QueenZone discussion #1310844

Michael Allred wrote: It will be interesting to see how it fares in Europe.

cmsdrums wrote: What's his sexual preference got to do with anything? In the UK acts like Erasure, Culture Club, Marc Almond, Bronski Beat all had no 1 albums I'm sure. Besides, Freddie was actually openly gay, but because he didn't use that to define his work or career, or bang on about it, people actually almost overlooked what was right in front of them and refused to believe it.

cmsdrums wrote: What's his sexual preference got to do with anything? In the UK acts like Erasure, Culture Club, Marc Almond, Bronski Beat all had no 1 albums I'm sure. Besides, Freddie was actually openly gay, but because he didn't use that to define his work or career, or bang on about it, people actually almost overlooked what was right in front of them and refused to believe it.

GratefulFan wrote: His flash in the pan status remains unresolved at the moment. 77,000 copies were sold, a figure about which Billboard noted: "Trespassing's" 77,000 start is the smallest sum at No. 1 on the chart since the tally dated Aug. 20, 2011, when Adele's "21" sold 76,000 in its 12th nonconsecutive week atop the list. "Trespassing" has the smallest sales week for a No. 1 debut since Amos Lee's "Mission Bell" started in the penthouse with 40,000 on the Feb. 12, 2011 chart. In other words, he's extraordinarily lucky he's running with a weak pack at the moment. But more importantly, who were these 77,000 copies sold to? There was and is a relentless campaign by the 'Glamberts' to manipulate his chart positions for the album and singles through mass, coordinated, multiple purchases, gifting and donating of CDs. Highly organized on all social media and on a dedicated website called adamlambertstorm.com Here's just a little of their manifesto: GOAL Week 1 - #1 At Billboard HOT 100! Pull up a chair, cause we're gonna be at #1 for awhile! IMPORTANT TO NOTE Gifting downloads to Charities is not an Option. When the album is released we can donate hard copies to charities from Amazon! WHY Until the "casual fan" downloads begin, and radio play kicks in, it's the Hard Core Fan Base that needs to drive the sales to get BTIKM to #1 at Billboard! Then the buzz and promo will begin to drive the sales! HOW Open an iTunes Account - You may have more than one iTunes account per computer. Each account needs a different email address. You may use the same credit card. Definition of Sale? Sale = Any Download That Is Charged To Your Credit Card or Pay Pal. In the USA, to count as a sale, you can only download BTIKM once per iTune account. If you try to download again, you will receive a message that you have already downloaded that song. They are happy to download that song for you again for Free, but guess what? Free does not = sale!!! So, what to do? You want to download songs and iTunes won't let you! Dang! Gifting! Yes, now you start Gifting to folks who.... * Have an iTunes account in the same country you live in. * Are aware that they are receiving a download from you, and will download the Gift of BTIKM within a day or two. How many times can you Gift? As many times as possible, to as many people as possible....Consult your bank account and budget! To Gift, go to iTunes and find BTIKM. Right next to "Buy" is a downward arrow. This is a drop-down menu. Pull the menu down and click on Gift. Follow iTunes directions from there. If you can't afford to purchase a download of BTIKM, there are many who are more than happy to Gift you a copy. You will need to have an email address and an iTunes account. You can contact us 2 ways: Method #1 - Follow @adamstormhits on Twitter. As soon as we follow you back, DM us with your request. Please give us your first name and email address. Confirm that you have an iTunes account, and that you will redeem the Gift asap. When the download is complete, please let us know! That's it! Method #2 - Join Adam Storm ~ Trespassing link Look at the Administrators Box on the right. Private Message either Oshi or Barbls if you live in the USA. Give us your first name and email address and confirm that you have an iTunes account, and that you will redeem the Gift asap. When the download is complete, please let us know. NOTE: If you are Canadian, debbielynn is the go-to-gal for Gifting! You may want to have Gifting partners from friends in the real world or from Twitter. Gifting Buddies! Multiple similar threads on the official boards and elsewhere around the internet. This is a bunch of well meaning but obsessed fans trying to run the music business from their couches. As you read up above they truly believe that until the rest of the world sees the light on Adam they have to personally hold the torch and make him number one. Whatever it takes and however it can be done. 5, 10, 20 even 50 copies of his CD for some. It's completely, utterly bizarre. Obsession meets middle age buying power. Nobody with a shred of honesty should be in here bragging on this completely manufactured "accomplishment".

e-man wrote: what has sexual preference to do with anything? anywho - 77 000? I guess the timing of release has alot to do with it then. didn't Van Halen's new album sell 200 000 and got to #2?

For an openly gay artist to debut at #1 is certainly something to take note of.

Micrówave wrote:

For an openly gay artist to debut at #1 is certainly something to take note of.

Maybe, if you're gay.For the rest of us who could really care less what you do with your privates, it really doesn't matter too much.  In rare circumstances, I guess it could mean something.  I'm sure NBA star Rudy Gay is happy to get credit for all those jersey sales even though he's really not that good. The first Black artist... ok.  The first woman... ok.  These are cultural events of note.  The first gay artist?  Um... not so much.

cmsdrums wrote: I'm with Microwave - without wanting to get into an argument, or start with all the 'some of my best friends are gay' lines, I just can't believe there are straight people who would hear a track(s) and like it, but then find out the artist was gay and then state that they didn't like it or not buy it based on that. Sadly however I have experienced the other way around, where a lot of gay people have raved about an artist and bought all their material, seen them live etc...even though they don't actually like their music, simply because they have been adopted as a stereotypical 'gay icon' (eg Cher, Kylie, etc etc)

someonewholikesadam wrote:
Posted: 28 May 12, 16:24
ffs ^^^^^
"you're talkign about small parts of america.....stop trying to imply the whole country is homophobic....that's like saying they're all morbidly obese, eat nothing but pancakes and drive pickups
you seem to overlook that in 50% of the last 25 years elections you've elected democrats - and even one of the republican presidents didn't actually win...america is much more liberated than you'd have us believe...stop bemoaning what's wrong with your country and celebrate the advances you've made and the pioneering steps you have taken to lead the world"
This person is just wrong. I was responding to the post. To satisfy your curiosity, I came to QZ to see what horrible things Queen fans were saying about Adam. Kind of like a bad car wreck. Horrified but can't look away.

Michael Allred wrote: Ignorance is bliss I suppose. For you to boil down being gay to "what you do with your privates" shows you to be the complete idiot I always thought you were.

Microwave wrote: Maybe, if you're gay.For the rest of us who could really care less what you do with your privates

Michael Allred wrote: and what precisely is wrong with gay people supporting other gay artists? Why is that "sad"?

Micrówave wrote: Complete idiot nailed it.  It only matters to gay people... like you.  And again, I could care less what you do with your privates.Ellen was funny, too.  But then she had to bring her privates into it.  Now she's really not that funny anymore and her audience is afternoon housewives and you, Michael Allred.  She changed her agenda from "I'm gonna write some funny shit" to "I'm going to be gay and proud of it".  Which means if Adam Lambert doesn't evolve and continue to put out the kind of music he does, it won't last very long and some other gay artist will parade his lover around and on and on and on....  we just won't be listening to it twenty years later.

Micrówave wrote: Actually, it was pretty funny. And her standup routines were too. After the lesbo episode, though, things changed. Even GratefulFan will back me up on that!But I think the real problem with this thread is the homosexual agenda. All you homos seem to have one. And you wantto be culturally significant... for being gay. WTF?!?!? There's nothing significant about making a sexual choice. Guys have been banging other guys for thousands of years. Why do you all of the sudden need healthcare, equal rights, and now significance for making a #1 single on a music chart?You don't see me marching because I want my girlfriend to be covered by my HMO. She has a job... I have a job. Both have insurance. And we both paid for our own education.  Pretty simple concept.Plus I don't believe there have been any GAYS ONLY bathrooms or drinking fountains. Stop trying to elevate yourselves to the "oppressed" category... you're not even close.

someonewholikesadam wrote: But gays have been murdered just for being gay, you know, like KKK style? You're right. Oppressed is too mild a word. I love all the people who say these type of thngs about gays. I'd love to hear them change their tune if they found out their son or daughter were gay.

Michael Allred wrote: "all you homos" is all I needed to hear from your fucked up, small minded, insignificant self. you are beyond clueless, beyond hopeless. you will never contribute anything worthwhile to this planet, to mankind or the universe in general. I would say I pity you but I don't.

Micrówave wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: "all you homos" is all I needed to hear from your fucked up, small minded, insignificant self. you are beyond clueless, beyond hopeless. you will never contribute anything worthwhile to this planet, to mankind or the universe in general. I would say I pity you but I don't.

Homo