QueenZone discussion #1300843

GratefulFan wrote: and don't actually know what I'm talking about.

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: and don't actually know what I'm talking about.

I've known this about you for quite some time.

GratefulFan wrote: 10. Your head is so far up your own ass you can see out your mouth.  This compromising anatomical situation was made infamous with the 1994 death of Brazilian race car driver Ayrton Senna, who died while driving in the position in Imola, Italy.  The coroner, Gianni Fuch, determined that swelling from recent dental work caused Senna to see the second curve too late. Fuch was personally devastated by the unnecessary nature of Senna's death and has made it a life mission to spread awareness about the dangers of the position. Among other things, it greatly impairs hearing, so upon remedy all previous audio impressions should be reevaluated. So for Fuch's sake, get your head out of your ass and listen to Adam Lambert again.

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote:and don't actually know what I'm talking about.

I've known this about you for quite some time.

Wow you've gone from someone trying to shut down any conversation he doesn't like, to just trolling after Grateful Fan and hurling insults. Sad.

GratefulFan wrote: Oh I really couldn't waunakonor. But I'm glad to have helped! Please send it to my favourite charity: "Get Our Adam Back to Broadway Where he Belongs" 8899 Broken Crystal Avenue Beverly Hills, CA 90210 USA

Michael Allred wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote:and don't actually know what I'm talking about.

I've known this about you for quite some time.

Wow you've gone from someone trying to shut down any conversation he doesn't like, to just trolling after Grateful Fan and hurling insults. Sad.

First, fuck you cunt. Second, I'm trolling all of a sudden? I'm hurling insults? Oh! I'm the ONLY one doing that, gotcha. This is all occuring in a vacuum. You are fucking delusional.

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote:and don't actually know what I'm talking about.

I've known this about you for quite some time.

Wow you've gone from someone trying to shut down any conversation he doesn't like, to just trolling after Grateful Fan and hurling insults. Sad.

First, fuck you cunt.Second, I'm trolling all of a sudden? I'm hurling insults? Oh! I'm the ONLY one doing that, gotcha. This is all occuring in a vacuum.You are fucking delusional.

lol! Basically that's all you do, in a nutshell. Thanks for proving it again trollboy.

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote:and don't actually know what I'm talking about.

I've known this about you for quite some time.

Wow you've gone from someone trying to shut down any conversation he doesn't like, to just trolling after Grateful Fan and hurling insults. Sad.

First, fuck you cunt.Second, I'm trolling all of a sudden? I'm hurling insults? Oh! I'm the ONLY one doing that, gotcha. This is all occuring in a vacuum.You are fucking delusional.

Give 'em enough rope and they always hang themselves. lol

Holly2003 wrote: That's all you've got? Oh dear...

Michael Allred wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: That's all you've got? Oh dear...

Hoping you'll off yourself? Yeah, that's pretty much it really. So, have you set a date yet? I'd like to know when to have the champagne ready.

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:That's all you've got? Oh dear...

Hoping you'll off yourself? Yeah, that's pretty much it really. So, have you set a date yet? I'd like to know when to have the champagne ready.

You've completely lost the plot. Like I said ... sad as fuck.

GratefulFan wrote: Holy Jesus Christ.  YOU are delusional.  This scorched earth policy mowing over anything and anybody in your path over Adam freaking Lambert is cracked.  Resigning from QOL, posting unintentionally hilarious threads at Adam Lambert Official and losing your shit here like a freaking mental patient cannot be worth it in the long run. Shocking.  Embarrassing.

Holly2003 wrote: What a classy guy.

Donna13 wrote: The most important thing to keep in mind here is that we all like Queen's music. That doesn't mean we have to agree on everything. The whole beauty of a forum is to not only have the benefit of getting something expressed from our point of view but also to be able to hear another person. If this is too upsetting then it is best to walk away and cool off. Take some time to do other things that you enjoy and remember that just because you are away from whatever debate is going on at the time, it is not the same as giving up your position. Now, on topic, I wanted to ask GratefulFan if my early childhood exposure to Elvis movies on TV might have anything to do with my quick acceptance of Adam.

Donna13 wrote: I am not talking about anyone in particular. When I said "you" what I meant was "we" or people in general.

waunakonor wrote: Ooh! Look, guys! I can do what Michael Allred does, watch! Grateful Fan, you're a cunt and a fucking bag of shit holly, I have a firey, burning eternal hatred for you and your stupid face. Get out of here you fucking ass. matt z, everything you say is possibly the dumbest, shittiest comments I've ever seen. Why do you even try. Michael Allred, you're awesome. Queen sucks, all hail Justin Bieber, supreme god of music. See, I can be a troll too! I am just SO--DAMN--CLEVER! (PS, GF, holly and MZ can just ignore what I've said above. I've never really been the hateful trolling type who randomly hates on people who have really done nothing wrong. Michael Allred, on the other hand...)

Zebonka12 wrote: Cretinous.

Michael Allred wrote: You bring out the best in me. Cocksuckers like you need a smack in the face so you can realize just how far you've fallen. A wake-me-up if you will. Unfortunately you actually think it's about Adam Lambert which shows the complete disconnect you have. It's about your(and others online) reaction TO a couple of fucking concerts. Don't you get it? Are you truly that clueless? Wake the fuck up you mindless twat. There are loads of things "unintentionally hilarious" in this life. Example: your ability to ever please another human being sexually.

GratefulFan wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: You bring out the best in me. Cocksuckers like you need a smack in the face so you can realize just how far you've fallen. A wake-me-up if you will. Unfortunately you actually think it's about Adam Lambert which shows the complete disconnect you have.It's about your(and others online) reaction TO a couple of fucking concerts. Don't you get it? Are you truly that clueless? Wake the fuck up you mindless twat.There are loads of things "unintentionally hilarious" in this life. Example: your ability to ever please another human being sexually.

I've got zip to do with your OCD riddled cretinism.  Pretty lofty goal trying to control the whole internet from your house. Weepingly ridiculous and completely crazy, but lofty.  Good luck with it all.  And with the delusional grandiosity. Plus the humiliating over-investment .  Oh and that dungy mouth too.

GratefulFan wrote: Was that for me?  I'll pretend it is. I think I've written about three sentences about the concert overall. There was about an hour and twenty minutes one day last week where I cared about the concert. I'm over it. I poked fun at Adam Lambert before all this, I'm poking fun at him now, and I'll almost certainly be poking fun at him in the future. Because I hate the way he sings and I despair at the inflated celebrity. That's about all there is to it.Edited for snippiness.

Zebonka12 wrote: Come now, at least try to compete with someone on an intellectual level for a change. You won't like hearing this, but my position on this gig is rather unassailable - it's not worth giving two shits about it really, and if we're lucky something nice might come of it. What more is there to say?

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: Was that for me?  I'll pretend it is. I think I've written about three sentences about the concert overall. There was about an hour and twenty minutes one day last week where I cared about the concert. I'm over it. I poked fun at Adam Lambert before all this, I'm poking fun at him now, and I'll almost certainly be poking fun at him in the future. Because I hate the way he sings and I despair at the inflated celebrity. That's about all there is to it.Edited for snippiness.

You don't like the way someone sings so you mock him. Bravo! You must get frustrated at the guy in the wheelchair cuz you hate how it slows down your day so you'll mock him too. Congrats! You're just as petty and shallow as I thought you were.

Michael Allred wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote: Come now, at least try to compete with someone on an intellectual level for a change. You won't like hearing this, but my position on this gig is rather unassailable - it's not worth giving two shits about it really, and if we're lucky something nice might come of it. What more is there to say?

It's one thing to look at it critically, then put it into words why you don't like it, etc etc. That's not what fans did. They went ballistic both here and at that other cesspool. I decided to take that same mentality and use it against them. Then I laughed at their own self righteous reaction to it. This "how dare you say that to me?" bullshit, the utter shock at being insulted when that was the very thing they were doing in the first place. It was an entertaining exercise but it's run it's course now.

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote:Was that for me?  I'll pretend it is. I think I've written about three sentences about the concert overall. There was about an hour and twenty minutes one day last week where I cared about the concert. I'm over it. I poked fun at Adam Lambert before all this, I'm poking fun at him now, and I'll almost certainly be poking fun at him in the future. Because I hate the way he sings and I despair at the inflated celebrity. That's about all there is to it.Edited for snippiness.

You don't like the way someone sings so you mock him. Bravo! You must get frustrated at the guy in the wheelchair cuz you hate how it slows down your day so you'll mock him too. Congrats!You're just as petty and shallow as I thought you were.

Err.. no. You have a warped sense of reality if you draw those conclusions. As for petty and shallow, a grown man wetting himself at the prospect of Adam Lambert fronting Queen, and then hurling insults at those who ahve a different point of view -- that's the definition of petty and shallow -- and sad as fuck.

Holly2003 wrote: Tha's the kind of transparently fake excuse trolls like you usually come up with to excuse their misogynistic, abusive behaviour. Just give it a rest and stop making a bigger arse of yourself than you already have.

Zebonka12 wrote: "It's one thing to look at it critically" You seem to be ignoring criticisms you don't agree with. Granted the whole thing is subjective, but a significant number of people identified what they felt were flaws with Adam Lambert's previous effort with Queen (I'm ignoring those prats who were simply 'who is this fag', which I mean -do I even have to point out the flaw in logic there?). But there are real identifiable characteristics in Lambert's last attempt a Queen show that can (and have) caused people notable distress. I'm not making that up and I'm not saying it to be contrary. I genuinely reckon the guy has the range and the control to make a proper go at this level of music, and it *infuriates* me and frankly insults my sensibility to hear him cock it up. I actually want nothing more than for someone to get up and deliver, and when it doesn't happen (as was the case last time) it pisses me off. What I'd like most of all is for him to prove me wrong and do a good show. Failing that, I'd just like a couple of surprises (I refer again to Brian putting Bijou out there in '08) and to hear Brian and Roger do what they're supposed to be doing. Preferably with Dappy on the other side of a electrified fence.

Michael Allred wrote:

Then you have others who rip into them with reckless abandon (but gasp when I did it to them)

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Then you have others who rip into them with reckless abandon (but gasp when I did it to them)

You are either in a deluded state or just an outright liar. Neither myself or GF have ever called Brian May a "cunt", for example, orsuggested that he commit suicide. That's your behaviour, not ours.

GratefulFan wrote: The thing about reality is that for those paying attention it's not going to bend too far to accommodate self-serving and frankly laughable justifications for absurd behaviour or the grandiose intolerance that fueled it.  It's not going to scooch over so anybody can reimagine the record either.  The vast majority of people supported their objections in significant detail,often multiple times, on multiple threads, including sometimes why the reality show path can matter.  Musicians and entertainers implicitly contract for critics by virtue of their career choice.  Nothing could be more predictable or mundane.  To respond to it by stalking opposing opinion  with baiting and bizarrely disproportionate attacks for the singular purpose of disruption and asserting your right to crap on the right of somebody else to have a thought and a conversation is not mundane.  It's skewed and entitled.  There was ZERO discrimination for who had thoughtfully laid out their opposition and who hadn't, making you either dishonest or deluded.  Being so fundamentally unable to deal with something so intrinsic to internet forums as an opposing opinion that you have to leave one forum completely and make up fairy stories at the other one to support impossibly thin excuses for shitty behaviour is something else for sure.  Several people will have noticed by this point.  Maybe stop digging now.

Michael Allred wrote: and when exactly did I say that either of you said those things? I said "rip into them." Get your fucking facts straight.

GratefulFan wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: and when exactly did I say that either of you said those things? I said "rip into them." Get your fucking facts straight.

Your whole trip is the supposed equivalency of the actions you're 'avenging' .  Try to keep your flaky story straight.

Michael Allred wrote: Keep trying to validate yourself and excuse your own behavior. I called you on it, I gave you a heaping dose of it back and you didn't like it. Good. Glad it left a bitter taste in your mouth.

Michael Allred wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

Then you have others who rip into them with reckless abandon (but gasp when I did it to them)

You are either in a deluded state or just an outright liar. Neither myself or GF have ever called Brian May a "cunt", for example, orsuggested that he commit suicide. That's your behaviour, not ours.

and when exactly did I say that either of you said those things? I said "rip into them." Get your fucking facts straight.

Michael Allred wrote: "avenging" is it? Anyway the point of that post was, if you're going to say I said something, make sure I actually said it instead of just making shit up. Also - I never said anything about "equivalency." You are literally making things up as you go along. Hilarious!

GratefulFan wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: Keep trying to validate yourself and excuse your own behavior. I called you on it, I gave you a heaping dose of it back and you didn't like it. Good. Glad it left a bitter taste in your mouth.

I don't have any behaviour that needs an excuse.  That idea orginates in your addled, entitled head.  Look at the bright side.  At least you have one less forum to mange from central control there in Michigan.  If I were you I'd be leaping at that gift of grown man wetting his pants over Adam Lambert, because the reality seems to be a hell of a lot worse than that.