Hangman_96 07.02.2012 07:53 |
Following the topic regarding the multitracks of Hyde Park, I'd just like to discuss its recording for Capital Radio (don't know whether this has been discussed here before or not). I got the info from link (I wonder why I didn't notice it before): link Does anybody know more of this transcription disc? I guess it's never been aired? And if so, may it ever leak out? |
rocknrolllover 07.02.2012 11:15 |
I dreamed about all concerning Hyde Park |
deleted user 09.02.2012 04:59 |
Did Capital Radio not air it on the day? I don't know as I was at the concert. Never really got to the bottom of this. |
pittrek 09.02.2012 05:00 |
If I remember correctly some radio station wanted to broadcast it in 2005 before the QPR Hyde Park concert |
deleted user 09.02.2012 09:22 |
But does anyone actually remember if it was ever broadcast on Capital Radio? |
Hangman_96 09.02.2012 10:58 |
kurgan100 wrote: But does anyone actually remember if it was ever broadcast on Capital Radio? I think if it were ever broadcast, someone would have a copy taped off the radio. |
MERQRY 09.02.2012 18:22 |
In the article the LP is on the "official" releases ones... so mostly like it was broadcasted... and as it has (had) a price (100 pounds, too much even today, in these ages it was a fortune) someone must have this LP... maybe isnt better that the bootleg audio we have, maybe is the same... or maybe it was recorded by other crew (capital crew) |
. 13.03.2017 12:46 |
This extract from the '76 Autumn issue of the Fan Club magazine confirms the concert did not go out live on Capital Radio. link |
rhapsody8 13.03.2017 14:44 |
So, it was not broadcasted but there is a record of the concert... Maybe they used this recording for You Take My Breath Away on the second disc of ADATR reissue. Better than nothing... |
mooghead 13.03.2017 15:31 |
I like turtles. |
brians wig 13.03.2017 16:17 |
Assuming Capital Radio still have that recording and it's in good shape, then QPL have no excuses not to release the full thing on video with a stereo soundtrack. Of course though, that precludes them making overdubs which means they'd have to put it out unadulterated.... |
Chopin1995 13.03.2017 16:38 |
... which sadly won't happen (I guess) |
The Real Wizard 14.03.2017 00:08 |
The Kurgan wrote: This extract from the '76 Autumn issue of the Fan Club magazine confirms the concert did not go out live on Capital Radio.Thanks for that. But this begs the question - why would this 1989 Record Collector magazine advertise a Capital Radio transcription disc of the show as being for sale (or at least, existing)? |
on my way up 14.03.2017 06:08 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Well, those Record Collector editions about Queen live in the seventies and live in the eighties have some more interesting facts... it mentions a recording from Alexandra Palace '79 "which is hard to find these days" (something along those lines), it mentions how the band recorded London '78 shows and UK 1984 shows, This has recently been denied (unfortunately since I'd really like Birmingham 84 first night and ALL 78 London shows....).The Kurgan wrote: This extract from the '76 Autumn issue of the Fan Club magazine confirms the concert did not go out live on Capital Radio.Thanks for that. But this begs the question - why would this 1989 Record Collector magazine advertise a Capital Radio transcription disc of the show as being for sale (or at least, existing)? |
dysan 14.03.2017 06:22 |
FYI That's a price guide for collectors, not an advert. |
. 14.03.2017 07:41 |
But this begs the question - why would this 1989 Record Collector magazine advertise a Capital Radio transcription disc of the show as being for sale (or at least, existing)Although there are thousands of BBC transcription discs about, have you ever seen a single one from Capital Radio - by ANY artist? Capital Radio in 1976 were a local (London) independent FM station, a far cry from the BBC. If you pay to put an advertisement for your Saturday market stall in Record Collector, I guess you can claim to have pretty much anything in stock. The aim would surely be to draw in the punters, and it probably did just that. A bit of an urban myth by now if you ask me, all thanks to that one solitary advert that keeps cropping up. The guy who placed it probably still has a good laugh about it down at his local. .......and don't even get me started on the claim made about Hyde Park by the ''Archivist'' in his 1995 novel. |
Bad Seed 14.03.2017 09:48 |
brians wig wrote: Assuming Capital Radio still have that recording and it's in good shape, then QPL have no excuses not to release the full thing on video with a stereo soundtrack. Of course though, that precludes them making overdubs which means they'd have to put it out unadulterated....Never mind a stereo, they have the multi-track. It was proudly on display at the stormtroopers exhibition. Brian could overdub till his heart's content! |
. 14.03.2017 10:38 |
If they had the multitracks for Wembley first night they didn't bother to use them for the DVD release. |
brians wig 14.03.2017 16:30 |
Bad Seed wrote: Never mind a stereo, they have the multi-track. It was proudly on display at the stormtroopers exhibition. Brian could overdub till his heart's content!The understanding is that they don't have a complete multitrack for every song, hence all this talk about us getting an edited highlights version one day. |
Bad Seed 15.03.2017 01:32 |
brians wig wrote:I was of the understanding that it's the footage that's the problem, not the audio.Bad Seed wrote: Never mind a stereo, they have the multi-track. It was proudly on display at the stormtroopers exhibition. Brian could overdub till his heart's content!The understanding is that they don't have a complete multitrack for every song, hence all this talk about us getting an edited highlights version one day. |
on my way up 15.03.2017 01:46 |
Who knows what is true? Jacky from the fanclub has said that at least parts of the video are not usable... Other sources claim that there's an issue with the multi track. The reality is: if the really want to they can at least release a great audio version of the show. If the folks working for the Beatles can make the Hollywood Bowl show sound way better from only 3 track tape and lots of wizardry then the same is possible for Queen at Hyde Park (with waaaaay better results!) They just opt for the easy route, kinda spoiled with all the great stuff they have. |
scallyuk 15.03.2017 05:58 |
The Hollywood Bowl show was iconic.. and it wasn't that easy. link |
on my way up 15.03.2017 06:03 |
scallyuk wrote: The Hollywood Bowl show was iconic.. and it wasn't that easy. linkThat's why I wrote "and a lot of wizardry" ;-) Hyde Park '76 is pretty iconic too! When QPR played Hyde Park in 2005 it was a news item on Belgian TV that it was the first time the band playing there "since their historic free concert in 1976". |
Rick 15.03.2017 12:50 |
With the right people, everything is possible. Maybe QP should not depend on the same people every time. Hire a true expert and get some sh*t going. It's a disgrace that an iconic band like Queen has such poor live releases (with the exception of Rainbow 1974). |
Oscar J 15.03.2017 13:48 |
^ Yup. |
dysan 16.03.2017 02:34 |
I keep showing people the Hammersmith '75 cover and they genuinely can't believe it's an official release. |
Negative Creep 16.03.2017 07:43 |
brians wig wrote:LOL - understanding from where? That's clearly nonsense - along with the claim that both Earls Court recordings are plagued by the piano vocal mic not being recorded. Just utter nonsense. In a live concert setting, they don't record songs one by one - so either, the claim is completely bogus as with most claims from QPL/Brooks or they've lost one fo the tapes. Depending on the tape legth and recording speed, it may have even fit on one tape. The tape/s would have been instantly duplicated at the time too.Bad Seed wrote: Never mind a stereo, they have the multi-track. It was proudly on display at the stormtroopers exhibition. Brian could overdub till his heart's content!The understanding is that they don't have a complete multitrack for every song, hence all this talk about us getting an edited highlights version one day. |
brians wig 16.03.2017 07:51 |
Negative Creep wrote:"Or they've lost one of the tapes..."brians wig wrote:Just utter nonsense. In a live concert setting, they don't record songs one by one - so either, the claim is completely bogus as with most claims from QPL/Brooks or they've lost one fo the tapes. .Bad Seed wrote: Never mind a stereo, they have the multi-track. It was proudly on display at the stormtroopers exhibition. Brian could overdub till his heart's content!The understanding is that they don't have a complete multitrack for every song, hence all this talk about us getting an edited highlights version one day. If that's the case, then they don't have the multitracks for each song, as I suggested. Dick. |
earwig 16.03.2017 13:33 |
link according to this website... A single 2" 24 track tape, running at 15ips, will hold about 30 minutes of audio. So Hyde Park would have needed 4 separate tapes? Nowadays it's common practice, from what I've read, to run 2 seperate Pro Tools rigs to capture everything. But in 1976 probably one mobile (The Fleetwood mobile truck perhaps) would only have one multitrack recorder?! Mind you... what happens when they have to switch tapes? Obviously between songs... Anyway... it's entirely possible that at least one of the multitrack is missing... Hope this helps? *winks* |
Nitroboy 16.03.2017 15:25 |
scallyuk wrote: The Hollywood Bowl show was iconic.. and it wasn't that easy. link Difficult process. Time consuming. Most likely very costly as well... But was it worth it? Hell yes. We'll never get an official Queen product that has undergone this much restoration and care - simply because nobody whose 'say' matters enough, cares enough to make it happen. |
Makka 17.03.2017 20:21 |
on my way up wrote: If the folks working for the Beatles can make the Hollywood Bowl show sound way better from only 3 track tape and lots of wizardry then the same is possible for Queen at Hyde Park (with waaaaay better results!) .I was listening to this yesterday and it was the first thing that popped into my head whilst reading this thread. It's amazing what they did with the Hollywood Bowl recording. |
dudeofqueen 18.03.2017 12:21 |
The Kurgan, re: >his 1995 novel Now THAT'S funny. |