| Stelios 20.05.2012 04:57 |
I heard a rumor that this song or basic ideas go back to the Hot Space era but it just didn't made it to the album. Is there any substance to this or just crap? |
| john bodega 20.05.2012 06:00 |
No. It's a misinterpretation by people who were too stupid to read the liner notes from GH3 properly. |
| inu-liger 20.05.2012 06:41 |
Zebonka12 wrote: No. It's a misinterpretation by people who were too stupid to read the liner notes from GH3 properly. Wasn't it mostly misinterpreted by people whose first language wasn't English? |
| thomasquinn 32989 20.05.2012 09:31 |
Does it matter? It was misinterpreted, and fools who don't bother to check their sources spread the misinformation further. Debunked. |
| inu-liger 20.05.2012 15:13 |
I was asking a legitimate question, no need to be so dismissive and a lil' rude there Thomas. I'm well aware the misinformation was widespread over time, however my question was related more to the origin OF the misinformation. |
| Gregsynth 20.05.2012 16:48 |
On the booklet for "The Platinum Collection," the linear notes talk about You Don't Fool Me sounding like a Hot Space-era track! |
| Sebastian 20.05.2012 16:57 |
The origin, I think, comes from GHIII, where the liner notes say that it 'harks back to' that era. So, according to that logic, since 'Seaside Rendezvous' harks back to the 1920's, that's conclusive proof that Freddie wrote the song two and a half decades before he was born. |
| andres_clip 20.05.2012 17:08 |
good one sebastian:-) |
| matt z 20.05.2012 17:16 |
Damn. Blunt queenzone snobbism. You gotta realise this is GOING to happen for newbies on here; its testament to endurance of Queen's music. (And hopefully that lasts in spite of bad collaborations) Age gracefully and help the young ones out without backlash. I read somewhere that the track surfaced from engineer David Richards' attempt to piece scraps together; dunno anything else beyond that. I can only assume there was a song of sorts, because it has rhythm and something of a story to tell. How the band missed it, I dunno. I know a lot of people hate it due to that fact and also because it's repetitive. I happen to freakin love it. Especially love the solo. The song is great considering its creation |
| GT 20.05.2012 22:28 |
You Don't Fool Me was always a real song and not scraps put together. The lyrics were written by Freddie and they are reproduced in the new Complete Lyrics book. |
| Pim Derks 20.05.2012 22:51 |
Awesome, can't wait for the Lyrics book! |
| inu-liger 21.05.2012 02:15 |
GT wrote: You Don't Fool Me was always a real song and not scraps put together. The lyrics were written by Freddie and they are reproduced in the new Complete Lyrics book. Great, so that's two myths or mistruths now debunked in this book alone...which song had "Wooly Hat" as a working title, and You Don't Fool Me being an actual proper song from the get-go rather than just random scrap tidbits |
| matt z 21.05.2012 02:45 |
Ah nice. So what's the real behind Andy Gibb + Play The Game and Rod Stewart in the early 80's "Let Me Live"? Since I doubt I'll get the book (sorry-money's tight this year. Got a vacation planned and the re-releases didn't provide anything new to compel me) |
| Stelios 21.05.2012 06:19 |
Could it be that "Yup bup ba ba ba ba da da da dah!" line be actually unfinished lyrics? However it sounds splendid! |
| thomasquinn 32989 21.05.2012 07:06 |
inu-liger wrote: I was asking a legitimate question, no need to be so dismissive and a lil' rude there Thomas. I'm well aware the misinformation was widespread over time, however my question was related more to the origin OF the misinformation.If you're going to lecture me about being rude, you might perhaps not have phrased your original remark like a jab to non-English speakers. Has that crossed your mind? |
| Sebastian 21.05.2012 07:14 |
Both stories (Rod Stewart and Andy Gibb) were confirmed by Fan Club magazines at the time they happened. TBF, it hasn't been officially confirmed that Andy Gibb sang on PTG - what the newsflash stated was that Freddie had invited him to sing with them (i.e. Freddie, Brian and Roger) on one of his (Freddie's) songs and had been pleasantly impressed by how good his voice was. The song in question was in 1980, so it could be Play the Game, Don't Try Suicide or one that never made it to the album. As for Rod, it was confirmed in a 1983 issue of the mag (actually Rod was one of the several famous guests on that session) and then by Brian on a letter to the Fan Club in 1996. |
| john bodega 21.05.2012 08:46 |
"Wasn't it mostly misinterpreted by people whose first language wasn't English?" That's what I said. |
| matt z 21.05.2012 13:37 |
Thank you, Sebastian. Not the "uber-fan" I was in high school, that story eluded me. FTR: misinterpetation considered; You Don't Fool Me is much better rhythmically than the wanna-be disco of Hot Space... I think they were just plugging the album again to sell copies to newbies. (It DID contain Under Pressure after all, for purists...and yeah, of course it was recorded well before the album release) |
| inu-liger 21.05.2012 14:54 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:inu-liger wrote: I was asking a legitimate question, no need to be so dismissive and a lil' rude there Thomas. I'm well aware the misinformation was widespread over time, however my question was related more to the origin OF the misinformation.If you're going to lecture me about being rude, you might perhaps not have phrased your original remark like a jab to non-English speakers. Has that crossed your mind? Zeb's response was much ruder than mine to begin with, so maybe you should learn to prioritize your criticism Tom |
| Thistle 21.05.2012 17:37 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:I don't think his original question came across like a jab at non-English speakers, to be honest. In fairness to Inu, it does look like a legit question and, as it happens, his theory regarding the origin of the misunderstanding turned out to be the correct one. Surprisingly, that's the first time I've ever heard about this, so it has turned out to be a useful bit of info :)inu-liger wrote: I was asking a legitimate question, no need to be so dismissive and a lil' rude there Thomas. I'm well aware the misinformation was widespread over time, however my question was related more to the origin OF the misinformation.If you're going to lecture me about being rude, you might perhaps not have phrased your original remark like a jab to non-English speakers. Has that crossed your mind? |
| Sebastian 22.05.2012 02:49 |
To be fair, a lot of people can't even speak their own language (be it English, Korean, Swahili or whatever). Think about how many people misunderstood Freddie's quote about 'recreating a 160- to 200-piece choir effect' on Bo Rhap and thought he meant the song actually had 180 overdubs. |
| inu-liger 22.05.2012 03:11 |
Sebastian wrote: To be fair, a lot of people can't even speak their own language (be it English, Korean, Swahili or whatever). Think about how many people misunderstood Freddie's quote about 'recreating a 160- to 200-piece choir effect' on Bo Rhap and thought he meant the song actually had 180 overdubs. Precisely! And given that it's well known the song took weeks to record, that also helped fuel the wrong belief that there were over 180 overdubs on the record! |