Stelios 08.03.2012 18:33 |
My vote goes to the "Mama Please Let Me Back Inside" verse of Mother Love. I find it to be highly tragic to the extent of slightly disturbing. In the fear of death as Freddie lets go he pleads for a returning back to the womb. Back to the safety of mama to take him in again. This is heavy, very heavy stuff from a man looking directly to the abyss. P.S. Have to add that i always thought that this line came from Freddies hand, cos it sounds extremely personal. But Brian sais in his Soapbox : "WELL, I WROTE THE LYRICS AS WE WENT ALONG, BUT I DID SO FEELING A KIND OF CLOSE EMPATHY WITH FREDDIE … I JUST KEPT CHECKING WITH HIM ….. HE KEPT NODDING AND ENCOURAGING … AND WHEN THE TAPE WAS ROLLING HE WOULD GO FOR THE LINES".(link-link |
waunakonor 08.03.2012 19:04 |
"Are you running...are you running...are you running?" For some reason, that bit makes me really sad, which is weird because it doesn't really mean anything in particular as far as I know. That one's good too, though; all of Mother Love is so sad. |
MadTheSwine73 08.03.2012 19:13 |
I would have to go with, and as cliche as this might be, "Any way the wind blows," or "Nothing really matters to me." |
waunakonor 08.03.2012 19:43 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote: I would have to go with, and as cliche as this might be, "Any way the wind blows," or "Nothing really matters to me."How is that tragic? Just wondering. |
tomchristie22 08.03.2012 22:49 |
waunakonor wrote: "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" For some reason, that bit makes me really sad, which is weird because it doesn't really mean anything in particular as far as I know. That one's good too, though; all of Mother Love is so sad.What's that from? Confused. I'd have to say the entirety of Nevermore hit me pretty hard the first time I listened to it. 'And now it matters not if I should live or die' from Jealousy also had a similar effect on me. |
MadTheSwine73 08.03.2012 23:08 |
waunakonor wrote: MadTheSwine73 wrote: I would have to go with, and as cliche as this might be, "Any way the wind blows," or "Nothing really matters to me." How is that tragic? Just wondering. I don't know... It just moves me. |
Ziggy_SD 09.03.2012 02:02 |
You're all wrong. Queen's most tragic lyric is "You've got the cutest ass I've ever seen / Knock me down for a six anytime". |
jpf 09.03.2012 02:07 |
Which is Queen's most tragic lyrics? "Body Language" |
MadTheSwine73 09.03.2012 10:33 |
The Flash Danny Project wrote: You're all wrong. Queen's most tragic lyric is "You've got the cutest ass I've ever seen / Knock me down for a six anytime".lol So true ;) |
malicedoom 09.03.2012 11:17 |
They don't usually do sad (the last couple of albums of course being a huge exception) but, of the earlier albums, the final line of In Only Seven Days (off Jazz) would qualify for me: "So sad... alone." |
Gaabiizz 09.03.2012 11:41 |
The Show Must Go On... |
Russian Headlong 09.03.2012 12:08 |
whatever comes out of Adam Lambert's gob when he imitates Lord Freddie of Mercury |
MadTheSwine73 09.03.2012 12:32 |
Russian Headlong wrote: whatever comes out of Adam Lambert's gob when he imitates Lord Freddie of Mercury *applause* |
Stelios 09.03.2012 12:44 |
waunakonor wrote: "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" For some reason, that bit makes me really sad, which is weird because it doesn't really mean anything in particular as far as I know. That one's good too, though; all of Mother Love is so sad.The "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" coming from Untitled Hidden Track of MIH album i think is also sad for the reason it is the first post-death track of Queen. It gives a subconscious texture of moving on to the other world. Its like the living asking the dead "Do you still exist is some way?" or "Are you heading for somewhere (space, universe, heaven)?" |
plumrach 09.03.2012 12:46 |
Mother love where he sings I long for peace before i die |
brENsKi 09.03.2012 13:12 |
malicedoom wrote: They don't usually do sad (the last couple of albums of course being a huge exception)really? seriosuly? think you've been listening to different albums to me then, freddie's writing is littered with "sad" in one form or another...whether it be lovelorn, tradegy, futility, he did it all some examples from the albums you say they didn't do sad on: liar my fairy king nevermore in the lap of the gods revisited love of my life you take my breath away somebody to love my melancholy blues jealousy life is real it's a hard life keep passing the open windows |
brENsKi 09.03.2012 13:13 |
STELIOS wrote:i thought it did mean something very specific....Freddie was asking if the tape was running?waunakonor wrote: "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" For some reason, that bit makes me really sad, which is weird because it doesn't really mean anything in particular as far as I know. That one's good too, though; all of Mother Love is so sad.The "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" coming from Untitled Hidden Track of MIH album i think is also sad for the reason it is the first post-death track of Queen. It gives a subconscious texture of moving on to the other world. Its like the living asking the dead "Do you still exist is some way?" or "Are you heading for somewhere (space, universe, heaven)?" |
BelfastQueenFan 09.03.2012 14:23 |
Its not tragic but the anger in Death on Two legs "You're a sewer rat decaying in a cesspool of pride" is a great line. |
Stelios 09.03.2012 15:30 |
brENsKi wrote:Even if the literal meaning was what you mention you think they put it in this specific track without having in mind the potential subtext or interpretation? I am not saying that my interpretation is valid.I am saying that for me it worked in that way.STELIOS wrote:i thought it did mean something very specific....Freddie was asking if the tape was running?waunakonor wrote: "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" For some reason, that bit makes me really sad, which is weird because it doesn't really mean anything in particular as far as I know. That one's good too, though; all of Mother Love is so sad.The "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" coming from Untitled Hidden Track of MIH album i think is also sad for the reason it is the first post-death track of Queen. It gives a subconscious texture of moving on to the other world. Its like the living asking the dead "Do you still exist is some way?" or "Are you heading for somewhere (space, universe, heaven)?" P.S. Also have to say that my interpretation doesn’t work anymore. I hadn’t realized that it was Freddie’s voice on "Are you running?".pfff.... |
waunakonor 09.03.2012 16:50 |
tomchristie22 wrote:As mentioned above, it's from the untitled track 13 of Made in Heaven, you know, the one that just goes on and on and on and on...it's kind of a pretty thing that I believe is supposed to represent the afterlife, though I don't know if "Are you running?" is as simple as what brENsKI is suggesting or if there's more backstory to it. Anyway, I kind of like it, even though it makes me kind of sad.waunakonor wrote: "Are you running...are you running...are you running?" For some reason, that bit makes me really sad, which is weird because it doesn't really mean anything in particular as far as I know. That one's good too, though; all of Mother Love is so sad.What's that from? Confused. I'd have to say the entirety of Nevermore hit me pretty hard the first time I listened to it. 'And now it matters not if I should live or die' from Jealousy also had a similar effect on me. MadTheSwine73 wrote:Fair enough, I just wasn't really thinking along those lines.waunakonor wrote:I don't know... It just moves me.MadTheSwine73 wrote: I would have to go with, and as cliche as this might be, "Any way the wind blows," or "Nothing really matters to me."How is that tragic? Just wondering. |
tomchristie22 09.03.2012 17:29 |
Oh, I see. I've never listened to the whole track |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 09.03.2012 18:30 |
How about "I'm naked and I'm far from home"? That one always gave me the creeps, heh. And what about "Oh, fear for your life; Deceive you not the fires of hell will take you; Should death await you"? Oh, my... LOL |
tomchristie22 09.03.2012 18:52 |
There seem to be conflicting ideas of what the original poster meant by 'tragic'. I took it as tragic as in heartbreaking, though it also could've meant really badly written lyrics. |
Your Fairy King 09.03.2012 19:57 |
STELIOS wrote: My vote goes to the "Mama Please Let Me Back Inside" verse of Mother Love. I find it to be highly tragic to the extent of slightly disturbing. In the fear of death as Freddie lets go he pleads for a returning back to the womb. Back to the safety of mama to take him in again. This is heavy, very heavy stuff from a man looking directly to the abyss.this entire song is the nadir of cornball Queen lyrics to me. |
Your Fairy King 09.03.2012 20:02 |
Everything from 1980 onward was tragic IMO. |
MadTheSwine73 09.03.2012 20:21 |
Your Fairy King wrote: Everything from 1980 onward was tragic IMO. I'm not sure if that's supposed to be a joke, or if you're serious. If it's a joke, it's rather humorous. If not, please enlighten us. |
waunakonor 09.03.2012 21:12 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote:Yeah, dude, there was some good stuff in the '80s, even though it was generally not as strong as the '70s. Also, Mother Love is amazing. I don't see what the problem with it is; it's beautiful and heartbreaking how Freddie was dying when he recorded it.Your Fairy King wrote: Everything from 1980 onward was tragic IMO.I'm not sure if that's supposed to be a joke, or if you're serious.If it's a joke, it's rather humorous.If not, please enlighten us. |
waunakonor 09.03.2012 21:14 |
tomchristie22 wrote: There seem to be conflicting ideas of what the original poster meant by 'tragic'. I took it as tragic as in heartbreaking, though it also could've meant really badly written lyrics.Yeah, pretty sure he meant heartbreaking. Some people on here just want to take everything as a joke, though. Oh well... |
Bo Rhap 10.03.2012 01:27 |
Sail Away Sweet Sister is a heartbreaker too |
Stelios 10.03.2012 03:07 |
Tragic as in heartbreaking.That is what the original poster meant by 'tragic'.I think it was pretty obvious through my first post via "mama pls let me back inside" intepretation. |
Stelios 10.03.2012 03:18 |
Your Fairy King wrote:Cornball? Come on!!!Give Freddie ( and Brian) a brake.STELIOS wrote: My vote goes to the "Mama Please Let Me Back Inside" verse of Mother Love. I find it to be highly tragic to the extent of slightly disturbing. In the fear of death as Freddie lets go he pleads for a returning back to the womb. Back to the safety of mama to take him in again. This is heavy, very heavy stuff from a man looking directly to the abyss.this entire song is the nadir of cornball Queen lyrics to me. He tried to be the hero for quite a lot of time. Its noble and human that in the very end he chose to express without a mask his heavy sad road to the end. |
brENsKi 10.03.2012 03:54 |
waunakonor wrote: As mentioned above, it's from the untitled track 13 of Made in Heaven, you know, the one that just goes on and on and on and on...it's kind of a pretty thing that I believe is supposed to represent the afterlife, though I don't know if "Are you running?" is as simple as what brENsKI is suggesting or if there's more backstory to it. Anyway, I kind of like it, even though it makes me kind of sad. .the track 13 "arrangement" and the freddie "are you running" sample were NOT recorded at the same time... track 13 was (we assume) Brian/Roger/John's musical impression of the journey into the afterlife. the freddie "are we running" snippet came (i believe) from the innuendo and post-innuendo sessions - where they would record anything and everything whenever Freddie felt well enough to sing. There are other similar "Freddie snippets" similar to "are we running" - on ei recall is his self-mocking when he knew he was very ill - he said soemthing like "oh! get on with it, before i forget my name"... "are we running" logically - from Freddie's perspective has nothing more than him checking the tape was rolling... however, if you were to enquire with Brian as to his/John/Roger's reasons for putting it into track 13 they may well say that the track symbolized a journey into the afterlife and they used that bit of freddie for atmospheric and symbollic effect. in much the same way that they used "one vision" "wembley adlibs" "goin' back", and baby noises at the end of mother love. imo there shouldn't have been a track 13. esp as i seem to recall a reference to the "fab" at the end as being only right and fitting that the final words on a queen recording would be by freddie... didn't happen did it? i think motherlove was the natural ending, and should've been the final track |
brENsKi 10.03.2012 04:02 |
plumrach wrote: Mother love where he sings I long for peace before i diespot on. cos many will interpret this about world peace and melting pots and some blue-sky aspirational bollox about a brotherhood of man... but the reality is about freddie with respect to himself and those around him...his friends, bandmates and family... ie - inner peace and the (impossible) adjustment and acceptance of what was happening and living with it graciously til his time was up. and his friends and family coming to terms with it and living with it also there may have been another caustic edge to the "long for peace" line ...still about freddie and his friends and family, and still impossible to achieve. a dig at the media - a "for heaven's sake, leave us alone" |
pma 10.03.2012 05:33 |
STELIOS wrote: Tragic as in heartbreaking.That is what the original poster meant by 'tragic'.I think it was pretty obvious through my first post via "mama pls let me back inside" intepretation.What? I am only interested in what Aristotle meant by 'tragic', all other definitions and the uses of 'tragic' are hereby outlawed as abominations. |
Stelios 10.03.2012 08:18 |
pma wrote:Well since i am Greek myshelf the word tragic came easy to my mind (instead of very sad for example)but not thinking actually the Aristotle definition. In modern Greek we use the term to define either heartbeaking or ridiculous. I went with the first.STELIOS wrote: Tragic as in heartbreaking.That is what the original poster meant by 'tragic'.I think it was pretty obvious through my first post via "mama pls let me back inside" intepretation.What? I am only interested in what Aristotle meant by 'tragic', all other definitions and the uses of 'tragic' are hereby outlawed as abominations. |
Stelios 10.03.2012 08:23 |
brENsKi wrote:Well not so many brENsKi.Its just me who tries to dig a little deeper here. At least i give it a try.plumrach wrote: Mother love where he sings I long for peace before i diespot on. cos many will interpret this about world peace and melting pots and some blue-sky aspirational bollox about a brotherhood of man... but the reality is about freddie with respect to himself and those around him...his friends, bandmates and family... ie - inner peace and the (impossible) adjustment and acceptance of what was happening and living with it graciously til his time was up. and his friends and family coming to terms with it and living with it also there may have been another caustic edge to the "long for peace" line ...still about freddie and his friends and family, and still impossible to achieve. a dig at the media - a "for heaven's sake, leave us alone" |
thomasquinn 32989 10.03.2012 08:46 |
The lyrics to "Sweet Lady". It's an utter tragedy that they decided to release those. |
Sheer Brass Neck 10.03.2012 08:57 |
Sweet Lady is great. There is sweet cheese. Freddie's delivery is tongue in cheek and honest. |
DaveyLane 10.03.2012 09:24 |
I can't believe no-one has mentioned All Dead, All Dead. Anyone who is an animal lover and has a pet they love (and knowing the back story of the song) must be moved by this. The only Queen song that can reduce me to tears (depending on how fragile I'm feeling!) |
Fly away 10.03.2012 13:04 |
Hard to beat the Mother Love lyric. I would also suggest: "I used to bring you sunshine, now all I ever do is bring you down" |
dive2063 10.03.2012 16:37 |
There's no chance for us, It's all decided for us ... Who dares to love forever? When love must die |
waunakonor 11.03.2012 10:35 |
brENsKi wrote:Thanks, I figured it was something like that. I kind of like Track 13, though, it actually does mean something to me, and it's quite soothing to listen to (besides one bit in the middle that sounds like something hitting the ground, and makes me jump every time)waunakonor wrote: As mentioned above, it's from the untitled track 13 of Made in Heaven, you know, the one that just goes on and on and on and on...it's kind of a pretty thing that I believe is supposed to represent the afterlife, though I don't know if "Are you running?" is as simple as what brENsKI is suggesting or if there's more backstory to it. Anyway, I kind of like it, even though it makes me kind of sad. .the track 13 "arrangement" and the freddie "are you running" sample were NOT recorded at the same time... track 13 was (we assume) Brian/Roger/John's musical impression of the journey into the afterlife. the freddie "are we running" snippet came (i believe) from the innuendo and post-innuendo sessions - where they would record anything and everything whenever Freddie felt well enough to sing. There are other similar "Freddie snippets" similar to "are we running" - on ei recall is his self-mocking when he knew he was very ill - he said soemthing like "oh! get on with it, before i forget my name"... "are we running" logically - from Freddie's perspective has nothing more than him checking the tape was rolling... however, if you were to enquire with Brian as to his/John/Roger's reasons for putting it into track 13 they may well say that the track symbolized a journey into the afterlife and they used that bit of freddie for atmospheric and symbollic effect. in much the same way that they used "one vision" "wembley adlibs" "goin' back", and baby noises at the end of mother love. imo there shouldn't have been a track 13. esp as i seem to recall a reference to the "fab" at the end as being only right and fitting that the final words on a queen recording would be by freddie... didn't happen did it? i think motherlove was the natural ending, and should've been the final track DaveyLane wrote: I can't believe no-one has mentioned All Dead, All Dead. Anyone who is an animal lover and has a pet they love (and knowing the back story of the song) must be moved by this. The only Queen song that can reduce me to tears (depending on how fragile I'm feeling!)Good point, never even thought about that. |
tomchristie22 13.03.2012 03:35 |
All Dead, I forgot about that. While it's about a cat, 'please you must forgive me, I am old but still a child' is still quite touching/depressing. |
tcc 13.03.2012 10:16 |
Toe your line and play their game yeah Let the anaesthetic cover it all Till one day they call your name You know it's time for the hammer to fall |
malicedoom 13.03.2012 11:36 |
Yeah, can't deny My Melancholy Blues and All Dead, All Dead... my bad. |
Queen4ever13 13.03.2012 16:05 |
White queen how my heart did ache and dry my lips no words would make so still I wait - very poignant melody. The Show Must Go On gives me chills, especially the end when "go on" repeats like a broken record. You can't turn back the clock, you can't turn back the tide ain't that a shame? You really feel Freddie's regret that he can't, but it has to be Mother Love, so so sad Freddie's very last emotions. I can't even bring myself to buy their last album(CD) because I don't want to cry listening to it. |
Queen4ever13 13.03.2012 16:12 |
Yes, who wants to live forever, it has to one of Queen's most touching songs Freddie sings it with such emotion, so pretty. Also Love of My Life it just gets to you. Is this the World We Created is beautiful too. Oh God, you can't just pick one! No One But You (Only the Good Die Young)definitely makes me cry. You can see Freddie looking down smiling at them singing it. |
mardow 13.03.2012 22:14 |
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mardow 13.03.2012 22:19 |
I find it hard to believe that no one has mentioned the double intendre in "Too much love will kill you every time." Talk about tragic. |
looblue 14.03.2012 07:29 |
Surprised no one mentioned "Bijou". Heartbreaking words amd melody. |