| Fone Bone 18.04.2012 05:24 |
That Tupac thing at Coachella went pretty smoothly - watch it on Youtube for proof. Technically it looked quite groundbreaking, even if it's basically an improved 19th century parlour trick. If you can take the creepiness, it has potential for greatness - weren't Bo Rhap and Bijou undisputed highlights of the QPR tours ? And Bri and Rog have already worked exensively with Freddie vocals after his death, on MIH. Tupac's performance is reported to have cost somewhere between $100,000 and $400,000, so it might not be economically viable for a full tour but still the idea is mind-tingling, don't you think ? Maybe more than the idea of a C-Lebrity fronting Queen for what might be farewell shows ... |
| Vali 18.04.2012 05:39 |
No, please, no. I'd see that as the biggest cash-in option ever attempted. Didn't like seeing them use Freddie's vocals on 2 songs during TCR tour. For 1 song it's ok, for sentimental reasons and honouring Freddie purposes; but more than that, no. I'd rather go and see them with AL, really. Wich I won't. |
| pittrek 18.04.2012 06:04 |
No, no, no, no, no, no, NO ! Oh mamma mia, mamma mia |
| cmsdrums 18.04.2012 06:56 |
Not quite sure how I would feel about it, but Elvis' band have done a few tours like this to rave reviews from attendees and music press alike. No matter how good they would make it, I'm sure it would be slagged off simply because it's them though. I suppose another issue is as to how many shows would they be able to use - they could go for one gig (MK, Wembley, Budapest etc..) that we know exists in high quality, but then we're all so familiar with Freddie's performance it might get 'stale'. Perhaps a one off show in this format, using the best performances of Freddie from different eras would be ok, rather than a whole tour of the same performance? |
| madmetaltom 18.04.2012 07:30 |
Just no |
| thomasquinn 32989 18.04.2012 07:42 |
This would be the ultimate low, beyond which Brian May & Co. could sink no deeper. In other words, give it five months and a tour will be planned. Brian May, breaking new ground in the realm of the pathetic since 1992. |
| Dane 18.04.2012 08:14 |
I agree with CMS's last post. However it wouldn't work as a live show/tour. It WOULD work as a one off television show with perhaps a live studio audience. Along the lines of the DoRo show a couple of years back where they did TATDOOL in a similar way. Although I think they should use music video outtakes in stead of live material. |
| Gaabiizz 18.04.2012 09:10 |
No , please no |
| Fone Bone 18.04.2012 10:53 |
cmsdrums wrote: Not quite sure how I would feel about it, but Elvis' band have done a few tours like this to rave reviews from attendees and music press alike. No matter how good they would make it, I'm sure it would be slagged off simply because it's them though. I suppose another issue is as to how many shows would they be able to use - they could go for one gig (MK, Wembley, Budapest etc..) that we know exists in high quality, but then we're all so familiar with Freddie's performance it might get 'stale'. Perhaps a one off show in this format, using the best performances of Freddie from different eras would be ok, rather than a whole tour of the same performance?Fair point, they would have to use different sources, but you see that's the crazy thing about the Tupac performance : apparently it is NOT archive footage but presumably some motion capture wizardry. It would still make for a fascinating - if a tad morbid - show ... And the Elvis tours give a good benchmark indeed. |
| Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 18.04.2012 16:14 |
How much years do we have to wait for a hologram porn movie? But on my own home personal cinema set. Don't want to watch that in a stadium or at the o2 ! Wel perhaps only If the o2 sells out 19000 tickets to female students.... |
| MadTheSwine73 18.04.2012 18:15 |
pittrek wrote: No, no, no, no, no, no, NO ! Oh mamma mia, mamma miaMamma mia let me go |
| waunakonor 18.04.2012 19:34 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote:Beelzebub has the devil put aside for meeeeepittrek wrote: No, no, no, no, no, no, NO ! Oh mamma mia, mamma miaMamma mia let me go For meeeeeee For mmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (Sorry, I had to) |
| john bodega 19.04.2012 07:32 |
It was awful. He looked like a ridiculous avatar from a Guitar Hero game. I'm just glad they did it with a shit artist, so that I don't feel bad for laughing at him. Having said that, it'd be worth it to give Freddie the hologram treatment - just to see the reaction here. |
| emrabt 19.04.2012 07:52 |
About 5 years ago when i heard about Japan x doing this I thought that it might be good for queen, but then I saw it and it looked dreadful. Now having a GCI genie in an Aladdin pantomime would be great, i can see that looking great for the kids. |
| angermair73 19.04.2012 13:42 |
Well. Seems like Queen are on the poster for this hologram tour :-) |
| Pingfah 20.04.2012 08:09 |
Even a hologram of Freddie is better than Adam Lambert. Probably best to do neither though... |
| AlexRocks 20.04.2012 09:34 |
I think that this potentially could be very interesting...as I've said before I am open to all possiblities in the future...I especially want Queen to re-record much of their catelog with special guests and tour with them as well as do new songs. |
| Kacio 20.04.2012 11:38 |
angermair73 wrote: Well. Seems like Queen are on the poster for this hologram tour :-)fake? |
| greaserkat 20.04.2012 14:54 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It was awful. He looked like a ridiculous avatar from a Guitar Hero game. I'm just glad they did it with a shit artist, so that I don't feel bad for laughing at him. Having said that, it'd be worth it to give Freddie the hologram treatment - just to see the reaction here.Im interested in knowing why you think Tupac was a shit artist... |
| gold2040 21.04.2012 10:31 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It was awful. He looked like a ridiculous avatar from a Guitar Hero game. I'm just glad they did it with a shit artist, so that I don't feel bad for laughing at him. Having said that, it'd be worth it to give Freddie the hologram treatment - just to see the reaction here.I'm not really a fan of hip hop myself but i'm pretty sure that Tupac is held in regard somewhat on a level similar to Eminem within the hip hop community. Something tells me hip-hop ain't your thing, but that's cool, i'm pretty neutral here |
| brENsKi 21.04.2012 11:37 |
they may as well use a Freddie hologram... cos it's the only thing the desperate tw*ts haven't done in the last 20 years i can almost see the future "incarnations" of Queen+ 2016 - "Queen 45" tour - special guest - the incredibly lifelike Freddie Mercury blow-up doll - complete with working orifices 2021 - "queen 50" tour - special guest - the Freddie Mercury and John Deacon anthropomorphic robots. Singbot "Freddie" doesn't need autotune - cos his triple-quad core processor keys his synthetic "voicebox" to the opening notes of each tune. And "John" is the deluxe model in cyber-bass players. his android 17.6 operating system fixes all timing issues to ensure no element of human error. for added "Deacy" authenticity - he is dressed in extremely short shorts revealing some very convincing latex JD family jewels |
| angermair73 21.04.2012 14:54 |
It must be :-) |
| angermair73 21.04.2012 14:55 |
Kacio wrote:It must be :-)angermair73 wrote: Well. Seems like Queen are on the poster for this hologram tour :-)fake? |
| Kacio 21.04.2012 16:55 |
angermair73 wrote: It must be :-);) |
| Fireplace 21.04.2012 18:46 |
The way things have been going lately, chances are it will be the other way around. A decent singer and bass player may get sent on the road with holograms of Dr. Badger May and Mr. Extravaganza Taylor. |
| brENsKi 22.04.2012 03:53 |
^^^^ i'd pay to see that lineup :-) |
| cmsdrums 22.04.2012 13:03 |
Paul Rodgers will be going out on tour with Spike, Jamie and Rufus Taylor, to play a set of rarely played Queen tracks like Long Away, Tenement Funster, It's Late, Spread Your Wings etc.... |
| brENsKi 22.04.2012 13:36 |
cmsdrums wrote: Paul Rodgers will be going out on tour with Spike, Jamie and Rufus Taylor, to play a set of rarely played Queen tracks like Long Away, Tenement Funster, It's Late, Spread Your Wings etc.......and in other news...Brian and Roger will be playing the whole of "Highway" including a special 37-minute version of "the stealer" complete with unwarranted and mind-numbingly-out-of-place 34-minute Brighton Rock solo |
| Michael Allred 22.04.2012 15:54 |
brENsKi wrote: they may as well use a Freddie hologram... cos it's the only thing the desperate tw*ts haven't done in the last 20 years i can almost see the future "incarnations" of Queen+ 2016 - "Queen 45" tour - special guest - the incredibly lifelike Freddie Mercury blow-up doll - complete with working orifices 2021 - "queen 50" tour - special guest - the Freddie Mercury and John Deacon anthropomorphic robots. Singbot "Freddie" doesn't need autotune - cos his triple-quad core processor keys his synthetic "voicebox" to the opening notes of each tune. And "John" is the deluxe model in cyber-bass players. his android 17.6 operating system fixes all timing issues to ensure no element of human error. for added "Deacy" authenticity - he is dressed in extremely short shorts revealing some very convincing latex JD family jewelsWow, yet another whiny crying bitchy Queen fan. It must be miserable to be you. |
| brENsKi 22.04.2012 16:05 |
Michael Allred wrote:if you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and "whiny crying" you really are a pathetic little tw*t. i honestly couldn't give a flying fuck what queen do next. the point i was making (however lost on your immense cranial mass) was that they've done just about every other sad undignifying sell-out, so the above would surely not be beyond them either.brENsKi wrote: they may as well use a Freddie hologram... cos it's the only thing the desperate tw*ts haven't done in the last 20 years i can almost see the future "incarnations" of Queen+ 2016 - "Queen 45" tour - special guest - the incredibly lifelike Freddie Mercury blow-up doll - complete with working orifices 2021 - "queen 50" tour - special guest - the Freddie Mercury and John Deacon anthropomorphic robots. Singbot "Freddie" doesn't need autotune - cos his triple-quad core processor keys his synthetic "voicebox" to the opening notes of each tune. And "John" is the deluxe model in cyber-bass players. his android 17.6 operating system fixes all timing issues to ensure no element of human error. for added "Deacy" authenticity - he is dressed in extremely short shorts revealing some very convincing latex JD family jewelsWow, yet another whiny crying bitchy Queen fan. It must be miserable to be you. surely even you can see it was a jokey comment? otherwise why mae a reference to JD's familiy jewels being on display in those shorts? one other thing: you cite being a queen fan since 1992. that sums up the difference between us. you are desperate to suck whatever you can out of your queen existence, because you don't have any real-time pre-Freddie(RIP) memories. whereas i grew up actually looking forward to each new single or album or tour. i waited to see new videos, i remember (in real time) hearing somebody to love late at night on luxembourg in late 76, i remember seeing bo rhap video on ToTP for the first time one BBC1 in late 75. i remember things that this current inception of queen+ - no matter how hard they try, can NEVER take away. i'm not bitter, i have my memories - and they're genuine. waterfights on the M1 traffic jam on the way down to knebwroth, queues to get out of wembley after boy george being arrested the night of queen's gig there, throwing a meat pie at teardrop explodes' horn player at M Keynes. seeing queen (deacon and taylor i think) appear on saturday morning Tiswas promoting a new album and tour and hearing "father to Son" being played to intrduce them. i actually feel for you. because you will never experience just how good queen were as a band in the news in real time, to grow up with. all you have is the current sh*t, and that's a sorry excuse for a band |
| Michael Allred 22.04.2012 16:32 |
brENsKi wrote:Sorry, all I get out of your sad little rants is "wahhhh, I'm a whiny little bitch! wahhh Queen doesn't do what I want them to do! wahhhhh I know better than they do! wahhh I saw the REAL Queen live and you didn't so I'm awesome! wahhhhh"Michael Allred wrote:if you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and "whiny crying" you really are a pathetic little tw*t. i honestly couldn't give a flying fuck what queen do next. the point i was making (however lost on your immense cranial mass) was that they've done just about every other sad undignifying sell-out, so the above would surely not be beyond them either. surely even you can see it was a jokey comment? otherwise why mae a reference to JD's familiy jewels being on display in those shorts? one other thing: you cite being a queen fan since 1992. that sums up the difference between us. you are desperate to suck whatever you can out of your queen existence, because you don't have any real-time pre-Freddie(RIP) memories. whereas i grew up actually looking forward to each new single or album or tour. i waited to see new videos, i remember (in real time) hearing somebody to love late at night on luxembourg in late 76, i remember seeing bo rhap video on ToTP for the first time one BBC1 in late 75. i remember things that this current inception of queen+ - no matter how hard they try, can NEVER take away. i'm not bitter, i have my memories - and they're genuine. waterfights on the M1 traffic jam on the way down to knebwroth, queues to get out of wembley after boy george being arrested the night of queen's gig there, throwing a meat pie at teardrop explodes' horn player at M Keynes. seeing queen (deacon and taylor i think) appear on saturday morning Tiswas promoting a new album and tour and hearing "father to Son" being played to intrduce them. i actually feel for you. because you will never experience just how good queen were as a band in the news in real time, to grow up with. all you have is the current sh*t, and that's a sorry excuse for a bandbrENsKi wrote: they may as well use a Freddie hologram... cos it's the only thing the desperate tw*ts haven't done in the last 20 years i can almost see the future "incarnations" of Queen+ 2016 - "Queen 45" tour - special guest - the incredibly lifelike Freddie Mercury blow-up doll - complete with working orifices 2021 - "queen 50" tour - special guest - the Freddie Mercury and John Deacon anthropomorphic robots. Singbot "Freddie" doesn't need autotune - cos his triple-quad core processor keys his synthetic "voicebox" to the opening notes of each tune. And "John" is the deluxe model in cyber-bass players. his android 17.6 operating system fixes all timing issues to ensure no element of human error. for added "Deacy" authenticity - he is dressed in extremely short shorts revealing some very convincing latex JD family jewelsWow, yet another whiny crying bitchy Queen fan. It must be miserable to be you. |
| brENsKi 22.04.2012 16:50 |
where did i say that? don't be so pathetic. the subject of the thread is "what about a freddie hologram tour" i, like everyone else made acomment on it even adding some joking alternatives. what i'm getting from you is "i'm so pathetic, all i have in my life is queen, i can't live without Brian May, and i really really really really hate it and scream the place down when anyoen says anyting bad about queen" could your nose be any further up Mr May's arsehole? |
| Michael Allred 22.04.2012 16:58 |
brENsKi wrote: where did i say that? don't be so pathetic. the subject of the thread is "what about a freddie hologram tour" i, like everyone else made acomment on it even adding some joking alternatives. what i'm getting from you is "i'm so pathetic, all i have in my life is queen, i can't live without Brian May, and i really really really really hate it and scream the place down when anyoen says anyting bad about queen" could your nose be any further up Mr May's arsehole?Typically clueless response. No basis in fact what so ever. Go shine up that Freddie statue you worship. |
| brENsKi 23.04.2012 00:53 |
and that, is the response of someone bereft of a decent idea or response to call their own IOW - a stepford. hope you enjoy the tour this year, and the american idol sh*t - pitty you have no inbuilt quality control to recognize when queen are chucking out shit....probably because there's been so much of it these last 20 years that it dumbs down your expectations, and before you know it mediocre becomes good. well not for me |
| MackMantilla 23.04.2012 15:43 |
discard this! |
| Michael Allred 24.04.2012 05:39 |
brENsKi wrote: and that, is the response of someone bereft of a decent idea or response to call their own IOW - a stepford. hope you enjoy the tour this year, and the american idol sh*t - pitty you have no inbuilt quality control to recognize when queen are chucking out shit....probably because there's been so much of it these last 20 years that it dumbs down your expectations, and before you know it mediocre becomes good. well not for meYou clearly do not remember the infamous soapbox comments Dr. May made about yours truly some years back because I dared to be critical of Queen. Your "stepford" response is proof positive you just have no idea what you're talking about and are grasping for straws. |
| tomchristie22 24.04.2012 09:01 |
These boards are starting to get cluttered with all these fucking retarded arguments. I haven't even been here more than six months and it's degraded a lot since. On a side note, OP, your username made me think of Bone and shed a tear of joy. Because I love Bone. *sniff* |
| Vocal harmony 24.04.2012 11:19 |
The Elvis hologram tours worked because the hologram is the centre of attention. Just as in the day the star of the show was Elvis. Not his baking band. Queen were a band, not Freddie's backing band. If they toured with a holographic "film" of Freddie the dynamic of the show would change relegating BM and RT to no more than backing musicians. |
| Fone Bone 25.04.2012 05:30 |
@tomchristie : reading Bone makes for fond memories indeed @vocalharmony : no wonder Elvis got so fat while touring with a baking band ;-) Otherwise, I'll admit a Holo-Freddie tour would be of questionable taste, but isn't Adam Lambert's vibrato ? The Tupac thingy certainly has given some people some ideas (the Jimi Hendrix and Michael Jackson's estates, for instance). In any case they would have to play Who Wants To Live Forever |
| Holly2003 25.04.2012 06:00 |
Instead of a hologram they could use a puppet, a robot, a ventriloquist's dummy, or just put his ashes on the stage and play some "robot chicken" style animation of Fred in the background. Any of these super classy ideas would be better than a hologram, which in my view, seems just a little bit cheap. |
| brENsKi 25.04.2012 10:58 |
coming to a stage near you...soon... the Freddie Mercury.....cardboard cutout |
| tomchristie22 26.04.2012 01:29 |
Not that I like the idea of any Freddie tour, I think footage of Freddie on a screen would work better than any of the other alternatives (just like Bijou and Bo Rhap on Q+PR) |
| tomchristie22 26.04.2012 01:30 |
Except not video of Wembley |
| shamar 27.04.2012 14:22 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It was awful. He looked like a ridiculous avatar from a Guitar Hero game. I'm just glad they did it with a shit artist, so that I don't feel bad for laughing at him. Having said that, it'd be worth it to give Freddie the hologram treatment - just to see the reaction here.1 - no. It was probably the best CGI human creation we've seen so far. 2 - shit artist? no comment. Fred's hologram on tour? idiotic idea and probably technicaly imposibile. But short apperance? Why not? We had Fred on screen on Bijou or BR. And now he can stand on stage as holo. |
| john bodega 28.04.2012 01:07 |
"no. It was probably the best CGI human creation we've seen so far" Congratulations, you have low standards. |
| shamar 28.04.2012 16:50 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "no. It was probably the best CGI human creation we've seen so far" Congratulations, you have low standards.I'm interested in FX movies for years so U can show noow your high standards. Where U've seen better, from A to Z, CGI creation of human? I'm waiting. |
| emrabt 28.04.2012 20:41 |
Where U've seen better, from A to Z, CGI creation of human? ================== The giant marlon brando in superman returns. And This: link This Tupac is on par with that advert of Bob Monkhouse from 2007 where he talks about Dying of prostate cancer, it's not bad, but it won't hold up to looking real, its been done before, a lot. link |
| john bodega 29.04.2012 03:44 |
"I'm interested in FX movies for years" Hahaha. Is this you? link You don't seem to grasp that 'CG people' is an industry standard sort of effect, now. It's not special and hasn't been for a long time. This crappy Tupac isn't significantly better than where they were when they did Gollum ten years ago. It's reached a saturation point where any advance is going to be incremental at best. No offense, but people like you were the ones who shat their pants over how amazing the Final Fantasy CG movie was. That was in 2001. I saw a bit of that a couple of months ago and it looked silly. We're at a point where stuff like this link and this link and this link and this link is not special. It's available to anyone with a big enough wallet. The Tupac thing is not impressive. It was an expensive gimmick that any effects house could've pulled off. In fact, there's a lot of 'amateurs' who could've done the same job for less money (although it might've taken them longer). And Tupac sucks anyway. Are we done here?? |
| shamar 29.04.2012 07:40 |
* Brandois just transparent head in crystals, made from "old footage" manipulated with CGI. In "making of" he looks good but like animation. * Emily is quite good but remember that they made her face from living, real person. Am I wrong? * Bob is bad and probably from old footage) Take a look at James Dean commercial or Steve McQueen. It looks way better. I thought of comapre that Pac with Button, Clu 2.0. |
| shamar 29.04.2012 07:42 |
@ Zebonka12 First of all- I said "probably the best CGI creation of human". Why? Coz we had just a bootleg version, we can't see source video in HD etc. 2nd - Makers says that he made him CGI at all. Skin, moves, mimics. Everything. I can't remeber that someone made that kinda stuff before with this quality. They made JUST PARTS of BODY (Tron, Button etc.) And what about this game-animations? That looks sucks. "The Tupac thing is not impressive." Where do U have eyes? Look at his moves, look at his chain, look at his face. He doesn't look like animated crap from Final Fantasy. And Gollum is not human being. Now (10 years later) it looks like crap. |
| john bodega 29.04.2012 09:34 |
Haha. Thing is, it took a few years for Gollum to look dodgy. CG Tupac looked crap as soon as people had time to wipe the tears from their eyes and stop laughing. |
| emrabt 29.04.2012 13:27 |
* Brandois just transparent head in crystals, made from "old footage" manipulated with CGI. In "making of" he looks good but like animation. =============== His head was recreated with CG, wireframe skined with footage from "superman" looks better than tupac. ======================= * Emily is quite good but remember that they made her face from living, real person. Am I wrong? ================ No idea, still looks better than tupac. ======== * Bob is bad and probably from old footage Take a look at James Dean commercial or Steve McQueen. It looks way better. =========== Fully CGi, with most of the audio from a radio interview before his death and as bad as tupac sliding around the stage after being projected onto a Perspex screen. The Tupac is old footage of him with new hand and mouth movements CGI'd on, it's not a full animation. you seem to think is fully rendered, it isn’t. Most of the time it's not even in sync and the image is distorted. This isn't the first time this has been done, the CGI mouth movements or the pepper's ghost projection. |
| shamar 30.04.2012 17:39 |
How come U can say that 2pac looks bad if U can't watch HD "source" material? Fairytale... U saw just poor bootlegs but say - it looks like shit. "The Tupac is old footage of him with new hand and mouth movements CGI'd on...," Any proves? Makers says that he's 100% CGI. No old footage. |
| emrabt 30.04.2012 20:37 |
How come U can say that 2pac looks bad if U can't watch HD "source" material? ============== You don't know what i have seen and what i haven't do you, I could have been there couldn't i? Yes i've seen proper footage not bootleg footage from youtube. HE slides around the stage, no amount of HD footage will stop him sliding around the stage or make him look better in comparison to the real perosn next to him. ================ ny proves? Makers says that he's 100% CGI. No old footage. ================== Your english isn't very good so i assume you have miss understood the line "'This is not found footage. This is an illusion. This is just the beginning. Dre has a massive vision for this." Which means it's not Footage on a screen. It’s projected onto Perspex. There is an article in new scientist which explain things: ”The virtual Tupac was put together by video technology firm AV Concepts with the help of James Cameron’s visual effects company, Digital Domain, using a mix of previously recorded live footage and CGI. The hologram effect was created using a system developed by London-based Musion, which uses an advanced version of a 19th century magic trick called Pepper’s ghost to make virtual images appear live on stage.” Understand that? "using a mix of previously recorded live footage and CGI." This is what the makers say. Please stop assuming Things and try to understand that some people might know things you do not. |
| freddiefan91 01.05.2012 07:09 |
link luckily roger has dismissed the idea |
| emrabt 01.05.2012 07:15 |
luckily roger has dismissed the idea ============ But has brian? |
| tcc 01.05.2012 10:05 |
Why don't they think of a 3-D movie of their 1986 wembley gig ? |
| shamar 02.05.2012 07:35 |
============== You don't know what i have seen and what i haven't do you, I could have been there couldn't i? Yes i've seen proper footage not bootleg footage from youtube. ================ So? Where do U saw this? This is another argument like-I saw this in mf best quality and it still looks bad but won't tell U where I saw this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HE slides around the stage, no amount of HD footage will stop him sliding around the stage or make him look better in comparison to the real perosn next to him. ---------------------------------------------------------- What sliding has to skin look, movements or mimic? He was sliding probably coz it was poor projection. Are U sure that he's sliding on source material? HD material wont make him look better? So what's the point of realisng HD movies? When it dont looks better in HD? SD, HD doesnt matter. It just marketing trap. Nice joke. Really. They made him in HD and display in "pepper ghost" mode but you exactly know that the source material displayed in HD on big screen wont be looks better. ================== Your english isn't very good so i assume you have miss understood the line "'This is not found footage. This is an illusion. This is just the beginning. Dre has a massive vision for this." Which means it's not Footage on a screen. It’s projected onto Perspex. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The thing that I'm not good in "writing" doesnt mean that I can't understand. U like manipulate, don't U? I was talking about "source video material", not method of display. They must made video material first and later project it on screen and reflect on mylar. Are sure that I'm just one person who don't understand what read? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There is an article in new scientist which explain things: ”The virtual Tupac was put together by video technology firm AV Concepts with the help of James Cameron’s visual effects company, Digital Domain, using a mix of previously recorded live footage and CGI. The hologram effect was created using a system developed by London-based Musion, which uses an advanced version of a 19th century magic trick called Pepper’s ghost to make virtual images appear live on stage.” Understand that? "using a mix of previously recorded live footage and CGI." This is what the makers say. Please stop assuming Things and try to understand that some people might know things you do not. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey genius. Look what I read before and what makers says: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ulbrich also stated the performances of Tupac's hits "Hail Mary" and "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" were not old performances recycled. "This is not found footage. This is not archival footage. This is an illusion." " link " If that makes the creation of a holographic Shakur seem easy, it's not -- especially because the virtual Shakur's performance was not based on archival footage." "This is not him performing at some point, this is completely original, exclusive performance only for Coachella and that audience," Ed Ulbrich, chief creative officer at Digital Domain told Bloomberg. And because Shakur was a real person with a devoted fan following, it was crucial to get all his mannerisms, the tone of his voice, the placement of his tattoos, etc., correct. The company created the virtual Tupac from video footage and photos of the rapper, working on the project for about four months. link Digital Doman is the company that made the hologram happen, and their Chief Creative Officer, Ed Ulbrich, stated, “This is not found footage. This is not archival footage. This is an illusion.” This means that a 2Pac tour wouldn’t be recycled footage from old Pac shows, but all new creations of the deceased rapper’s look-alike “performing.” link --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So where's the truth? |
| emrabt 02.05.2012 09:55 |
shamar, i have explained to you that it is a "new performance" but sourced from old footage with new mouth and arm movements. Making a new performance. It's not 100% CGI, and they have never said that it is, the only person saying this is you. The things you have linked to also confirm this: =================== The company created the virtual Tupac from video footage and photos of the rapper "This is not found footage. This is not archival footage. This is an illusion. his is not him performing at some point, this is completely original, exclusive performance ============== You yourself quoted this above!! i have no idea what you are going on and on about "HD". I have also told you where i saw the footage and know how this was done, the massive artical in new scientist, Showing how it was done. You have misunderstood, which is fine, You obviously are having trouble understanding so i will just leave things here. |
| shamar 07.05.2012 17:00 |
You obviously are having trouble understanding so i will just leave things here. ------------------------------------------------- Think for f...in one second. I'm not english language speaking guy. I can "not understand" things written in english. But I can write U some words in my root language. Do U think U understand anything? |
| emrabt 07.05.2012 20:53 |
Think for f...in one second. I'm not english language speaking guy. I can "not understand" things written in english. But I can write U some words in my root language. Do U think U understand anything? ============ How charming, i have been nothing but polite and understanding towards you and you have repeatedly told me I’m wrong despite clearly not fully grasping what you are reading. And depending on your “root language” I could possibly understand yes, but this has nothing to do with anything on this thread does it? Do you think swearing is some type of show of affection, if not please do not swear at me, I have not done it to you, it's common courtesy. You have not understood what you are reading, that is not the problem, English is not your first language so mistakes will happen, the problem is your constant denial that you are mistaken, and that this was a 100% CGI hologram despite posting quotes to the contrary. |
| john bodega 08.05.2012 01:40 |
There are some things that can't be blamed on a language barrier. The guy is a moron - let him be. |
| shamar 08.05.2012 16:19 |
Zebonka12 wrote: The guy is a moron - let him be. I see that primitives are everywhere. So u think that u r cool coz got over 11 000 posts? U got over 11 000 but also brain of a redneck I see. @ emrabt "Think for f...in one second." was just Bale style joke. nothing offensive. |
| Fone Bone 11.05.2012 08:30 |
And there you have it Brian May: 'Freddie Mercury will appear in 'We Will Rock You' but not as a hologram' "It's a little unfortunate they did that thing with Tupac as we've been trying to make Freddie appear on the stage for quite a while." link |
| Gaabiizz 11.05.2012 11:05 |
Fone Bone wrote: And there you have it Brian May: 'Freddie Mercury will appear in 'We Will Rock You' but not as a hologram' Yeaaaaaaah! |
| shamar 13.05.2012 16:11 |
I told it. Why not some short apperances? But it's sounds strange. Not hologram, not "ghost pepper" so what? What illusion? Actor in Freddies mask? |
| john bodega 14.05.2012 08:41 |
"I see that primitives are everywhere. So u think that u r cool coz got over 11 000 posts?" Hey what the hell? I was being NICE to you and asked the other guy to leave you alone! It's not my fault if you're a fucking moron. |
| shamar 14.05.2012 16:21 |
U're just primitive troll with your shits,fucks, morons etc. Grow up frustrated kid. |
| john bodega 15.05.2012 09:05 |
"U're" Midge? |
| emrabt 17.05.2012 08:10 |
Anyway back on topic, the problem with a Freddie tour would be footage, they would need footage of Freddie relatively still standing in place, not running around the stage, which has been shot from one camera angle face on. Basically it leaves us with "these are the day of our lives", with CGI legs attached, The barcalona stuff used for the "live" version at the Camp Nou stadium in 1992, with a CGI body, or freddie dancing to some of "I was born to love you" rotoscoped from the clip of him surrounded by mirrors. To be honest i wouldn't mind having a Brian & Roger tour with these are the days of our lives as a duet between roger and a projection of Freddie, it's no different to having Borap or bijou on the screen. |
| tomchristie22 18.05.2012 02:45 |
The duet idea sounds kind of nice |
| shamar 01.07.2012 16:58 |
emrabt wrote: Anyway back on topic, the problem with a Freddie tour would be footage, they would need footage of Freddie relatively still standing in place, not running around the stage, which has been shot from one camera angle face on.Digital Domain guys can make miracles. I'm sure. The barcalona stuff used for the "live" version at the Camp Nou stadium in 1992Is somewhere around good quality of it? it's no different to having Borap or bijou on the screen.Exactly. And feelings could be way better. Look at 2Pacs masterpiece. |
| Brucek 04.07.2012 11:56 |
No, No, No, No NO!!! Why would you want to make a mockery out of Freddie? It's a ridiculous idea. |
| Jake12 06.02.2015 22:19 |
Hate to bring this up again but saw this video which had me thinking.. Maybe not that bad! If it was in a small theater or studio. link I think this would be cool if they did this.. And maybe if they did they would do it towards the Mercury Trust Foundation. |
| Vocal harmony 09.02.2015 06:44 |
The whole idea, for Queen, would be wrong. BM and RT are live musicians, who both play differently from night to night, I don't think syncing them to a time code or click track for a whole concert would work and would make the performance sound constricted. Also Freddie had a huge impact on anyone who saw him live, but can you imagine the effect he had on the rest of the band who shared those stages with him night after night. Would they want to stand next to a projection singing the same songs in exactly the same way night after night and having no real interaction with the different dynamics an audience from one city to another bring. |
| Thistle 09.02.2015 20:57 |
Just do it already. You can call it the Queen Forever tour, and have MJ come on for a couple of tracks. |