Hangman_96 06.05.2012 08:55 |
Now that we all know what we might get this year, let's now discuss what EXACTLY we might get. It's been said there could be three live box sets: the first one regards the early years, the second one regards the mid years, and the third one regards the late years. I would like to hear your opinions on each of the box sets. What will they consist of? I'll start. 1: Rainbow 1974, Tokyo 1975, Hammersmith Odeon 1975, Hyde Park 1976, Earls Court 1977 (both nights). 2: 1979-82 concerts, i.e. Paris 1979 (three nights), Tokyo 1979, Hammersmith Odeon 1979, Buenos Aires or Sao Paulo 1981, Montreal 1981, Milton Keynes 1982. We might also get some unseen stuff from 1978 and 1980. 3: Rio 1985 (both nights), Tokyo 1985, Live Aid 1985, Wembley 1986 (it would be silly to release it, though), Budapest 1986, Knebworth 1986 (bits). We might also get something from 1984 and more concerts from 1986. Your thoughts, please? |
scollins 06.05.2012 09:00 |
that would be great but ive got a feeling that there is as much chance a freddie making an appearance at hammersmith lol |
Benn 06.05.2012 09:22 |
....or not, because they won't sanction it. |
rocknrolllover 06.05.2012 09:34 |
I think Milton keynes in box set no need us |
rocknrolllover 06.05.2012 09:44 |
well I want: Rainbow both complete nights with bonus Rainbow from 30 march 1974, Hammersmith Odeon 1975, Japan 1975, Hyde Park 1976, Earls Court 1977 or both nights or one nights with combo CD live,Houston 1977, Olympiahalle, Munich 1978 three songs/ Hammersmith Odeon 1979, Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 1979,Ahoy, Rotterdam 1979, Paris 1979 three nights if possible |
Hangman_96 06.05.2012 09:45 |
rocknrolllover wrote: well I want: Rainbow both complete nights with bonus Rainbow from 30 march 1974, Hammersmith Odeon 1975, Japan 1975, Hyde Park 1976, Earls Court 1977 or both nights or one nights with combo CD live,Houston 1977, Olympiahalle, Munich 1978 three songs/ Hammersmith Odeon 1979, Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 1979,Ahoy, Rotterdam 1979, Paris 1979 three nights if possibleAh, I missed Houston 1977. That would be great. |
Jazz 78 06.05.2012 11:21 |
Houston would be great but only if footage from Bob Harris' camera crew could be included. Soundcheck and alternate angles as well as all backstage footage. I have a feeling we've only seen a small amount of what he has. |
Kevinrm15 06.05.2012 11:49 |
I have a feeling the first box set will cover all of what was shown at Stormtroopers last year. So Rainbow first night, Hammersmith, Hyde Park, Earls Court first night and Houston. As well as a bonus DVD with Now I'm Here from Top of the Pops and Shepperton rehearsal footage from 1977. For the second box: This era will cover 78-81. So I would hope to see maybe AT LEAST one complete Paris show. Maybe a complete Tokyo show too, and Hammersmith. I also think Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo would be great. They'll probably throw in the Montreal movie since it's not under the new label yet. Third box: Milton Keynes since it's not under new lable. Maybe Tokyo 82. I could see maybe one Rio night in full. As well as Tokyo 85 and Live Aid (again not under new label). I don't think they'll include Wembley since both nights were released last year. So we'll probably see Budapest and whatever there is of Knebworth from the Magic tour. |
thefallenqueen 06.05.2012 11:49 |
what about an wembley 86 re-re-re-re-release |
AlexRocks 06.05.2012 11:53 |
I think that there should be concerts done as Queen + where they perform with a guest or guests and then include whatever concert from the past. It would be such a great opportunity. |
Holly2003 06.05.2012 12:10 |
Here we go again lol |
philip storey 06.05.2012 12:45 |
Er who said it could be three live box sets ? |
Kevinrm15 06.05.2012 13:10 |
Greg Brooks and Gary Taylor. But there is a chance that it might be one big one covering all the years. |
mooghead 06.05.2012 13:34 |
"Er who said it could be three live box sets ? " Lostman has asked this same question a million times... |
Doga 06.05.2012 13:42 |
Just dream, of course, but if i could get one recorded venue of every tour i love to have in a proper live release this: (video or audio, i prefer both, but in some cases video don't exist) Rainbow 74 (both nights) Tokyo 75 (best Queen gig... ever?) Hyde Park 76 (first massive gig) Earls Court 77 (both nights, very different gigs) Wembley 78 (three nights) Hammersmith 79 (best gig of the tour?) Montreal 81 (musically one of the best gigs ever) Milton Kaynes 82 (very strong gig) Rock in Rio 85 (both nights) Budapest 86 (legendary gig, and a good one) |
Hangman_96 06.05.2012 13:46 |
mooghead wrote: "Er who said it could be three live box sets ? " Lostman has asked this same question a million times...You don't even have a clue of what's going on here. Don't post a senseless post if you can't add anything useful. I'm fed up of you polluting my rarely appearing threads. You've posted 1410 posts now, and all of them have been nothing short than trolling. So I suggest you to go fuck yourself and get a life. Good luck. |
MadTheSwine73 06.05.2012 16:05 |
For three separate box sets, I'll think they'll do: 1. Rainbow (first or second, I don't know), Hammersmith '75, Hyde Park, Earl's Court (first night. After all, they do tend to give us things we already have) and Houston '77. 2. Paris '79 (one of the three nights, hopefully night three), Hammersmith '79, South American dates, Japan, Montreal '81 and Milton Keynes. 3. Rio (one night in full), Live Aid, Japan, Budapest, anything from Knebworth. Lots of bonus footage, e.g. Rehearsals, TOTP, alternate angles, Knebworth audio, Montreal audio from both nights. For one big set, I think it'll be: Rainbow (one night), Hammersmith (both 75 and 79), Hyde Park, Earl's Court OR Houston, Paris (one night), Montreal, Milton Keynes, Rio, Live Aid, & Budapest. |
Kevinrm15 06.05.2012 16:23 |
Not bad MadTheSwine. Though for the bonus I would probably take out the CDs, or maybe just add Hammersmith 75 on CD as a bonus. Maybe Knebworth audio. But Montreal could be a tad bit on the wish side. |
MERQRY 06.05.2012 19:18 |
They promised much all this years... and we only have Wembley 86... But being positive if this time they want to relase something i think they could release: Early Years: 74- 76 - Rainbow 74 November - Bonus: Rainbow 74 March - Japan 75 (but i don't think so since they release it -aparently ""complete""- on TATOOL japanese dvd) - Hammersmith 75 (maybe no in the box set but on a dvd for christsmas) - Hyde Park 76 Mid Years: 77-81 -Earls Court 77 (fisrt night or a mix of both) -Houston 77 -I wish Munich 79 or Paris 79 -Hammstmith 79 -Buenos Aires 81 Late Years 82-86 -Viena 82 -Rio 85 -Budapest 86 - Knebworth 86 |
MadTheSwine73 06.05.2012 20:35 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: But Montreal could be a tad bit on the wish side. I know, it's the one thing I'd really want them to release more than any other live concert. Too bad they don't have the video. |
MERQRY 06.05.2012 21:04 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote: South American datesWhy "South American dates"?? South America isn't a country but part of a continent... i think the Sao pablo gig hasn't a good video quality, even official it looks like a vhs... Argentina has a little more video/audio quality (maybe they have more footage since they wanted to do a movie in these days) |
Kevinrm15 06.05.2012 21:17 |
So you're saying that Queen filmed Buenos Aires hoping to make a concert movie like Led Zeppelin's The Song Remains the Same or The Stones' Let's Spend the Night Together? |
MERQRY 06.05.2012 22:52 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: So you're saying that Queen filmed Buenos Aires hoping to make a concert movie like Led Zeppelin's The Song Remains the Same or The Stones' Let's Spend the Night Together?Aparently not only Buenos aires but all the tour (included japan,sao pablo,etc) my source is an Argentinean Magazine (revista Pelo) but Bob put this translate (made by Silken) on his web: "During every show, the making of the film 'Queen on tourne' continued, for which eight cameras were used. The film will be completed with images from the San Pablo and Rio concerts, in Brazil. Of course, there will also be images from the American and Japanese tours." Bob words about it: "Not only is the possibility of more 1980/81 footage worth noting, but it also reveals that the huge concert scheduled to be played in Rio (on March 19) hadn't yet been canceled by the second week of March." |
mooghead 07.05.2012 03:19 |
Lostman wrote:Brilliant and articulate. Why dont you try and think of another way to ask 'what live shows do you wish Queen would release' again.mooghead wrote: "Er who said it could be three live box sets ? " Lostman has asked this same question a million times...You don't even have a clue of what's going on here. Don't post a senseless post if you can't add anything useful. I'm fed up of you polluting my rarely appearing threads. You've posted 1410 posts now, and all of them have been nothing short than trolling. So I suggest you to go fuck yourself and get a life. Good luck. |
Hangman_96 07.05.2012 06:52 |
mooghead wrote:Because it's none of your damn business, darling.Lostman wrote:Brilliant and articulate. Why dont you try and think of another way to ask 'what live shows do you wish Queen would release' again.mooghead wrote: "Er who said it could be three live box sets ? " Lostman has asked this same question a million times...You don't even have a clue of what's going on here. Don't post a senseless post if you can't add anything useful. I'm fed up of you polluting my rarely appearing threads. You've posted 1410 posts now, and all of them have been nothing short than trolling. So I suggest you to go fuck yourself and get a life. Good luck. |
thomasquinn 32989 07.05.2012 09:09 |
The problem with Hammersmith '79 is that only a stereo mixdown exists of the audio. The mastertapes have gone missing. I do understand that QP has complete video (on film) in very satisfactory quality. |
cmsdrums 07.05.2012 09:32 |
I don't see that as a problem as such. Yes, going cack to the multi tracks like Montreal would be great, but I'd rather have a stereo (or even mono) mix of Hammersmith 79 than nothing at all. Trouble is, Brian seems to think that concerts can't be released unless they are in sparkling, modern treated audio, regardless I'd great acts like The Beatles, Zep, The Who, Genesis etc all releasing classic archive material in whatever format they have available to them rather than hoard it. I'd understand the reluctance to release archive material if they were an ongoing act recording and releasing new material, but all we've had is one album with a guest vocalist in 20 years, do that argument doesn't stand (especially when they keep releasing 'archive' hits packages over and over again). |
Benn 07.05.2012 09:37 |
>that argument doesn't stand (especially when they keep releasing 'archive' hits packagesover and over again). Nothing involving Brian makes any sense. Note his comment about Freddie being financially unrewarded from the Mr. Bad Guy album; that said a lot about Brian's motivation - I'd imagine it was the LAST thing on Freddie's mind. |
Sam99 07.05.2012 10:56 |
Could someone please show me the link to where Greg Brooks and Gary Taylor mention live box sets? |
Kevinrm15 07.05.2012 11:15 |
Look in the General Discussion under the topic "Queen Convention". |
Gaabiizz 07.05.2012 12:07 |
They promised much all this years... and we only have Wembley 86... But being positive if this time they want to relase something i think they could release: Early Years: 74- 76 - Rainbow 74 November and March - Japan 75 (but i don't think so since they release it -aparently ""complete""- on TATOOL japanese dvd) - Hammersmith 75 (maybe no in the box set buton advd for christsmas) - Hyde Park 76 Mid Years: 77-81 - Earls Court 77 (fisrt night or a mix of both) - Houston 77 - Paris (Three nights) - Hammstmith 79 - Buenos Aires 81 Late Years 82-86 - Montreal 81 (Two nights) - Japan 82 - Frankfurt 82? - Vienna 82 - Sydney 85 - Japan 85 - Rio 85 (Two nights) - Budapest - Cologne? - Mannheim - Manchester - Newcastle - Slane Castle - Knebworth Park |
pittrek 07.05.2012 12:42 |
What would make a great live release ? 1974 Rainbow - all 3 shows were filmed (the first one probably not in its entirety), they have also some backstage footage which would be a great bonus 1975 Budokan - the latest release still misses the "intro" Hammersmith Odeon - I ONLY want it because they promised it 4 years ago 1976 Hyde Park - great gig, also a lot of backstage footage 1977 Earls Court - 2 complete concerts, great shows, great audio, but crappy camera angles Houston - this would be a perfect release. They have everything - 2 camera crews, backstage footage, interviews, Queen exploring the city, in the hotel ... 1978 nothing interesting, only the 2 German TV clips (Munich and Berlin) 1979 Brussels - the complete concert, interviews, building the stage ... Rotterdam - just the first 2 songs, but soundcheck, interview ... Munich - soundcheck, stage building, interviews, part of the concert Madrid - the TV report includes interesting but short part of the concert and interviews Paris - this could be great. All 3 shows were filmed and they're seriously great Tokyo - would be great to have, even when (or because ?) Freddie's in terrible shape Hammersmith odeon - my favourite concert of all times |
mooghead 07.05.2012 12:44 |
"i think they could release" Of course they could, but they are not going to... this is just another generic 'what might Queen have that we want' thread that has been happening for 20 odd years now. Its boring as hell. Has anyone got anything new to talk about? |
Bad Seed 07.05.2012 13:09 |
cmsdrums wrote: Trouble is, Brian seems to think that concerts can't be released unless they are in sparkling, modern treated audio, regardless I'd great acts like The Beatles, Zep, The Who, Genesis etc all releasing classic archive material in whatever format they have available to them rather than hoard it.Trouble is, Brian is gonna find it a lot harder to fix that goof on the Save Me solo. I bet things like that are a major sticking point with these shows without a multitrack. |
MadTheSwine73 07.05.2012 13:11 |
MERQRY wrote:MadTheSwine73 wrote: South American datesWhy "South American dates"?? South America isn't a country but part of a continent... i think the Sao pablo gig hasn't a good video quality, even official it looks like a vhs... Argentina has a little more video/audio quality (maybe they have more footage since they wanted to do a movie in these days) Sorry if I offended you, I'm not really an expert when it comes to the Game Tour. I don't know which dates in the CONTINENT OF SOUTH AMERICA (yes, I know it's not a country, I passed grade 7 Geography) were filmed. That is why I put "South American dates." I could have just as well put "North American dates" or "European dates" there, but I knew which ones were filmed. Once again, I'm sorry if I offended you. |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 07.05.2012 13:15 |
pittrek wrote: What would make a great live release ? 1974 Rainbow - all 3 shows were filmed (the first one probably not in its entirety), they have also some backstage footage which would be a great bonus 1975 Budokan - the latest release still misses the "intro" Hammersmith Odeon - I ONLY want it because they promised it 4 years ago 1976 Hyde Park - great gig, also a lot of backstage footage 1977 Earls Court - 2 complete concerts, great shows, great audio, but crappy camera angles Houston - this would be a perfect release. They have everything - 2 camera crews, backstage footage, interviews, Queen exploring the city, in the hotel ... 1978 nothing interesting, only the 2 German TV clips (Munich and Berlin) 1979 Brussels - the complete concert, interviews, building the stage ... Rotterdam - just the first 2 songs, but soundcheck, interview ... Munich - soundcheck, stage building, interviews, part of the concert Madrid - the TV report includes interesting but short part of the concert and interviews Paris - this could be great. All 3 shows were filmed and they're seriously great Tokyo - would be great to have, even when (or because ?) Freddie's in terrible shape Hammersmith odeon - my favourite concert of all timesPittrek ; rotterdam has more footage first we got the fast wwry in 1979 in the jewels docu we got the bicycle race snd iilwm car... Though very grainy. I think paris and munich would be a excellent alternative |
philip storey 07.05.2012 13:21 |
We could talk about the upcoming shows in July ? No ? Okay then .........! |
pittrek 07.05.2012 13:31 |
philip storey wrote: We could talk about the upcoming shows in July ? No ? Okay then .........!What shows ? :-) |
mooghead 07.05.2012 13:47 |
philip storey wrote: We could talk about the upcoming shows in July ? No ? Okay then .........!Anyone got any new Queen stuff to talk about? |
Barry Durex 07.05.2012 14:02 |
The Moog can give it, but he sure can't take it. |
Hangman_96 07.05.2012 15:31 |
I forgot to add Tokyo 1982. This show would complete a great box set. |
MERQRY 07.05.2012 22:09 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote:Please, don't worry you haven't onffended me! i'd be a fool if it offended meMERQRY wrote:Sorry if I offended you, I'm not really an expert when it comes to the Game Tour. I don't know which dates in the CONTINENT OF SOUTH AMERICA (yes, I know it's not a country, I passed grade 7 Geography) were filmed. That is why I put "South American dates." I could have just as well put "North American dates" or "European dates" there, but I knew which ones were filmed.Once again, I'm sorry if I offended you.MadTheSwine73 wrote:South American datesWhy "South American dates"?? South America isn't a country but part of a continent... i think the Sao pablo gig hasn't a good video quality, even official it looks like a vhs... Argentina has a little more video/audio quality (maybe they have more footage since they wanted to do a movie in these days) In South America they visited Argentina (5 gigs, 3 in buenos aires 1 in rosario and 1 in mar del plata) and Brazil (2 gigs on san pablo) but i don't know if the gig in Venezuela is considered as a South Am. gig (even when that gig is from a different "leg" of the tour) Now i have to say sorry if i offend you... |
Kevinrm15 09.05.2012 20:38 |
According to the QOL admin the DVD box sets won't be seen until 2013. This years releases are already planned. So I would assume we'll be getting reissues of Live Killers and Live Magic this year. |
SimonFerocious 10.05.2012 03:40 |
I thought the first night of the 86 Wembley shows was better than the second (even if it did rain). Freddie's voice was in much better shape. The Milton Keynes 82 show is already available in audio and video, so we don't need that again. Did any of the Slane 86 show survive? Some of it was recorded. I think they have to put out Live Magic again with all the cuts that ruined that album reinstated plus a fully restored and remastered version of Live Killers for starters. |
eYe 10.05.2012 05:27 |
3 Box Sets? Hmm, ... prolly the 3 London shows with A.L.! ^^ |
Holly2003 10.05.2012 06:21 |
eYe wrote: 3 Box Sets? Hmm, ... prolly the 3 London shows with A.L.! ^^Aaaghh! Don't give Queen Productions and Brian's bank manager ideas like that! Abort mission, abort mission! |
Hangman_96 10.05.2012 14:19 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: According to the QOL admin the DVD box sets won't be seen until 2013. This years releases are already planned. So I would assume we'll be getting reissues of Live Killers and Live Magic this year.Well, not bad. I was hoping for box sets this year, but I'll wait :-) |
MadTheSwine73 10.05.2012 19:18 |
MERQRY wrote:No worries :)MadTheSwine73 wrote:Please, don't worry you haven't onffended me! i'd be a fool if it offended me In South America they visited Argentina (5 gigs, 3 in buenos aires 1 in rosario and 1 in mar del plata) and Brazil (2 gigs on san pablo) but i don't know if the gig in Venezuela is considered as a South Am. gig (even when that gig is from a different "leg" of the tour) Now i have to say sorry if i offend you...MERQRY wrote:Sorry if I offended you, I'm not really an expert when it comes to the Game Tour. I don't know which dates in the CONTINENT OF SOUTH AMERICA (yes, I know it's not a country, I passed grade 7 Geography) were filmed. That is why I put "South American dates." I could have just as well put "North American dates" or "European dates" there, but I knew which ones were filmed.Once again, I'm sorry if I offended you.MadTheSwine73 wrote:South American datesWhy "South American dates"?? South America isn't a country but part of a continent... i think the Sao pablo gig hasn't a good video quality, even official it looks like a vhs... Argentina has a little more video/audio quality (maybe they have more footage since they wanted to do a movie in these days) |
Kevinrm15 21.05.2012 12:59 |
I think Queen should take after the Led Zeppelin DVD with these box sets. There are many shows where only parts are usable. I would suspect something perfectly fine (Rainbow 74) to be a standalone release outside the box sets. |
rocknrolllover 21.05.2012 13:46 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: I think Queen should take after the Led Zeppelin DVD with these box sets. There are many shows where only parts are usable. I would suspect something perfectly fine (Rainbow 74) to be a standalone release outside the box sets.Without official info I don't belive in box sets |
cmi 21.05.2012 14:27 |
Led Zeppelin DVD is in fact a weak desicion. Any LZ fan knows that standalone releases of complete RAH 70, Earls Court 75 and Knebworth 79 are more reasonable choices. Same situation with Queen 70's live material. Complete Hyde Park 76, Earls Court 77, Houston '77, Paris '79, London '79 shows are perfect for standalone or box releases. |
Kevinrm15 21.05.2012 16:00 |
Look, there obviously isn't complete footage of Hammersmith 75. So it will most likely take the place of RAH 70. Having the second DVD being footage from Hyde Park, Earls Court and Houston. Let's face it, the LZ DVD is more realistic then getting complete shows. |
The Real Wizard 22.05.2012 13:58 |
CMI wrote: Any LZ fan knows that standalone releases of complete RAH 70, Earls Court 75 and Knebworth 79 are more reasonable choices.Certainly not. Zeppelin were well past their peak in 1975, and Page was completely smacked out on heroin at the Knebworth 79 shows. None of these shows could be released in their entirety. Seattle 77 was even worse, so it couldn't even be considered. The Song Remains The Same is a cut and paste job too, so the reality is - barring a few songs from 1969, Royal Albert Hall 1970 is the only decent footage of raw Zeppelin we're ever going to see. As for Queen, of course I'd love to see anything from the 70s released, but realistically - a set similar to the Zeppelin 2-DVD is most feasible, with a few songs from things like Rainbow, Hyde Park and Earls Court. Although I'd kill to see a multi-night compilation of Rainbow or Earls Court... or even Paris 79. |
Kevinrm15 23.05.2012 14:08 |
Tell me Bob. What are your predictions for these 3 box sets? |
Liquid Scream 23.05.2012 20:38 |
I would rather see them do something similar to Kiss' Kissology DVD series. Multiple complete shows, television appearances and other odds and ends. |
Kevinrm15 23.05.2012 21:07 |
I'm sure we all have that dream but the reality is it's just a dream. |
The Real Wizard 23.05.2012 22:16 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: Tell me Bob. What are your predictions for these 3 box sets?My predictions are as good as anyone else's. We all have a pretty good idea of what's in the vaults, so as long as the footage has stood the test of time, anything is possible. |
MERQRY 23.05.2012 22:22 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I think they must digitalize all the footage they have even when they wont release it...Kevinrm15 wrote: Tell me Bob. What are your predictions for these 3 box sets?My predictions are as good as anyone else's. We all have a pretty good idea of what's in the vaults, so as long as the footage has stood the test of time, anything is possible. |
tomchristie22 24.05.2012 02:10 |
Liquid Scream wrote: I would rather see them do something similar to Kiss' Kissology DVD series. Multiple complete shows, television appearances and other odds and ends.Much of the material on Kissology is annoyingly cut down, in much worse quality than it is available in elsewhere, or just a poor inclusion choice. I think LZ DVD is a much nicer model. |
Liquid Scream 24.05.2012 12:09 |
tomchristie22 wrote:The first volume had complete shows. I do agree that there were too many cuts on the other volumes.Liquid Scream wrote: I would rather see them do something similar to Kiss' Kissology DVD series. Multiple complete shows, television appearances and other odds and ends.Much of the material on Kissology is annoyingly cut down, in much worse quality than it is available in elsewhere, or just a poor inclusion choice. I think LZ DVD is a much nicer model. I just like the idea of having footage that isn't good enough quality to be a stand alone release getting out there in some form. The single camera video of that early Kiss show in a bar on Volume 3 is great stuff. |
Hangman_96 27.05.2012 10:53 |
This year we're going to get reissues of Live Killers and Live Magic, as well as a Knebworth CD... perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. I thought press release would come out on Friday, but nothing's clear now. |
Kevinrm15 27.05.2012 12:00 |
According to QOL admin releases are scheduled for Sept, October and November. That doesn't mean that all three months will have live releases, maybe one. |
Hangman_96 01.06.2012 14:05 |
I've just thought about something, and I thought I'd share my thoughts with you. I could see September as the month for Freddie's solo stuff, October or November will be the month of live releases. I think some of you may have known all along but I just decided to summarise everything. And hopefully the beginning of 2013 might be the beginning of the box sets era. |
cmsdrums 02.06.2012 06:37 |
A new Freddie documentary is now finished (see my thread in the 'general' section) so that could be the Sept one. However I would possibly expect them to put it on tv first though following the viewing figures success of the Days of Our Lives before its Blu Ray release, so that's pure guess work on my part. |