| mickeybrad173 09.04.2012 13:09 |
According to the Independent Newspaper Queen's Greatest Hits 1 has sold over 5.8 million copies and has beaten The Beatles Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band which has sold only 5 million copies. The full Story link. Queen's Greatest Hits 2 also appears on the list at number 10. |
| Gaabiizz 09.04.2012 13:41 |
Yeah :) |
| brENsKi 09.04.2012 16:07 |
why is this an acomplishment? so a greatest hits compilation outsells a regular lp...wow now if you'd said ANATO outsold SPLHCB then that would be worthy of news if we are going to give this list some real meaning we need to strip out all of the greatest hits albums...this leaves a top ten of "actual band studio recordings" that look like this 1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) The Beatles 2. What's The Story (1995) Oasis 3. Thriller (1982) Michael Jackson 4. 21 (2011) Adele 5. Brothers In Arms (1985) Dire Straits 6. Dark Side Of The Moon (1973) Pink Floyd 7. Bad (1987) Michael Jackson 8. Back To Black (2006) Amy Winehouse 9. Stars (1991) Simply Red 10. Rumours (1977) Fleetwood Mac ...which is pretty much how i would;ve seen this list being at any time in the last ten years....Adele excluded weird how Queen's best-selling studio recording didn't even make the top 40....now thta says more about queen... think about it, the public put BOTH greatest hits albums in there, like madonna, abba etc, but don't include opera. that makes queen a singles band, by most accounts. |
| Micrówave 09.04.2012 16:44 |
What about the 11 million it (Sgt Peppers) sold in the US to Queen's GH1 8 million? |
| brENsKi 09.04.2012 16:48 |
i think the point of this thread was that it was about "selective glory" |
| MadTheSwine73 09.04.2012 19:27 |
brENsKi is completely right. |
| waunakonor 09.04.2012 21:57 |
Why is everyone talking about this all of a sudden? Really, the fact that Queen's compilations are at the top instead of "real" albums boils down to the differences in how the bands have handled their legacies. The Beatles have released some compilation albums, but don't overwhelm people with them. Queen kind of does. Really, it's just the same old point that Queen should have handled their legacy differently, but they didn't and they still aren't, and no matter how much me or anyone else complains, their back catalogue gets little attention. That's all it is. How their legacies are handled. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 09.04.2012 22:39 |
That's a very valid point waunakonor. They wanted to be a hits band, they got what they wanted. |
| brENsKi 10.04.2012 10:21 |
and consquently "opera" "II" and "races" get completely overlooked in any true great lists |
| Bo Rhap 10.04.2012 23:12 |
Which is why they did the deep cuts albums.In the vain hope that the general buying public would pick up on them.Which they didnt. |
| brENsKi 11.04.2012 10:57 |
"stable door" and "horse" are the key words here. deep cuts were too little too late....why release these 20 years after the last time the four of them recorded anything together? time to do this was when they were still evolving as a unit - say 78-81 - they coulda stuck to two singles per album but the didn't. The Game - 4 singles Hot Space - 4 singles The Works - 4 singles AKOM - 4 singles The Miracle - 5 singles Innuendo - 5 singles? by this time their reputation as a singles band was cemented. |
| AlbaNo1 11.04.2012 16:03 |
Most of the remaining real albums on the list released plenty singles from them. They are all still just collections of songs. Is the "problem" with Queen from this angle that they released so many albums in a short period of time around the early to mid 70s. Had there been one mid 70s album with Killer Queen, Bo Rhap and Somebody to Love on it for example surely this would have created one truly massive smash album. |
| tomchristie22 12.04.2012 03:02 |
I don't think they always meant to be a singles band, however once it got to the point of AKOM and The Miracle this was pretty evident, considering those are basically singles and filler |
| brENsKi 12.04.2012 11:49 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: Most of the remaining real albums on the list released plenty singles from them. They are all still just collections of songs. Is the "problem" with Queen from this angle that they released so many albums in a short period of time around the early to mid 70s. Had there been one mid 70s album with Killer Queen, Bo Rhap and Somebody to Love on it for example surely this would have created one truly massive smash album.you don't need to release loads of singles to shift warehouses full of albums, you just need to make something good. Rumours, Thriller, DSOTM, Zep4 and Brothers in Arms weren't still popping in and out of the album charts years after release because of further single releases - they were in the charts because they were really good albums floyd, zeppelin and other respected bands never bothered with singles, the who used to limit it to one or two per album and the beatles were in the habit of new singles not being on the album that followed. good example being Sgt Peppers - where Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane were not included, because they adopted a policy of "new album = new material" |
| AlbaNo1 15.04.2012 13:51 |
Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less. |
| brENsKi 15.04.2012 16:51 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had. Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well. |
| waunakonor 15.04.2012 19:30 |
brENsKi wrote:Actually, DSotM has a couple singles, and Money charted as a hit, but you still have a good pointAlbaNo1 wrote: Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had. Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well. |
| brENsKi 16.04.2012 03:03 |
waunakonor wrote:NOT in the UK !brENsKi wrote:Actually, DSotM has a couple singles, and Money charted as a hit, but you still have a good pointAlbaNo1 wrote: Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had. Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well. Another Birck in the Wall (pt2) was their first UK single since the 1960s |
| AlbaNo1 16.04.2012 12:53 |
brENsKi wrote:I dont think anything could turn Queen into Floyd. But what realistically could have been done, which I think some of the band have mentioned since was that Race/Opera could have been released as a double album. Thats the kind of idea Im driving at. One massive album at peak given time to sell.AlbaNo1 wrote: Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had. Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well. |
| brENsKi 17.04.2012 03:21 |
i take your point about the marketing angle. the swaing point about the band was probably - the money - the band were struggling - no money from the record sales - the management had been sacked. think they decided to maimise the commercial aspects and singles used to make loads of money back then. one point to note. pink floyd, beatles, ... made their double labums much later on in their careers. beatles - white album - 10th album pink floyd - the wall - 10th album by the time queen woulda reached their 10th album - Hot Space, the double album was no longer that fashionable |
| Day dop 19.04.2012 14:49 |
I don't think your list has any more meaning. At the end of the day, the Brits have shoved their hands in their pockets to buy Queens greatest hits more than any other album. And that's what the original list is about. Simple as that. |
| waunakonor 19.04.2012 15:33 |
brENsKi wrote:Ok, whatever. Guess that's what I get for using Wikipedia.waunakonor wrote:NOT in the UK ! Another Birck in the Wall (pt2) was their first UK single since the 1960sbrENsKi wrote:Actually, DSotM has a couple singles, and Money charted as a hit, but you still have a good pointAlbaNo1 wrote: Im just doing basic maths here and applying hypothetically - the bulk of the best selling UK album is made up of songs released by Queen between 74-78 or so but spread over 6 albums. Thats a lot. Had there been more concentration of hits on one or two albums these would have sold more and greatest hits less.well i would have to disagree. or at least question which incompetent twat of a maths teacher you had. Sgt Pepper's & Dark Side of the Moon had (to the best of my knowledge) zero UK singles released off either...and they did pretty well. brENsKi wrote: i take your point about the marketing angle. the swaing point about the band was probably - the money - the band were struggling - no money from the record sales - the management had been sacked. think they decided to maimise the commercial aspects and singles used to make loads of money back then. one point to note. pink floyd, beatles, ... made their double labums much later on in their careers. beatles - white album - 10th album pink floyd - the wall - 10th album by the time queen woulda reached their 10th album - Hot Space, the double album was no longer that fashionableLed Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti - 6th album (over halfway through their career) |