Togg 13.02.2012 09:06 |
Just wondering is anyone here has the new AC30C2 model? I have been running the Fryer Treble booster through the Normal channel and it seems to overload the signal somewhat, works fine on the Top Boost Channel which actually sounds much closer to the classic Brian May tone Anyone done this or had experience of these newer models? |
john bodega 13.02.2012 09:27 |
I did a gig with a C2X. Didn't really have a lot of time to muck around with the settings, I was pretty pleased with it though. |
Micrówave 13.02.2012 12:24 |
The only "experience" I've had on the newer models is walking away from them. |
The Real Wizard 13.02.2012 14:11 |
It works great for me. If you're using the treble booster, just be sure to roll off the EQ completely. I've got the top boost volume at about 8, and the tone is bang on. |
BradMay 13.02.2012 23:22 |
Played it once for about 45 mins with my old Brian May signature and i was quite pleased, however.... my first real amp is going to be the AC-15 cuz i dont have money for a 30, and because its to big/loud for my 6m2 studio |
Togg 14.02.2012 04:02 |
Micrówave wrote: The only "experience" I've had on the newer models is walking away from them.You should give them a try, they are actually more flexible and robust, the addition of a master volume means you dont have to run them at max levels all the time if you want the brian tone, the clean sounds are very nice indeed if you want to hear for your guitar sounds like in a pure state. The Vintage ones are indeed wonderful but somewhat unstable and require a lot of TLC if your going to gig them, personally I would only record with them these days as the new AC30C2 model is a good road amp plus you can practice at low levels without blowing the windows out. |
inu-liger 14.02.2012 07:49 |
Pay no attention to Microwave, Togg. He was being a sarcastic smartass there, as is typical of his character. |
Micrówave 14.02.2012 10:56 |
Grow up, inu-liger. We're talking about guitar amps here, something you know nothing about. The new ones just dont seem to have any gas. There's a reason they didn't have a master volume control... not just Brian but everyone played them at max level. I think part of the reason is that everyone wants to practice with them, so we have to redesign it so you can turn it down. That, and the cheaper parts and construction just make em a far cry from what they used to be. That said, I NEVER take my 30 out to just any gig... they are definitely not a road worthy amp after so many years. |
The Real Wizard 14.02.2012 12:17 |
Micrówave wrote: Grow up, inu-liger. We're talking about guitar amps here, something you know nothing about.Um, you do know he's a guitarist, right? |
Micrówave 14.02.2012 15:49 |
Yes, I've heard. That's why I said it. What is that... a Digitech? I've got several guitars and a couple of really sweet amps too. So what? Anyone that has an original knows the difference. They just don't have the balls that the older tubes had. I don't know if it's the speakers, I believe, to be one of the main culprits. I'm not a tech junkie, all I know is there's nothing like this or a '65 Fender Princeton... so I saved and saved and bought em both. As for newer amps, I really like the new amps Bogner is producing. Very British sounding. Also, Orange makes a pretty good combo. Both are much superior to anything carrying the Vox name. |
brENsKi 14.02.2012 16:41 |
i think they're shits....they never stand their round in the pub |
Graeme Arnott 15.02.2012 00:34 |
Togg, sign up to the red special forum, they will answer all your queries, I have three c2 amps and think they are great. |
inu-liger 15.02.2012 02:40 |
Micrówave wrote: Grow up, inu-liger. We're talking about guitar amps here, something you know nothing about. Oh, and what source do you have to back up your oh-so-assertive conclusive statement? NONE. And not that I really need to, but here's where I prove you wrong once again: link Enough said. |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 10:19 |
Oh my god, you didn't just post a picture of your Peavey Raptor and some Squier guitar did you?!?!? Hehehe. But back to the topic, what say you... guitarboy... do you like the amp or not? |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 10:21 |
And a Peavey practice amp and Digitech pedal!!! Hahahahahahaha. Never mind. You don't need a Vox amp.. you're doing just fine there. Your amp should be sufficient. |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 11:00 |
Here's my keyboard (Nord Electro 3) which costs more than EVERYTHING in your picture about to be played in front of 40,000 people and national TV (ABC) in Dallas on New Year's Eve a 1½ months ago. We headlined. I think I know a little bit about amplifiers. That's a Valley Arts Electric you can slightly see in the picture as well... again, costs more than EVERYTHING in your picture. |
john bodega 15.02.2012 11:33 |
And yet no one knows or cares who either of you are. I don't want to speak out of turn but I guess I will anyway - the general rule of thumb is that if you've got time to post on Queenzone, then you're not all that great. As a rule it works for me and it's definitely working its arse off for the two of you. Works for Treasure Moment - works for Brian May too, if you extend the rule to 'musicians who waste time talking about retarded fucking badgers'. Head down, tail up - just do the music thing already and stop your pissing match because it's not impressing anyone. |
Holly2003 15.02.2012 11:49 |
Well I'm impressed with microwave's jazz hands... |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 12:08 |
Yes, it would be nice to get back to the topic... the newer Vox amps. Not too sure what Inu-liger thinks about them... not too sure why we'd care. As you might have surmised, I'm not too impressed. But c'mon, Zebonka, you gotta admit that Squier guitar picture was funny. I bought my daughter one of those about three years ago. |
Holly2003 15.02.2012 12:55 |
Back in the late 1980s or early 1990s (they all blur into one long decade unfortunately) I used to have a Hank Marvin Squier and it was really nice. Sounded just like a strat should. Nice action too. Not a patch on my vintage Les Paul, but still pretty good. Like an idiot I sold them both -- the Les Paul for £300, which even back in 1998 was still a bargain :( |
inu-liger 15.02.2012 12:56 |
Bully much? Honestly, I have not tried out the new AC30's yet obviously since I JUST became aware of those through this topic, and I'll have to peruse my local guitar shops to see if they carry them. I have tried out the regular AC30 models with the Green Celestion speakers, those were pretty good and I quite liked them. And why does it matter to you whether I have a Squier or not? Not everyone can afford thousands of dollars worth of equipment, nevermind I live in an apartment building, and an AC30 would definitely get me kicked out, so yes the Peavey does serve it's purpose well for the time being, you douche. |
Barry Durex 15.02.2012 13:02 |
Microwave, got any youtube links to licks you played through your AC30? |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 13:36 |
Sorry, I don't sit around filming youtube clips of myself. Last time I brought out the 30 to a gig was probably the 2005 Richardson Wildflower Festival. My main instrument is keys, though there's probably a few more youtube videos of that, if someone has filmed it. |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 13:42 |
Inu-liger wrote: And why does it matter to you whether I have a Squier or not?Just a tip... you might wanna refrain from tying to scoreboard somebody with your Squier or Peavy Raptor... You simply said that I don't know what I'm talking about... but I do. Personally, I think the Vox AC30 is the best Rock & Roll amp ever made. I wouldn't have a clue about how to get that exact "Brian May Sound" or anything like that... I just play. I could be a lot better, though. By far, this guitar has been the toughest instrument for me to learn. It's a shame that Vox isn't the company they used to be and decided to outsource for parts. But then, Gibson and Fender have been doing it for the last few years, too. Some of the best Fender Strats are made in Vietnam now... I'd take one of those over what I've seen in the States lately. |
Barry Durex 15.02.2012 13:42 |
Micrówave wrote: Sorry, I don't sit around filming youtube clips of myself. Last time I brought out the 30 to a gig was probably the 2005 Richardson Wildflower Festival. My main instrument is keys, though there's probably a few more youtube videos of that, if someone has filmed it. Nice one, what band? |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 14:03 |
That was with a band called Petty Theft... a (gasp) Tom Petty cover band... where an AC30 is crucial. Had to borrow a Ric for some of those tunes... I wish I had one. |
Barry Durex 15.02.2012 14:16 |
Micrówave wrote: That was with a band called Petty Theft... a (gasp) Tom Petty cover band... where an AC30 is crucial. Had to borrow a Ric for some of those tunes... I wish I had one. So which one is you? http://www.pettytheftrocks.com/ |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 14:18 |
Wrong Petty Theft. There's about 6 of em that I know of. You're not trying to stalk me, are you? :) |
Barry Durex 15.02.2012 14:20 |
Micrówave wrote: Wrong Petty Theft. There's about 6 of em that I know of. You're not trying to stalk me, are you? :) Don't be shy. This one? http://www.pettytheftband.com/ |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 14:27 |
Yep, that was the one. |
Barry Durex 15.02.2012 14:34 |
Micrówave wrote: Yep, that was the one. What's the matter, don't want to play anymore? |
Micrówave 15.02.2012 14:35 |
No, 4 years of playing Petty tunes was enough. Had to move on... It was a great experience though. Great players in that group. I learned a lot. Won't ever stop playing, though. They'll have to pry the keyboard away from my cold dead hands. |
inu-liger 15.02.2012 20:11 |
Micrówave wrote: Not too sure what Inu-liger thinks about them... not too sure why we'd care.And you think people would equally care what you think?? Wow, are you ever pretentious and arrogant buddy! Micrówave wrote: Sorry, I don't sit around filming youtube clips of myself.But you certainly have time to be sitting around following and trying to bully others who don't agree with you online. Micrówave wrote: Here's my keyboard (Nord Electro 3) which costs more than EVERYTHING in your picture about to be played in front of 40,000 people and national TV (ABC) in Dallas on New Year's Eve a 1½ months ago. We headlined. I think I know a little bit about amplifiers.Whoop de frogging do! Sorry, but I don't play piano nor keyboards. I only play drums, bass and guitar. So trying to impress me with your keyboard selection is a complete waste of your time. Nice try though. |
inu-liger 15.02.2012 20:19 |
Zebonka12 wrote: And yet no one knows or cares who either of you are.Touché, but true. I don't want to speak out of turn but I guess I will anyway - the general rule of thumb is that if you've got time to post on Queenzone, then you're not all that great. As a rule it works for me and it's definitely working its arse off for the two of you. Works for Treasure Moment - works for Brian May too, if you extend the rule to 'musicians who waste time talking about retarded fucking badgers'.Indeed. If you spend more time trying to piss people off who don't like you than you are on focusing on your musical activities or, god forbid, having an actual life, then where do your priorities lie REALLY if you think you're all that? Head down, tail up - just do the music thing already and stop your pissing match because it's not impressing anyone.What the man said. I'm getting pretty fucking tired of dealing with this bozo, I'm gonna go back to my real life for the rest of the night, go enjoy a night out with friends karaoke-ing, and tomorrow/Friday oversee work on another remaster project for Gary Taylor :-) Have a good night, smell ya later. |
Togg 16.02.2012 03:57 |
Well, all very amusing indeed, however back to topic. I have A/B'd the new AC30s alongside the vintage models and to be honest the difference is so small it's almost not worth mentioning. If you have a new model with Alnico Blue speakers it's right up there. And for the record the reason there was no master volume on the older models was simply because Vox were asked to make a few louder Amps for the Beatles and other bands to be heard in concerts, so they kept the same spec as the AC15s as they became popular they never bothered to change it. To be honest regarding whether you buy expensive or cheap instruments it makes little difference if you can play and get a sound you are happy with you can make a guitar out of a plank of wood a coke bottle and some wire, check out Jack White on 'It might get loud' it's not about how much money you have, I am sure as Inu gets older he will buy more and more like we all do, Micro I suspect you are closer to my age so I suspect you have had more time to build up a collection. I have spent a horrific £36k on instruments in the past 30 years, yet I still dig out my first guitar from time to time. There is a lot of rubbish talked on guitar forums about classic amps and guitars, just because it's vintage does not mean it's never going to be surpassed. The new AC30's can be taken out on the road by a pub band thrown in the back of the van and they will stand up to anything that you put them through, much more robust than the vintage models and i would hazzard a guess that the audience will never spot the difference in sound I have custom shop guitars and off the peg basic models the difference in sound is so small it's not funny, the 'feel' is different and the construction but the sound is so close you can hardly squeeze a sheet of paper through the gap The interesting thing is the Chinese made amps are constructed so much better than the UK vintage ones, the wiring is more robust and the fail rate is apparently almost nil. Saldy something the UK vintage models can't claim, if you do get one that doesn't need a major overhall to keep it going you are bloody lucky. Sure it's nice to have a £3k vintage amp, but if you can go out and spend £800 on a new one that will stand up to road work all I am saying is it's a no-brainer Place the two side by side and you will be amazed at how close they are |
john bodega 16.02.2012 05:43 |
"you gotta admit that Squier guitar picture was funny" Well yeah! But when I laugh about someone's guitarsenal, it's the laugh of someone who's definitely been there and in truth, still is there. Guitars can have some pretty dismal origins and characteristics, but I tend to look at that as a sort of challenge. Y'know, if I can make these buckets of shit sound like anything, maybe I've earned my right to more expensive, nicer built instruments and equipment. I definitely can't afford to dismiss a guitar just because of the pricetag. If I'd done that, I'd have missed out on the Agile Goldtop I bought last year. Cheap shit in the grand scheme of things but I love playing it and it's served me well in the months I've owned it. Since putting a Bigsby on it it's certainly taken a Neil Young'ing or two! Got my first Rickenbacker yesterday! Really enjoying that. That's one guitar where I definitely wouldn't settle for a copy - asian luthiers have nailed some guitar archetypes, but when it comes to Rickenbacker there are some real freakshow examples out there. To be vaguely on topic - the C2X (or whatever the name is) I played on was as part of backline for a Queen tribute a few weeks ago, and really was a blast. The band just invested in another AC30 although I'm not sure what exact kind. I don't get to take it home but I got to turn it up at the last gig and that thing has some serious balls on it. I find that at certain volumes it's a little more like ripping canvas than the sound I'd really want to be making, but I'll readily admit that's probably operator error. I haven't had much time to really fiddle with the knobs. |
Togg 16.02.2012 06:27 |
Try the Ricky through the AC30 with the trem turned up full... a very nice surf feel, I have a 330 /12 string which sound amasing through the amp |
GratefulFan 16.02.2012 08:49 |
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Ozz 16.02.2012 09:28 |
some people is full of it. the troll rule of forums. Nice equipment Inu-Liger. I just got a BHM guitar yesterday and im very happy with it. Its funny that people allows themselves to be douchey about equipment costs, when Brian May Itself set the philosophy long time ago building his guitar by himself, because he could not afford those band new stratocasters. And if we add the "expensive" deacy amp... haha... Well. amusing. |
Micrówave 16.02.2012 10:09 |
The interesting thing is the Chinese made amps are constructed so much better than the UK vintage ones, the wiring is more robust and the fail rate is apparently almost nil. Saldy something the UK vintage models can't claim, if you do get one that doesn't need a major overhall to keep it going you are bloody lucky.I think this is an interesting point... the way things are made these days and where is important. I have not heard/played through any of the newer amps, other than the British made ones. As I said, the American Strat just doesn't sound as good as it used to, perhaps this may be true here as well. I'm not saying the new 30s are bad amps, just that they don't sound like the real deal.... especially for that price. For a road worthy, good warm tone, you can spend half as much and get just about the same thing if not better. Of course, if you want to LOOK like Brian May, then yes... get the amp, toy gun and holster (May Gtr & pedal), and the wig. |
The Real Wizard 16.02.2012 10:13 |
Ha, that's some nice photoshopping. |
Micrówave 16.02.2012 10:27 |
Yes, lovely. Anyway, I've also heard that the tubes that come with these amps kinda suck, but the new C2s are easier to change than the CC... and it really depends on your ear. |
Togg 16.02.2012 10:50 |
I think the new AC30C2 and particularly the AC30C2x with blue alnico speakers are a very very close match to the old tones, the custom classics were good but came with Wharfdale speakers that were not great, even the greenback on the c2 are great, the sound extremely powerful and full, and on clean they chime well, these's little doubt the Alnicos make it that bit closer thou As for the valves well I dont think they have much of a problem on these and as always it's the speakers that make the difference however if you need to change the tubes its an easy fix on the c2 |
inu-liger 16.02.2012 13:07 |
I am sure as Inu gets older he will buy more and more like we all do, Micro I suspect you are closer to my age so I suspect you have had more time to build up a collection. I have spent a horrific £36k on instruments in the past 30 years, yet I still dig out my first guitar from time to time.Indeed. Although SOME people tend to forget their humble small beginnings as musicians (ahem!), it's just like any other type of hobby that involves collecting...you have to start somewhere and see if you like where it takes you :-) Coincidentally, in a manner of good timing speaking of your post, I'm going to be buying a Burns Sunburst model Red Special from one of my American friends I met at Breakthru last summer, for $700 before shipping and taxes/duty, which is not bad considering the only shop in my city that still has one in stock sells it for $1500 CDN+ The new AC30's can be taken out on the road by a pub band thrown in the back of the van and they will stand up to anything that you put them through, much more robust than the vintage models and i would hazzard a guess that the audience will never spot the difference in soundAnother classic schoolboy mistake...Something I even have to point out again to my old bandmates from time to time, most Average Joes don't know nor do they give a rat's ass about the most minute of details. To them, it's just a little decorative piece on the big cake that they're not going to notice anyways. The hardcore fan minority are the only ones who are likely to give a shit anyways, really, and even then... |
GratefulFan 16.02.2012 16:48 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Ha, that's some nice photoshopping. A real Photoshop professional would laugh uproariously at that. :) Anyway, no disparagement meant to Microwave, the United States, the United States Marine Corps, Nord Electro 3s, keyboards in general, Microwave's band, Dallas, New Year's Eve, peeing or Photoshop. Meant for fun, but I can take it down if it annoys. I had to bite back giggles for the whole 15 minutes or so. I think I might be a bad person. Ha ha. |
inu-liger 16.02.2012 23:51 |
GratefulFan wrote: Meant for fun, but I can take it down if it annoys. Nah, keep it up man! That was brilliant work there :) |
The Real Wizard 17.02.2012 00:20 |
inu-liger wrote: most Average Joes don't know nor do they give a rat's ass about the most minute of details. To them, it's just a little decorative piece on the big cake that they're not going to notice anyways. The hardcore fan minority are the only ones who are likely to give a shit anyways, really, and even then...I used to think that too, but I've come to see otherwise. These seemingly small things are not so small. A few "small" differences like this in a show can make the difference between someone saying "I liked it" or "I didn't like it"... even if they can't fully explain why. Most music fans aren't musicians, but in some indescribable way, many of them still notice. |
inu-liger 17.02.2012 00:38 |
Ahh :/ |
The Real Wizard 17.02.2012 00:51 |
...the same way people decide if they like a dish at a restaurant. The chef is cooking for the average joe - not fellow chefs. An extra spice or two can make all the difference. And so can turning a knob on a guitar amp. "They sucked live" can actually mean "they were too loud" which can actually mean "the guitar had too much top end" which can actually mean "their sound guy was an idiot." Food for thought, I hope .. ? |
inu-liger 17.02.2012 02:05 |
That's a good way to put it, I suppose |
Graeme Arnott 17.02.2012 08:29 |
Put Sovetek el84 tubes and brittish alnico blues into the c2, put a fryer deluxe treble booster in front then play the Brian May Super guitar through, they sound really good. |
Micrówave 19.02.2012 11:48 |
Ah, the tubes in the one I'm playing thru are CHINESE!!! You may be on to something. @ Grateful Fan, Real Wizard, etc.. Yes, keep it up. Interesting that something that was so bad and horrible has been turned into a punchline.... by the people that claimed it so bad and horrible!!! hyp·o·crite noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. |
inu-liger 19.02.2012 14:11 |
You have no sense of humour whatsoever, do you? No wonder everyone regards you so negatively |
Togg 20.02.2012 02:30 |
Changing the tubes will make a minimal difference to the sound, however the speaker is the main area you need to focus on when buying an amp, years ago it was common practice to replace speakers in amps, these days nobody seems to do it prefereing to stick with what they get as stock. Change the greens to blues and you are 98% there. Litte confused by Micorwaves posts, you said you have not heard or played the new AC30's, yet you dont like the sound? Go try the AC30c2x it has the right speakers, or go buy an AC30C2 and stick blues in it...much cheaper...but you get the same amp. When you've dont that you get everythimg form classic Hank Marvin, to Keith Richards to Brian May, it makes for a truely amazing amp, all the tone of a vintage with teh durability of a new one, plus you can play it at low volume and still get the tone. |
brian-harold-may 26643 20.02.2012 06:51 |
Micrówave wrote: Here's my keyboard (Nord Electro 3) which costs more than EVERYTHING in your picture about to be played in front of 40,000 people and national TV (ABC) in Dallas on New Year's Eve a 1½ months ago. We headlined. I think I know a little bit about amplifiers.That's a Valley Arts Electric you can slightly see in the picture as well... again, costs more than EVERYTHING in your picture.Pre gibson/pre samick? Or the new ones? i have seven of the old ones...and in all honesty...they are the only ones worth talking about! |
brian-harold-may 26643 20.02.2012 06:54 |
And If this new Vox has a master volume then for bedroom players or small giggers...it's already better. you can't realistically use a Vox ac30 at home or in a small gig...only if you're doing big gigs. and if you want british...marshall all the way! |
GratefulFan 20.02.2012 09:59 |
Micrówave wrote: @ Grateful Fan, Real Wizard, etc.. Yes, keep it up. Interesting that something that was so bad and horrible has been turned into a punchline.... by the people that claimed it so bad and horrible!!! hyp·o·crite noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. With all due respect Microwave, get stuffed. I find it unlikely that I need to slowly explain concepts of satire and the absurd to someone like you. A person who cracks an Osama bin Laden joke doesn't surrender their moral right to feel horror at acts of terror. Jon Stewart doesn't take to the airwaves with 30 minutes of hypocrisy four nights a week. I don't personally have the generally negative view of you that Richard describes, but you've done a great deal of late to suggest that you are limited in ways I would not have anticipated all the same. Among other things, It's a bit hard to swallow when the same guy that unflinchingly deploys biting humor as a device *all the time* wants to (absurdly) call it something like 'hypocrisy' when it catches him a little on a subject he doesn't completely like. My personal bar for posting that picture was "Would this make me (perhaps grudgingly) laugh if the tables were turned?". It would have, so I did. As I think it's fair to say that ensuring comfort is clearly not the goal of about 90% of your posts, that was a mental courtesy of sorts that you probably hadn't really earned anyway. Regardless, as it was your picture I defaced without consent I've decided to remove it. Can dish it out endlessly, but not really down with taking it. So noted. |
The Real Wizard 20.02.2012 10:28 |
GratefulFan wrote: It's a bit hard to swallow when the same guy that unflinchingly deploys biting humor as a device *all the time* wants to (absurdly) call it something like 'hypocrisy' when it catches him a little on a subject he doesn't completely like.Wait a minute, isn't that ... hypocrisy? Exposing binary thinking - one of life's greatest virtues. |
inu-liger 20.02.2012 15:40 |
-removed at GratefulFan's request- |
Micrówave 21.02.2012 13:41 |
Definitely keep it there, Digi-liger. It's the closest you'll ever be to playing for a crowd that large!!!! Unless you can get that band you had back together and "come up with amazing guitar solos where it's needed". link Are those amazing Squier solos or did you break out the Peavy Raptor? |
Micrówave 21.02.2012 13:47 |
@ brian-harold-may 26643 It's an LC Standard. Wished I'd had ponied up for the Custom, though. |
inu-liger 21.02.2012 14:09 |
As usual, you don't know squat. I never played guitar in Unbalanced (only played bass in one live occasion them), I was their drummer for over 2 years. |
inu-liger 01.03.2012 16:39 |
And not that I should be pic dropping out of spite, buuuuuuuuuuut...... ;-) link |
The Real Wizard 01.03.2012 20:37 |
Damn, that sunburst looks sharp. |
Sheer Brass Neck 01.03.2012 21:37 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Damn, that sunburst looks sharp.Yep, but they're still shitty sharp looking guitars. |
The Real Wizard 01.03.2012 21:57 |
Yeah, I wasn't crazy about the Burns either. It doesn't stay in tune. Bend a string once and it's out. The ones at brianmayguitars.co.uk are far superior, and not that much more expensive. |
john bodega 02.03.2012 01:01 |
*shrug* my Burns rarely lets me down. I used to think about saving up and getting a speccier Brian May copy but ultimately I've never had to. |
The Real Wizard 02.03.2012 01:06 |
Lucky you then ! Maybe mine was just a bad cut of wood or crappy machine heads. |
inu-liger 02.03.2012 01:13 |
I only had a brief chance to try out the Burns RS before going to work, but already I appreciate that the slightly thicker neck and curvier fretboard compared to the BMC model feels a lot easier on my hands, which are big. Somehow it makes the BMC model's neck feel more like a Strat neck in comparison! |
Togg 02.03.2012 03:28 |
Nice guitar inu, I have one of the first Burns RS's off the production line back in about 2001, it has done me proud, stays in tune longer than most other guitars I own and combined with the AC30 and treble boost it sounds pretty damn close to Mr Mays. You need to get yourself a good valve amp, it will make your guitars sound much closer to what they are intended to sound like. |
Micrówave 02.03.2012 14:43 |
Except that Peavy and Squier. They'll sound about the same. Especially when you're sitting around watching your Japanese Anime collection and discussing Hello Kitty. Or was that picture taken in your little sister's room? |
Holly2003 02.03.2012 15:53 |
inu-liger wrote: And not that I should be pic dropping out of spite, buuuuuuuuuuut...... ;-) [img=link That is one gorgeous guitar. |
The Real Wizard 02.03.2012 16:00 |
Micrówave wrote: Except that Peavy and Squier. They'll sound about the same.Especially when you're sitting around watching your Japanese Anime collection and discussing Hello Kitty. Or was that picture taken in your little sister's room?Does cyber-bullying make you feel like a big man? |
inu-liger 02.03.2012 18:41 |
Oh he's intimidated now, Bob. He now realizes I mean serious business. Just let him be. He can play in his piss-riddled sandbox like the little boy he is :-) |
inu-liger 02.03.2012 18:41 |
-double post- |
inu-liger 02.03.2012 18:44 |
And by the way, I don't own any Hello Kitty products whatsoever, you tool |
inu-liger 02.03.2012 18:44 |
-double post- |
john bodega 02.03.2012 23:35 |
"Maybe mine was just a bad cut of wood or crappy machine heads" I've always been a bit baffled by the varying opinions of the Burns. Bad Q.C, maybe? Mine was overpriced when I got it, and I knew it as I was paying for the bastard thing, but after a brief fuckabout with the switching system at the music shop, and hearing what it sounded like when I really cranked it up (it's gratifying when the people who work there AREN'T burying their heads in their hands, because they've heard everything) ... I just had to have the fucker. When I uprooted the scratchplate and spraypainted it white, I unintentionally fucked the way the pickups were mounted and when I got it all back together, I'd forgotten what all of the heights were. Haven't really changed it since - it's different now, and I like it the way it is. |
inu-liger 03.03.2012 07:19 |
Holly2003 wrote:inu-liger wrote: And not that I should be pic dropping out of spite, buuuuuuuuuuut...... ;-) [img=linkThat is one gorgeous guitar. Thank you! :) |
inu-liger 03.03.2012 07:25 |
Micrówave wrote: Except that Peavy and Squier. They'll sound about the same.As usual, you arrogantly think you know it all, eh you stupid little bully? Let me tell you something...when I was doing the one-off gig for fun at the Breakthru convention last year, THAT Squier was used for CLTCL and Man On Fire, and I can very bloody well tell you it did NOT sound the same even on the vintage AC30 that we'd rented for the gig. It sounded BETTER if anything. But I'm not going to arse myself to post A:B samples, because I already know that won't change your biased one-track-minded "opinions" towards me, you judgmental git :-) |
The Real Wizard 03.03.2012 12:56 |
inu-liger wrote: But I'm not going to arse myself to post A:B samples, because I already know that won't change your biased one-track-minded "opinions" towards me, you judgmental git :-)Good choice. Things like "facts" and "evidence" aren't of interest to binary thinkers who use ideology to form their viewpoints. |
john bodega 04.03.2012 03:00 |
In terms of music technology, my favourite thing to do in A:Bs has been to lie about what was being A:B'd, or sometimes not change anything at all. I don't do it often but there's been occasions where it's had funny results. |
Holly2003 04.03.2012 05:34 |
Unless they can be turned up to 11, they are rubbish. |
Togg 07.03.2012 03:56 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "Maybe mine was just a bad cut of wood or crappy machine heads" I've always been a bit baffled by the varying opinions of the Burns. Bad Q.C, maybe? Mine was overpriced when I got it, and I knew it as I was paying for the bastard thing, but after a brief fuckabout with the switching system at the music shop, and hearing what it sounded like when I really cranked it up (it's gratifying when the people who work there AREN'T burying their heads in their hands, because they've heard everything) ... I just had to have the fucker. When I uprooted the scratchplate and spraypainted it white, I unintentionally fucked the way the pickups were mounted and when I got it all back together, I'd forgotten what all of the heights were. Haven't really changed it since - it's different now, and I like it the way it is.Jeez louise...you killed it |
john bodega 07.03.2012 23:53 |
I'm assuming that's some kind of sarcasm. |
Togg 08.03.2012 03:01 |
Well, sort of, but all I know is when i once changed the pick up heights on a guitar it took me weeks of mucking about to get it back into something playable |
john bodega 08.03.2012 11:24 |
I see. Well I panicked when it happened, but all that really took place is that the heights were no longer ... whatever was recommended for a Brian sound. I just know that I preferred the neck pickup sound afterwards, so I decided to leave it. |