QE tour. He just seems to bring a different level of passion to the songs when doing his own thing. And unlike some others, e.g. Adam Lambert, the song somehow still sounds "right" and faithful to the original despite him changing it up. It's like George Michael's STL -- quite different from Freddie, but still totally faithful to the spirit of the song. |
john bodega 01.09.2012 14:11 |
Finger's crossed that this doesn't wind up being a one-off. Kid deserves a tour with the real thing. He's bloody earned it. |
AdamMethos 01.09.2012 21:36 |
In case anyone is interested, here's a playlist of videos I shot from the Downhere concert: link And here's Marc on bass guitar! link |
Missreclusive 01.09.2012 21:39 |
AdamMethos wrote: In case anyone is interested, here's a playlist of videos I shot from the Downhere concert: link And here's Marc on bass guitar! linkWas just now watching your vids and thank you for posting them. |
AdamMethos 04.09.2012 01:37 |
QE news that's NOT about Marc Martel. (Shock!) If this site is correct, Jennifer Espinoza auditioned for X-Factor this year, but did not make the alleged list of finalists that they claim to have. "One really interesting auditioner who's not on this list is Jennifer Espinoza, an Alison Iraheta type. Maybe the fact that Jennifer performed on American Idol earlier this year as part of the Queen Extravaganza didn't help." link |
pipijolk 19.09.2012 09:14 |
"QEX. To be continued... " Twitter today from QueenExtravaganza account (Roger's) https://twitter.com/queenextrava |
Missreclusive 19.09.2012 09:27 |
Best news I've heard in a while! Thanks pipijolk for posting this one, I'm beyond happy about it! |
AdamMethos 19.09.2012 11:37 |
Yay! Not surprised but great to get the official word at last! Hope we don't have to wait much longer for real details... By the way, thought I posted this already, but it was Jessica Espinoza (Jennifer's sister) who audtioned for X-Factor. |
brunogorski 19.09.2012 17:54 |
Hell yeah!! Come to Brazil with QE. Please. God. =P |
AdamMethos 21.09.2012 12:00 |
Well, Yvan has announced that he will be doing some other project (don't have the details yet) at the time QE will be touring, so it looks like both he and Jeff have left QE. I kind of suspected that Yvan also would be leaving since Jeff was. Assuming Roger doesn't bring in new vocalists, I guess we will soon get a chance to see if Marc can do the harder rocking Queen songs! |
brunogorski 21.09.2012 14:22 |
Or Roger will sing them. OH WAIT- |
pipijolk 21.09.2012 15:01 |
AdamMethos wrote: Well, Yvan has announced that he will be doing some other project (don't have the details yet) at the time QE will be touring, so it looks like both he and Jeff have left QE. I kind of suspected that Yvan also would be leaving since Jeff was. Assuming Roger doesn't bring in new vocalists, I guess we will soon get a chance to see if Marc can do the harder rocking Queen songs! I suspect we will see new faces to at least fill in for the harmonies, or, if it is just Marc and perhaps Jen, then I would suspect a slightly smaller set list and perhaps a less rigorous schedule, i.e. no back-to-back-to-back-to-back nightly gigs. |
AdamMethos 21.09.2012 23:42 |
I'm leaning towards no new vocalists since the entire band can sing, something Roger couldn't be sure of until they really started playing together. QE's sound engineer said in an interview that during the tour, the entire band spent two hours a day practicing the vocal harmonies in addition to regular band rehearsals. Actually, it seems Roger chose many of the QE band members because of their similarities to Queen members. The Marc/Freddie similarity is obvious. Then there is Tyler (the drummer) who not only sings, but also plays guitar and bass guitar, just like Roger. Here's Tyler doing a cover of the Rush song Freewill where he sings and plays all of the parts: link Tristan (one of the guitarists) can also sing lead. Here's QE doing a cover of the Muse song Time Is Running Out during a soundcheck with Tristan on lead vocals: link QE could potentially put a few songs in the setlist that Freddie didn't sing, like Tenement Funster or Sleeping On The Sidewalk, and have Tyler or Tristan do lead vocals. |
eYe 22.09.2012 00:48 |
Wow! Both vids are amazing. Plz bring them to Germany, Roger! |
pipijolk 22.09.2012 12:14 |
Interesting tweet to @QueenExtrava "Just got tickets to the dinner/show in Montreal Jan. 26/13... need to update your site with the new dates! B. Jarvis" Not sure if this means the tour begins in 2013 or if they're having two quick runs in Nov/Dec and another in 2013 or if they're spacing apart the show dates instead of the tightly packed schedule in the spring. |
AdamMethos 22.09.2012 12:46 |
Weird! This venue in Quebec City (not Montreal) is already selling tickets before the tour is announced: link The article is in French but says QE will be playing 5 shows (!!!) at the Théâtre Capitole in Quebec City from January 22-27, 2013. Tickets go on sale to the public on Sept. 22 @ 9 a.m. The rest of the article is just the usual promo blub about Roger creating QE to celebrate Queen's music, etc. |
pipijolk 22.09.2012 12:51 |
Interesting idea, stay a while in the cities where you get a good crowd, it might make it easier for Brian and Roger to pop in once in a while. An easier road to travel when you can stay put for a week. ____ Also, might make it easier to set up a quality recording opportunity to just bring all the equipment to one place and take footage over several days shooting versus toting around the equipment from city to city. |
AdamMethos 22.09.2012 13:26 |
I'm all for multiple shows in a city since Toronto was also one of places that QE sold out, so hopefully we'll get multiple shows too. ;-) I wonder if this also means the new tour is going to be bigger -- bigger show, longer tour, maybe even international dates? I'm also wondering if the "fall" tour is now actually starting in January 2013, in which case Jeff and Yvan will still be part of QE since there's no conflict in dates anymore. Quebec City was the first stop on the summer tour. Edit to add: I love that idea that they're doing the multiple shows in order to do a professional recording! Even if that's not the reason, I do hope they record at least one show this time around, and put it out on DVD/Blu-Ray not just hoard it for the archives. |
pipijolk 22.09.2012 13:43 |
AdamMethos wrote: I'm all for multiple shows in a city since Toronto was also one of places that QE sold out, so hopefully we'll get multiple shows too. ;-) I wonder if this also means the new tour is going to be bigger -- bigger show, longer tour, maybe even international dates? I'm also wondering if the "fall" tour is now actually starting in January 2013, in which case Jeff and Yvan will still be part of QE since there's no conflict in dates anymore. Quebec City was the first stop on the summer tour. Edit to add: I love that idea that they're doing the multiple shows in order to do a professional recording! Even if that's not the reason, I do hope they record at least one show this time around, and put it out on DVD/Blu-Ray not just hoard it for the archives. Yeah, think about how much it makes sense. Just take the 1st upload of Somebody To Love, over 7 million views world-wide, how many of those viewers would probably think about buying a full blown concert DVD/BluRay of QE? Since there are limitations to touring the world, a DVD/BR would be a good option for those who can't see it live. And a lot of those views are from word of mouth, a little more publicity could help a lot. |
AdamMethos 22.09.2012 16:34 |
pipijolk wrote: Yeah, think about how much it makes sense. Just take the 1st upload of Somebody To Love, over 7 million views world-wide, how many of those viewers would probably think about buying a full blown concert DVD/BluRay of QE? Since there are limitations to touring the world, a DVD/BR would be a good option for those who can't see it live.And a lot of those views are from word of mouth, a little more publicity could help a lot.It almost makes too much sense for QPL. ;-) I mean, they filmed the Q+AL shows, which they could make a killing on, especially since they say there are currently no plans for more Q+AL concerts, making those shows a one-time event. But there are no plans to release Q+AL. Tickets for QE's Jan 22-27, 2013 shows in Quebec City can be purchased online now: link |
cjpew 22.09.2012 19:35 |
AdamMethos wrote: I'm also wondering if the "fall" tour is now actually starting in January 2013, in which case Jeff and Yvan will still be part of QE since there's no conflict in dates anymore. Quebec City was the first stop on the summer tour.Jeff is with TSO until Dec. 30, and then starting a European tour of his latest album (Damage Control - great stuff :)) in early April, so that doesn't leave him a lot of time for QE2 - although he is rather 'super-human', always doing something! Missed a radio interview he did today but it's repeating tomorrow so I'll try to catch it to see if he says anything about QE. |
pipijolk 22.09.2012 20:46 |
What do you make of the tweet where the guy mentioned he bought tickets for the Montreal dinner/show on the 26th of January? ".. got tickets to the dinner/show in Montreal Jan. 26/13... need to update your site with the new dates!" |
AdamMethos 22.09.2012 21:45 |
pipijolk wrote: What do you make of the tweet where the guy mentioned he bought tickets for the Montreal dinner/show on the 26th of January? ".. got tickets to the dinner/show in Montreal Jan. 26/13... need to update your site with the new dates!"Strange as it may sound, the guy mixed up Quebec City and Montreal! Maybe he's from out of town? The Théâtre Capitole where QE is playing is attached to a hotel and the hotel is offering a QE package consisting of: - One overnight stay (double occupancy) - A complete breakfast for two - 2 dinner concert tickets for The Queen Extravaganza… link (select the Hotel Package dropdown and you'll see the QE package) |
AdamMethos 23.09.2012 11:23 |
Yvan announced that he won't be returning to QE for the next tour: "Since a few new dates came out for Queen Extravaganza, some people are asking me if I'll be part of the band for the next leg of the tour. It won't be possible for me this time as I will be touring Asia with Notre-Dame-de-Paris at the same time. I wish all the best to Queen Ex. I'll miss you guys." Notre-Dame-de-Paris is a musical: link |
Missreclusive 23.09.2012 22:58 |
AdamM, you had mentioned this one, Jessica Espinosa and her audition with X-Factor, link I hope QE travels down this way. |
pipijolk 25.09.2012 20:38 |
I think Marc and Jen were great together doing Lap of the Gods and Don't Stop Me Now, especially LotG, they meshed well on that song. Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. |
unrauv1 02.10.2012 13:19 |
Check this video out, I guess it was a sound check. link |
unrauv1 02.10.2012 14:35 |
I live in Vancouver and some vids are now being posted of the concert, they had it nailed. link |
AdamMethos 15.10.2012 18:46 |
Dates are trickling out for the next QE tour: Jan 13, 2013 - Huntington, NY (presale on Oct 16 at 10 a.m.) Jan 16, 2013 - Hershey, PA (presale on Oct 17 at 10 a.m.) Jan 22-27, 2013 - Quebec City, QC, Canada Ticketmaster link for the U.S. shows: link |
Missreclusive 17.10.2012 18:58 |
I'm so disappointed. Appears they wont be traveling south...sigh |
inu-liger 18.10.2012 04:08 |
Missreclusive wrote: I'm so disappointed. Appears they wont be traveling south...sighI wouldn't give up hope just yet. They still haven't officially announced the full itinerary. We can consider these dates known so far to be 'leaks' :) |
waunakonor 18.10.2012 15:15 |
Will they use the same setlist or will they change it up a bit? As much as it absolutely rocked my world the first time around, I'd hesitate paying more money for basically the exact same thing. (PS, anybody have any idea what the longest thread ever on this site is?) |
Missreclusive 18.10.2012 18:58 |
waunakonor wrote: Will they use the same setlist or will they change it up a bit? As much as it absolutely rocked my world the first time around, I'd hesitate paying more money for basically the exact same thing. (PS, anybody have any idea what the longest thread ever on this site is?)I would pay to see the same concert...anytime! Hopefully they will change it up a bit, but if not, it was still brilliantly performed. |