QueenZone discussion #1298541

GratefulFan wrote: Good night for the Foos as well - five for them. Adele was deserving and looked absolutely stunning. It was a good show overall. Whitney stuff was poignant and sad. I'm still shocked. :(

GratefulFan wrote: A woman died you reprobate. She died suddenly, tragically and probably unnecessarily. She left an 18 year old child and a mother who are likely laid out flat in uncomprehending grief and shock. And it probably doesn't have a fig to do with crack anyway. Idiot.

Holly2003 wrote: I'm sure lots of people will miss jpf when he's gone. His pimp, for example.

jpf wrote: She was a crack head. She fucked up her life. She fucked up her child's life. She fucked up her family's lives. I guess you'd only "dislike" her if she had been high behind the wheel of a car and killed someone. Cunt.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Am I the only one who thinks that Adele's music videos are better than the songs?

GratefulFan wrote: You know what's just as destructive as marrying Bobby Brown? Taking on freaking Kiss as a life guide and eternal loyalty project when you're young and stupid.  Because it keeps you young, stunted and stupid.  Channeling the Gene Simmons persona and the ridiculous adolescent machismo and warped values system- which is exactly what you do - keeps you stunted and stupid.   And you appear to have no sense of just how fucked up, stunted and stupid you actually are.

GratefulFan wrote: One woman or one man standing at one microphone, virtually still, just making a beautiful sound and summoning universal emotions will always be a musical experience that resonates with a lot of people.

Rolling in the Deep and Someone Like You have worn out their welcome to some degree through overexposure, but they remain significant pieces of music I think.

GratefulFan wrote:

jpf wrote: She was a crack head.She fucked up her life. She fucked up her child's life.She fucked up her family's lives.I guess you'd only "dislike" her if she had been high behind the wheel of a car and killed someone.Cunt.

'Cause you've got a direct line into the Houston family and who messed up what for whom.  I neither "like" nor "dislike" her.  For your average fully functioning human being (hint: not you)  it just clearly a sad and tragic outcome, no matter what she's done or how she contributed.  Dead serious here:  You know what's just as destructive as marrying Bobby Brown?  Taking on freaking Kiss as a life guide and eternal loyalty project when you're young and stupid.  Because it keeps you young, stunted and stupid.  Channeling the Gene Simmons persona and the ridiculous adolescent machismo and warped values system- which is exactly what you do - keeps you stunted and stupid.   And you appear to have no sense of just how fucked up, stunted and stupid you actually are.  If you weren't so freaking creepy, it would be sad.

The Real Wizard wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: You know what's just as destructive as marrying Bobby Brown? Taking on freaking Kiss as a life guide and eternal loyalty project when you're young and stupid.  Because it keeps you young, stunted and stupid.  Channeling the Gene Simmons persona and the ridiculous adolescent machismo and warped values system- which is exactly what you do - keeps you stunted and stupid.   And you appear to have no sense of just how fucked up, stunted and stupid you actually are.

Standing ovation.

GratefulFan wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Am I the only one who thinks that Adele's music videos are better than the songs?

I don't think so.  She's got her detractors and those who think she's much ado about not much.  A woman who I work with who is 30 hates her and finds her utterly boring.  I like her very much. Among other types of music, I really appreciate just her kind of singular, raw talent channeled through emotional but not over the top material.  One woman or one man standing at one microphone, virtually still, just making a beautiful sound and summoning universal emotions will always be a musical experience that resonates with a lot of people. Rolling in the Deep and Someone Like You have worn out their welcome to some degree through overexposure, but they remain significant pieces of music I think.

jpf wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: You know what's just as destructive as marrying Bobby Brown? Taking on freaking Kiss as a life guide and eternal loyalty project when you're young and stupid.  Because it keeps you young, stunted and stupid.  Channeling the Gene Simmons persona and the ridiculous adolescent machismo and warped values system- which is exactly what you do - keeps you stunted and stupid.   And you appear to have no sense of just how fucked up, stunted and stupid you actually are.

Standing ovation.

Standing ovation. The time when you would have to remove your head from your ass.

jpf wrote: You write a lot, but say nothing. You're neither intelligent, humorous, nor clever. You bring nothing to the table. You are simply a cunt. A cunt spending a lot of time on a Queen discussion board. Time for the cunt to get off his/her pedestal. You don't belong on one. You don't matter. KISS "Monster" 2012 World Tour 2012/13

jpf wrote: Standing ovation. The time when you would have to remove your head from your ass.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I think you misunderstood me. I don't dislike Adele's songs, I just don't find them stunning. I find her music video's unusually good, though. Especially "Chasing Pavements" was extremely well-made (and, I might add, very charmingly choreographed), though I find it a rather uninspired song music-wise (I'm not much of a lyrics-man).

Zebonka12 wrote: I really can't summon up two shits either way for Adele. It's great to see someone winning awards for something aside from auto-tune set to the demo button on some ex-Black Panther's Yamaha keyboard. But I think it's sad that something like that should be seen as a success for decent music. There once was a time when all of the artists would've been actual decent singers, and that the most recognised one stood a chance of being an exceptional talent. I'm not knocking people who like Adele, but she's a plain singer and one of her big singles is simply 'that 4 chord song' ... AGAIN. I mean, really? Guys? I'm still laughing that there were people watching the Grammys who didn't know who Macca was. Now that's sad.

Holly2003 wrote: Kiss Suck World Tour 1973-2012

Zebonka12 wrote: I really can't summon up two shits either way for Adele. It's great to see someone winning awards for something aside from auto-tune set to the demo button on some ex-Black Panther's Yamaha keyboard. But I think it's sad that something like that should be seen as a success for decent music. There once was a time when all of the artists would've been actual decent singers, and that the most recognised one stood a chance of being an exceptional talent. I'm not knocking people who like Adele, but she's a plain singer and one of her big singles is simply 'that 4 chord song' ... AGAIN. I mean, really? Guys? I'm still laughing that there were people watching the Grammys who didn't know who Macca was. Now that's sad.

queenUSA wrote: A natural, riveting talent explodes onto the world scene and then this: Adele announces she will take a 4-5 year break to Give her love life a shot at success. ? > sigh<

GratefulFan wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote: I really can't summon up two shits either way for Adele. It's great to see someone winning awards for something aside from auto-tune set to the demo button on some ex-Black Panther's Yamaha keyboard.But I think it's sad that something like that should be seen as a success for decent music. There once was a time when all of the artists would've been actual decent singers, and that the most recognised one stood a chance of being an exceptional talent. I'm not knocking people who like Adele, but she's a plain singer and one of her big singles is simply 'that 4 chord song' ... AGAIN. I mean, really? Guys?I'm still laughing that there were people watching the Grammys who didn't know who Macca was. Now that's sad.

Taste is a funny thing.  I wouldn't describe her as 'plain' at all. I think she's got a beautiful tone and I've always liked that particular kind of just slightly unpolished contralto.  Would be curious - for you and others - who do you count among the exceptional voices?

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.

The Real Wizard wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I don't mean to be an insufferable know-it-all, but a contralto would technically be a male voice singing an alto part.

It can be, but it's also the lowest female singing range.

Sergei. wrote: Many die-hard Lady Gaga fans were spitting fire when they realized Mother Monster wasn't going to be winning diddly squat for Born This Way. They can take a seat, because this was Adele's year for being in The Spotlight, and most people never thought for a minute that BTW would win a single Grammy anyway.

Donna13 wrote: ... and I guess the intention of the composer and other variables ... Anyway I learned something by looking it up.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

....alto (which, ironically, can mean both "high" and "deep" in Latin, meaning it could either be taken as the highest male voice, or the deepest female one).

GratefulFan wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

....alto (which, ironically, can mean both "high" and "deep" in Latin, meaning it could either be taken as the highest male voice, or the deepest female one).

The nuance of the translation "deep" from Latin seems to be related to something more like 'profound' rather than 'low'.  Interestingly, or maybe not, some descriptions of contralto also describe it as a part for 'serious' characters.  I wonder if this was always the case.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: The Latin "altus" is a physical description (compare "altitude"). It means "high", as in "a high wall", or deep, as in "a deep ravine". It specifically refers to vertical distance, but with complete disregard for whether that vertical distance is up or down. I'm really no expert on vocal music, I know a lot more about the history of instrumental composition, so I'm not sure how the contralto was historically used, character-wise. I'm pretty sure it'll be in "A History of Western Music", though. Hang on just a few hours more about the Dutch-contralto thing, I'll have my textbook at hand three hours from now!

Sergei. wrote: Many die-hard Lady Gaga fans were spitting fire when they realized Mother Monster wasn't going to be winning diddly squat for Born This Way. They can take a seat, because this was Adele's year for being in The Spotlight, and most people never thought for a minute that BTW would win a single Grammy anyway.

***Marial-B*** wrote: I hope she doesn't have the angry chick effect... That ended with Alanis Morissette's career

Mr.Jingles wrote:

***Marial-B*** wrote: I hope she doesn't have the angry chick effect... That ended with Alanis Morissette's career

Alanis became less angry after 'Jagged Little Pill', and embraced a more spiritual and experimental approach. However, a lot people still perceive her as the angry chick from the 90s. She wasn't as successful, but still kept considerable a loyal following. The only thing that could damage Adele's career is if years down the line she's still writing songs about break-ups. She needs to move on from that. Btw Mari >-D... I avoid Glee at all costs because the few times I've seen it, a song I love is ruined. Then when I hear the original, it all reminds me of the Glee version.

***Marial-B*** wrote: I hope she doesn't have the angry chick effect... That ended with Alanis Morissette's career