| Mercuryking 16.02.2012 18:22 |
My version of somebody to love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsmxBARTf4 |
| The Real Wizard 16.02.2012 20:36 |
Stop spamming. One thread is enough. |
| john bodega 17.02.2012 00:09 |
Do you actually want us to say what we think of the video, or would you just like to tell us all that we don't know what we're talking about? |
| Gregsynth 17.02.2012 00:33 |
Love the gurgling and the notes in-between notes! |
| Mercuryking 17.02.2012 01:25 |
This relationship reminds me of a movie called Ground hogs day, anyone seen it? :D |
| inu-liger 17.02.2012 02:34 |
Dear god, just...no. You cannot even stay in tune! |
| Mercuryking 17.02.2012 02:42 |
Thats not true at all, i just compared it simultaneously with the original and it is not out of tune. Try it |
| inu-liger 17.02.2012 02:57 |
Actually, it is very true. Our resident pitch-perfect analyzer Gregsynth can easily back me up and show you where (pretty much all over your recording) you're hitting wrong notes or singing in the wrong key and even name the specific notes you're singing. So don't even argue with me, you idiot :) |
| john bodega 17.02.2012 09:34 |
Well I've saved a copy. |
| Mercuryking 17.02.2012 10:20 |
Its true i dont argue with idiots:D check your ears dude |
| inu-liger 17.02.2012 15:19 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Its true i dont argue with idiots:D Well at least now we can rest assured you don't argue with yourself like you have split personality disorder |
| The Real Wizard 17.02.2012 17:49 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Its true i dont argue with idiots:D check your ears dudeThey're an idiot because they correctly pointed out that you have pitch issues? Very few singers can pull off Queen songs, and you're not one of them. Try covering songs by another artist that aren't as challenging and you might appear to be a better singer than this video suggests. But again, since when have you ever taken advice from a professional? You've always been right, and look how far it's gotten you .. |
| Mercuryking 17.02.2012 18:13 |
Never said that this was a pitch perfect version ,but its also one take so and I think its quite good but there's always goin to be negative comments no matter how good it would have been so It's fine . At least I have passion when singing it . |
| inu-liger 17.02.2012 18:37 |
"Thats not true at all, i just compared it simultaneously with the original and it is not out of tune. Try it" VS "Never said that this was a pitch perfect version" Which is it then? There is no room for double standards here, you either acknowledge that you're singing out of pitch OR you keep going on calling us lot a bunch of uneducated morons. As far as I'm concerned, you're only deluding yourself as usual. |
| Mercuryking 17.02.2012 20:36 |
Im still holding onto that its in tune only that its not perfect , so no double standards here |
| Gregsynth 17.02.2012 20:40 |
To keep some dignity intact, all I will say is that if you compare this version with the version from 5/1/1979 (Fukuoka), the Fukuoka version is more on key. |
| Mercuryking 17.02.2012 20:55 |
Ok Greg, Mr I know best :) |
| Mercuryking 17.02.2012 21:48 |
Alright, Greg or anyone else here, i dare you to do a side by side comparison video with the original song and post it so we all can hear how "out of tune" i am. Lets go lets do this, show me how out of pitch i am! |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 01:39 |
No videos necessary. All Greg needs to do is write out a detailed analysis in text form. If you're a REAL musician, you'll understand what he has to say. |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 02:06 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Im still holding onto that its in tune only that its not perfect , so no double standards here It's NOT in tune, you fuck. |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 02:07 |
Hitting flat A Flats does NOT belong in the key, and scooping to B Flat does not work either. Would help to remember ALL the lyrics too. |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 02:08 |
Also, Adam Lambert called. He wants his gurgling sheep back. |
| Gregsynth 18.02.2012 02:11 |
Hitting halfway between Bb4 and B4 doesn't work, and hitting the Eb5 falsetto sharp doesn't work either. |
| Holly2003 18.02.2012 04:13 |
I think it's great. Please make lots more videos and post them on Youtube. |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 05:08 |
That just shows how full of it you are Greg and Inu, if you were so sure of your acclaims you could have done the video comparison, LAME haha. No texts, no telling be about notes just giving a real example comparing it straight to the original song can only prove your point, so until then you guys are just trolling. Thanks holly, want more queen covers? |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 05:35 |
Video comparisons aren't even needed to highlight what a trolling idiot you are to begin with. As usual, your posts speak for themselves. I'm just going to say this, and it should really go without saying, but you are FAR from being in Freddie's league. |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 05:53 |
First of all, NOONE is in Freddie's league, second of all, here i made a side by side video myself to shut you both down, enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0KmgVkYxxE |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 06:19 |
You fail. It's hardly side by side, since you simply mixed the vocals in the center rather than mixing each vocal panned to the left and right channels, so you could attempt to hide your vocal failures. |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 06:36 |
I dont have the tools to do that or else i would, either way , my vocals are higher in volume so im not hiding anything. You can hear freddies is lower in volume. ANYhow, as you can hear in the video it is quite in tune actually. |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 06:46 |
It. Is. NOT. In. Tune. You are so tonedeaf!!!!! |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 07:07 |
Which remaster variant CD did you take the STL track from? I just tried to line yours up against the 2011 remaster to do a proper side-by-side mix, except they don't sync up perfectly. Unless your computer has some hell of a recording latency issue! |
| Djdownsy 18.02.2012 08:01 |
That note before the guitar solo was very sore on the ears, I also listened to your side by side video, it made it even more painful. By the way, you are out of tune, I'd say that's why you havnt put the video up here! |
| Djdownsy 18.02.2012 08:03 |
link I posted it instead! |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 09:22 |
Dj, you should check your eyes cause then you would have seen that i posted it just 6 posts before yours. Have to bear in mind that I ain't got the best Mic or equipment either for vocals , and that its in one take. Inu, I just took the mp3 from YouTube ? It's not out of tune though |
| The Real Wizard 18.02.2012 12:43 |
Gregsynth wrote: To keep some dignity intact, all I will say is that if you compare this version with the version from 5/1/1979 (Fukuoka), the Fukuoka version is more on key.Clearly I am a nerd because I laughed out loud at that one. |
| The Real Wizard 18.02.2012 12:44 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: First of all, NOONE is in Freddie's leagueIncorrect. Many people are in Freddie's league, but it is a very select club. |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 13:03 |
Wizard: your last comment shows me that you know absolutely nothing about music. There is noone on the face of the earth that come close to freddie, noone will ever match him. |
| Thistle 18.02.2012 13:07 |
It's not the worst thing I've ever heard, but it's not great either. I'm no singer, but even sounding like you I wouldn't be posting it online for others to hear. |
| Thistle 18.02.2012 13:08 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Wizard: your last comment shows me that you know absolutely nothing about music. There is noone on the face of the earth that come close to freddie, noone will ever match him.ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzz |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 13:14 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: It's not the worst thing I've ever heard, but it's not great either. I'm no singer, but even sounding like you I wouldn't be posting it online for others to hear.Too bad , either way who cares what you would or should do, I'm me and I like it and it will only get better and better. So I totally disagree with u . |
| The Real Wizard 18.02.2012 14:05 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Wizard: your last comment shows me that you know absolutely nothing about music....coming from someone who once said their own songs are better than The Beatles and Mozart. |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 14:29 |
I never said that , that was my brother that said that. You mix me with him cause he used my account. But saying there are singers like Freddie out there is ridiculous |
| inu-liger 18.02.2012 15:20 |
Your brother did practically speak for the whole band, and seeing as you are just as blatantly ignorant and idiotic as him, no-one will bother discern whose opinion is what, because either way all we hear coming from your mouths is pure shit |
| Mercuryking 18.02.2012 15:38 |
You people are too sensitive , really. Acting like I've killed someone ,lighten up. |
| Hangman_96 18.02.2012 17:59 |
You cunt have made my ears bleed. This happens all the time. I couldn't even watch just a few seconds and so I immediately switched it off. I'll have to report the police so that your fat arse will be finally thrown into jail. |
| The Fairy King 18.02.2012 19:24 |
Can't believe you opened a new thread. :D And i'm not the only one telling you it's out of tune. |
| The Fairy King 18.02.2012 19:28 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: But saying there are singers like Freddie out there is ridiculousReally? So you finally realized you're voice doesn't even come close? And that you have pitch issues? And you're singing out of key? Good, let's put this matter to rest then. |
| inu-liger 19.02.2012 01:27 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: You people are too sensitive , really. Acting like I've killed someone ,lighten up. We're not sensitive. We're being realistic. Your singing SUCKS and needs a LOT more work than you care to admit in order to improve, not that you'll ever in your lifetime admit you're wrong. And likening our criticisms to accusing you of killing people?? Second most ridiculous thing I've heard this week, behind my country's Minister of Public Safety likening opponents of Bill C-30 to being supporters of pedophiles and child pornographers! |
| Gregsynth 19.02.2012 01:56 |
link This is how the song is supposed to be sung. |
| john bodega 19.02.2012 05:55 |
"I never said that , that was my brother that said that" I'm pretty sure you said the same thing at one time or another. You, your brother and your drummer cast all kinds of whack aspersions on some pretty talented artists... I just don't see why. I cannot understand where the hubris comes from. Did your parents fill your heads with these notions as children, or what? Why can't you let the music speak for itself. |
| MadTheSwine73 19.02.2012 15:07 |
Dude, I said I didn't mind your cover in the other thread. But you pissed me off, even when I actually enjoyed the video. You are trying to (somehow) prove Greg wrong, and many other extremely knowledgeable people on this song, and Queen-knowledgeable as well. I'm not saying I'm a living encycolpedia of Queen, but I know my stuff pretty f**king well, and what they all say is right. You are out of key, and you don't always hit the right notes. You also over-sing some parts, like I said in the other thread as well. Look, I'm not saying you suck, but I'm not saying you're great either. I won't do the side-by-side comparison because I don't know how to so that. :D I don't need to either. You're just some kid on the internet. Also, my voice has been shot for a month, and so I sound like a mix of Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen all at once, just when I speak. No one ever said they can do better than you can, and if they did, show me, please. And finally, you're treated like bullsh*t here because you were/are a spammer and a troll. You think your "band" is the new hope for music, when we alredy have it; it's called Dream Theatre, The Foo Fighters, Mumford & Sons, etc. People like Bob, Greg, Brian, Inu-Linger (whose name escapes me at the moment), and even myself, who try to promote and play music from the 60's and 70's. They try and keep the rock legacy alive. All you're doing is crushing it, by thinking you're better. REALITY CHECK: None of us are. |
| Mercuryking 19.02.2012 16:20 |
whatever , i never said that they said they could do better than me so stop putting things in my mouth. My side by side comparison with freddie shows that it is NOT out of tune so whatever dude. This just shows that you are an sheep follower, agreeing all of a sudden with the herd. I dont care what you guys say, im a musician and i know if it would've been out of tune. By the way, the only band i think is good out of the bands you mentioned is Dream theater, the rest sucks and i know im more musical. You call it cocky , i call it the truth, take it as you wish. Stop being such haters,i mean really its pathetic |
| Mercuryking 19.02.2012 16:25 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "I never said that , that was my brother that said that" I'm pretty sure you said the same thing at one time or another. You, your brother and your drummer cast all kinds of whack aspersions on some pretty talented artists... I just don't see why. I cannot understand where the hubris comes from. Did your parents fill your heads with these notions as children, or what? Why can't you let the music speak for itself. Well when you know that your music is good and others make BS claims that it is not, then you should defend it and that is what i do. When you haters make BS claims then you should get treated like that, simple. But the best thing is that your negativity has no real effect cause you can't stop talent, no matter how hard you try. Claiming im out of tune is really funny when i have the side by side comparison with freddie and it fits very well with him so you people should just shut it. |
| MadTheSwine73 19.02.2012 16:43 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: whatever , i never said that they said they could do better than me so stop putting things in my mouth. My side by side comparison with freddie shows that it is NOT out of tune so whatever dude. This just shows that you are an sheep follower, agreeing all of a sudden with the herd. I dont care what you guys say, im a musician and i know if it would've been out of tune. By the way, the only band i think is good out of the bands you mentioned is Dream theater, the rest sucks and i know im more musical. You call it cocky , i call it the truth, take it as you wish. Stop being such haters,i mean really its pathetic ====================================================================================================== Then explain why you "challenged" them to a side-by-side comparison? Does that not at the very least, imply, that you think you're better than them? By the way, I'm not following the herd. I actually enjoyed your cover, but what they say still remains true. I'm not someone who likes to really put people down unless they've pissed me off. You tried to prove Greg wrong, which pissed me off, since Greg and I are good friends, and since he knows STL a heck of a lot better than you do. About the bands, you're a moron. You are not "more musical" than them; if you were, and I know I'm going to regret saying this, but if you were, you'd be the one with 5 Grammys. Now I know, album sales, chart positions and awards don't truly mean anything if you are superior to them, which you are not. You can't just have your own opinion to be considered good. You need others to like you as well. And at this rate, good luck to you my friend. Lastly, I'm not a hater. If I were a hater, I'd just tell you to fuck yourself, and I'd never check the thread again, because I'd think that what you have to say is all important. You are still a human, and so we all have our opinions, and in my opinion, you voice your opinion like a spoiled 5-year old with bad language. |
| inu-liger 19.02.2012 19:20 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I cannot understand where the hubris comes from. Did your parents fill your heads with these notions as children, or what? Why can't you let the music speak for itself.Well they ARE of Iranian background by their own admittance, and unfortunately some Arabic families are VERY proud people who are too stubborn to admit their faults even when several people repeatedly point out to them. No word of a lie, I know a Lebanese man who (incidentally along with one of his brothers) is like that, but to be fair he is a nicer man than the Treasure Moment brothers, who are just pure caricatures of self-egotistical arrogance. Just give it another 10, 15 years, we'll see how far they'll REALLY get by then, if at all ;-) |
| Thistle 19.02.2012 19:33 |
Why look for opinions when you can't be bothered to accept them? Noted that the comment function is disabled on your youtube video. Sad. |
| Mercuryking 20.02.2012 03:39 |
You are funny Mad... Why did i challenge them with a side by side comparison and why didnt i just accept what they said to be true? WHAT?? what is that ? Dictator mentality? Offcourse im going to challenge someone if i think they are wrong, are you kidding me? I KNOW they are all wrong and the side by side video proves it ,in the video you clearly hear that it is not out of tune, sure one or two notes might be slitghly off but hey , im no Mercury so chill out. Look , there is NOTHING wrong with believing in yourself, if you believe you are better than those bands then more power to you. Stop being a victim with a victim mentality, like "who am ito say im better than them" Well they are just like you, only that they have made it, they got their connections and made it thru to the masses but that doesnt mean that they actually are more musical than others. To INU: Im persian im no ARAB and there is a HUGE difference between persian and ARABs, arabian people tend to be greedy and aggressive, we persians are more proud and could be arrogant but hey lookt at freddie, if he didnt believe in himself he wouldnt have made it to where he did. Again , confidence is KEY to this life and all you haters lack it therefore when you see someone with it , you try the best you can to bring that person down to your level. And NO my comment section is not disabled.... What, are you that eager to go and post a negative comment? Funny really.. |
| inu-liger 20.02.2012 04:26 |
When are you ever going to back down and admit that you WERE out of tune (as verified by our resident pitch expert Greg) and stop aggravating us by insisting you're not?? There is nothing more humbling and sincere by admitting to your faults, dude! Your side-by-side video DID highlight how out of tune you were! FFS Do you seriously enjoy pissing off everyone here? And you failed to answer a very good question from earlier, and I'll highlight it in caps in case you're deliberately selective with your vision: WHY DO YOU POST YOUR SHIT HERE TO SEEK OPINIONS IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE FEEDBACK SERIOUSLY (AND I'LL ADD, ONLY INCITE HOSTILITY ON YOUR END WHEN CONFRONTED WITH YOUR SHORTCOMINGS) |
| inu-liger 20.02.2012 04:27 |
Persians...Arabs...They still share arrogant similarities. Look no further than the government of your homeland Iran! |
| Mercuryking 20.02.2012 04:51 |
Its not out of tune no matter how many times your god greg says so haha Funny stuff. Dont forget that freddie was a persian... and it is NOT the same between arabs and persians stupid ass.ITS A HUUUGE DIFFERENCE but you would'nt know now would you? Cause you dont know much. I post it here cause its fun to see the same responses each and everytime, im analyzing people like you queenzone haters, so thats all. I never take anything to heart from haters. |
| john bodega 20.02.2012 04:52 |
It's not his pitch that is the real problem with the performance, it's his overall lack of control. Somebody to Love isn't just a matter of vocal range - it's a sublime bit of soul singing (I've even heard people complain about FREDDIE'S pitch in that song, and it's his fucking song). It takes a lot of panaché and style to carry off that vocal performance, and TM - you lack that. It's not just a matter of how much of the time you were technically on or off pitch - that song is all about expression. Expression is what you change from the note itself - yes, deliberately and selectively going a little 'out of tune'. Your expression, control, and any notions of subtlety - are all AWOL. So what if you hit a couple of notes? Congratulations, you've done a very bad job of parroting a very good gospel song. |
| inu-liger 20.02.2012 05:05 |
I think it's time someone tracks his family down and convince them to have him assessed at a mental health clinic. He's just way too delusional! |
| inu-liger 20.02.2012 05:08 |
Mark my words Amir...you, your brother, and your band will NEVER, not even in 20 year's time, progress beyond the butt of a joke you've proven yourselves to be. You will NEVER gain recognition nor fame so long as you continue this negative self-serving stubborn arrogant path of yours. Have fun living in your sugarcoated pitch-perfect fantasy land |
| Mercuryking 20.02.2012 05:42 |
Zebonka: I agree and disagree, i agree that it is not just about hitting the right notes but i disagree with you that i dont sing it with passion though. Yes i need to practice my voice to get more control and once that is done then you can bet this will sound with much more soul. But at me doing a poorly job is also inaccurate, i think its quite good for a non trained amatuer singer. Just wait when i get better control over my voice, then we can talk. I am sure that i will be able to sing quite well over time and people here will be amazed. Who is amir, its not me, im Vincent and YES my music will make it. At least in a SANE world it should :) |
| Djdownsy 20.02.2012 07:19 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote: Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: whatever , i never said that they said they could do better than me so stop putting things in my mouth. My side by side comparison with freddie shows that it is NOT out of tune so whatever dude. This just shows that you are an sheep follower, agreeing all of a sudden with the herd. I dont care what you guys say, im a musician and i know if it would've been out of tune. By the way, the only band i think is good out of the bands you mentioned is Dream theater, the rest sucks and i know im more musical. You call it cocky , i call it the truth, take it as you wish. Stop being such haters,i mean really its pathetic ====================================================================================================== Then explain why you "challenged" them to a side-by-side comparison? Does that not at the very least, imply, that you think you're better than them? By the way, I'm not following the herd. I actually enjoyed your cover, but what they say still remains true. I'm not someone who likes to really put people down unless they've pissed me off. You tried to prove Greg wrong, which pissed me off, since Greg and I are good friends, and since he knows STL a heck of a lot better than you do. About the bands, you're a moron. You are not "more musical" than them; if you were, and I know I'm going to regret saying this, but if you were, you'd be the one with 5 Grammys. Now I know, album sales, chart positions and awards don't truly mean anything if you are superior to them, which you are not. You can't just have your own opinion to be considered good. You need others to like you as well. And at this rate, good luck to you my friend. Lastly, I'm not a hater. If I were a hater, I'd just tell you to fuck yourself, and I'd never check the thread again, because I'd think that what you have to say is all important. You are still a human, and so we all have our opinions, and in my opinion, you voice your opinion like a spoiled 5-year old with bad language.-------------------------------------- Excellently put! |
| john bodega 20.02.2012 07:27 |
"but i disagree with you that i dont sing it with passion though" I don't think I said that! Passion is an internal subjective thing - I obviously can't know whether or not you're feeling it while singing a piece of music. I was only trying to address what you've been saying about being on key and all of that. It's a song with a lot of slides in pitch and it's not surprising that people usually make a mess of it. |
| MadTheSwine73 20.02.2012 08:30 |
Post removed. |
| MadTheSwine73 20.02.2012 08:42 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: You are funny Mad... Why did i challenge them with a side by side comparison and why didnt i just accept what they said to be true? WHAT?? what is that ? Dictator mentality? Offcourse im going to challenge someone if i think they are wrong, are you kidding me? I KNOW they are all wrong and the side by side video proves it ,in the video you clearly hear that it is not out of tune, sure one or two notes might be slitghly off but hey , im no Mercury so chill out. Look , there is NOTHING wrong with believing in yourself, if you believe you are better than those bands then more power to you. Stop being a victim with a victim mentality, like "who am ito say im better than them" Well they are just like you, only that they have made it, they got their connections and made it thru to the masses but that doesnt mean that they actually are more musical than others. ==================================================== Thank you— people seem to find me humorous most of the time. :P I'm gonna be honest here, I don't fully understand what you're saying for the first part, but I think I get it (somewhat). I still have my opinion, and you still have yours. Can't we just agree to disagree on one thing, and agree that your video was enjoyable? And by the way, I'm chill; I'm Canadian, so if I'm not cold, there's a problem. :D I do really like what you wrote in the second part. I still don't think you're better than the Foos, but hey, that's just me. Like the other one, can't we just agree to disagree on one thing, and agree that Dream Theatre is awesome? Peace and love. |
| Hangman_96 20.02.2012 08:55 |
I wonder why people still keep responding. This cunt's just attention seeking, and he's just a fat troll. Fucking fat troll. If you stop feeding the troll, he'll be gone. He DOES understand and know that he's a stupid, voiceless cunt and he just keeps trolling you all. |
| The Real Wizard 20.02.2012 10:14 |
Page 4 already? This troll posts at plenty of forums with the same old diatribe. Stop trying to get through to him. He is indoctrinated into his beliefs like a religious fundamentalist, and is completely immune to constructive criticism or any kind of critical thought. The definition is insanity is performing the same action and expecting a different result. And that's hopefully food for thought for many people in this thread, not just the buffoon who started it. |
| Donna13 20.02.2012 11:57 |
I say that if you can enjoy your own music, no matter the level you achieve, then that is something to be satisfied about. I think Justin Hawkins said something (I don't have the quote and am too lazy to stop to look it up right now ... well, maybe I'll look it up later) about how he thinks that music should be about having fun. |
| mooghead 20.02.2012 12:12 |
"I think Justin Hawkins said something (I don't have the quote and am too lazy to stop to look it up right now ... well, maybe I'll look it up later) about how he thinks that music should be about having fun." Erm.. having a bit of talent might be a help.. fun can only last a short while on its own.. look at Justin Hawkins' career |
| Donna13 20.02.2012 13:12 |
My point is ... (edited out because there is no point - ha) |
| Mercuryking 20.02.2012 13:19 |
Mad: What i meant is that offcourse should one defend what he/she believes in and not just accept it because someone is "supposed" to know better like Greg. They made a claim, i dared them to do something to prove what they were saying and they went and hide. So i made a comparison video myself. But yea offcourse we can agree to disagree even if there is obvious proof lade out. You might think FOO is more musical than me but even if you would compare this small classical piece i made sometime ago, then maybe you would understand where im coming from with my statement. Its not all arrogance, it is actually (in my mind atleast) the truth. Donna: Exactly , as long as you yourself like the music then that is the only thing that matters. Moghead: SO you think this is talentless? Interesting... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDu8sl4Y-e4 |
| The Real Wizard 20.02.2012 14:06 |
Nobody's saying you're not a good musician. You can play and compose well. It's your attitude that rubs nearly everyone the wrong way. The fact that you don't know how to look in the mirror is your worst enemy. It's called self-realization, and you have very little of it, if any at all. "I decided to make my band cause i was sick of the crap they call music these days." Step 1 is stop saying things like this. There is a ton of good music out there. Stop listening to Rihanna and you'll find it. Step 2 is realizing you are nothing special. There are literally millions of people writing good music and uploading it to youtube, just like you. The day you decide to get over yourself and actually start communicating with people is the day you might start to make something of yourself. If you don't get your act together, one day you'll be wishing you'd pulled your head out of your ass 20 years earlier. |
| Mercuryking 20.02.2012 14:16 |
Real wizard: You sure about that? I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music. Maybe that is where my "attitude" came from, from hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music. I know how to look at myself in the mirror.I know what im good at and what im not that good at, im really good at songwriting and im learning to sing gradually, so it is my singing that needs the most improvment but not my songwriting ,that i know for a fact. |
| The Real Wizard 20.02.2012 14:19 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music. Maybe that is where my "attitude" came from, from hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music.You came out of the gate with comments like "all new music sucks except mine," so of course people are going to think you're a pompous ass even before hearing a note. That isn't rocket science. The only person you can blame is yourself. Change your attitude towards others and maybe they might change theirs towards you. Right now they owe you absolutely nothing. I personally don't care if you take this constructive criticism or not. But you're welcome to it. |
| Mercuryking 20.02.2012 14:28 |
I dont know about that, that sounds more like my brothers behaviour trying to do PR but what if i had that oppinion then? what if i really thought that all new music really sucked? Why should someone get flamed for that? Maybe its true? I mean there is no real gems in the mainstream music scene, atleast not in my oppinion. There are most certainly plenty of super talented musicians out there that don't get any exposure, that are MUCH better musicians than almost all the big top bands of today. But they don't get the chance to be where they are supposed to be for the industry has been manipulated i think. It has been manipulated to produce low level compositions to the masses, not much uniqueness, no real creativity. I apprecieate bands from the 70s, 80s and even mid 90s but towarsds 2000 and forward, the music in the mainstream died. |
| inu-liger 20.02.2012 15:48 |
Some days I wish we were more like QueenOnline and had mods who actually did something about keeping these people in line, if not banned from the start |
| john bodega 20.02.2012 18:11 |
"hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music" I've never bashed you! Actually I think I've been rather fair on you, in this thread especially. |
| inu-liger 20.02.2012 23:01 |
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| emrabt 21.02.2012 00:41 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Real wizard: You sure about that? I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music.UM... please don't group me in with everyone else, I've never said any of this. |
| GratefulFan 21.02.2012 06:01 |
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| GratefulFan 21.02.2012 06:09 |
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| Hangman_96 21.02.2012 08:04 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Real wizard: You sure about that? I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music. Maybe that is where my "attitude" came from, from hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music. I know how to look at myself in the mirror.I know what im good at and what im not that good at, im really good at songwriting and im learning to sing gradually, so it is my singing that needs the most improvment but not my songwriting ,that i know for a fact. Maybe at first you should have learnt English properly before going on this forum? |
| john bodega 21.02.2012 08:26 |
"Persians...Arabs...fucking same difference as far as I'm concerned" Quoted for all time! |
| The Real Wizard 21.02.2012 11:17 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: what if i really thought that all new music really sucked? Why should someone get flamed for that?Then you're either closed-minded, ignorant, not looking hard enough, or any/all of the above. Yes, much of the mainstream is a corporate-created product, but certainly not all of it. Here's a crash course of what's been going on for the last decade or so: Radiohead, Muse, Adele, Florence and the Machine, Black Keys, Vanpire Weekend, Keane, Bon Iver, Ben Harper, Ben Folds, Stars, Raconteurs, Sufjan Stevens, The Roots, Classified, Common, Arcade Fire, Foo Fighters, Them Crooked Vultures. Many of these great artists have won Grammys. The audience is diversifying, thanks to the options available to them. The internet is the new mainstream. Look up the lineup of last year's Coachella festival (the biggest music festival in North America) and count the number of "mainstream" artists. You won't find many. And millions of people watched online. You could even select which stage you wanted to watch on the youtube live feed. North By Northeast, South By Southwest. Have you ever heard of these terms before? It's where hundreds of thousands of people go every year to hear the new music that's happening. Artists get signed by labels, and others sign deals with companies to get their music played on TV commercials. People hear the 15 second snippet and google the lyrics to see who the artist is. They download the album, then go to the show and buy the T-shirt. How about composers, like John Williams, Danny Elfman, Trevor Rabin and Karl Jenkins? How about world music? Latin, bossa nova? There is no shortage of good music. I'd say half of the general population's tastes consist of more than just mainstream music, and most people listen to more than what they're force-fed by the radio. Especially people under the age of 40. You don't find many people younger than 40 saying "music sucks these days." You are a rare breed. |
| The Real Wizard 21.02.2012 11:18 |
I apprecieate bands from the 70s, 80s and even mid 90s but towarsds 2000 and forward, the music in the mainstream died.The mainstream went to shit in the 80s. But the ratio of good music to bad music today is far better than it was 30 years ago. People have been professing "the end of art" for 200 years now. Yawn.. Alan Cross recently said - "there used to be a thousand artists each with millions of fans. Now there are millions of artists each with thousands of fans." I don't think it's a bad thing. And if you don't like any of them, then it's you who has bad taste in music, not everyone else. Wizard: your last comment shows me that you know absolutely nothing about music.Um... right. You, my friend, know absolutely nothing about music. |
| thomasquinn 32989 21.02.2012 12:28 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Could you really call Radiohead new?Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: what if i really thought that all new music really sucked? Why should someone get flamed for that?Radiohead, Muse, Adele, Florence and the Machine, Black Keys, Vanpire Weekend, Keane, Bon Iver, Ben Harper, Ben Folds, Stars, Raconteurs, Sufjan Stevens, The Roots, Classified, Common, Arcade Fire, Foo Fighters, Them Crooked Vultures. Anyway, aside from that, I'd be willing to concede that these are capable musicians, but I couldn't honestly say I find their work interesting or pleasant to listen to. |
| inu-liger 21.02.2012 14:36 |
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| GratefulFan 21.02.2012 14:58 |
Zebonka has nothing to do with me. Just do the right thing. It's not that complicated. |
| inu-liger 21.02.2012 17:33 |
"Offending" picture removed now |
| GratefulFan 21.02.2012 17:40 |
Appreciated. Offending quotes removed now. |
| MadTheSwine73 21.02.2012 19:09 |
inu-liger wrote: MadTheSwine73 wrote: Dude, that's a bit much. Say what you want about someone, but never try insulting them with race (or religion). Sorry. I've amended my original post, and would appreciate if you could remove that quote of mine. ------- Done. |
| john bodega 22.02.2012 02:01 |
But it's amazing. |
| inu-liger 22.02.2012 03:47 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:The Real Wizard wrote:Could you really call Radiohead new? Anyway, aside from that, I'd be willing to concede that these are capable musicians, but I couldn't honestly say I find their work interesting or pleasant to listen to.Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: what if i really thought that all new music really sucked? Why should someone get flamed for that?Radiohead, Muse, Adele, Florence and the Machine, Black Keys, Vanpire Weekend, Keane, Bon Iver, Ben Harper, Ben Folds, Stars, Raconteurs, Sufjan Stevens, The Roots, Classified, Common, Arcade Fire, Foo Fighters, Them Crooked Vultures. Foo Fighters aren't "new" either, but they're still highly relevant as ever today |
| Mercuryking 22.02.2012 04:31 |
First of all, just have to say , I love you all. Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion.. With that said, Wizard i appreciate your hard and long effort in your posts, but i still cannot agree with you though. Radiohead? Im sorry but i dont find them good at all , sorry just my truth. All those bands may be OK bands but i still don't think they have that "QUEEN" quality , actually i don't think anybody has that. But anyways, there is just something that differs between Queen music and the rest, i can't really put the finger on it, but it is beyond the rest. It is like it is everlasting (not all their songs but plenty of them) and i think that is very much due to Freddie. Something about that man that noone can fully understand, to understand what he was. I think he was the best thing that has ever happend to this world, he was the closest to god walking with two legs. |
| inu-liger 22.02.2012 06:56 |
"All those bands may be OK bands but i still don't think they have that "QUEEN" quality , actually i don't think anybody has that" Ever heard of the concept of making your OWN identifiable sound? Of course you haven't, since you pretty much shit on any music that isn't Queen or your own |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 11:21 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: there is just something that differs between Queen music and the rest, i can't really put the finger on it, but it is beyond the rest.All I can say is ... keep listening with an open mind, and you'll find other music that moves you in similar ways. But if you listen to things with the "nothing will top Queen" mentality, then it won't. What sounds better to you - having one band that connects with you on a profound level, or having many? Beatles, Zeppelin, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Rush, Chicago, Dream Theater, Muse... they have all connected with me in similar ways. And that's just rock. Stevie Wonder, Dixie Dregs, Zappa, Secret Garden, Morcheeba, Metric, Tommy Emmanuel, Miles Davis, Pat Metheny, Oscar Peterson, New York Ska Jazz Ensemble, Cat Empire... there's just so much good music out there. But if you think only one band will ever connect with you, then that's fine too. But most people would think you're deprived. And for the record, I'd say Frank Zappa was much closer to "god with two legs" than Mercury. Zappa released about 80 records in a 25 year period, and contributed far greater things to the evolution of music than anyone else of his time. |
| Mercuryking 22.02.2012 11:34 |
To be honest here,im not thinking that way. Im not thinking "lets see if this tops Queen", if i hear something good i'll admit it's good. I don't only listen to Queen, i can listen to Vangelis, Classical music, I can listen to some Jackson songs , some odd 80s or 70s songs. I like music that has depth and is sorta timeless. That is where Queen shines, they wrote timeless music where others doesn't seem to be able to do as great. You can't be serious with that Frank Zappa is closer to a god than Freddie. Even if he did do great things for evolution of music, that still doesn't mean much. Freddie did what noone else can/could do, that is to write music that never gets old, music that still sounds fresh even if its 40 years old. While there are other artists that could write a song 2 years ago and it sounds dated.... Just sayin , He was a god and i think we all know it deep down inside. |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 13:39 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: You can't be serious with that Frank Zappa is closer to a god than Freddie. Even if he did do great things for evolution of music, that still doesn't mean much.That may be the dumbest thing you've ever said. If key people didn't help music evolve, we'd all still be doing the Gregorian Chant. Or hitting rocks with sticks. Freddie did what noone else can/could do, that is to write music that never gets old, music that still sounds fresh even if its 40 years old.Plenty of people have done that. You just haven't noticed. |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 13:40 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: He was a god and i think we all know it deep down inside.No, that's just you. Too bad, I really thought there was hope for you. |
| Hangman_96 22.02.2012 14:37 |
Bob, it's pointless to talk to him. I still see how he keeps trolling. |
| Mercuryking 22.02.2012 14:59 |
Im not trolling, im me , this is truly the real me. I'm speaking what I feel. This is no trolling. I truly believe Freddie is a godly being. Wizard: you are right in that without others ,there wouldn't be at the same evolution,stage but that still.doesn't change the fact that Freddie was the ultimate musician/ singer |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 15:58 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Wizard: you are right in that without others ,there wouldn't be at the same evolution,stage but that still.doesn't change the fact that Freddie was the ultimate musician/ singerFact? On what grounds? Mercury was a great pianist, one of the all-time great rock singers and showmen, crossed over into many genres, and wrote number one hits - but lots of people have done those things. Did Freddie: -conduct an orchestra? -compose symphonies? -play in a jazz band? -sing literally every style of music? Reggae, latino, bossa nova, ska? Not that I'm trying to diminish his accomplishments, but nobody can possibly be the "ultimate musician." Saying Mercury was more important than Mozart, Zappa or The Beatles is like saying Bill Nye is the ultimate scientist, when people like Marie Curie discovered elements on the periodic table. Zappa created entire records that were major steps in musical evolution. Until you immerse yourself into his work and dozens of other artists who were game-changers, you cannot profess that the ONE singer you are knowledgeable of is somehow superior to things you don't even know or understand. Dude, you have no idea what makes a good musician, nor do you understand the concept of musical evolution. You sound like a bible-thumper trying to convert people to a religion with your idiotic, baseless statements. Stop making a fool of yourself. |
| Holly2003 22.02.2012 16:00 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: First of all, just have to say , I love you all. Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion.. Ain't that the truth. The singing needs work but it's not the disaster some are saying Many of Fred's songs are very hard to sing and impossible to emulate. Maybe try something a bit easier next time. Good luck with your band dude. |
| Mercuryking 22.02.2012 16:21 |
Wizard: Im not making a fool of myself, what, just because im not agreeing with you then that makes me a fool? YOU think they are more important than Freddie but in my mind, Freddie was the BEST thing that ever happend to music. You are surely selling him short, you are almost acting as if he was just some random musician that had some great hits,while in my oppinion he was music itself. I almost feel like when he died, he took music with him slowly but surely. It was like his presence inspired everybody else to create good music and then he left and music never became the same. That is how i feel. Noone can deny his power, you can't deny that he had what noone else seems to have. He was magic. Holly : Thanks, finally someone that can be honest with their critique. Exactly , its not like Freddies songs are a cake walk , especially for someone that has not been singing for all that long. I will be practicing my vocals so one i will prove the haters wrong! |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 16:43 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: in my mind, Freddie was the BEST thing that ever happend to music.As long as it's only in your mind. Because in the real world, you're wrong. As great as Freddie was, he is not in the same league as the true game changers of music - people like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Rachmaninoff, Gershwin, Miles Davis, The Beatles, Frank Zappa, John Williams. Freddie's greatest achievement is Bohemian Rhapsody. The above people each created dozens of Bohemian Rhapsodies and/or greatly affected the popular culture of their time. This is not a matter of opinion, or agreeing/disagreeing. This is a matter of knowledge of a particular subject versus ignorance. You sound like you belong in a religious cult. Music did not somehow die after 1991. |
| Mercuryking 22.02.2012 16:57 |
Haha trust me im in no way shape or form religious or stand for man made religion :P Im totally for freedom. Anyways, who is to say that even without all those musicians/composers, that Mercury still would'nt have made the music he made? We can never know, so my world could be as real as your world. There is no other artist in the world that is as appreciated as Mercury is, everybody wish they could be like him cause of his pure awesomeness and honest character. Im not being bias here, im saying what i believe is the truth that he was the one and only. He has done what no other man has done, look at We are the champions for example, that is a song that many people i've comeacross, thought was everybodys song as if it was not written by a guy from a band. He could write music in a universal way, his music almost appeals to everyone, that cannot be said about others. |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 17:00 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: He has done what no other man has done, look at We are the champions for example, that is a song that many people i've comeacross, thought was everybodys song as if it was not written by a guy from a band.You can say the same for Rock and Roll part 2 by Gary Glitter. |
| Mercuryking 22.02.2012 17:04 |
Ehmmm NO? You can clearly hear that that song is a song made by a regular band, nothing special at all about that song...??? Not even close to the sheer universal power of The champions. |
| inu-liger 22.02.2012 18:03 |
Bob, just let Lil' Ayatollah Moment be. He obviously refuses to leave his fantasy land and join the real world. Let them enjoy their own sugarcoatIng. All we're only doing is fuelling their trollmobile. |
| inu-liger 22.02.2012 18:04 |
Btw Amir...have you seen Andreas' lovely tribute to you and your brother? |
| MadTheSwine73 22.02.2012 19:09 |
Freddie is/was NOT a god. He was a human with an amazing singing talent. God needed him for voice lessons. :) |
| inu-liger 22.02.2012 20:13 |
Although God made a mistake by trying to give him a new set of vocal chords on his birthday during the Works Tour ;-) |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 21:45 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Ehmmm NO? You can clearly hear that that song is a song made by a regular band, nothing special at all about that song...??? Not even close to the sheer universal power of The champions.The Gary Glitter track has been played at sporting events for the last 40 years. It is at least as universal as We Are The Champions. Granted, it's not nearly as interesting of a song, but that's beside the point. Your argument was that only Queen could create something universal like this. I provided an example that proved otherwise. Next.. |
| The Real Wizard 22.02.2012 23:01 |
inu-liger wrote: Although God made a mistake by trying to give him a new set of vocal chords on his birthday during the Works Tour ;-)HA! Well played. |
| MadTheSwine73 23.02.2012 05:35 |
inu-liger wrote: Although God made a mistake by trying to give him a new set of vocal chords on his birthday during the Works Tour ;-) Standing ovation. |
| Hangman_96 23.02.2012 14:32 |
inu-liger wrote: Although God made a mistake by trying to give him a new set of vocal chords on his birthday during the Works Tour ;-) Bravo! :-) |
| Gregsynth 23.02.2012 19:07 |
Freddie got his real vocal cords back by Live Aid! :) |
| Mercuryking 25.02.2012 12:20 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtiP7Vh2kBU To the one that made this video...You made me laugh my ass off !!! |
| inu-liger 25.02.2012 16:52 |
That would be Andreas who made that, in case it wasn't obvious |
| john bodega 26.02.2012 03:46 |
Not that it's any of my business, but have you guys ever considered just taking him back? |
| inu-liger 26.02.2012 06:43 |
After all the embarrassment he's tried to cause them as payback for all the shit they pulled on him? Not a chance, Zeb. I highly doubt they would. |
| john bodega 26.02.2012 07:54 |
The whole thing is just amazing to me. I'd say it sounded implausible but I've only been in bands for a few years and frankly I've heard of worse. |
| The Real Wizard 26.02.2012 13:26 |
Just to clarify something ... this isn't a real band. It's a bunch of guys playing in their basements and uploading to youtube. They get entirely too much attention - which is exactly what they want. I find the debates fun at times, but I think this has just gotten a little silly. |
| inu-liger 26.02.2012 16:24 |
Indeed Bob. It's time to put Troll Moment / Trollqvilia to rest |
| john bodega 26.02.2012 21:33 |
"this isn't a real band" That was my gut feeling too. I remember when they were going to give us that 'gig in front of thousands of people' and it never happened - instead, they were hanging out in a tent with some bald prick who couldn't sing. Occasionally a bored looking person would stroll past. Which is proof that A) they exist and that B) someone out there accepted a substandard blowjob in exchange for five minutes in the smallest tent at a public event. |
| inu-liger 26.02.2012 23:32 |
Zeb, there WAS that other concert 'video' they posted on YouTube which had probably two more people in the audience overall, but unfortunately overdubbed with the studio version of Tills Jag Faller, so (unless "Vincent" wishes to prove me correct with the real deal otherwise) I'm just going to assume that that particular performance was shitty as fuck. |
| john bodega 27.02.2012 02:23 |
I wouldn't mind so much but it's hard to make any sense of it when they continually start new channels and delete old videos. :S |
| inu-liger 27.02.2012 02:58 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I wouldn't mind so much but it's hard to make any sense of it when they continually start new channels and delete old videos. :S Indeed. Especially when you also get fake channels set up at the same time designed to take the piss out of TM/TQ |
| Mercuryking 27.02.2012 13:50 |
That stuff was with Treasure Moment, that is buried, it got to much negativity around it, Tranqvillia is supposed to be a clean slate but then again it gets haunted from TM stuff. Anyways, thing is that in this country(that is Sweden), there doesn't seem to be that many people that are into the same type of music im creating, so it's very hard to find TRUE members that has the drive that i have. and even If they liked the music then they just would'nt be technically qualified, so its not easy. So right now it's pretty divided and it is pretty much only me that is the "band". It is quite discouraging not finding the proper members to form the band i think would have the potential to become huge,but that is not to say that im not going to find the right members though :D With time, it will come, ive got some plans. Im doing whatever it takes to infiltrate my real music (dodullo man) wink wink.. |
| inu-liger 27.02.2012 15:33 |
"So right now it's pretty divided and it is pretty much only me that is the "band"." No offense, but with all those YouTube videos you'd posted before under either of those band names where it was actually just you alone on keyboards, that was pretty much already clear for a long time YOU were the only member, never mind the only member who seemed to care about recording anything under those names since it appears your brother wants nothing to do with it anymore. 1 man /= a band |
| inu-liger 27.02.2012 15:37 |
"That stuff was with Treasure Moment, that is buried, it got to much negativity around it, Tranqvillia is supposed to be a clean slate but then again it gets haunted from TM stuff." What the hell did you expect?! You trolled your way into our boards with such asinine bullshit as "Our music is better than everyone else's. FACT." and "You are all sheep", you guys stirred up fights on our boards, and then there was the saga between you and your ex member(s) that spilled out here... Did you REALLY think we were going to give Tranqvilia a chance after all the lies and crap you put everyone through here?? Nevermind Tranqvilia is a really, really stupid name for a band that nobody can pronounce on first glance! |
| john bodega 28.02.2012 00:52 |
"fake channels set up at the same time designed to take the piss out of TM/TQ" I'm still not sold on the idea that any of it is fake. After all of the nonsense they've posted here .. "there doesn't seem to be that many people that are into the same type of music im creating" It can be hard to find like-minded musicians, but failing that your best bet would be to simply put all of your energy into recording. "even If they liked the music then they just would'nt be technically qualified" There is nothing in your music that an amateur musician could not play. I'm not saying that to be a prick, but there's nothing advanced enough for you to use technical qualifications as an excuse for not hiring people. Unless of course you're referring to some recordings we haven't heard yet, in which case I take that back. "Im doing whatever it takes to infiltrate my real music (dodullo man) wink wink.." I have to concede that it's probably a better idea for you to make a fool of yourself with amusing videos than it is to throw up 'serious' stuff. The internet is like that, and at the end of the day - who really cares where the ad money comes from? |
| inu-liger 28.02.2012 02:16 |
"Im doing whatever it takes to infiltrate my real music (dodullo man) wink wink.." That shouldn't even COUNT as music. That video gave my ear STD's in the 10 seconds I bothered to even check out what the hell it was about. |
| Mercuryking 28.02.2012 04:08 |
It is basically just me composing stuff and putting it out there, you're right. What i meant with technically not qualified is that, almost every musician you can find here are "trained" to play three or four chord songs and if you listen to my music, it is continous with the chord progression beyond just three chords, offcourse there might be some of that here and there but that is rare. So they find it hard to play long melodies one after another so that was what i meant by that. Again INU , 99% of all the crap here was my brothers doing to promote, that was his thing. Yes i got involved once here and there but that was when i felt the critique was way unfair. Anyways Zeb, i agree that it does not matter how you get in, as long as you get the job done and achieve your goal. Times have certainly changed alot, where the standards of music have sunk real low. Music like i do with dodullo man, unfortunatly that is what people like to hear. I too agree that it doesn't count as real music but i am doing it for my real music to come alive cause of that. So do you guys play in bands too? |
| john bodega 28.02.2012 07:59 |
Indeed I do, although you wouldn't think it with the lack of productivity lately ... |
| brENsKi 28.02.2012 12:31 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Thats not true at all, i just compared it simultaneously with the original and it is not out of tune. Try iti just did, and guess what? - you're absolutely right...i have to admit it, you have never been so right - the original is definitely not out of tune ;-) yours tho? wish i could say the same...there's bits in there that only dogs in my neighbourhood heard, and several of them committed dogicide |
| Mercuryking 28.02.2012 14:06 |
Actually it is, infact at some points it is even identical to freddies takes if you can listen without being a douchebag. Ive just a few days ago bought a new microfon that is supposed to be good, the Shure SM7B and i will re-record it with that and then lets hear how it will sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0KmgVkYxxE Zeb: Why have you stopped playing? You got some online? |
| Sergei. 28.02.2012 15:43 |
In this thread: person posts sub-par recording of themselves singing and gets overly defensive when they're not showered with praise. |
| Mercuryking 28.02.2012 16:16 |
No you are wrong, never said i was after praise just saying that it is NOT out of tune. There is a HUGE difference there dude. |
| Hangman_96 28.02.2012 16:48 |
I'd stop posting and leave this account if I were in your shoes now, since you currently have 666 posts. That's a bad sign dude. Perhaps the devil himself has gone following in your footsteps. |
| Gregsynth 28.02.2012 17:04 |
Even Helen Keller could hear that the STL posted was off key! |
| Mercuryking 28.02.2012 17:08 |
Apparently Greg you have something wrong with your ears, might be all the videogaming that has somehow affected your ears. |
| Gregsynth 28.02.2012 17:25 |
My hearing is still good enough to hear all the failures on that STL attempt. If you want me to write a big long gigantic list on all the note failures heard, I can do that. |
| Mercuryking 28.02.2012 17:47 |
You can write all you want, and you still can't change the fact that it is identical with freddies, in the comparison video you CLEARLY hear that it is. |
| Gregsynth 28.02.2012 18:26 |
Identical with Freddie's? :D |
| MadTheSwine73 28.02.2012 19:02 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: You can write all you want, and you still can't change the fact that it is identical with freddies, in the comparison video you CLEARLY hear that it is. ============== And I thought you were never able to crack a joke! Hahaha!!! |
| inu-liger 29.02.2012 02:28 |
By the looks of it these days, you and your brother don't seem to collaborate anymore on-screen in your so-called musical videos. Has he finally started to wise up to the bullshit and distance himself from you? :D |
| inu-liger 29.02.2012 02:34 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: You can write all you want, and you still can't change the fact that it is identical with freddies, in the comparison video you CLEARLY hear that it is. Gregsynth wrote: Identical withFreddie's? :DHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Greg, this only proves that, although he's fairly good with pitching out his keyboard compositions (however repetitive they may be otherwise), he is absolutely tone deaf if he honestly believes his singing voice is perfectly in pitch with Freddie!! I'mma gonna go to bed now, it's past 1:30AM XD |
| Mercuryking 29.02.2012 03:36 |
What did Greg or you ever prove? Nothing just talk, i on the other hand went out and proved that you two don't know what you're saying. It is not PERFECT but it is pretty close to freddies.i don't mean that i SOUND as good as freddie but that it is close in terms of hitting the notes. And it will be even better when i re-record it with a real mic, then you will get it. |
| john bodega 29.02.2012 04:44 |
"Why have you stopped playing? You got some online?" Meh, I still play. It's just that getting it into what I'd call a 'deliverable' format is a hell of a task when no one wants to help. I can play and sing a little, but being drummer, keyboardist, orchestrator, recordist, mixer, mastering engineer, video director ... I dunno - anyone else ever in a band where it was tough to get people onboard for this sort of thing? |
| brENsKi 29.02.2012 06:13 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Actually it is, infact at some points it is even identical to freddies takes if you can listen without being a douchebag.yes it IS identical to Freddie's...but only during the silent bits..although you do even manage to fuck up a couple of those Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:Ive just a few days ago bought a new microfon that is supposed to be good, the Shure SM7B and i will re-record it with that and then lets hear how it will soundcan't see how a microfon [sic] can cure your lack of pitch and range....try autotune software instead - although it's not a miracle-worker either Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0KmgVkYxxEflooding queen fansite boards with self-comparisons to freddie mercury and then spamming the same forum with links to your (sh)output smacks of desperation....absence makes the heart grow fonder - so give it a rest |
| Mercuryking 29.02.2012 06:21 |
Whatever dude, you can say what you want. I know what im talking about. |
| The Real Wizard 29.02.2012 11:38 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: It is quite discouraging not finding the proper members to form the bandAnd you don't think that failure has anything to do with your attitude? If you are anything like your forum persona in real life, it's not hard to see why any decent musician wouldn't want to work with you. Whatever dude, you can say what you want. I know what im talking about.Yup, keep it up. Look how far the "everyone else is wrong" mentality has gotten you. |
| Mercuryking 29.02.2012 12:01 |
Can the person that upload that funny video again ? My retarded brother took it down |
| brENsKi 29.02.2012 16:59 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Whatever dude, you can say what you want. I know what im talking about.no you don't. "microfon" - i rest my case |
| john bodega 01.03.2012 00:51 |
"Can the person that upload that funny video again ?" Was that one of the ones where you were on stage, or that great one in the rehearsal room where Max was pulling the intense faces while playing guitar? Honestly I hate Youtube's takedown policy. I never get any time to save funny videos before some idiot gets them taken off. I know this is off topic, but people should always save videos if they find them amusing - Youtube has to be the most unreliable way to preserve online video... |
| inu-liger 01.03.2012 02:44 |
Somebody wanted a repeat viewing of the re-enaction of their unholy daily activity?? Suit yourself! http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gf2kkfceokk3hd3 |
| inu-liger 01.03.2012 02:45 |
@Zebonka ... Two words: Firefox, and DownloadHelper |
| The Real Wizard 01.03.2012 10:04 |
I use keepvid.com. Even videos with copyright restriction red tape can be saved. |
| john bodega 01.03.2012 10:53 |
Oh I'm using Keepvid every 8 seconds these days, but my point is I shouldn't fucking have to. The most inane stuff gets pulled from Youtube. |
| The Real Wizard 01.03.2012 19:04 |
To be positive - at least there's a place for you to acquire it to begin with ! We really are spoiled these days. |
| tomchristie22 02.03.2012 00:16 |
Surprised I haven't heard this until now. Of course, only positive feedback is valid and 'honest', so I won't comment. I think the fact that only one other person has had something good to say about your cover speaks for itself. |
| inu-liger 02.03.2012 01:41 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Surprised I haven't heard this until now. Of course, only positive feedback is valid and 'honest', so I won't comment. I think the fact that only one other person has had something good to say about your cover speaks for itself. And even then, the other poster that had SOMETHING positive to say even still at the same time acknowledged it was far from perfect and there were certainly some faults in TM's vocal performance. |
| Mercuryking 02.03.2012 02:22 |
Offcourse there are faults but not to the extent you guys say , that's the point. And I will do a re- take to prove that I can do better |
| tomchristie22 02.03.2012 04:42 |
Well I'm glad you agree that there are faults here, but earlier you were claiming that it was identical to Mercury's... |
| Mercuryking 02.03.2012 15:01 |
I meant that it couldn't be out of tune that much cause it blended well with freddies, i made a new version here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsmxBARTf4 |
| The Real Wizard 02.03.2012 15:38 |
It's better, but you're still pitchy here and there. Once again.. Try covering songs that are EASIER to sing. You don't get better by doing things that are beyond you. And that's not an insult. Queen songs are beyond most singers. Learning is a forward progression. You don't suddenly become a chef by working at a fancy restaurant. First you become a chef, and then you get the job. Do you think the first song I learned on guitar was Brighton Rock? Or maybe something easier like Greensleeves? |
| Hangman_96 02.03.2012 15:41 |
Mercury SingerOfLife Glad to see you've finally somehow started agreeing with people's critique, which is a good mark. If you'd been agreeing back then, you wouldn't have received so many bad comments. |
| brENsKi 02.03.2012 16:23 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: I meant that it couldn't be out of tune that much cause it blended well with freddies, i made a new version here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsmxBARTf4the only thing that you and Freddie genuinely have in common is the headline : "Is This Man A Prat?" in freddie's case it was the 70s music press having a pop, in your case - sadly, the jury is still out |
| john bodega 02.03.2012 23:26 |
Ha, it's actually a bit better now. Just don't act surprised when people crucify you, because the original is pretty well untouchable you know. |
| Mercuryking 03.03.2012 07:58 |
Wizard: Offcourse you are right, one have to start from the begining and work to the top BUT im not claiming that im a super singer by any means, i just think its quite good for a guy who has not been singing much. Another thing is also, i find it hard to find the right frequencies for the vocals, so it sounds natural cause right now , it sounds to thin and stuff, especially when i hit high notes and that bugs me. Im a true beginner on everything regardin recording vocals. Zeb: Haha yea i know , the original can't be beat and im not trying either hah |
| inu-liger 03.03.2012 09:03 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: I meant that it couldn't be out of tune that much cause it blended well with freddies, i made a new version here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsmxBARTf4 An improvement, for sure! Nice to see you practiced some restraint, makes a huge difference, although as already noted there are still a few pitch issues remaining, especially from 1:32~1:44 and a spectacular vocal crack at 2:10. |
| Mercuryking 03.03.2012 09:17 |
Inu: Thank you! I don't know if it was a vocal crack at 2.10 but it is quite annoying that the vocals sounds thin though. It has to do with frequencies that has to get right Maybe too much high frequency or something. Yea i have to practice to get control over my voice so it gets more relaxed, to be more even and not so intense i think. But im sure it will come with time and practice though. Would like to try another queen song |
| inu-liger 03.03.2012 09:28 |
I don't think frequencies is the right term you're looking for. I think technique is more the proper term here in that context. If you're new to singing, it will take time for your vocal range to expand (so long as you don't abuse it by intentionally trying to go out of your established range or over straining it!) and for you to discover ways to improve on your vocal technique. I have to actually credit Gregsynth for helping me realize how to better my personal technique and focus much better on pitch, although I'm far from being absolutely perfect either! Freddie didn't become the singer he was better known to be overnight either! Ibex 1969, enough said :-) |
| Mercuryking 03.03.2012 09:40 |
I think it's a bit of both, both technique and frequency cause depending on what you set it, it can really alter your voice. Like when i sing without a microphone, it sounds more full and not so thin if you get what mean. Oh so you sing too? What do you sing? Haha yea i heard the Ibex songs justnow and yea... thats certainly not the Freddie we saw later on so yeah, he learned his way to be the best for sure! |
| brENsKi 03.03.2012 10:10 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Would like to try another queen songdon't. try something less demanding. get that right, and work your way up... best advice, steer clear of any singer who sings both ends of a range....Freddie, Dio etc |
| Mercuryking 03.03.2012 10:28 |
nah i like singing to queen and i think it helps to sing queen songs cause they are so above other songs in terms of singing, so i think one benifits from singing freddie songs , how bad it may sound. |
| inu-liger 03.03.2012 10:52 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Oh so you sing too? What do you sing? Whatever I feel like singing, really...some Queen, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, some JPop/JRock material... :) |
| brENsKi 03.03.2012 16:59 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: nah i like singing to queen and i think it helps to sing queen songs cause they are so above other songs in terms of singing, so i think one benifits from singing freddie songs , how bad it may sound.tell you what go away and have a good practice on your scales, then come back with a rendition of Black Sabbath's - "Die Young"...if you nail that then you are a good rock vocalist |
| The Real Wizard 03.03.2012 19:10 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: nah i like singing to queen and i think it helps to sing queen songs cause they are so above other songs in terms of singing, so i think one benifits from singing freddie songs , how bad it may sound.That's like telling a ten-year-old that they can learn about science by reading A Brief History Of Time by Stephen Hawking, instead of a more appropriate science text book for the level they're currently at. This thread is ten pages now. Enough already. |
| Winter Land Man 03.03.2012 21:47 |
inu-liger wrote:Let's hear some.Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Oh so you sing too? What do you sing?Whatever I feel like singing, really...some Queen, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, some JPop/JRock material... :) |
| brENsKi 04.03.2012 04:46 |
let's not |
| Mercuryking 04.03.2012 07:34 |
brENsKi wrote: let's not Why so negative? It's not good to be negative you know that? |
| inu-liger 04.03.2012 12:10 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:brENsKi wrote: let's notWhy so negative? It's not good to be negative you know that? Nah, I agree with brENsKi there. I'd rather not :-) Bit rather too shy about it. |
| Winter Land Man 04.03.2012 13:13 |
inu-liger wrote:Do you like House, M.D.???Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:Nah, I agree with brENsKi there. I'd rather not :-) Bit rather too shy about it.brENsKi wrote: let's notWhy so negative? It's not good to be negative you know that? |
| brENsKi 04.03.2012 16:35 |
Richard/Barb any chance of starting sub-group for the music hopefuls? then unless they post their YouLube clips into that folder then they get deleted? you could even give it a suitable folder name like X-fuckups |
| inu-liger 05.03.2012 01:36 |
Fuck off, Jake. I'm tired of you harassing me and following me around on random topics and asking me stupid mental questions, as well as insinuating that I have some sort of homosexual tendencies towards you (news flash: I'm STRAIGHT, and I really shouldn't have to defend myself on tthat matter repeatedly) Continue this crap, and I will petition Barb & Richard to permban you for good! |
| john bodega 05.03.2012 06:02 |
This is why I (still) think I should be a mod here. I would've deleted Jake, TM, and John.Simon within pretty much the first 5 retarded posts that any of them made. Harsh? I dunno, that's open to debate I guess. It'd be a better forum if I were given the Ban Gun though. No longform original fiction about Jake and his incredible time behind bars ... no more egregious posts from TM about how amazing their music is (they'd be free to post in the Personal section, but anything in General/Serious/Announce would get the finger because it's in the wrong place) ... and no more John.Simon posting outright lies and misinformation in every thread he manages to call up during one of his extended Keyboard Headbutting Sessions. I can't be the only person who thinks this'd be a good thing. |
| Djdownsy 05.03.2012 07:06 |
You have my vote Zebonka! |
| The Real Wizard 05.03.2012 11:26 |
Besides trolling, there are many major functional issues here too. This once was a great place, but it is being taken over by the trolls. The "no moderation" stance has been respectable, but where is the line drawn? Every second or third thread is now a troll-fest, and there are easy solutions that aren't being implemented. Quality threads are a rarity now. But what's sad is, I just don't really care anymore, and I'm sure plenty of others share that sentiment. |
| GratefulFan 05.03.2012 12:26 |
The change I'd most like to see is an Ignore option that makes the posts of certain posters invisible. I am willing to put up with a lot for complete freedom of expression, but there are some people that can really affect individual morale. There are posters I can just roll my eyes at and skip over that really get under the skin of other people and vice versa. I'd happy electronically put people like the respawning Russian and the Global Internet Government guy and John.Simon on permanent Ignore. If enough people formally ignore any given poster they can be flagged for consideration for turfing. Wouldn't be a particularly involved change from a programming perspective and it preserves the philosophy of place. I've only been around for a couple of years so don't have a sense of the heyday that some of you reference. It seems to me that almost all communities eventually evolve and a sense of nostalgia always eventually sets in. In some senses a partial solution is for any one of us to be the change we would like to see sometimes. Post more threads. Make more of an effort to post in the threads of others that seem to be well intentioned. The trolls are less dispriting and don't tend to take an outsized importance when they're swamped by real conversation. Oddly, I miss Julia who had a young girl's disinhibition and bent for the dramatic and used to pull stuff out of nowwhere without worrying about the results and manage somehow to seed interesting threads in the process. A bunch of other people just couldn't stand her. Which reveals an inherent problem in central moderation. A lot of previous posters wander in at times just to point out that the place sucks. One person I recall said something last year like there was nobody here worth having a conversation with. Really? |
| Mercuryking 05.03.2012 13:37 |
was bored so i recorded 4 queen songs back to back ,then to realizing that it all didnt come out all that good hah. Either way here they are. Save me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP6jDrCynPw Too much love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtUb4lk_jLs Hard life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBnlOtzqAJc Bohemian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nXgj1foNk |
| The Real Wizard 05.03.2012 15:18 |
I'm not watching. Nobody should watch. Don't reply. Then he won't troll. Simple. |
| brENsKi 05.03.2012 16:50 |
clearly the guy is now becoming an even more delusional c*nt than he was previously because there are two ways are looking at this 1. he "cracked these out" (check use of term) in a 24hr period - which makes it little more than karaoke...or 2. he did a Blue Peter ("here's some i prepared earlier") either way, it's desperate, spammy, delusional and odious.... and the performance is sh*t too |
| Mercuryking 05.03.2012 17:28 |
yea and im agreeing with you |
| GratefulFan 05.03.2012 20:25 |
Vincent have you ever considered lessons? I don't mean that in a disparaging way. People tend to boast about being self taught, but if you have the passion and the foundation but not necessarily a purely natural gift you could probably save yourself years of trouble by being trained in proper technique and getting honest and professional feedback and tips from somebody who wants you to succeed. |
| john bodega 06.03.2012 01:22 |
I watched them all |
| Mercuryking 06.03.2012 01:29 |
Grateful: I have not really considered that but you think it would help? As i said before, i've not been singing all that long but i have a passion for it. One thing that annoys me is when i hit high notes, it seems to distort when recording and it thins out alot, really annoying. |
| Mercuryking 06.03.2012 01:34 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I watched them all Which of them was the least worst? :D |
| john bodega 06.03.2012 06:10 |
I'd say Save Me, in that they all suffer the same weakness - that thing you do when you go for a big note. I'm not being a dick in mentioning that, I myself am a pretty shite singer. Just making an observation. |
| Mercuryking 06.03.2012 06:21 |
yes i know,but would you say that it is the high notes that ruins it the most? |