QueenZone discussion #1301030
So If I Want Insurance Paying for My Birth Control..
| StoneColdClassicQueen 02.03.2012 22:25 |
I'm a slut or prostitute? If you haven't heard already, a Georgetown University law student named Sandra Fluke spoke before a congressional panel about the new policy by the Obama adminstration saying that employees of religiously affiliated institutions have access to birth control. She said that since her school (a Jesuit school) won't cover for her contraception, she pays up to $1000 (other sources say $3000) a year for it. Rush Limbaugh, an uneducated radio host, said this: “What does it say about the college coed Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex. What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.” link Personally, I'm part of a free birth control program at my school. I'm not ashamed of it nor should I be. I feel sorry not for us women, but for this uneducated little prick who thinks that women use birth control purely for sex. During my earlier adolescent years, I had emotional instability, especially before and during those times of the month. I had to see counselors and had emotional breakdowns in front of my peers and some teachers. I really was ashamed to the brink of suicide because I felt like I couldn't control my emotions or actions. I felt like my mind was my own hell. Luckily, once I started college, I found out they had a free birth control program. I started it last October and now I'm starting to feel normal again. Sure, I still have my moments, but I'm not as anxious or distressed as I used to be. If this little bitch thinks that women use birth control for sex, he's dead wrong. My life is so much better with it. Yeah I'm only 19, but this is the first time in my life where I've felt like I'm getting back to where I used to be. I'm not a slut or prostitute. I'm in a monogamous relationship and have been since I was 16 (young I know, but it's working out so far :]) This misogynstic old geezer should just be canceled. If this is the shit that people in my country are listening to, my only hope is that they do their research. Birth control helps millions of women everywhere and I'm not going to let ignorant people like him judge me for it. Birth control also helps women with cysts, controlling periods, acne, and so much more. I guess this hits me not only because I use it, but because this is my life goal as well. My number one goal in my future career will be to further decrease teen pregnancy rates in the U.S. since we still have a high rate as an industrialized nation. In light of the recent tirade made, I have a need to ask.. What is your take on this? (Yes, humorous and sarcastic takes are welcome! I'll differentiate!) |
| john bodega 02.03.2012 23:24 |
*shrug* I'm a slut. I'm not getting any, but I'm still totally one. |
| StoneColdClassicQueen 03.03.2012 00:30 |
XD ahahahaha cool! You're one of my mah favorite posters so it is quite the honor to get a reply from you :P I just really couldn't believe what I heard when I heard this guy talk all this crap I don't think you're a slut :] But I guess each to his or her own right? |
| john bodega 03.03.2012 01:12 |
I'm really only one 'in theory' these days. This is far from being the first time that Rush Limbaugh has outed himself as a complete moron, so I haven't really paid much attention to this story. I don't exactly think less of anyone who will agree with or defend what he's saying; like his admission of idiocy, it's simply their way of admitting that they have no grasp on reality. One can only hope these people grow up someday. |
| YourValentine 03.03.2012 03:33 |
I think you should not even spend your time thinking about what Rush Limbaugh says. He is clearly a narrow-minded, uneducated jerk. Apart from that there are some things in your post I do not understand: First of all I do not understand who has to pay for the contraceptives of employees? Usually, your health care pays or does not pay for contraceptives. Secondly I do not understand where the costs of 1000$ come from. Contraceptives cost between 5 -20 € per month plus the prescription of your doctor but the doctor should be covered by health insurance. Thirdly, I do not understand why you get contraceptives to treat your emotional instability, how does that work? I am not a doctor but most women know that emotional instabilty in connection with the monthly cyclus is usuallly a result of a progesterone deficiency (I looked the English term up, I hope it is correct). I have never heard of contraceptive pills that substitute progesterone, how can they work for you? Contraceptives help to regulate the cyclus and to reduce monthly bleeding and pain etc but they cannot help you when you suffer from lack of progesterone. Anyway, I hope you get well and always get all the birth control you want. Women always had to fight for their right to decide for themselves - do not let anyone tell you what you should and should not do. Mainly - you never need to explain to anyone if and why you use birth control, it's your body and your life - it is nobody's business but yours. |
| catqueen 03.03.2012 05:47 |
Don't listen to Rush Limbaugh maybe lol. Its sad though when someone who has influence uses it to spout nonsense like that. And i'm sure he would also be complaining if young pregnant girls were given help and support by the state. I think its fine if contraceptives are available free to kids -- its a much better alternative to kids having to go for abortions and getting STIs. |
| StoneColdClassicQueen 03.03.2012 09:40 |
YourValentine, I pretty much had PMS interfering with my life I never realized it until I noticed my moods change. During my PMS, I was 1,000,000 times more emotional than I should have been. My judgement was clouded and I said and did terrible things to others :( It wasn't your average PMS emotional stage. I would get severely depressed if I had another event in my life plus PMS. I got suicidal too. When I started birth control, I noticed a change in myself. I don't suffer from PMS anymore, probably because I'm regulating the hormones and my period.. I will just get maybe a pimple or a cramp and that's all! I'm a much happier and more rational person, considering the fact I only started months ago! It really was awful and to not have to have the symptoms I had before is such a load off my shoulders!! Thank you for the replies! |
| Saint Jiub 03.03.2012 10:59 |
Hmmm ... Rush has had no children with his multiple young wives. Either he is shooting blanks or he should start uploading porn immediately. Surely a devout conservative "christian" such as himself would not submit to an immoral snip-snip operation or consort with sluts that use birth control. |
| GratefulFan 03.03.2012 12:09 |
YourValentine wrote: First of all I do not understand who has to pay for the contraceptives of employees? Usually, your health care pays or does not pay for contraceptives. In the US, health care can be provided as a benefit of employment and in this case does not move with you between different employers. So employees may have different plans and coverages depending on where they work. The same is true in Canada for extended benefits. Prescription drugs, dental care, eye examinations for adults, semi-private hospital rooms, glasses, physiotherapy and other medical or paramedical services are often not covered under the provincial health care plans. These services are either paid out of pocket by the people who want them, purchased through private insurance or, most commonly, provided as a benefit of employment by your employer. |
| GratefulFan 03.03.2012 15:36 |
I'm wondering if I've misunderstood YV's question and carefully explained something glaringly obvious and largely universal. :) Perhaps the piece that was missing for YV is the recently proposed mandate that all employer plans must provide contraception to their employees whether or not they had in the past. Unless there is a politically genius angle to this I'm missingit seemed to be an immediate mistake. Many, many Americans from across the political spectrum immediately flipped out and saw this as an intrusion on religious freedom and a heavy handed use of government. So Obama backed down and the compromise was that religion based organizations did not have to include contraception in their company health care plans, but women working for these organizations still had to receive the benefit at no extra cost from the insurance company in a privately arranged transaction. So that would see insurance companies paying for contraception they have collected no premiums for. The argument has been that it is cost neutral for insurance companies because they avoid the costs of pregnancy and childbirth, but the opposing political argument is that they fully expect insurance companies to recoup costs by increasing premiums across the board for everyone. The same would apply in a mandated free college program through the health coverage offered to their students. So Rush is not really attacking the use of birth control per se, but the ever present boogeyman of 'socialism'. Because women lobbying for this benefit are expecting 'somebody else to pick up the tab' for this welfare style 'entitlement', they have been likened to prostitutes who expect to be compensated for having sex. The appeal of the argument and the man certainly escape me. So hope that wasn't another long paragraph of the glaringly obvious. :). |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2012 19:09 |
Panchgani wrote: Hmmm ... Rush has had no children with his multiple young wives. Either he is shooting blanks or he should start uploading porn immediately.HA! There's my laugh for the day. Eye thank you. |
| Winter Land Man 04.03.2012 13:04 |
StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: I'm a slut or prostitute? If you haven't heard already, a Georgetown University law student named Sandra Fluke spoke before a congressional panel about the new policy by the Obama adminstration saying that employees of religiously affiliated institutions have access to birth control. She said that since her school (a Jesuit school) won't cover for her contraception, she pays up to $1000 (other sources say $3000) a year for it. Rush Limbaugh, an uneducated radio host, said this: “What does it say about the college coed Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex. What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.” link Personally, I'm part of a free birth control program at my school. I'm not ashamed of it nor should I be. I feel sorry not for us women, but for this uneducated little prick who thinks that women use birth control purely for sex. During my earlier adolescent years, I had emotional instability, especially before and during those times of the month. I had to see counselors and had emotional breakdowns in front of my peers and some teachers. I really was ashamed to the brink of suicide because I felt like I couldn't control my emotions or actions. I felt like my mind was my own hell. Luckily, once I started college, I found out they had a free birth control program. I started it last October and now I'm starting to feel normal again. Sure, I still have my moments, but I'm not as anxious or distressed as I used to be. If this little bitch thinks that women use birth control for sex, he's dead wrong. My life is so much better with it. Yeah I'm only 19, but this is the first time in my life where I've felt like I'm getting back to where I used to be. I'm not a slut or prostitute. I'm in a monogamous relationship and have been since I was 16 (young I know, but it's working out so far :]) This misogynstic old geezer should just be canceled. If this is the shit that people in my country are listening to, my only hope is that they do their research. Birth control helps millions of women everywhere and I'm not going to let ignorant people like him judge me for it. Birth control also helps women with cysts, controlling periods, acne, and so much more. I guess this hits me not only because I use it, but because this is my life goal as well. My number one goal in my future career will be to further decrease teen pregnancy rates in the U.S. since we still have a high rate as an industrialized nation. In light of the recent tirade made, I have a need to ask.. What is your take on this? (Yes, humorous and sarcastic takes are welcome! I'll differentiate!)Someone broke into my cousin's house and took his pornos. |
| YourValentine 05.03.2012 02:41 |
I am glad you feel so much better now, SCCQ! @ GratefulFan - I did not know about these employer plans. In Germany we have a mandatory health care for all employees who earn less than 51 000 € per year. (if you earn more you can pick private insurance companies). All employees can choose between hundreds of insurance companies who provide the mandatory insurance. Employers pay half of the premium but have no say which company you pick. Contraceptives are not covered by any insurance unless the doctor prescribes them for treatment of an illness like in the case of SCCQ. Women who live on social security can apply for social security to pay for the costs. However, the doctor's bill is always covered and women only pay for the pills which cost about 5-20 euros per month. Actually, I would not want my employer to know which doctor I see and which medication I take, anyway. |
| GratefulFan 05.03.2012 11:35 |
There are strict privacy regulations in place that protect private health information from employers. They best they might get is totally anonymous non-identifying aggregate data on which to make policy decisions. For example a company which is paying high premiums for a professional massage benefit that has low general usage may use that knowledge to shift the premium to enhance a benefit that would be more useful to employees. Interesting to hear how universal health care is structured in Germany. I don't really know much about any other country's policies other than my own and the United States. I have some vague sense that heath care is completely government run in the UK. This is different than Canada in that health care is publicly funded, but privately delivered, and of course different than the US where outside of Medicare and Medicaid it is both funded and delivered privately. |
| mooghead 05.03.2012 12:15 |
Keep your knees together. Easy. :-) |
| The Real Wizard 05.03.2012 15:13 |
Are there honestly people who still believe birth control pills have only one function? |
| john bodega 06.03.2012 01:23 |
Exactly. This one time, E.T was outside my house and I needed a way to lure him in, but I didn't have any MMs, so I just used birth control pills. Long story short, that alien had one sore fuckin' tummy the next day. |
| GratefulFan 06.03.2012 12:06 |
Oh that made me laugh. Somebody should TOTALLY reimagine ET on video substituting M & M's for all manner of pills. We could have ET: Birth Control and ET: Prozac and ET: Cialis. I loved that movie. This would make me love it even more. |
| catqueen 09.03.2012 12:23 |
GratefulFan wrote: Oh that made me laugh. Somebody should TOTALLY reimagine ET on video substituting M & M's for all manner of pills. We could have ET: Birth Control and ET: Prozac and ET: Cialis. I loved that movie. This would make me love it even more.One for the b-movies thread? |